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Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59787 is a reply to message #59786] Tue, 01 November 2005 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
..." target="_blank">4367d87c@linux...
> At "Peggy's Cove" Elementary by the sounds of it... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>
> > But last in spelling...right?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > dcn
> >
> > "Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:4365a87e@linux...
> >
> >>Pour Grammor!!!!!????? Me???
> >>My Ass!!!!
> >>I graduate top onners at me scoool !!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4363adea@linux...
> >>
> >>>That's a problem with an international forum... subtleties get lost in
> >>>translation. Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! :-)
> >>>
> >>>David.
> >>>
> >>>TC wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hey Dimitrios,
> >>>>
> >>>>I think he was joking, it was a pun at Brandon's wording of "I will
buy
> >>>>Dimitrios"
> >>>>
> >>>>Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, not
anything
> >>>>to do with wormhole..
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>TC
> >>>>
> >>>>Dimitrios wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Dear Rick,
> >>>>>I am really dissapointed in your post.
> >>>>>If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is slavery to
buy
> >>>>>something
> >>>>>that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering the som
> >>
> >>many
> >>
> >>>>>hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much as
> >>>>>possible
> >>>>>without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>>>makes me feel sad.
> >>>>>I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts here
> >>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>>that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that help
Paris
> >>
> >>.
> >>
> >>>>>I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so for 3 adat
> >>>>>cards
> >>>>>750 $.
> >>>>>plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit tracks
> >>>>>from one
> >>>>>PC to another.
> >>>>>Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until you
> >>
> >>use
> >>
> >>>>>Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
> >>>>>So if you think that I am giving you guys a hard time then sorry I
> >>>>>will stop
> >>>>>what I am doing these last months.
> >>>>>thanks to all of you anyway.
> >>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>Dimitrios
> >>>>>
> >>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc
> >>>>>>correct society.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
> >>>>>><brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>i will buy Dimitrios.
> >>>>>>>brandon
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4361ea71$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Hello to everyone.
> >>>>>>>>After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have
> >>>>>>>>concluded
> >>>>>>>>that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) so maybe
> >>>>>>>>major
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>updates
> >>>>>>>>will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to
> >>>>>>>>"selling"
> >>>>>>>>appz.
> >>>>>>>>I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to
> >>
> >>support
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>plugins
> >>>>>>>>like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous
present
> >>>>>>>>and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>future
> >>>>>>>>possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to
> >>
> >>have
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>even
> >>>>>>>>more instances).
> >>>>>>>>I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me
> >>>>>>>>sad
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
> >>>>>>>>If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
> >>>>>>>>Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented-
> >>>>>>>>updates
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>with
> >>>>>>>>wormhole...
> >>>>>>>>Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two
channel
> >>>>>>>>cross
> >>>>>>>>bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME
COMPUTER
> >>>>>>>>WITH
> >>>>>>>>DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
> >>>>>>>>If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and
> >>
> >>over
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>will
> >>>>>>>>kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
> >>>>>>>>Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
> >>>>>>>>We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we
> >>>>>>>>certainly
> >>>>>>>>need wormhole.
> >>>>>>>>It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
> >>>>>>>>technology
> >>>>>>>>will go.
> >>>>>>>>You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing
> >>
> >>what
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
> >>>>>>>>Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
> >>>>>>>>except
> >>>>>>>>for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us
Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59788 is a reply to message #59787] Tue, 01 November 2005 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brandon is currently offline  Brandon   UNITED STATES
Messages: 49
Registered: June 2005
Member

> >>>>>>>>,Paris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>users.
> >>>>>>>>I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
> >>>>>>>>plugins
> >>>>>>>>which I think would be great if succeeded.
> >>>>>>>>Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
> >>>>>>>>having
> >>>>>>>>no guts to ask him that or anything else.
> >>>>>>>>This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
> >>>>>>>>Please respond with signing also.
> >>>>>>>>With regards,
> >>>>>>>>Dimitrios
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >
> >Rod,

You were right.....I didn't have all the effects cleared...when I did that
it worked fine.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Mike.


"Mike Yanoska" <yanoska@cox.net> wrote:
>
>Rod,
>
>Tried your suggestion. Opened clean project with no effects whatsoever.
> Tried loading compressor on each channel and only could get 6 loaded before
>I got the "maxed out" error message.
>
>I'm convinced I have something set wrong. What is your configuration setting?
>
>Thanks again, Mike.That ain't right man. Dude never signed a user agreement, and this stuff
should not be cloaked and eating resources like that.
Thanks for the heads up.
AA


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4367b25d@linux...
> http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-d igital-rights.ht
> ml
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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By the way, you can make a headphone mix across submixes
without using an external mixer in Paris. You will need 2 Mecs
and 2 spare A to D and D to As in each mec.

