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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75947 is a reply to message #75932] |
Mon, 13 November 2006 13:25   |
Martin Harrington
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Keep It Simple Stupid..........
;>)
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45589786@linux...
> KISS???..........not sure what this means but if it refers to simplifying
> things/using fewer of any particular device(s).....I wouldn't have a clue.
>
> ;)
>
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:45580ce0$1@linux...
>> Deej, I guess you don't subscribe to the KISS principal, huh?
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45580005$1@linux...
>> > You'd be surprised how many tracks can be accummulated when you've got
> 12
>> > mics on a drum kit, three fiddles with a pair of mics on each one, a
> pair
>> > of
>> > mics on a bass amp and a DI, a pair of mics on rythym guitar, a stereo
>> > piano, a mono mic on lead guitar, dobro and mandolin and a lead vocal
> with
>> > 3-4 part harmony vocals added.
>> >
>> > A mix like this can get pretty busy and muddy. Paris seems to handle it
>> > better than Cubase ITB. the three cards are so I can be able to stream
> 40
>> > tracks via ADAT from Cubase to Paris if I decide that's the route I
>> > want
>> > to
>> > continue to take once the dust clears. So far, the Pulsar cards have
> been
>> > extremely stable. I'm hoping to continue that kind of stability when
>> > streaming 40 tracks from Cubase to Paris for summing. I'm also liking
> just
>> > patching Creamware processors into Paris tracks on different submixes.
>> > It's
>> > all DSP based/zero audible latency at that point but I'm not using my
>> > UAD-1
>> > cards. Still, the Creamware DSP based hardware is impressing me a lot.
>> > Very
>> > hig quality. If I can find some Pulsar EQ's that can give me the same
> mojo
>> > that the UAD 1073 does, I'm going to be a happy camper. If I don't have
>> > 1073's, I will die.
>> >
>> > ;o)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4557fb52$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >> >Well ****!!! Man........I was *really* hoping that Mix C was
>> >> >the native mix. The way the vocal sat in the mix was a dead
>> >> >giveaway but I was soooooo hoping that C was the native ITB
>> >> >mix. You don't know how much. ;o)
>> >>
>> >> I know, the whole "two-computer" thing is a clusterfuck, no
>> >> matter what... just this somewhat simple experiment took me
>> >> quite awhile to set up, and then youre dealing with stuff
>> >> like: "OK, so I have to monitor through Paris for the analog
>> >> summing part, but then what do I do with the other mixes?
>> >> Repatch my monitors? Re-route through my VST outputs? OK, so
>> >> I guess I'll just save three different versions of this one
>> >> project, then" lol
>> >>
>> >> >I think you would have a bit more detail and depth to the
>> >> >soundstage on mix C if you were streaming the tracks over ADAT
>> >> >into Paris rather than the AD/DA conversion
>> >>
>> >> Can't do it... Even if I had a couple of Paris ADAT cards, I
>> >> couldn't do it... how would I get from my 88.2k samplerate
>> >> coming out of my ADAT outs, to the 44.1k Paris ADAT protocol?
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks for taking the time to do this test Neil. Guess my ears
>> >> >haven't been playing tricks on me recently.
>> >>
>> >> No prob!
>> >>
>> >> >I think you may have a nice surprise when you get the Pulsar
>> >> >card. I think you're going to have something closer to a
>> >> >cross between mix B & C.
>> >>
>> >> That would RAWK - seriously! To be able to have the phase-
>> >> coherence of staying 2-track ITB all the way through, yet
>> >> getting better summing out of the whole deal, while retaining
>> >> the definititon & clarity up top (again, listen to mix "B"
>> >> guys... that's just an MP3 file and even at that resolution
>> >> you can STILL hear what 88.2k can do for you!) - that would
>> >> KILL. And I'd love it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Once my 3rd card comes in, I'll get around to doing something
>> >> >similar and post it up.
>> >>
>> >> Why do you need three cards? What the hell are you doing with
>> >> that bluegrass stuff you've been recording... turning it into
>> >> a damn 60-track symphony? POST SOME CLIPS NOW! lol
>> >>
>> >> Neil
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75950 is a reply to message #75921] |
Mon, 13 November 2006 14:45 |
Jamie K
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Nice! Sounds like you're pretty lucky yourself, Martin.
My wife is a classically trained singing teacher. She also teaches
speaking voice and dialects so we see a lot of theater performances. I'm
not complaining. :^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Martin Harrington wrote:
> Lucky boy...
