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| Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris [message #56999 is a reply to message #56997] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 09:20   |
Tom Bruhl
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target="_blank">gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message=20
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> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
> Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.
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> Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do =
you use
> it with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? Win98, =
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> Mac?
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> Thanks=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You got sounds? Mine had two =
snares and two=20
kicks I think.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll look again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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n g h a m=20
p t o n.c o m> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:43036520@linux">news:43036520@linux</A>...</DIV>Yes, it =
does come=20
with it's own sounds and they're pretty good. It's also <BR>pretty =
easy to=20
import your own sounds. I've imported several of my dfh <BR>Superior =
sounds.=20
I've been running the AU version of 4.02 on my Mac with DP <BR>4.52 =
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several weeks and it works well. I haven't tried it with PARIS=20
yet.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR><BR>"Gary Flanigan" <<A=20
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was.<BR>><BR>>=20
Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do you=20
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
>Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.
>Better graphics although settings are a little too small for=20
>my taste. Cool new features like a graphic of a stick
>hitting a drum in time with the trigger instead of a meter.
>Rim says it is low on the CPU priority chain so not to worry.
>I'm still figuring out a few things but it looks much better than
>2.0 which I was using. Seems to trigger more easily and allows for
>less latency-greater CPU load settings.
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>Great plugin in general.
>Tom
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| Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris [message #57002 is a reply to message #57000] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 09:35 |
Tom Bruhl
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t; wrote:
> If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
> Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever =
was.
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> Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do =
you use
> it with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? Win98, =
XP?=20
> Mac?
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> Thanks=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm waiting to purchase this until the =
Drumagog BFD=20
implementation is ready for prime time. this is supposed to allow =
Drumagog to=20
trigger samples directly from the BFD app........a wrapper or =
sorts.........and=20
then I will probably have to build a new computer with a dual core CPU =
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running it since my XP 3000 system is already screaming for =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;oP</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You got sounds? Mine had two =
snares and two=20
kicks I think.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll look again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Benson" <t o n <A href=3D"mailto:y@s">y@s</A> t a n d =
i n g h a=20
m p t o n.c o m> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:43036520@linux">news:43036520@linux</A>...</DIV>Yes, it =
does come=20
with it's own sounds and they're pretty good. It's also <BR>pretty =
easy to=20
import your own sounds. I've imported several of my dfh <BR>Superior =
sounds.=20
I've been running the AU version of 4.02 on my Mac with DP <BR>4.52 =
for=20
several weeks and it works well. I haven't tried it with PARIS=20
yet.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR><BR>"Gary Flanigan" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov">gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts=
..gov</A>>=20
wrote in message <BR><A=20
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t;=20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.<BR>> Finally got =
Drumagog=20
4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.<BR>><BR>> Does =
this=20
come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do you =
use<BR>> it=20
with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? =
Win98,=20
XP? <BR>> Mac?<BR>><BR>> Thanks=20
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| Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris [message #57005 is a reply to message #57003] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 10:09 |
Tom Bruhl
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------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01C5A32C.F64A4C40--Ok, I went to their site, and it says registered users can download anything
from the sample area. That's what I must have done, because I ended up with
gobs of samples already in the GOG format.
Tony
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:43036786@linux...
Tony,
You got sounds? Mine had two snares and two kicks I think.
I'll look again.
Tom
"Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote in
message news:43036520@linux...
Yes, it does come with it's own sounds and they're pretty good. It's also
pretty easy to import your own sounds. I've imported several of my dfh
Superior sounds. I've been running the AU version of 4.02 on my Mac with
DP
4.52 for several weeks and it works well. I haven't tried it with PARIS
yet.
Tony
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
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> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
> Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.
>
> Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do you
use
> it with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? Win98, XP?
> Mac?
>
> ThanksThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Tony,
You probably payed the $100+ too?