Let's use Aux 1 in submix A & B.
After setting up aux 1 to be stereo and pre fader in both sub A & B, =
draw lft & rt=20
patches from aux 1/sub B out to any of your available 8 ins. Hardwire =
its associated
outputs to two more inputs of sub A. In the Paris patchbay loop the =
channels
in sub A from insert in/out to 2 channels of 8 in/outs on sub A. This =
should be the
same two channels that you hardwired Sub Bs aux 1 bus to. Now send
those two channels via mixer A into aux 1. You have potentially 14 =
channels from
sub A and 14 channels from sub B feeding your aux 1 headphone mix.
Costs you a couple of channels in each Mec but I don't find myself =
needing=20
to record more than 28 channels at a time ever.

A work around that works. Been using it for years.
Tom



"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43676DD5.1010703@no.com...
I hope this is it.

jon chaikin wrote:
> thanks john. that would be great. if you want to email it my email
> is: jc@nonstopsound.com otherwise i'll look for it here.
>=20
> thanks again.
>=20
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:18:12 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>>I think I have it. I'm holding a 4 page document and put it in my=20
>>copier and have it email it to me as pdf then I can post it. YEAH IT =

>>DOES THAT ! wow
>>Then let me know if that is what you want. I bet it is.
>>John
>>
>>jon chaikin wrote:
>>
>>>thanks for the pointer. i've yet to find the one that was on the
>>>Ensoniq site which gave a step by step for using the aux sends to
>>>create a headphone mix, but i'll keep looking.
>>>
>>>thanks again.
>>>
>>>jon
>>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:05:02 -0400, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>www.kfocus.com/paris
>>>>
>>>>Look under Paris, _Setup, Queue Mixes
>>>>
>>>>jon chaikin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>i used to have a tutorial that showed how to setup a headphone =
mix
>>>>>using the external effects system. does anyone still have a =
copy?
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>jon
>>>
>>>
>=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>without using an external mixer in =
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each=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's use Aux 1 in submix A &amp; =
B.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After setting up aux 1 to be stereo and =
pre fader=20
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channels of 8=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>same two channels that you hardwired =
Sub Bs aux 1=20
bus to.&nbsp; Now send</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sub A and 14 channels from sub B =
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aux 1 headphone mix.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Costs you a couple of channels in each =
Mec but I=20
don't find myself needing&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to record more than 28 channels at a=20
time&nbsp;ever.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A work around that =
works.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> Been using it for years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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in message=20
<A=20
=
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</DIV>I=20
hope this is it.<BR><BR>jon chaikin wrote:<BR>&gt; thanks john.&nbsp; =
that=20
would be great.&nbsp; if you want to email it my email<BR>&gt; is: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:jc@nonstopsound.com">jc@nonstopsound.com</A> otherwise =
i'll look=20
for it here.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; thanks again.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Mon, =
31 Oct=20
2005 19:18:12 -0500, John &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;I think I have it.&nbsp; I'm =
holding a 4=20
page document and put it in my <BR>&gt;&gt;copier and have it email it =
to me=20
as pdf then I can post it. YEAH IT <BR>&gt;&gt;DOES THAT !&nbsp;=20
wow<BR>&gt;&gt;Then let me know if that is what you want.&a
Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59795 is a reply to message #59788] Wed, 02 November 2005 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
Paris) and we
>> >>>>>>>>certainly
>> >>>>>>>>need wormhole.
>> >>>>>>>>It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
>> >>>>>>>>technology
>> >>>>>>>>will go.
>> >>>>>>>>You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing
>> >>
>> >>what
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>> >>>>>>>>Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
>> >>>>>>>>except
>> >>>>>>>>for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us
>> >>>>>>>>,Paris
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>users.
>> >>>>>>>>I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
>> >>>>>>>>plugins
>> >>>>>>>>which I think would be great if succeeded.
>> >>>>>>>>Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
>> >>>>>>>>having
>> >>>>>>>>no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>> >>>>>>>>This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>> >>>>>>>>Please respond with signing also.
>> >>>>>>>>With regards,
>> >>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>Thanks guys!

Now if I can just figure out how to download the files. Hey, no problem--I'll
get my kids to help me (if I can pry them away from myspace for a few minutes)

A ribbon mic shootout--I love it


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>You might want to try AIM to zap the files over.
>
>James
>
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Tom,
>>
>>If you want, you can email them to me and I'll put them on my web site
so
>
>>anyone can go download them. I've got extra space and bandwidth right now,
>
>>so it's no big deal. Let me know.
>>
>> Email me here: tony@mercysakes.com
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:43672bab@linux...
>>Okay I did the mic shoot out but the files are way too large to
>>post here. It's 6 Meg. 16 tracks in all. If you want 'em I can email
>>them to you unless you have another way. I don't really want to be
>>printing disks.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4365791b@linux...
>> Cujo,
>> I know what you're saying about the hi-gain sounds. The
>> 414 is always abrassive here. I have been a 57 lover from
>> the getgo but am always fighting to reproduce what's coming from
>> the amp in the control room.
>>
>> If the 121s can be murky maybe that will be true with the Shiny Box
>> also. I can say they accept paris high end eq very gracefully. Not
>> like a 57 or a 414.
>>
>> The jury is in session as we speak...
>> Tom
>>
>> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:436568a1$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Cool, one thing I really harp on wiht bands about guitars is less is
>
>>more.
>> So many great guitar bands (Led Zep, The Who, zz Top, Hendix, and even
>
>>more
>> modern stuff like The Smiths, or the Clash) did not use that JCM800
>type
>> marshall sound but often used cleaner sounds and less wall of guitar
>
>>overdubs
>> for sure than say Foo Fighters or something of that nature. so it seems
>
>>that
>> many of the LDC's or even 57's can sound pretty abrasive with them,
>but
>>these
>> High Gain amos can sound cool for sure, the ribbon may be just the