> My wife works for Opera Australia, so I get to see all the operas on tech
> night or opening night, which is pretty cool.
<Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4557f074$1@linux...
> >
> > FWIW, C is the softest starting out, A is the loudest and B is in the
> > middle (according to my DB meter).
> >
> > That said, C also seems to be somewhat muffled compared to the
other two.
> > A feels like it's the most open.
> >
> > Keeping in mind that I just got back from the opera and I still have
> > sopranos ringing in my ears (Magic Flute)...
> >
> > So lessee, how about:
> >
> > A - Stems
> > B - SX
> > C - Paris
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Jamie
> > www.JamieKrutz.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil wrote:
>> >> Three files total... one's a 'Mixed in SX, Summed in Paris'
>> >> mix, another is a straight-ahead SX 2-Buss Mix, and another
>> >> is an SX Stems Mix (note: NOT necessarily in the order I
>> >> just mentioned):
>> >>
>> >>
http://www.saqqararecords.com/Music/Neil/Summing%20Experimen t%20ClipA.mp3
>> >>
>> >>
http://www.saqqararecords.com/Music/Neil/Summing%20Experimen t%20ClipB.mp3
>> >>
>> >>
http://www.saqqararecords.com/Music/Neil/Summing%20Experimen t%20ClipC.mp3
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They're fairly short... 1:14 each, just enough to get a touch of
>> >> instrumentation by itself, a portion with lead vox, then
>> >> background vox. They're Hi-Rez mp3's.
>> >>
>> >> Any guesses as to which is which? Or better yet, which one do
>> >> you like better?
>> >>
>> >> Neil
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75954 is a reply to message #75947] |
Mon, 13 November 2006 15:57 |
DJ
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I tried.........it's impossible.
;o)
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:4558e077$1@linux...
> Keep It Simple Stupid..........
> ;>)
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45589786@linux...
> > KISS???..........not sure what this means but if it refers to
simplifying
> > things/using fewer of any particular device(s).....I wouldn't have a
clue.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> >
> > "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:45580ce0$1@linux...
> >> Deej, I guess you don't subscribe to the KISS principal, huh?
> >> --
> >> Martin Harrington
> >> www.lendanear-sound.com
> >>
> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45580005$1@linux...
> >> > You'd be surprised how many tracks can be accummulated when you've
got
> > 12
> >> > mics on a drum kit, three fiddles with a pair of mics on each one, a
> > pair
> >> > of
> >> > mics on a bass amp and a DI, a pair of mics on rythym guitar, a
stereo
> >> > piano, a mono mic on lead guitar, dobro and mandolin and a lead vocal
> > with
> >> > 3-4 part harmony vocals added.
> >> >
> >> > A mix like this can get pretty busy and muddy. Paris seems to handle
it
> >> > better than Cubase ITB. the three cards are so I can be able to
stream
> > 40
> >> > tracks via ADAT from Cubase to Paris if I decide that's the route I
> >> > want
> >> > to
> >> > continue to take once the dust clears. So far, the Pulsar cards have
> > been
> >> > extremely stable. I'm hoping to continue that kind of stability when
> >> > streaming 40 tracks from Cubase to Paris for summing. I'm also liking
> > just
> >> > patching Creamware processors into Paris tracks on different
submixes.
> >> > It's
> >> > all DSP based/zero audible latency at that point but I'm not using my
> >> > UAD-1
> >> > cards. Still, the Creamware DSP based hardware is impressing me a
lot.
> >> > Very
> >> > hig quality. If I can find some Pulsar EQ's that can give me the same
> > mojo
> >> > that the UAD 1073 does, I'm going to be a happy camper. If I don't
have
> >> > 1073's, I will die.
> >> >
> >> > ;o)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4557fb52$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >> >> >Well ****!!! Man........I was *really* hoping that Mix C was
> >> >> >the native mix. The way the vocal sat in the mix was a dead
> >> >> >giveaway but I was soooooo hoping that C was the native ITB
> >> >> >mix. You don't know how much. ;o)
> >> >>
> >> >> I know, the whole "two-computer" thing is a clusterfuck, no
> >> >> matter what... just this somewhat simple experiment took me
> >> >> quite awhile to set up, and then youre dealing with stuff
> >> >> like: "OK, so I have to monitor through Paris for the analog
> >> >> summing part, but then what do I do with the other mixes?