Tom
"Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote in =
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Ok, I went to their site, and it says registered users can download =
anything=20
from the sample area. That's what I must have done, because I ended up =
with=20
gobs of samples already in the GOG format.
Tony
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Tony,
You got sounds? Mine had two snares and two kicks I think.
I'll look again.
Tom
"Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote in =
message news:43036520@linux...
Yes, it does come with it's own sounds and they're pretty good. It's =
also
pretty easy to import your own sounds. I've imported several of my =
dfh
Superior sounds. I've been running the AU version of 4.02 on my Mac =
with=20
DP
4.52 for several weeks and it works well. I haven't tried it with =
PARIS=20
yet.
Tony
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:43035e1f$1@linux...
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
> Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever =
was.
>
> Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do =
you=20
use
> it with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? Win98, =
XP?
> Mac?
>
> Thanks
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You probably payed the $100+ =
too?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Benson" <t o n <A href=3D"mailto:y@s">y@s</A> t a n d i =
n g h a m=20
p t o n.c o m> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4303738b$1@linux">news:4303738b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ok, I =
went to=20
their site, and it says registered users can download anything =
<BR>from the=20
sample area. That's what I must have done, because I ended up with =
<BR>gobs of=20
samples already in the GOG format.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:43036786@linux">news:43036786@linux</A>...<BR>Tony,<BR>You =
got=20
sounds? Mine had two snares and two kicks I think.<BR>I'll look=20
again.<BR>Tom<BR> "Tony Benson" <t o n <A =
href=3D"mailto:y@s">y@s</A> t=20
a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote in <BR>message <A=20
href=3D"news:43036520@linux">news:43036520@linux</A>...<BR> Yes, =
it does=20
come with it's own sounds and they're pretty good. It's also<BR> =
pretty=20
easy to import your own sounds. I've imported several of my =
dfh<BR> =20
Superior sounds. I've been running the AU version of 4.02 on my Mac =
with=20
<BR>DP<BR> 4.52 for several weeks and it works well. I haven't =
tried it=20
with PARIS <BR>yet.<BR><BR> Tony<BR><BR><BR> "Gary =
Flanigan"=20
<<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov">gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts=
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wrote:<BR> =20
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drum=20
sounds, or do you <BR>use<BR> > it with sample =
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------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C5A340.67A57BE0--I bought on that group buy thing someone posted here a while back. $175.00 I
think. Worth it too me, since my room is hit and miss as far as recording
drums. Plus it's nice being able to try different snare sounds after the
fact or to just beef an existing track up a bit. I'll have a nice drum room
soon though as I'm planning on winning the lotto next week. ;>)
Tony
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| Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris [message #57007 is a reply to message #57006] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 12:29 |
Tom Bruhl
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u haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
> Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.
>
> Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do you
use
> it with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? Win98, XP?
> Mac?
>
> ThanksThe motherboard in my non-paris Athlon 2400xp box is starting to flake
out - it will freeze up solid for no damn reason, even if it's just
sitting there with nothing running. The price was right when I got it
about a year and a half ago, but it's time to replace
So, it's time to shop for a new board. This machine won't see Paris,
but it may see Adobe Premiere and the odd Windows editing app.
Any suggestions? Looking for good balance between killer performance
and damn cheap.
pab
"Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
"Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"Hey,
After looking into this here in Canada I've discovered that the only
company that will cover pro gear, and does in through the AFof M, is
Clydesdale.
jef
Brandon wrote:
>I am having a hard time with my Insurance Agent getting insurance to cover
>my studio
>equipment. I am not actually running it as a business right now so I wasn't
>going to
>insure it as such...problem is they don't have a policy that will cover over
>$1000 on
>electronics. I know it sounds outrageous to me too....
>There is also no way to upgrade that policy to cover the dollar value
>...$50,000..it's more like
>$40,000 but I didn't think it would hurt to have over coverage for growth.
>Of course that is when everything was brand new...nowadays it is probably
>worth $15,000.
