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Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70054] Sat, 08 July 2006 01:16 Go to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hi, all.
My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
at some stage.
It appears the time is nigh!!
I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
is one of the fave mobos.
(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
to preserve what's left of my hair??
I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
Did it pan out for you??
Thanks,
Kim #2.
BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70055 is a reply to message #70054] Sat, 08 July 2006 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
Cheers.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, all.
>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>at some stage.
>It appears the time is nigh!!
>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>is one of the fave mobos.
>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>Did it pan out for you??
>Thanks,
>Kim #2.
>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70058 is a reply to message #70055] Sat, 08 July 2006 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868

I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
a better motherboard.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>Cheers.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all.
>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>at some stage.
>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>Did it pan out for you??
>>Thanks,
>>Kim #2.
>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70059 is a reply to message #70055] Sat, 08 July 2006 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless they've
added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use. It's
quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.

My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
but that seems unlikely...)

Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though, and
only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
take it back before my warranty runs out...).

It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>Cheers.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all.
>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>at some stage.
>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>Did it pan out for you??
>>Thanks,
>>Kim #2.
>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70060 is a reply to message #70058] Sat, 08 July 2006 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Registered: October 2005
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Nope, this one... five slots:

http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?ProductID=1839

If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for each
slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can seperate
as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.

....and it's really stable and really quick. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868
>
>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>a better motherboard.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>Cheers.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>at some stage.
>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kim #2.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70061 is a reply to message #70059] Sat, 08 July 2006 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That may
be an issue for you.

If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless they've
>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
It's
>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>
>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>but that seems unlikely...)
>
>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
and
>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>
>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>Cheers.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>at some stage.
>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kim #2.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70062 is a reply to message #70061] Sat, 08 July 2006 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Thanks, Kim.
No Dual core.
Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
What version of Direct X are you using?
Is SP2 a no-go?
Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
image.
I'll look up the f6 bios.

Cheers,

Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
may
>be an issue for you.
>
>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
they've
>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>It's
>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>
>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>
>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>and
>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>
>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70063 is a reply to message #70062] Sat, 08 July 2006 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
I've been a pretty happy camper on XP SP-2 with this board.

I don't remember disabling anything, though I may have. I did go in and set
up the interrupts. I may have turned off things like the printer port. I'm
just having a look at F10 BIOS now and will report back in a moment (if the
computer boots ;o).

Not sure which DirectX I have... probably should know that... how do I
check?

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, Kim.
>No Dual core.
>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>What version of Direct X are you using?
>Is SP2 a no-go?
>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>image.
>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>may
>>be an issue for you.
>>
>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70064 is a reply to message #70062] Sat, 08 July 2006 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Good news. The F10 BIOS update seems to have the full IRQ control back on
board again. I'm running that now, and the machine boots. Can't tell you
much more.

I've updated BIOS as well as IDE drivers on board here in the hope that it
fixes my issue with losing HDD's. We'll see. I might be lucky...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, Kim.
>No Dual core.
>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>What version of Direct X are you using?
>Is SP2 a no-go?
>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>image.
>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>may
>>be an issue for you.
>>
>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70065 is a reply to message #70063] Sat, 08 July 2006 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hi, Kim.
Search for DXdiag.exe
It's probably in windows/system32 directory.
That will tell you which DirectX version you are running.
Thanks.
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've been a pretty happy camper on XP SP-2 with this board.
>
>I don't remember disabling anything, though I may have. I did go in and
set
>up the interrupts. I may have turned off things like the printer port. I'm
>just having a look at F10 BIOS now and will report back in a mom

ent (if the
>computer boots ;o).
>
>Not sure which DirectX I have... probably should know that... how do I
>check?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>may
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>the
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>It's
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>maybe
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>and
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>apart
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70066 is a reply to message #70062] Sat, 08 July 2006 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Running DirextX 9.0c...

Cheers
Kim.