> >> >> Repatch my monitors? Re-route through my VST outputs? OK, so
> >> >> I guess I'll just save three different versions of this one
> >> >> project, then" lol
> >> >>
> >> >> >I think you would have a bit more detail and depth to the
> >> >> >soundstage on mix C if you were streaming the tracks over ADAT
> >> >> >into Paris rather than the AD/DA conversion
> >> >>
> >> >> Can't do it... Even if I had a couple of Paris ADAT cards, I
> >> >> couldn't do it... how would I get from my 88.2k samplerate
> >> >> coming out of my ADAT outs, to the 44.1k Paris ADAT protocol?
> >> >>
> >> >> >Thanks for taking the time to do this test Neil. Guess my ears
> >> >> >haven't been playing tricks on me recently.
> >> >>
> >> >> No prob!
> >> >>
> >> >> >I think you may have a nice surprise when you get the Pulsar
> >> >> >card. I think you're going to have something closer to a
> >> >> >cross between mix B & C.
> >> >>
> >> >> That would RAWK - seriously! To be able to have the phase-
> >> >> coherence of staying 2-track ITB all the way through, yet
> >> >> getting better summing out of the whole deal, while retaining
> >> >> the definititon & clarity up top (again, listen to mix "B"
> >> >> guys... that's just an MP3 file and even at that resolution
> >> >> you can STILL hear what 88.2k can do for you!) - that would
> >> >> KILL. And I'd love it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >Once my 3rd card comes in, I'll get around to doing something
> >> >> >similar and post it up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why do you need three cards? What the hell are you doing with
> >> >> that bluegrass stuff you've been recording... turning it into
> >> >> a damn 60-track symphony? POST SOME CLIPS NOW! lol
> >> >>
> >> >> Neil
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75955 is a reply to message #75928] |
Mon, 13 November 2006 17:33 |
Ted Gerber
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Yes-
I agree. The test you did was an excellent one to answer a specific
question. My comment was moving towards next step considerations.
I too have been wrestling with the Q of Native in addition to or instead
of Paris, although I think I like the character of Logic better than Nuendo
(? hate to take a stand on this).
I know that if I take tracking/mixing drums out of the equation (I seem to
suck at this) I can achieve good results with Paris.
I have a good friend North of Toronto whose been recording for 30 years.
He went to Pro Tools when he went digital, but 2 years ago outfiited his
studio
with a CuB-SX rig. He (by his own admission) has not been able to get the
sound out of that rig that I have been able to get out of Paris.
3 years ago I was playing with a Presonus MP 20.
I tested it by plugging in a Taylor 312-ce _direct_ and then did some soloing
with
an American standard Strat, also plugged _directly_ in and added a little
verb from
an M3000. The next week I was at another friends studio who had just installed
a big Neve purchased from Ocean Way. I played what I had tracked in Paris,
and one of the main engineers walked in during it and immediately began to
crow
about their new Neve and "doesn't it sound great and when did we track
this and who is this anyway?"
So any switch I make will be driven by MIDI needs and a desire to use some
plugs
-thinking of Duende- that I can't use with Paris. In the end, I suspect I'll
put up
with the workaround hassles and use both Paris and Native to get what I want.
Thanks again for your shared expertise and enthusiasm.
Peace,
Ted
>If had EQ'ed the Paris stuff any differently, it wouldn't have
>been as accurate of a comparison for the purposes of this test.
>Having said that, maybe that'll be the next step! Like I said,
>I'm looking for the "right stuff" for my own benefit as
>well... it's not as if I just went out & repurchased some
>Paris gear just in order to get you guys to drink my Native
>Kool-aid. :)
>
>So maybe the next step should be:
>
>1.) A clip of the Paris-Summing, but with some EQ applied (in
>Paris at the time of creating the 2-channel mix itself); trying
>to match as closely as possible the upper mids & highs of
>clip "B" (the Native Stems mix).
>
>2.) A clip of the Native Stems themselves imported into Paris
>(like someone asked about); but since the stems are at 88.1k
>I'm not sure if I should samplerate convert them using dither
>or do it with no dither.
>
>Neil
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75972 is a reply to message #75954] |
Tue, 14 November 2006 08:48 |
Neil
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Yes, instead of "KISS" Deej subscribes to the "KICC" formula
(Keep It Convoluted & Complicated)
:)
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>I tried.........it's impossible.
>
>;o)
>
>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>news:4558e077$1@linux...
>> Keep It Simple Stupid..........
>> ;>)
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45589786@linux...
>> > KISS???..........not sure what this means but if it refers to
>simplifying
>> > things/using fewer of any particular device(s).....I wouldn't have a
>clue.