>
>Anyway...who are you guys using for this?
>
>I wonder if ASCAP has something available????
>
>Should I go ahead and insure it as a business...benefits???non-benefits????
>
>Thanks,
>
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>What's the best way to split audio so I can run it to some kind of recording
device and to a PA at the same time?
I guess potentially I could just use DI boxes with an in and an out, and
feed balanced signals to the recorder...?
What's the best way to look at doing this? Feeding the channels from a desk
insert isn't likely to be an option as most of these channels will be mixed
prior to getting to the main desk.
And what's an excellent, top quality, 16 track portable digital recorder
for under $100? ;oP
Cheers,
Kim.If you have a pretty decent FOH console you should be able to take the
channel direct outs (already preamped) straight into Paris or recorder. I
use Paris to record at our church occasionally and I set it up next to the
mixer and take the direct outs off the mixer.
Works great.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4303ceeb$1@linux...
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> What's the best way to split audio so I can run it to some kind of
> recording
> device and to a PA at the same time?
>
> I guess potentially I could just use DI boxes with an in and an out, and
> feed balanced signals to the recorder...?
>
> What's the best way to look at doing this? Feeding the channels from a
> desk
> insert isn't likely to be an option as most of these channels will be
> mixed
> prior to getting to the main desk.
>
> And what's an excellent, top quality, 16 track portable digital recorder
> for under $100? ;oP
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Nah, it's all a little more complex than that and I really need to take the
signals from before the desk. The desk will only get a single input.
I'm planning on doing some solo shows involving a looping pedal, a few instruments,
various effects, and some audio routers which route things from one place
to another. Hence I'll have 3 keyboards, a guitar, a vocal, and a theramin,
three seperate effects loops, plus the looper...
....and the setup will only send a single stereo output of all this stuff
to the PA... hence if I tap the recording from the PA all I will get is
the final stereo mix. I'd like to be able to break down the individual instrument
tracks for later mixing.
I'm hoping to be able to tap in to audio at various points in the system
so I can get seperate tracks. The loops, for example, will likely be mono,
and 16 bit, so I'm thinking I may want to, after the fact, actually recreate
the loops in Paris so that they're stereo and 20 or 24 bit resolution. Use
the original performances, and create them to sound identical to what actually
happenned, but in better quality than what was heard on the night, if you
follow.
Does that make any sense?
In any case the PA will only be getting a single mix of the whole performance,
and I want to break it down further than that. I'm trying to work out a good
way to do it...
....it's going to be a mess whatever I do... ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"PaulN" <paul@nowhere.com> wrote:
>If you have a pretty decent FOH console you should be able to take the
>channel direct outs (already preamped) straight into Paris or recorder.
I
>use Paris to record at our church occasionally and I set it up next to the
>mixer and take the direct outs off the mixer.
>Works great.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4303ceeb$1@linux...
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>> What's the best way to split audio so I can run it to some kind of
>> recording
>> device and to a PA at the same time?
>>
>> I guess potentially I could just use DI boxes with an in and an out, and
>> feed balanced signals to the recorder...?
>>
>> What's the best way to look at doing this? Feeding the channels from a
>> desk
>> insert isn't likely to be an option as most of these channels will be
>> mixed
>> prior to getting to the main desk.
>>
>> And what's an excellent, top quality, 16 track portable digital recorder
>> for under $100? ;oP
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'm getting ready to turn on the friggin heater.......in August. Seems like
>a strange thing to do
It's all that global warming stuff causing these low
temperatures.
:D
(bracing for shitstorm)I'm thinking of picking up a Roland VS-880EX or something.
Surely by now though somebody has a simpler box. I mean lets face it, all
the average user needs is a little b
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Wed, 17 August 2005 13:11 |
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ox with a HDD and some A/D convertors...
and something that allows to two to talk. Those roland boxes with built
in mixers and the like, while they're great if you want all that, are really
overkill for many, who like me, probably just want to turn audio in to wav
files and worry about effects and mixing later on a computer DAW.