"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, Kim.
>No Dual core.
>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>What version of Direct X are you using?
>Is SP2 a no-go?
>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>image.
>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>may
>>be an issue for you.
>>
>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70067 is a reply to message #70066] Sat, 08 July 2006 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no is currently offline  no
Messages: 40
Registered: January 2008
Member
Cool!
Hope you don't mind if I need to pick your brains a bit over the next few
days if I need to.
I need to be up and running by wednesday.
Thanks again for your advice.
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Running DirextX 9.0c...
>
>Cheers
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>may
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>the
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>It's
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>maybe
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>and
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>apart
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70068 is a reply to message #70067] Sat, 08 July 2006 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Pick away. Happy to be of help where I can. Good luck.

And GHOST GHOST GHOST!!

Cheers,
Kim.


"Kim W." <no@way.com.> wrote:
>
>Cool!
>Hope you don't mind if I need to pick your brains a bit over the next few
>days if I need to.
>I need to be up and running by wednesday.
>Thanks again for your advice.
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Running DirextX 9.0c...
>>
>>Cheers
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks, Kim.
>>>No Dual core.
>>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about
to
>>>image.
>>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>>may
>>>>be an issue for you.
>>>>
>>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
>BIOS
>>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>the
>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>they've
>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>>It's
>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>maybe
>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>and
>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>apart
>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>attempt
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70069 is a reply to message #70059] Sat, 08 July 2006 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me

Kim wrote:
> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless they've
> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use. It's
> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>
> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
> but that seems unlikely...)
>
> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though, and
> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>
> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>Cheers.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>at some stage.
>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kim #2.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70070 is a reply to message #70060] Sat, 08 July 2006 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
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Senior Member
excellent potential !

Kim wrote:
> Nope, this one... five slots:
>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?ProductID=1839
>
> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for each
> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can seperate
> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>
> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868
>>
>>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
>>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
>>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
>>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>>a better motherboard.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70071 is a reply to message #70060] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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I'm reading that AGP shares with 1 $ 5 so I really on get 4 IRQs. Still
good but why can't motherboards find a workaround to give me 20 slots
and 20 irqs?

Kim wrote:
> Nope, this one... five slots:
>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?ProductID=1839
>
> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for each
> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can seperate
> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>
> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868
>>
>>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
>>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
>>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
>>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>>a better motherboard.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70072 is a reply to message #70063] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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I did all these things for xp but the IRQ problem has really been the
major problem here but it's finally sorted out but I can't even add a
freaking audio card cuz of IRQs. I currently have 2 eds and one agp
video and ethernet. Really lame.



run the setup app to install the scherzo drivers, reboot, then install
Paris, reboot, then the effects subsystem, then reboot.


musicxp.com tips

Processor Scheduling for Background Services
Visual Effects for best performance
Switch Off Desktop Background Image
Disable Screen Saver
Disable Fast User Switching
Switch Off Power Schemes
Switch Off Hibernation
Disable System Sounds
Do Not Map Through Soundcard
Disable System Restore
Disable Automatic Updates
Startup and Recovery Options
Disable Error Reporting
Disable Remote Assistance
Fixed Swap File (Virtual Memory)
Speed up Menus
Disable Offline Files
Disable Remote Desktop
Disable Internet Synchronise Time
Disable Hide Inactive Icons
Disable Automatic Desktop Cleanup Wizard
Disable NTFS Last Access Time Logging (NTFS Only)
Disable Notification Area Balloon Tips
Disable CDROM Autoplay
Disable Disc Indexing

-----------------------------------------
Additional tips
-----------------------------------------

2 audio Partitions
Use NTFS drives with 64k clusters
In BIOS disable USB, LPT1, Serial port
Remove Messenger
Classic Mode
Classic Start Menu
Power Schemes: you can have the monitor turn off but set Turn Hard
Drives off to NEVER
Disable the Computer Browser in Services to improve mapped drive browsing.
Disable your network card by right clicking on the nic icon
Defrag regularly
Keep your desktop clean
No wallpapers
Set video to highest color depth
Increase your IRQ priority
Disable Power Management
Set graphic acceleration to full
Disable background applications
Disable USB
Graphical window settings
Disable NTFS Last Access Time Logging (NTFS Only)
Maker sure DMA mode is enabled on drives

Restart your machine at this point in time. When you come back the first
thing you should do is defrag the main drive even if it doesn't say it
needs it. This way the swap file has been truly set and you're ready to
continue.