>> >
>> > ;)
>> >
>> >
>> > "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>> > news:45580ce0$1@linux...
>> >> Deej, I guess you don't subscribe to the KISS principal, huh?
>> >> --
>> >> Martin Harrington
>> >> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45580005$1@linux...
>> >> > You'd be surprised how many tracks can be accummulated when you've
>got
>> > 12
>> >> > mics on a drum kit, three fiddles with a pair of mics on each one,
a
>> > pair
>> >> > of
>> >> > mics on a bass amp and a DI, a pair of mics on rythym guitar, a
>stereo
>> >> > piano, a mono mic on lead guitar, dobro and mandolin and a lead vocal
>> > with
>> >> > 3-4 part harmony vocals added.
>> >> >
>> >> > A mix like this can get pretty busy and muddy. Paris seems to handle
>it
>> >> > better than Cubase ITB. the three cards are so I can be able to
>stream
>> > 40
>> >> > tracks via ADAT from Cubase to Paris if I decide that's the route
I
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > continue to take once the dust clears. So far, the Pulsar cards have
>> > been
>> >> > extremely stable. I'm hoping to continue that kind of stability when
>> >> > streaming 40 tracks from Cubase to Paris for summing. I'm also liking
>> > just
>> >> > patching Creamware processors into Paris tracks on different
>submixes.
>> >> > It's
>> >> > all DSP based/zero audible latency at that point but I'm not using
my
>> >> > UAD-1
>> >> > cards. Still, the Creamware DSP based hardware is impressing me a
>lot.
>> >> > Very
>> >> > hig quality. If I can find some Pulsar EQ's that can give me the
same
>> > mojo
>> >> > that the UAD 1073 does, I'm going to be a happy camper. If I don't
>have
>> >> > 1073's, I will die.
>> >> >
>> >> > ;o)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4557fb52$1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >Well ****!!! Man........I was *really* hoping that Mix C was
>> >> >> >the native mix. The way the vocal sat in the mix was a dead
>> >> >> >giveaway but I was soooooo hoping that C was the native ITB
>> >> >> >mix. You don't know how much. ;o)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know, the whole "two-computer" thing is a clusterfuck, no
>> >> >> matter what... just this somewhat simple experiment took me
>> >> >> quite awhile to set up, and then youre dealing with stuff
>> >> >> like: "OK, so I have to monitor through Paris for the analog
>> >> >> summing part, but then what do I do with the other mixes?
>> >> >> Repatch my monitors? Re-route through my VST outputs? OK, so
>> >> >> I guess I'll just save three different versions of this one
>> >> >> project, then" lol
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I think you would have a bit more detail and depth to the
>> >> >> >soundstage on mix C if you were streaming the tracks over ADAT
>> >> >> >into Paris rather than the AD/DA conversion
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can't do it... Even if I had a couple of Paris ADAT cards, I
>> >> >> couldn't do it... how would I get from my 88.2k samplerate
>> >> >> coming out of my ADAT outs, to the 44.1k Paris ADAT protocol?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Thanks for taking the time to do this test Neil. Guess my ears
>> >> >> >haven't been playing tricks on me recently.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No prob!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I think you may have a nice surprise when you get the Pulsar
>> >> >> >card. I think you're going to have something closer to a
>> >> >> >cross between mix B & C.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That would RAWK - seriously! To be able to have the phase-
>> >> >> coherence of staying 2-track ITB all the way through, yet
>> >> >> getting better summing out of the whole deal, while retaining
>> >> >> the definititon & clarity up top (again, listen to mix "B"
>> >> >> guys... that's just an MP3 file and even at that resolution
>> >> >> you can STILL hear what 88.2k can do for you!) - that would
>> >> >> KILL. And I'd love it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Once my 3rd card comes in, I'll get around to doing something
>> >> >> >similar and post it up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you need three cards? What the hell are you doing with
>> >> >> that bluegrass stuff you've been recording... turning it into
>> >> >> a damn 60-track symphony? POST SOME CLIPS NOW! lol
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Neil
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75975 is a reply to message #75972] |
Tue, 14 November 2006 08:38 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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Yesssss!!!!!!
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4559e54b$1@linux...
>
> Yes, instead of "KISS" Deej subscribes to the "KICC" formula
> (Keep It Convoluted & Complicated)
>
> :)
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >I tried.........it's impossible.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> >news:4558e077$1@linux...
> >> Keep It Simple Stupid..........