I figure I need a minimum of 8 tracks, probably preferably more like 16,
but cost is a factor...
Cheers,
Kim."Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I'm thinking of picking up a Roland VS-880EX or something.
>
>Surely by now though somebody has a simpler box. I mean lets face it, all
>the average user needs is a little box with a HDD and some A/D convertors...
> and something that allows to two to talk. Those roland boxes with built
>in mixers and the like, while they're great if you want all that, are really
>overkill for many, who like me, probably just want to turn audio in to wav
>files and worry about effects and mixing later on a computer DAW.
>
>I figure I need a minimum of 8 tracks, probably preferably more like 16,
>but cost is a factor...
Couple of used ADAT's ganged together? Akai DR-16?
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Tony,
I found those free samples and will be checking them out soon.
Thanks for the tip.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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John,
I don't know if it supports ME but I doubt it.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere on the
website.
Tom
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message =
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Does it work with ME??
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
>Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.
>Better graphics although settings are a little too small for=3D20
>my taste. Cool new features like a graphic of a stick
>hitting a drum in time with the trigger instead o
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| Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris [message #57017 is a reply to message #57005] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 19:50 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C5A37E.1DB22C70--Looks like I've got one of those *sweatin the details* producers on my
hands. I'm going to have to get my head around a lot more stuff than I
thought. He's bringing three more projects over here PDQ and we've been
sitting around talking about all sorts of extremely anal ear candy kinda
stuff that he expects to be able to do. It's do'able, it's just a lot to
learn. He's worked a lot in Nashville with some major heavy hitters so I'll
get an education. Glad he's a nice guy. I'll probably be learning a lot from
him.
Working on two DAWs simultaneously is getting faster every day. There's a
lot to learn, but the available options for doing different things is mind
boggling. I've given myself a pretty major crash course in Cubase SX, at
least in regard to the things I need to do with it for mixing.
I also found out a few quirks of the Houston control surface...........like
when you hit the write automation button, *everything* gets automated if
you're not careful, including the mutes and EQ, so if you're writing
automation and doing some EQ'ing on the fly and muting/unmuting tracks as
you go, you're writing all of this to the project and it will be read during
playback along with the4 fader moves. I just had to fix three songs
(basically a remix) because all this squirrelly **** crap was going on and I
couldn't figure it out until I opened up all of the automation windows and
saw this major mess happening.
Lots ot learn.
;o)
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:43017d6c$1@linux...
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> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I'm needing to get pretty anal retentive with this stuff these days...
> >Deej
> >
>
> Well.
> I have worked with many producers and mix engineers over the years that do
> sweat the details, including sound stage.
> M/S.
> Binaural.
> X/Y.
> These exist because people consider the stereo imaging and sound stage
important.
> Obviously this is not the most critical issue in typical, modern, radio
driven
> productions, but that does not equate to being meaningless.
> I love recording in true stereo (primarily M/S) whenever it seems
appropriate.
>
> Trying to control the sound stage "after the fact" is a completely
different
> animal but again, the details do add up.
> I have been playing around a little with GigaPulse, the convolution reverb
> that comes with Giga3, and now available separately. With multiple
instances,
> you can create a very controlled and convincing 3D soundstages that you
actually
> can adjust during mixdown. This reminds me a little of using the Calrec
Soundfield
> (the ultimate mic for post recording control of sound stage.)
>
> The new generation of hardware and software phase correction systems also
> opens up new possibilities. As an example: If you record a small acoustic
> ensemble with M/S, you should be able to add spot mics and "correct" the
> phase relationship after the fact. I have not had a chance to try this
yet,
> but I hope to soon.
> (PhaseTone from Tritone is out now and free.)