>>trick.,I
>> know the 121s do ok for this, but I do think they sound at tad murky
>
>>too.
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Dale and Cujo,
>> >Heres what I can tell you about the 46Ls:
>> >
>> >I haven't any ribbons to AB them with. My experience with
>> >Beyer M-160s was less than stellar so I am certainly biased.
>> >The information I got from Jon at Shiny Box is that the Lundahls make
>=
>> >the
>> >mics more clear from top to bottom. I know John Macy is preferring
>the
>> =
>> >standard
>> >46s over his Royer 121s on e. gtrs. I am going to hammer
>> >them tonight with some crunch guitars for yours and my benefit.
>> >I'll A-B them with a 57, 421 414 so you have some basis for my
>> >comments. I'll gain match too using the same pre.
>> >
>> >Maybe I'll post a short mp3 too. It's so subjective with all the
=
>> >variables.
>> >I'll give you my gut feeling though.
>> >Tom
>> >
>> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
>> >news:4365146f$1@linux...
>> >
>> >
>> > I saw a pair of the SE ribbons at a dealer.=20
>> > They do look really well constructed, and I guess they are supposed
>
>>to
>> =
>> >be
>> > a tad more airy than the Royer. They aint super cheap though as
are
>=
>> >the shiny..
>> > I really do want to know about the diff in the tranny of the Shiny
>
>>box
>> =
>> >mics,
>> > I am thinking a pair of these may fit the bill as room mics. Of

>>course
>> =
>> >you
>> > afiten get what you pay for
>> > I also want to know how they sound on a crunchy master gain marshall.
>> >
>> > I heard a clip of DJ's gemini in action, how does the 5000 compare?
>> >
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> > >I can't wait to give one of these SE ribbons a try. I'm very =
>> >impressed with
>> > >the SE stuff. We just used a matched pair of SE3's on some guitar
>=
>> >overdubs.
>> > >We compared them to a matched pair of Neumann KM 184's and a pair
>of
>> =
>> >AKG
>> > >C460B's before we committed to them. The SE3's sound great. I
think
>> =
>> >this
>> > >company is hitting some home runs with some high quality products
>at
>> =
>> >very
>> > >good prices.
>> > >
>> > >Deej
>> > >
>> > >"Dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:4364187c$1@linux...
>> > >>
>> > >> A buncha questions about these "ShinyBox" mics I hear tell of....
>> > >>
>> > >> So how does the ShinyBox sound compared with Beyer M160 & Royer
>=
>> >(both
>> > of
>> > >> which I have used)? Does a $310 mic (46L) really outperform a
>=
>> >Royer?!?
>> > >>
>> > >> I just scanned the shinybox.com, but didn't see much description
>
>>of
>> =
>> >the
>> > >practical
>> > >> difference between the 46, 46C, & 46L except about the =
>> >transformers. How
>> > >> are the spendier ones better?
>> > >>
>> > >> I don't suppose anyone has got one of the new SE Electronics

>>Ribbon
>> =
>> >mics
>> > >> to report on? I have one of their tube mics (SE 5000) which I
>like
>> =
>> >a lot.
>> > >>
>> > >> thanks,
>> > >> Dale
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Glad you like them, Tom. I think they are
>> > >> >a fantastic value. I use my 46's over my Royers
>> > >> >all the time, especially on electric guitars. I
>> > >> >know Darren Rahn for the group here got a pair
>> > >> >also and is verry pleased, too. Even the unmatched,
>> > >> >stock transformer 46's are pretty nice :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>Had a project that called for tenor sax, vocals
>> > >> >>and a little egg shakin'.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>Used 'em on everything through the Precision 8
>> > >
Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59807 is a reply to message #59795] Wed, 02 November 2005 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
t;>>>>>I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that =
makes me
>> >>>>>>>>sad
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail =
somehow.
>> >>>>>>>>If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
>> >>>>>>>>Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris =
oriented-
>> >>>>>>>>updates
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>with
>> >>>>>>>>wormhole...
>> >>>>>>>>Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two
>channel
>> >>>>>>>>cross
>> >>>>>>>>bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME
>COMPUTER
>> >>>>>>>>WITH
>> >>>>>>>>DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
>> >>>>>>>>If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say =
10 and
>> >>
>> >>over
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>will
>> >>>>>>>>kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
>> >>>>>>>>Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this =
plugin is.
>> >>>>>>>>We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and =
we
>> >>>>>>>>certainly
>> >>>>>>>>need wormhole.
>> >>>>>>>>It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where =
audio
>> >>>>>>>>technology
>> >>>>>>>>will go.
>> >>>>>>>>You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's =
doing
>> >>
>> >>what
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>> >>>>>>>>Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but =
noone else
>> >>>>>>>>except
>> >>>>>>>>for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help =
us
>> >>>>>>>>,Paris
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>users.
>> >>>>>>>>I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator =
for VST
>> >>>>>>>>plugins
>> >>>>>>>>which I think would be great if succeeded.
>> >>>>>>>>Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I =
will be
>> >>>>>>>>having
>> >>>>>>>>no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>> >>>>>>>>This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>> >>>>>>>>Please respond with signing also.
>> >>>>>>>>With regards,
>> >>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would buy&nbsp;Wormhole if I saw any =
benefit to=20
my situation but I'm not sure</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it will help me.&nbsp; I like staying =
in=20
Paris.&nbsp; The only thing that would</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>help me is to use a second computer =
with Cubase to=20
send softsynths</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to Paris and/or process&nbsp;outboard =
DX/VST=20
effects for Paris global</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or even inserts if extra dsp was =
needed.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From what I know it won't help me =
greatly for any=20
of these things without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tying down the CPU and still have =
latency=20
issues.&nbsp; I'd do better using</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>realtime ADAT in/out and I already have =