> >> ;>)
> >> --
> >> Martin Harrington
> >> www.lendanear-sound.com
> >>
> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45589786@linux...
> >> > KISS???..........not sure what this means but if it refers to
> >simplifying
> >> > things/using fewer of any particular device(s).....I wouldn't have a
> >clue.
> >> >
> >> > ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> >> > news:45580ce0$1@linux...
> >> >> Deej, I guess you don't subscribe to the KISS principal, huh?
> >> >> --
> >> >> Martin Harrington
> >> >> www.lendanear-sound.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45580005$1@linux...
> >> >> > You'd be surprised how many tracks can be accummulated when you've
> >got
> >> > 12
> >> >> > mics on a drum kit, three fiddles with a pair of mics on each one,
> a
> >> > pair
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > mics on a bass amp and a DI, a pair of mics on rythym guitar, a
> >stereo
> >> >> > piano, a mono mic on lead guitar, dobro and mandolin and a lead
vocal
> >> > with
> >> >> > 3-4 part harmony vocals added.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A mix like this can get pretty busy and muddy. Paris seems to
handle
> >it
> >> >> > better than Cubase ITB. the three cards are so I can be able to
> >stream
> >> > 40
> >> >> > tracks via ADAT from Cubase to Paris if I decide that's the route
> I
> >> >> > want
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > continue to take once the dust clears. So far, the Pulsar cards
have
> >> > been
> >> >> > extremely stable. I'm hoping to continue that kind of stability
when
> >> >> > streaming 40 tracks from Cubase to Paris for summing. I'm also
liking
> >> > just
> >> >> > patching Creamware processors into Paris tracks on different
> >submixes.
> >> >> > It's
> >> >> > all DSP based/zero audible latency at that point but I'm not using
> my
> >> >> > UAD-1
> >> >> > cards. Still, the Creamware DSP based hardware is impressing me a
> >lot.
> >> >> > Very
> >> >> > hig quality. If I can find some Pulsar EQ's that can give me the
> same
> >> > mojo
> >> >> > that the UAD 1073 does, I'm going to be a happy camper. If I don't
> >have
> >> >> > 1073's, I will die.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ;o)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4557fb52$1@linux...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >Well ****!!! Man........I was *really* hoping that Mix C was
> >> >> >> >the native mix. The way the vocal sat in the mix was a dead
> >> >> >> >giveaway but I was soooooo hoping that C was the native ITB
> >> >> >> >mix. You don't know how much. ;o)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I know, the whole "two-computer" thing is a clusterfuck, no
> >> >> >> matter what... just this somewhat simple experiment took me
> >> >> >> quite awhile to set up, and then youre dealing with stuff
> >> >> >> like: "OK, so I have to monitor through Paris for the analog
> >> >> >> summing part, but then what do I do with the other mixes?
> >> >> >> Repatch my monitors? Re-route through my VST outputs? OK, so
> >> >> >> I guess I'll just save three different versions of this one
> >> >> >> project, then" lol
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I think you would have a bit more detail and depth to the
> >> >> >> >soundstage on mix C if you were streaming the tracks over ADAT
> >> >> >> >into Paris rather than the AD/DA conversion
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Can't do it... Even if I had a couple of Paris ADAT cards, I
> >> >> >> couldn't do it... how would I get from my 88.2k samplerate
> >> >> >> coming out of my ADAT outs, to the 44.1k Paris ADAT protocol?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Thanks for taking the time to do this test Neil. Guess my ears
> >> >> >> >haven't been playing tricks on me recently.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> No prob!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I think you may have a nice surprise when you get the Pulsar
> >> >> >> >card. I think you're going to have something closer to a
> >> >> >> >cross between mix B & C.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That would RAWK - seriously! To be able to have the phase-
> >> >> >> coherence of staying 2-track ITB all the way through, yet
> >> >> >> getting better summing out of the whole deal, while retaining
> >> >> >> the definititon & clarity up top (again, listen to mix "B"
> >> >> >> guys... that's just an MP3 file and even at that resolution
> >> >> >> you can STILL hear what 88.2k can do for you!) - that would
> >> >> >> KILL. And I'd love it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Once my 3rd card comes in, I'll get around to doing something
> >> >> >> >similar and post it up.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you need three cards? What the hell are you doing with
> >> >> >> that bluegrass stuff you've been recording... turning it into
> >> >> >> a damn 60-track symphony? POST SOME CLIPS NOW! lol
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Neil
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>
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