> http://www.tritonedigital.com/products.htm
> Gene
>"Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote:
>Has anyone here tried the new Wizoo reverb? I'm on a Mac, so GigaPulse is
>out for me. I know Altiverb is supposed to be great, but it's just a little
>pricey for me right now. I think the Wizoo verb is about half the cost.
>Anybody?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tony
>
Wizoo has many demos to listen to at:
http://tinyurl.com/7ju5d
Most don’t sound very good to me, but I haven’t tried it.
GeneYes, it is going to be a mess my friend. You might want to seriously look at
carrying a rack mounted monitor mixer... depending on your cash it could
range from a Peavey to a Crest. Basically, prewire it, send it wherever you
need it and have a jumper snake you'll pull out of the roll around with a
snake box/fan to feed the house console.
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4303dec4$1@linux...
>
>
> Nah, it's all a little more complex than that and I really need to take
> the
> signals from before the desk. The desk will only get a single input.
>
> I'm planning on doing some solo shows involving a looping pedal, a few
> instruments,
> various effects, and some audio routers which route things from one place
> to another. Hence I'll have 3 keyboards, a guitar, a vocal, and a
> theramin,
> three seperate effects loops, plus the looper...
>
> ...and the setup will only send a single stereo output of all this stuff
> to the PA... hence if I tap the recording from the PA all I will get is
> the final stereo mix. I'd like to be able to break down the individual
> instrument
> tracks for later mixing.
>
> I'm hoping to be able to tap in to audio at various points in the system
> so I can get seperate tracks. The loops, for example, will likely be mono,
> and 16 bit, so I'm thinking I may want to, after the fact, actually
> recreate
> the loops in Paris so that they're stereo and 20 or 24 bit resolution. Use
> the original performances, and create them to sound identical to what
> actually
> happenned, but in better quality than what was heard on the night, if you
> follow.
>
> Does that make any sense?
>
> In any case the PA will only be getting a single mix of the whole
> performance,
> and I want to break it down further than that. I'm trying to work out a
> good
> way to do it...
>
> ...it's going to be a mess whatever I do... ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "PaulN" <paul@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>If you have a pretty decent FOH console you should be able to take the
>>channel direct outs (already preamped) straight into Paris or recorder.
> I
>>use Paris to record at our church occasionally and I set it up next to the
>
>>mixer and take the direct outs off the mixer.
>>Works great.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4303ceeb$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the best way to split audio so I can run it to some kind of
>>> recording
>>> device and to a PA at the same time?
>>>
>>> I guess potentially I could just use DI boxes with an in and an out, and
>>> feed balanced signals to the recorder...?
>>>
>>> What's the best way to look at doing this? Feeding the channels from a
>
>>> desk
>>> insert isn't likely to be an option as most of these channels will be
>
>>> mixed
>>> prior to getting to the main desk.
>>>
>>> And what's an excellent, top quality, 16 track portable digital recorder
>>> for under $100? ;oP
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>
>I've been wanting to do this a while now, I just have too many other fires I
gotta get put out. However, my model includes the adat HD recorder. Hot swap
drives and ease of use/reliability is high on a deal like that, but the
convertors really don't suck like the old adat tape based machines. And, the
nice thing is.. get a firewire expansion and you can zip that stuff right to
your multitrack of choice OR use the adat pipes and hit DAW of choice.
AA
"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4303e7ec$1@linux...
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm thinking of picking up a Roland VS-880EX or something.
>>
>>Surely by now though somebody has a simpler box. I mean lets face it, all
>>the average user needs is a little box with a HDD and some A/D
>>convertors...
>> and something that allows to two to talk. Those roland boxes with built
>>in mixers and the like, while they're great if you want all that, are
>>really
>>overkill for many, who like me, probably just want to turn audio in to wav
>>files and worry about effects and mixing later on a computer DAW.
>>
>>I figure I need a minimum of 8 tracks, probably preferably more like 16,
>>but cost is a factor...
>
>
> Couple of used ADAT's ganged together? Akai DR-16?<
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