that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I'm wrong tell me why.&nbsp; With =
Paris being=20
the mother ship I don't see any</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>great options here.&nbsp; On the other =
hand I'd be=20
glad to buy a latency compensating</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>version of Paris when that comes down =
the=20
pike.&nbsp; I won't hold my breath waiting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Dimitrios for your work.&nbsp; =
I'm sure many=20
will still benefit from your effort.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:7v5hm11t9g90b9p2hg0ndje8guo7qk385e@4ax.com">news:7v5hm11t9g9=
0b9p2hg0ndje8guo7qk385e@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>yoor=20
sole got mie ass in trubble<BR><BR>On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:06:54 -0600,=20
"Brandon"<BR>&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net">brandon_goodwin@R=
EMOVETHISsbcglobal.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;You guys just don't appreciate the ART of=20
language.<BR>&gt;It doesn't have to be technically correct at all =
times you=20
know??....!!!<BR>&gt;It's an expression of ones soul...open your minds =
and=20
take it in...<BR>&gt;so simple.. yet so=20
=
comprehendable..<BR>&gt;yeah.....:-)<BR>&gt;<BR >&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;"EK =
Sound"=20
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;news:4367d87c@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt; At "Peggy's =
Cove"=20
Elementary by the sounds of it... ;-)<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
David.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Don Nafe wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;=20
But last in spelling...right?<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
;-)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; dcn<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;=20
"Brandon" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net">brandon_goodwin@R=
EMOVETHISsbcglobal.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; <A=20
href=3D"news:4365a87e@linux">news:4365a87e@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Pour Grammor!!!!!????? Me???<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;My=20
Ass!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;I graduate top onners at me scoool=20
!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;"EK =
Sound"=20
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;news:4363adea@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;That's a problem with an =
international=20
forum... subtleties get lost in<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;translation.&nbsp;=20
Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! :-)<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;David.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;TC wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Hey Dimitrios,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I think he was joking, it =
was a=20
pun at Brandon's wording of "I will<BR>&gt;buy<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios"<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios,&nbsp; with =
cash=20
money, not<BR>&gt;anything<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;to do with=20
wormhole..<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Cheers,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;TC<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dear =
Rick,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I am really dissapointed in your post.<BR>&gt;&gt; =

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that =
it is=20
slavery to<BR>&gt;buy<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;something<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that is so innovative for Paris and not only and=20
considering the som<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;many<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;hours spent to make things =
smooth for=20
Paris and wormhole as much as<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;possible<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;without =
me being=20
involved at all in the sales of this plugin that<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;really<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;makes me feel sad.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I was=20
hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts =
here<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap =
plugins=20
that help<BR>&gt;Paris<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I see people here payinmg 250 =
$ for a=20
single adat card so&nbsp; for 3 adat<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;cards<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;750 =
$.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 =
adat 20=20
bit tracks<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;from one<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;PC to another.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Now =
a=20
simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until =
you<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;use<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 =
Ghz=20
cpu.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;So if you think that I am giving =
you guys=20
a hard time then sorry I<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;will =
stop<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;what I am doing these last months.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;thanks to all of you anyway.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Regards,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;rick&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"i will buy=20
Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;correct society.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;On Fri, =
28 Oct=20
2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net">brandon_goodwin@R=
EMOVETHISsbcglobal.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;i will buy&nbsp; Dimitrios.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;bran don <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"Dimitrios " &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>&gt; wrote in =

message<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;news :4361ea71$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Hello=20
to everyone.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;After my last =

conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;concluded <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;that wormhole is not selling well ( =
where are=20
we guys ?) so maybe<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;major <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;updates <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;will get longer to support as he has =
to=20
concentrate his efforts to<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt; "selling"<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;appz. <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;I wonder how we Parisians expect =
plugin=20
authors like Adrian to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;support<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;plugins <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;like wormhole which are a godsend for =
Paris=20
with tremendous<BR>&gt;present<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;and <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;future <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;possibilities... (he is thinking of =
making=20
wormhole lighter so to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;have<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;even <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;more instances).<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;I don't see us people here supporting =
wormhole=20
and that makes me<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;sad <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;maybe =
all my=20
efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;If we don't buy it how can we ask him =
for this=20
and that ?<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Even two or =
three buys=20
would not justify major -Paris oriented-<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;updates <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;with <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;wormhole... <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Please sign here if you care for using =