------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------
Processor scheduling should be set to background services and not Programs.
Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance
Settings > Advanced Tab > Background Services

Advanced tab: Press Settings tab under Performance Visual Effects tab:
set to Adjust for Best Performance.

Switch Off Desktop Background Image
Right Click Desktop > Properties > Desktop Tab > Background None

Click on the Screen Saver tab, Set Screensaver to None, Press the Power
button near the bottom

Disable Fast User Switching
Start > Settings > Control Panel > User Accounts > Change the way users
log on or off > Untick Use Fast User Switching

Switch Off Power Schemes
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Power Options > Always On > Turn off
monitor and turn off hard discs to Never

Switch Off Hibernation
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Power Options > Hibernate > Untick
Hibernation

Disable System Sounds
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Sounds Tab
> Sound Scheme to None.

Do Not Map Through Soundcard
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Hardware
Tab > (highlight your soundcard from the list) > Properties > Audio
Devices > (highlight your soundcard from the list) > Properties, and
check the "Do not map through this device" checkbox.

Disable System Restore
Start > Settings > Control Panel> System > System Restore Tab. Tick the
"Turn off System Restore on all Drives"

Disable Automatic Updates
Switch off Automatic Updates by going to Control Panel, System,
Automatic Updates and ticking the box labelled "Turn off automatic
updating. I want to update my computer manually."

Startup and Recovery Options
Right click My Computer and click on Properties > Advanced > Start Up &
Recovery Settings and uncheck "Automatically Restart".

Disable Error Reporting
Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Advanced TAB > Error
Reporting > Click the Disable Error Reporting box (Tick the "But Notify
Me When Critical Errors Occur" if you prefer)

Disable Remote Assistance
Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Remote > Untick "Allow
Remote Assistance Invitations to be sent from this computer"

Disable Remote Desktop
Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Remote > Untick "Allow users
to connect remotely to this computer"

Fixed Swap File (Virtual Memory)
Select the Advanced tab of the Systems applet and then select the
Performance settings button. Then select the Advanced page. In here it
is possible to customise the Virtual Memory. For custom size, this is
often recommended to be 1.5 to 2 times the amount of your total RAM for
both initial and maximum size. Set this to a fixed minimum and maximum
value according to your existing RAM

Speed Up Menus
You can use this tip to speed up the Start Menu in Windows XP. You can
customize the speed of the Start Menu by editing a Registry Key. Click
Start, and then click Run. Type Regedit in the box, and then click OK.
Expand the menu in the left panel and select the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop folder. Scroll down in the right
panel and double click on the MenuShowDelay file. In the Value Data box,
change to default value for the menu speed from 400 to a lesser number,
such as 1. Click OK.

Disable Offline Files
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Folder Options > Offline Files >
Untick "Enable Offline Files"

Disable Internet Synchronise Time
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Date and Time > Internet Time >
Untick "Automatically synchronize with an internet time server"

Disable Hide Inactive Icons
Start > Settings > Taskbar and Start Menu > Taskbar TAB > Uncheck "Hide
Inactive Icons"

Disable Automatic Desktop Cleanup Wizard
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Display > Desktop > Customise Desktop
> Untick "Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard every 60 days"

Disable NTFS Last Access Time Logging (NTFS Only)
Start > Run > regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CURRENTCONTROLSET
> CONTROL > FILESYSTEM Add a new DWORD value -
"NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate" (without quotes) and set the value to 1.
Then reboot to make changes effective

Disable Notification Area Balloon Tips
Click Start , click Run , type regedit , and then press ENTER.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced Right-click the right pane, create a
new DWORD value, and then name it EnableBalloonTips . Double-click this
new entry, and then give it a hexadecimal value of 0 . Quit Registry
Editor. Log off Windows, and then log back on.

