| Now what do I do? [message #59413] |
Sat, 22 October 2005 14:53  |
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Deej [1]
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Registered: January 2006
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t;sound, enough to fool 95 % of the people. The promise of these boxes, is
>that you can replace a room full of amps. Samples have really replaced
many
>instruments, but I guess the modelers have not replaced the tube Amp, and
>will never be able to replace a great player.
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>I will have to experiment. I've recorded many guitar tracks over the years,
>I've never like the digital modeling boxes I've used in the past. I already
>knew that there is nothing like the real thing, but I was hoping the newer
>stuff was a lot better, at least passable.
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>I think I have to stay in the song writing, demoing mode for now, and if
>something is a keeper cool. If I'm in the ballpark sound wise, I guess
that
>will have to do.
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> I'm thinking I will start with The J-Station, it's around $100.00-150.00
>and a lot of people like it. I recorded a Johnson Millennium AMP in the
>past and it rocked, so I hope the J-station kind of gets me there for the
>hard stuff. Although some of the J-Station samples sound like an amp recorded
>down the hall in another room with a wet blanket over it. I think it's
going
>to be hard to get, defined, in your face guitar tracks out of this box,
or
>any other for that matter. The Adrenalinn II and the Waves/PRS GTR are
on
>the check out list.
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| Re: Now what do I do? [message #59447 is a reply to message #59413] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 14:24  |
rick
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Registered: February 2006
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swings in input levels.
This can also be true of instrument tracks although I tend to be more conservative
with compression for instruments. Using some compression to tape can save
an important take if the performer becomes “enthusiastic”. You also benefit
from the “extra bits” you get when you record closer to “0”. Others disagree,
but I like the sound coming back from Paris less at very low levels. Just
boosting the level back is not the same. (I have the same issue with other
digital recorders).
4. Good vocalists know how to “work the mic”. Voice is their instrument and
the recording chain, becomes an extension of their technique… particularly
the compressor. With a good singer, this can make a major difference in the
sound and the emotional quality of the performance. Do you really want to
loose this just to give some more control to the engineer?
It’s great that the new gear gives us the option to make so many critical
decisions at the very end of the production process, but sometimes it’s bad
to put everything off. Particularly if you are compromising the final product.
Naturally, this assumes good hardware. A cheep compressor, or one that is
set up wrong will kill a track dead, and we all know that you can’t un-compress.
Gene
PS. One final point. If you know that you will be spending a lot of time
with Mr. AutoTune you should avoid compression or go very light.That's wonderful!
"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
>Travis Milliner, "All I W
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| Re: Now what do I do? [message #59463 is a reply to message #59413] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 22:16 |
Neil
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Registered: April 2006
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uot; <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com>
wrote:
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>Well, sometimes compression casn make a really great perfomer sound even
>better.
>When I mean hotter levels I should clarify, Say a snare into an API which
>has only input control, but the pres sounds great pushed, however at the
>best level, you get a few "overs" ..or even use somehting like an RNC to
>be able to step down the output of the pre
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>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>not to get hotter levels but just to smooth things out if the talent
>>hasn't a efin clue. if you want hotter, do it post.
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>>On 24 Oct 2005 07:20:57 +1000, "Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com>
>>wrote:
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>>>Just curious how many of you fellow Parisians approach compression while
>recording
>>>in to paris. For instance, does anyone compress Snares and Kicks or Overheads
>>>to get a hotter level without too much red. What about vocals?
>>>Do you record em uncompressed and then add when mixing? Or do you like
>the
>>>effect of compressing while tracking and then again while mixing?
>>>Also I'd love to know what some of our fav hardware compressors are and
>why.
>>Fantastic. Go get em !!!
Neil wrote:
> Great news, Ty! Best of luck to you - hope you get it!
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> Neil
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> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
>>Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
>>several categories for awards:
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>>Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>>Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
>>Best R&B
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