wormhole even as two<BR>&gt;channel<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;cross <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT =
CAN BE=20
USED ON SAME<BR>&gt;COMPUTER<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;WITH <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;If we sign enouph people here (enouph =
depends=20
I would say 10 and<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;over<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;will <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;kindly ask for a small discount for =
mass=20
purchase.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Please try =
wormhole and=20
see for yourself how great this plugin is.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;We need Adrian (convince him make appz =
suited=20
to Paris) and we<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;certainly <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;need wormhole.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;It will keep Paris alive for things to =
come no=20
matter where audio<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;technology <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;will go.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;You will always have Paris thus =
connected with=20
modern pc's doing<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;what<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;it<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;is =
known to=20
do best, sounding good when summing...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Please forgive me if I am being so =
pushy with=20
this but noone else<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;except <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;for Adrian (till now) has showed so =
much=20
interest to help&nbsp; us<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;,Paris <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;users. <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;I wanna convince him make an automatic =
LATENCY=20
compensator for VST<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;plugins <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;which I think would be great if=20
succeeded.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Believe me if =
only=20
two-three Paris users will sign this I will be<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;having <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;no guts to ask him that or anything=20
else.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;This plugin sells =
for 49 $=20
only...<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Please respond =
with=20
signing also.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;With=20
regards,<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Dimitrios <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C5E005.16929290--This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig apart to
get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is there a
way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart,
say.. via software?
AA


"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
> Hello.
>
> Well, there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
> Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and blue.
>
> BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
> Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
> PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
>
> I thought that we could make come research on how many revisions of
> paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which
> ones are the newest.
> ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange.
>
> That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations
> are working for someone and for someone not", and why some configurations
> doesn't work at all.
>
> Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts....
>
> I hope there will be a huge response for this topic.
>
> Greetings to all!!
>
> Suad Cokljat
> Indigo Audio
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi All

More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided to
buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.

Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not
looking to colour my mixes.

Budget is between $4-$6 K

I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high
end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would be
appropriate.

Thanks in advance

DonHey Don,
check this out :
http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.533/it.A/id.5 373/.f
I don't know how it sounds but it sure look cool. Some good words at gearslutz
about this company, I'm sure much is hype as always.




"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
to
>buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>
>Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not

>looking to colour my mixes.
>
>Budget is between $4-$6 K
>
>I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high

>end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
be
>appropriate.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Don
>
>
>Looks interesting for sure.

Thanks

Don

"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:436a118f$1@linux...
>
>
>
> Hey Don,
> check this out :
> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.533/it.A/id.5 373/.f
> I don't know how it sounds but it sure look cool. Some good words at
> gearslutz
> about this company, I'm sure much is hype as always.
>
>
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Hi All
>>
>>More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
> to
>>buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>>
>>Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not
>
>>looking to colour my mixes.
>>
>>Budget is between $4-$6 K
>>
>>I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high
>
>>end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
> be
>>appropriate.
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>In the cheaper catagory, what about an old Aphex Compeller? If I recall,
they were fairly transparent, I could be mistaken though



"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Looks interesting for sure.
>
>Thanks
>
>Don
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:436a118f$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Don,
>> check this out :
>> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.533/it.A/id.5 373/.f
>> I don't know how it sounds but it sure look cool. Some good words at
>> gearslutz
>> about this company, I'm sure much is hype as always.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>>More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
>> to
>>>buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>>>
>>>Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm
not
>>
>>>looking to colour my mixes.
>>>
>>>Budget is between $4-$6 K
>>>
>>>I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with
high
>>
>>>end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
>> be
>>>appropriate.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>In the cheaper catagory, what about an old Aphex Compeller? If I recall,
>they were fairly transparent, I could be mistaken though
>

The Compeller is great for tracking with subtle level control, but not for
2 bus.
My first choices for clean 2-bus:

http://www.smartresearch.co.uk/#C2

http://www.solid-state-logic.com/outboard/products/xgseries/

For a little more attitude:

http://mercenary.com/chtg1li.html

And my favorite:
http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.336/it.A/id.4 789/.f

Some people consider the Neve a sound-adding compressor, but I think it just
makes the sound creamy. For a more rock/aggressive sound I like the Smart.


Rupert will have a new Portico contender soon. Based on the current offerings,
I am sure this will also be good.