----------------------------------------------
Disable CDROM Autoplay
One of the very important (and well documented) tweaks in Windows 98SE,
was to disable CDROM autoplay (auto insert notification). Disabling
CDROM autoplay no longer offers a significant performance benefit in
Windows XP, and therefore you do not need to disable it. Just don't
insert a CD during a crucial recording.

However, if you really want to disable it then here a few different methods.

Method 1

Start > Run > Regedit

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdrom

Set autorun to 0.

Method 2

Open My Computer Right Click on each CDROM and choose Properties Click
on the Auto Play tab In the drop down box you can choose the Action for
each choice shown in the drop down box

Method 3

Go to Start->Run->gpedit.msc Computer Config -> Administrative Template
-> System Double click Turn off Autoplay Enable it.
----------------------------------------------

Disable Disc Indexing
Indexing Service is a service that extracts the information from a set
of documents and organizes it in a way that makes it quick and easy to
access that information through the Windows XP Search function, the
Indexing Service query form, or a Web browser.

This information can include text from within a document, (its
contents), and the characteristics and parameters of the document, (its
properties), such as the author's name. Once the index is created, you
can search, or query the index for documents that contain key words,
phrases, or properties.


-----------------------------------------
Additional tips Descriptions
-----------------------------------------

Partitioning. A useful tip when configuring your audio disc, is to
split this into two partitions. Set up a smaller "audio scratch"
partition - say 6GB of a 30GB hard disc. This partition will be used for
the songs that you are currently working on. The benefit of a smaller
partition is obviously quicker defragmentation. If you use the entire
30GB as one partition, then this will take ages to defragment. When you
are finished with a song, transfer the audio files to the non-scratch
partition, where disc I/O performance isn't so critical.

Messenger starts up at the windows load up but we can get rid of that in
no time at all..
Start Menu>Run
Type this in exactly as it is here:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
Hit Enter...you will see a DOS-like shell appear and disappear very
quickly and then it will ask you to restart.

Right-click on your desktop, and then click Properties.
Click on Themes tab
Set Themes to Windows Classic

Also do this for the Start Menu:
Right-click the Start button, and then click Properties.
Click Classic Start menu.
Click the Customize button to select items to display on the Start menu.
By default, selecting the Classic Start menu also adds the My Documents,
My Computer, My Network Places, and Internet Explorer icons to your
desktop.

----------------------------------------
Increase your IRQ priority - You can increase the IRQ priority of the
real-time CMOS clock to gain some system performance by doing the following:
1.) First create a text file with the extension .reg
2.) Paste the following into the file:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Priorit yControl]
"IRQ8Priority"=dword:00000001

3.) Double-click on the file to enter the tweak into your registry.

This can be un-installed should you need to by repeating the three steps
above with a new file, except this time use the following in your .reg file:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Priorit yControl]
"IRQ8Priority"=dword:00000000
----------------------------------------

Disable Power Management - Power management can be disabled by going
Start» Settings » Control Panel » Power Management. Set the Power Scheme
to "Always On" and set "System Standby", "Turn off hard disks" and "Turn
off monitor" to "Never".

Set graphic acceleration to full - You can do this by going to your
desktop, right clicking and clicking on "Properties" then on "Settings",
"Advanced" and the "Performance" tab. Make sure the Hardware
Acceleration slider is set to "full" to reduce the load on your CPU.

Disable background applications - Background applications start up when
your computer starts up and can use up unneccicary resources. To prevent
these from starting up go to Start » Run and type "msconfig" in the run
box. Click on the "startup tab" and disable (uncheck) programs such as
"taskmon", "load power profile", "real player", "office startup",
"winamp agent" and so on. Keep programs like "scan registry", "system
tray" and programs relating to interfacing with your audio card (such as
console software to control its features).