The one area where big commercial studios still kill, is the ability to try
out a variety of mics or pres, or compressors, I will never own this kind
of collection.
Gene http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.413/it.A/id.2 68/.f


I'm using a Drawmer 1968ME right now, but I'm eyeing this one.Multi band compression scares the hell outta me...more control but more to
screw up

;-)

Don


"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote in message news:436a21fb@linux...
> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.413/it.A/id.2 68/.f
>
>
> I'm using a Drawmer 1968ME right now, but I'm eyeing this one.
>Hmm, so Gene, you;d say a Compeller could be good for drum O/H's while tracking
to keep form getting "overs" while still getting a good hot signal into your
pres?
It is sort of like an RNC on supernice no? Right now, I only have a lowly
DBX 166 for this (old one) although, I read somewhere recently that the old
166's are close to the old ssl..Was that you who wrote that? MAy have been
Fletcher


"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"cujo" <chris@ap
Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59935 is a reply to message #59657] Sun, 06 November 2005 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
>yeah.....:-)
>
>
>
>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>news:4367d87c@linux...
>> At "Peggy's Cove" Elementary by the sounds of it... ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>
>> > But last in spelling...right?
>> >
>> > ;-)
>> >
>> > dcn
>> >
>> > "Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in =
message
>> > news:4365a87e@linux...
>> >
>> >>Pour Grammor!!!!!????? Me???
>> >>My Ass!!!!
>> >>I graduate top onners at me scoool !!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:4363adea@linux...
>> >>
>> >>>That's a problem with an international forum... subtleties get =
lost in
>> >>>translation. Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! =
:-)
>> >>>
>> >>>David.
>> >>>
>> >>>TC wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hey Dimitrios,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I think he was joking, it was a pun at Brandon's wording of =
"I will
>buy
>> >>>>Dimitrios"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, =
not
>anything
>> >>>>to do with wormhole..
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>TC
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Dimitrios wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Dear Rick,
>> >>>>>I am really dissapointed in your post.
>> >>>>>If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is =
slavery to
>buy
>> >>>>>something
>> >>>>>that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering =
the som
>> >>
>> >>many
>> >>
>> >>>>>hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as =
much as
>> >>>>>possible
>> >>>>>without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin =
that
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>>>makes me feel sad.
>> >>>>>I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the =
efoorts here
>> >>
>> >>and
>> >>
>> >>>>>that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that =
help
>Paris
>> >>
>> >>.
>> >>
>> >>>>>I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so =
for 3 adat
>> >>>>>cards
>> >>>>>750 $.
>> >>>>>plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit =
tracks
>> >>>>>from one
>> >>>>>PC to another.
>> >>>>>Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating =
until you
>> >>
>> >>use
>> >>
>> >>>>>Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
>> >>>>>So if you think that I am giving you guys a hard time then =
sorry I
>> >>>>>will stop
>> >>>>>what I am doing these last months.
>> >>>>>thanks to all of you anyway.
>> >>>>>Regards,
>> >>>>>Dimitrios
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>"i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a =
non pc
>> >>>>>>correct society.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
>> >>>>>><brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>i will buy Dimitrios.
>> >>>>>>>brandon
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:4361ea71$1@linux...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Hello to everyone.
>> >>>>>>>>After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's =
author- I have
>> >>>>>>>>concluded
>> >>>>>>>>that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) =
so maybe
>> >>>>>>>>major
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>updates
>> >>>>>>>>will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his =
efforts to
>> >>>>>>>>"selling"
>> >>>>>>>>appz.
>> >>>>>>>>I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like =
Adrian to
>> >>
>> >>support
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>plugins
>> >>>>>>>>like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with =
tremendous
Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59936 is a reply to message #59807] Sun, 06 November 2005 09:50 Go to previous message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
>present
>> >>>>>>>>and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>future
>> >>>>>>>>possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole =
lighter so to
>> >>
>> >>have
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>even
>> >>>>>>>>more instances).
>> >>>>>>>>I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that =
makes me
>> >>>>>>>>sad
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail =
somehow.
>> >>>>>>>>If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
>> >>>>>>>>Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris =
oriented-
>> >>>>>>>>updates
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>with
>> >>>>>>>>wormhole...
>> >>>>>>>>Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as =
two
>channel
>> >>>>>>>>cross
>> >>>>>>>>bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON =
SAME
>COMPUTER
>> >>>>>>>>WITH
>> >>>>>>>>DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
>> >>>>>>>>If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say =
10 and
>> >>
>> >>over
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>will
>> >>>>>>>>kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
>> >>>>>>>>Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this =
plugin is.
>> >>>>>>>>We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) =
and we
>> >>>>>>>>certainly
>> >>>>>>>>need wormhole.
>> >>>>>>>>It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter =
where audio
>> >>>>>>>>technology
>> >>>>>>>>will go.
>> >>>>>>>>You will always have Paris thus connected with modern =
pc's doing
>> >>
>> >>what
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>> >>>>>>>>Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but =
noone else
>> >>>>>>>>except
>> >>>>>>>>for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help =
us
>> >>>>>>>>,Paris
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>users.
>> >>>>>>>>I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY =
compensator for VST
>> >>>>>>>>plugins
>> >>>>>>>>which I think would be great if succeeded.
>> >>>>>>>>Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I =
will be
>> >>>>>>>>having
>> >>>>>>>>no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>> >>>>>>>>This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>> >>>>>>>>Please respond with signing also.
>> >>>>>>>>With regards,
>> >>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris is so Kewel you could have it on =
two=20
computers!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>El Miguel </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:43699234@linux">news:43699234@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would buy&nbsp;Wormhole if I saw =
any benefit to=20
my situation but I'm not sure</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it will help me.&nbsp; I like staying =
in=20
Paris.&nbsp; The only thing that would</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>help me is to use a second computer =
with Cubase=20
to send softsynths</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to Paris and/or process&nbsp;outboard =
DX/VST=20
effects for Paris global</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or even inserts if extra dsp was =
needed.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From what I know it won't help me =
greatly for any=20
of these things without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tying down the CPU and still have =
latency=20
issues.&nbsp; I'd do better using</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>realtime ADAT in/out and I already =
have=20
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I'm wrong tell me why.&nbsp; With =
Paris being=20
the mother ship I don't see any</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>great options here.&nbsp; On the =
other hand I'd=20
be glad to buy a latency compensating</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>version of Paris when that comes down =
the=20
pike.&nbsp; I won't hold my breath waiting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Dimitrios for your work.&nbsp; =
I'm sure=20
many will still benefit from your effort.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:7v5hm11t9g90b9p2hg0ndje8guo7qk385e@4ax.com">news:7v5hm11t9g9=
0b9p2hg0ndje8guo7qk385e@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>yoor=20
sole got mie ass in trubble<BR><BR>On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:06:54 =
-0600,=20
"Brandon"<BR>&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net">brandon_goodwin@R=
EMOVETHISsbcglobal.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;You guys just don't appreciate the ART of=20
language.<BR>&gt;It doesn't have to be technically correct at all =
times you=20
know??....!!!<BR>&gt;It's an expression of ones soul...open your =
minds and=20
take it in...<BR>&gt;so simple.. yet so=20
=
comprehendable..<BR>&gt;yeah.....:-)<BR>&gt;<BR >&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;"EK=20
Sound" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;news:4367d87c@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt; At =
"Peggy's Cove"=20
Elementary by the sounds of it... ;-)<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
David.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Don Nafe =
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
But last in spelling...right?<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
;-)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; dcn<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
"Brandon" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net">brandon_goodwin@R=
EMOVETHISsbcglobal.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; <A=20
href=3D"news:4365a87e@linux">news:4365a87e@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Pour Grammor!!!!!????? Me???<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;My=20
Ass!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;I graduate top onners at me scoool=20
!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;"EK=20
Sound" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;news:4363adea@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;That's a problem with an =
international=20
forum... subtleties get lost in<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;translation.&nbsp;=20
Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! :-)<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;David.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;TC wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Hey Dimitrios,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I think he was joking, =
it was a=20
pun at Brandon's wording of "I will<BR>&gt;buy<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios"<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios,&nbsp; with =
cash=20
money, not<BR>&gt;anything<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;to do with=20
wormhole..<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Cheers,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;TC<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dear =
Rick,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I am really dissapointed in your =
post.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;If you don't care buying thats ok but saying =
that it is=20
slavery to<BR>&gt;buy<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;something<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that is so innovative for Paris and not only and =