Disable USB - If you do not have any devices actively using USB in your
system (this includes dongles for your software), disable USB as it is
known to sometimes cause problems in certain DAW configurations. Not
only will this help to increase system performance, but it will also
free up an IRQ. Right click on your "My Computer" icon on your desktop
and select "Properties". Click on the "Device Manager" tab and scroll
down until you see the USB section. Click on the "Properties" for the
USB device and check off "Disable in this Hardware Profile". You will
have to reboot for these settings to take effect.

Graphical window settings - Go to Start » Settings » Folder options and
click on the "View" tab. Under "Visual settings" check off "Show window
contents while dragging. This is more of a usability tweak, as it will
allow you to see the contents of windows on the screen as you drag them
around (instead of them going blank).


Disable NTFS Last Access Time Logging (NTFS Only), Start > Run >
regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CURRENTCONTROLSET > CONTROL >
FILESYSTEM Add a new DWORD value - "NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate"
(without quotes) and set the value to 1. Then reboot to make changes
effective


Kim wrote:
> I've been a pretty happy camper on XP SP-2 with this board.
>
> I don't remember disabling anything, though I may have. I did go in and set
> up the interrupts. I may have turned off things like the printer port. I'm
> just having a look at F10 BIOS now and will report back in a moment (if the
> computer boots ;o).
>
> Not sure which DirectX I have... probably should know that... how do I
> check?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>
>>may
>>
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>
> the
>
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>
>>they've
>>
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>
>>>It's
>>>
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>
> maybe
>
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>
> apart
>
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>
> attempt
>
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70073 is a reply to message #70064] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
where do the hdds go?

Kim wrote:
> Good news. The F10 BIOS update seems to have the full IRQ control back on
> board again. I'm running that now, and the machine boots. Can't tell you
> much more.
>
> I've updated BIOS as well as IDE drivers on board here in the hope that it
> fixes my issue with losing HDD's. We'll see. I might be lucky...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>
>>may
>>
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>
> the
>
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>
>>they've
>>
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>
>>>It's
>>>
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>
> maybe
>
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>
> apart
>
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>
> attempt
>
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70074 is a reply to message #70068] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
Acronis drive image kicks the ghosts butt. :-)

Kim wrote:
> Pick away. Happy to be of help where I can. Good luck.
>
> And GHOST GHOST GHOST!!
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com.> wrote:
>
>>Cool!
>>Hope you don't mind if I need to pick your brains a bit over the next few
>>days if I need to.
>>I need to be up and running by wednesday.
>>Thanks again for your advice.
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Running DirextX 9.0c...
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks, Kim.
>>>>No Dual core.
>>>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about
>
> to
>
>>>>image.
>>>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>>>
>>>>may
>>>>
>>>>>be an issue for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
>>
>>BIOS
>>
>>>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>
> states
>
>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>
>>>>they've
>>>>
>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's
>>>>>
>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>
>>>maybe
>>>
>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>
>>>apart
>>>
>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>
>>(should
>>
>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>
>>upgrade
>>
>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>
>>which
>>
>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>>
>>>attempt
>>>
>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70075 is a reply to message #70073] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>where do the hdds go?

You have to go back into the BIOS and set them up again. Actually from memory
they lose the boot order and try and boot from the wrong one...


>
>Kim wrote:
>> Good news. The F10 BIOS update seems to have the full IRQ control back
on
>> board again. I'm running that now, and the machine boots. Can't tell you
>> much more.
>>
>> I've updated BIOS as well as IDE drivers on board here in the hope that
it
>> fixes my issue with losing HDD's. We'll see. I might be lucky...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks, Kim.
>>>No Dual core.
>>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about
to
>>>image.
>>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>>
>>>may
>>>
>>>>be an issue for you.
>>>>
>>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
BIOS
>>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>
>>>they've
>>>
>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>>
>>>>It's
>>>>
>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>
>> maybe
>>
>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>
>> apart
>>
>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>>>
>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>
>> attempt
>>
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70076 is a reply to message #70069] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
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Senior Member
Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with 5.

It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if you
use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.

It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.

Cheers,
Kim.



John <no@no.com> wrote:
>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>
>Kim wrote:
>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
they've
>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
It's
>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>
>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>
>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
and
>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>
>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70077 is a reply to message #70076] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hi, Kim.
If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
Kim W.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with 5.
>
>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
you
>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>
>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>the
>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>It's
>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>maybe
>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>and
>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>apart
>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70078 is a reply to message #70077] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Scrap my last post, I just re-read one of yours.
I'm gonna flash my board to f10, and see how the paris install pans out.
Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....
>
>Hi, Kim.
>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>Kim W.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
5.
>>
>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>you
>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>
>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>the
>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>maybe
>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>apart
>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70079 is a reply to message #70077] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, Kim.
>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>Kim W.

I am now, though I had a mixup for a minute there and was using F6. I did
an update and somehow accidentally copied the old BIOS on top of the new.
But I'm pretty sure now that BOTH BIOS's are F10, and I still have interrupt
control, and in my hour of using it I've been stable... not much of a test
of course...

Cheers,
Kim.

>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
5.
>>
>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>you
>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>
>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>the
>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>maybe
>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>apart
>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70080 is a reply to message #70078] Sat, 08 July 2006 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....

I would, but it's an eight hour drive... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.


>>
>>Hi, Kim.
>>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>>Kim W.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>5.
>>>
>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>>you
>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>
>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>states
>>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>the
>>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>they've
>>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
use.
>>>It's
>>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>maybe
>>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
running
>>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>and
>>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>apart
>>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>(should
>>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>attempt
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70081 is a reply to message #70080] Sat, 08 July 2006 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
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Senior Member
Are you in Melbourne??
I'm in lil' ol' Drabelaide!!
I'll be over in melbourne in a few weeks to visit friends that
had the foresight to leave here some years ago!!
I'd love to buy you a drink (or three) for the effort you've put
into this forum.
Now... If I could just work out how to flash the K9NS without having to install
a damn floppy drive!!!!

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....
>
>I would, but it's an eight hour drive... ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>>>
>>>Hi, Kim.
>>>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>>>Kim W.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>5.
>>>>
>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
if
>>>you
>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
never
>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
that's
>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>states
>>>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>>the
>>>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>they've
>>>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>use.
>>>>It's
>>>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>>maybe
>>>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>running
>>>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>and
>>>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>apart
>>>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>(should
>>>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>which
>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70082 is a reply to message #70081] Sat, 08 July 2006 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:

Download @BIOS here and you can do it in Windows. :o)

http://www.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/Utility_Model.a spx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1839&ProductNam e=GA-K8NS%20Ultra-939

I'd love to catch up if you're coming over. Shoot me an email at the address
above and I'll shoot you my mobile number.

Cheers,
Kim.

>
>Are you in Melbourne??
>I'm in lil' ol' Drabelaide!!
>I'll be over in melbourne in a few weeks to visit friends that
>had the foresight to leave here some years ago!!
>I'd love to buy you a drink (or three) for the effort you've put
>into this forum.
>Now... If I could just work out how to flash the K9NS without having to
install
>a damn floppy drive!!!!
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....
>>
>>I would, but it's an eight hour drive... ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi, Kim.
>>>>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>>>>Kim W.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>>5.
>>>>>
>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
which
>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
>if
>>>>you
>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
fine
>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
>never
>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>that's
>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>states
>>>>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
from
>>>>>the
>>>>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>they've
>>>>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
I
>>use.
>>>>>It's
>>>>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
It's
>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>running
>>>>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
forgets
>>>>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
firmware,
>>>>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>apart
>>>>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>(should
>>>>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>>>which
>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>an
>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70083 is a reply to message #70060] Sat, 08 July 2006 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU
sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.

Hmmmm......


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>
>
> Nope, this one... five slots:
>
>
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
ID=1839
>
> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
each
> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
seperate
> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>
> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >Is this the board?
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
868
> >
> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
mx800
> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
hell
> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
> >a better motherboard.
> >
> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>Cheers.
> >>
> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi, all.
> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
> >>>at some stage.
> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Kim #2.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70084 is a reply to message #70083] Sat, 08 July 2006 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
AMD patch...