considering the som<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;many<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;hours=20
spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much =
as<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;possible<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;without =
me=20
being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;really<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;makes me feel sad.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I was=20
hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts =
here<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap =
plugins=20
that help<BR>&gt;Paris<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I see =
people=20
here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so&nbsp; for 3 =
adat<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;cards<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;750 =
$.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 =
adat 20=20
bit tracks<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;from one<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;PC to another.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Now a=20
simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until =
you<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;use<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 =
Ghz=20
cpu.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;So if you think that I am =
giving you=20
guys a hard time then sorry I<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;will=20
stop<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;what I am doing these last=20
months.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;thanks to all of you=20
anyway.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Regards,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Dimitrios<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;rick&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"i will buy =

Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;correct society.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;On Fri, =
28 Oct=20
2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net">brandon_goodwin@R=
EMOVETHISsbcglobal.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;i will buy&nbsp; Dimitrios.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;bran don <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"Dimitrios " &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>&gt; wrote =
in=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Hello to everyone.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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-wormhole's author- I have<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;will get longer to support as he has =
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concentrate his efforts to<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt; "selling"<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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authors like Adrian to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;future <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;more instances).<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;I don't see us people here =
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wormhole and that makes me<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
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my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;with <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;Please sign here if you care for =
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------=_NextPart_000_01A8_01C5E2BF.E40411B0--"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>What about the 160X? Gene, do you like these and if so what for?
>Also, are you guys now saying the extra conversion by going external at
the
>mix buss is not a big deal? If so anyone ever run a mix thtrough a pair
of
>Mic Pres (GR NV 0or API or somthing) before the compressor to beef things
>up?
>

160X is O.K., but I have many compressors I would reach for first. I certainly
have used them in mixes that I have done in commercial studios once I have
used up the other choices the studio may have. Not bad on bass or electric
guitar. I don’t own one. It is very popular for SR because of its low price
point.