....rrrrrrEALLY?!?

....sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU
>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>
>Hmmmm......
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>
>>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>ID=1839
>>
>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>each
>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
not
>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>seperate
>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>
>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Is this the board?
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>868
>> >
>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
not
>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>mx800
>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>hell
>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>> >a better motherboard.
>> >
>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>Cheers.
>> >>
>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>Hi, all.
>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>> >>>at some stage.
>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>Thanks,
>> >>>Kim #2.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70085 is a reply to message #70083] Sat, 08 July 2006 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
You talking about this one?

-------------------------------
AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some
PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass
the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter)
instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic
in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management
mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC)
is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting
video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications
may experience on dual-core or multiple processor systems.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30 _182_871_13118,00.html

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU
>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>
>Hmmmm......
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>
>>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>ID=1839
>>
>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>each
>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
not
>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>seperate
>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>
>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Is this the board?
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>868
>> >
>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
not
>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>mx800
>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>hell
>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>> >a better motherboard.
>> >
>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>Cheers.
>> >>
>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>Hi, all.
>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>> >>>at some stage.
>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>Thanks,
>> >>>Kim #2.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70086 is a reply to message #70084] Sat, 08 July 2006 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
The Butchery begins!!
I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
This is getting REALLY interesting.
I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>AMD patch...
>
>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>
>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
CPU
>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>
>>Hmmmm......
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>ID=1839
>>>
>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>>each
>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>not
>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>seperate
>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>
>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Is this the board?
>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>868
>>> >
>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
>not
>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>mx800
>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>>hell
>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
need
>>> >a better motherboard.
>>> >
>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>> >>Cheers.
>>> >>
>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>upgrade
>>> >>>at some stage.
>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>which
>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>attempt
>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>> >>>Thanks,
>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70088 is a reply to message #70086] Sat, 08 July 2006 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four massive
cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...

....NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)

Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?

....I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>The Butchery begins!!
>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>AMD patch...
>>
>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>
>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
>CPU
>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm......
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>ID=1839
>>>>
>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>>>each
>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>not
>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>seperate
>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>
>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Is this the board?
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>868
>>>> >
>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
to
>>not
>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>mx800
>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>>>hell
>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
>need
>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>> >
>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>>upgrade
>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>>which
>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>>>attempt
>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70089 is a reply to message #70086] Sat, 08 July 2006 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
And stuff an Emu 0404 sound card in there too for me. Then I'll start
the begging to buy the motherboard!!!

Kim W. wrote:
> The Butchery begins!!
> I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
> So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
> remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
> This is getting REALLY interesting.
> I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>AMD patch...
>>
>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>
>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
>
> CPU
>
>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm......
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>ID=1839
>>>
>>>>If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>>>
>>>each
>>>
>>>>slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>
>>not
>>
>>>>perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>
>>>seperate
>>>
>>>>as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>
>>>>...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is this the board?
>>>
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>868
>>>
>>>>>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
>>
>>not
>>
>>>>>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>
>>>mx800
>>>
>>>>>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>>>
>>>hell
>>>
>>>>>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
>
> need
>
>>>>>a better motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>>
>>>upgrade
>>>
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>>
>>>which
>>>
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>>
>>>attempt
>>>
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70090 is a reply to message #70085] Sat, 08 July 2006 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
Yep!