The negative effect you get going through a D/A-A/D pass at mixdown is lessened
considerably by the use of high-end converters. Ultimately, if you have access
to great analog gear you will probably come out ahead even with the converter
pass.
Most mastering engineers still use analog for this reason.

As to mic pres in the mixdown, two issues…you need to be careful with impedance,
particularly with transformer coupled devices. Mic pres are generally designed
to match 300-ohm mics, a severe mismatch will make your mix sound very small.
Also, most preamps have a minimum gain requirement and many only sound good
at higher gains. You can’t put +4 into a mic pre and then add 30db of gain.
If you lower the level entering the pre, you seriously reduce your signal
to noise ratio.
Of course, some mic pres have line inputs as well and that is a different
story. Most Neve pres will also accept line level and can be used to help
pump up a mix. I like the 1084 for this.

A good lesson that most engineers fail to follow, is:
LISTEN WITH IT OUT. Most engineers will try adding a compressor, eq or effect
and get the track to sound good and move on. It only takes a few seconds
to listen back and forth and see if it’s actually better without it, but
its rare to find an engineer that follows this simple procedure. I should
have that in my signature.

Gene>Of course, some mic pres have line inputs as well and that is a different
>story. Most Neve pres will also accept line level and can be used to help
>pump up a mix. I like the 1084 for this.
>
>Gene
>
So you mean, the DA/AD with the stock Paris converters the gains could still
outweigh the issues?


yeah, this is what I meant, take paris outs in to a pre like my BAE 312 via
1/4" then into even my 166 with just tiny amount of GR. Of course I'd check
with out it, but I wondered if it was done. One example of why I would want
to do this would be on a CD I am mixing that was recorded ny a band at thier
home studio on rudimentary gear. It would be cool if this added some meat
and nice color.




Thanks for your input Gene,John,

Last I heard, ID hadn't completely given up on the hope that they could make
PARIS a viable product somehow. I certainly don't agree with how they handled
things around here - because I don't think they acted in their best interest,
never mind ours.

But, anyone who thinks that a small number of users with obsolete hardware
are going to get custom software written for nothing is nuts - no matter
what was said or promised. It's just not going to happen. And that's what
ID was being asked to do when Emu backed out.

It's too bad thet everyone didn't communicate better and show more understanding
at the time. Maybe if ID had said something to the effect that "Emu backing
out changes everything, so who is willing to pay more to keep this thing
going?" We could have worked something out. But with people calling them
names and threatening to sue them, there wasn't even a chance of that happening.


If what we wan is for someone else to pour a bunch of money into something
for which they will never get a return, we're crazy. It's not going to happen.
There was never any chance it would happen. Maybe ID should pay all our
credit card bills, too? Or buy us all a house?

All the best,
Mike


John <no@no.com> wrote:
>luckily ID says they are still going to have an upgrade to the software

>so we'll be sitting pretty very very SOON. If you email them today they

>still insist they will have an upgrade. Amazing ! Can anyone imagine

>that this could actually happen?
>
>Mike Audet wrote:
>> That was my feeling when it all went down, too. Emu did a big, long pre
announcement
>> about the new Emu PARIS Pro, during which there were a whole lot of 'b'
stock
>> items to buy at old prices - selling down inventory. And then it turns
out
>> that even the new Emu PARIS Pro stuff was just old inventory repainted
-
>> more selling down inventory. I really think that ID were the ones burnt
>> the worst in that deal because they actually spent money developing 3.0
during
>> that time thinking there was going to be long term growth over which they
>> could make their investment back.
>>
>> It was a bad situation.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "JM" <notthistime@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On the Adat ROM v.1.0 is the only version. Around 1999 I asked E P, MM,
>>
>> and
>>
>>>KM if we got a newer version of the Alesis ROM chip would the Adat card
>>
>> pass
>>
>>>24bits. They all got silent, look dumbfounded, and EP said I don't know
>>>why don't you find out and let us know. Well I was a P. dealer not their
>>>R & D department. I should have seen the writing on the wall, that they
>>>were not serious about developing the hardware. It is my opinion that
>>
>> they
>>
>>>wanted to slap paint and software on the product and liquidate there inventory!
>>>
>>>
>>>I have thought of contacting Alesis, but I think it would take a software
>>>rewrite, and that is not likely to happen.
>>>
>>>JM
>>>
>>>"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes Aaron, you're right... that pictures are from my and my
>>>>friends spare components...
>>>>But there is a huge potential.... to make a database with revisions,
ROM-s,
>>>>etc...
>>>>
>>>>Via software? Definitely no...
>>>>maybe few things from "paris information" window.
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering is there any MEC or ADAT with ROM higher than 1.00...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>Suad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:436997c6@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig
apart
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is
there
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart,
>>>>>say.. via software?
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
>>>>>>Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and
>>>>
>>>>blue.
>>>>
>>>>>>BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
>>>>>>Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
>>>>>>PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought that we could make come research on how many revisions of
>>>>>>paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which
>>>>>>ones are the newest.
>>>>>>ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations
>>>>>>are working for someone and for someone not", and why some
>>>>
>>>>configurations
>>>>
>>>>>>doesn't work at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope there will be a huge response for this topic.
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