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afd228$1@linux...
>
>
> You talking about this one?
>
> -------------------------------
> AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve
some
> PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that
bypass
> the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp
Counter)
> instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic
> in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power
management
> mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter
(TSC)
> is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting
> video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these
applications
> may experience on dual-core or multiple processor systems.
>
>
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30 _182_871_13118,0
0.html
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
CPU
> >sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that
*might*
> >allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
> >
> >Hmmmm......
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44af8c47$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> Nope, this one... five slots:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Produc
t
> >ID=1839
> >>
> >> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
> >each
> >> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
> not
> >> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
> >seperate
> >> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
> >>
> >> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.
> >>
> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Is this the board?
>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=
1
> >868
> >> >
> >> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
> not
> >> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
> >mx800
> >> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
> >hell
> >> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
need
> >> >a better motherboard.
> >> >
> >> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >> >>Cheers.
> >> >>
> >> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Hi, all.
> >> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
> >upgrade
> >> >>>at some stage.
> >> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
> >> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
> >which
> >> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
> >attempt
> >> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
> >> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >> >>>Did it pan out for you??
> >> >>>Thanks,
> >> >>>Kim #2.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70091 is a reply to message #70088] Sat, 08 July 2006 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
It lives, It breathes.
Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
BTW. Check your e-mail.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four massive
>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>
>..

..NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>
>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>
>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>The Butchery begins!!
>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>AMD patch...
>>>
>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>
>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x
2
>>CPU
>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>
>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>
>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
for
>>>>each
>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>>not
>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>seperate
>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>868
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>to
>>>not
>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>>mx800
>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
IRQ
>>>>hell
>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
I
>>need
>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>>>>upgrade
>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>>>>which
>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>an
>>>>attempt
>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70092 is a reply to message #70091] Sat, 08 July 2006 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Ah, Pale Ale. My mate Trev texted me the other day claiming that Pale Ale
was "the best beer EVER!!", though I don't quite agree. I'd go a Little Creatures
myself, though Coopers is a very nice drop...

Glad you got them all in. Any room left in there for John's Emu card? ;o)
Not with two Quardo cards I guess...

Which slots did you use for what? Normally you'd use AGP and Slot 1 for graphics,
but given 1 shares with 5 and may not share with AGP perhaps it would be
better to have the EDS cards in 1 & 5 and the Quadro in another slot in between...?

Let us know how you go anyhow. I'm interested to know what she can take.
Might buy me another EDS card some day. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.



"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>It lives, It breathes.
>Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
>(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
>Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
>Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
>BTW. Check your e-mail.
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four
massive
>>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>>
>>..
>
>.NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>>
>>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>>
>>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The Butchery begins!!
>>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>AMD patch...
>>>>
>>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>>
>>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x
>2
>>>CPU
>>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
>for
>>>>>each
>>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>>>not
>>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>>seperate
>>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>>868
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>>to
>>>>not
>>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>>>mx800
>>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
>IRQ
>>>>>hell
>>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
>I
>>>need
>>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>to
>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>as
>>>>>which
>>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>>an
>>>>>attempt
>>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>C-16's.
>>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70093 is a reply to message #70092] Sat, 08 July 2006 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
No email yet... did you get the address right...?

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ah, Pale Ale. My mate Trev texted me the other day claiming that Pale Ale
>was "the best beer EVER!!", though I don't quite agree. I'd go a Little
Creatures
>myself, though Coopers is a very nice drop...
>
>Glad you got them all in. Any room left in there for John's Emu card? ;o)
>Not with two Quardo cards I guess...
>
>Which slots did you use for what? Normally you'd use AGP and Slot 1 for
graphics,
>but given 1 shares with 5 and may not share with AGP perhaps it would be
>better to have the EDS cards in 1 & 5 and the Quadro in another slot in
between...?
>
>Let us know how you go anyhow. I'm interested to know what she can take.
>Might buy me another EDS card some day. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>It lives, It breathes.
>>Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
>>(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
>>Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
>>Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
>>BTW. Check your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four
>massive
>>>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>>>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>>>
>>>..
>>
>>.NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>>>
>>>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>>>
>>>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Butchery begins!!
>>>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>AMD patch...
>>>>>
>>>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200
x
>>2
>>>>CPU
>>>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that
*might*
>>>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
>>for
>>>>>>each
>>>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control.
It's
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>>>seperate
>>>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>>>868
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>>>to
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an
Asus
>>>>>>mx800
>>>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
>>IRQ
>>>>>>hell
>>>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
>>I
>>>>need
>>>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>to
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>>as
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
in
>>>an
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>C-16's.
>>>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70097 is a reply to message #70076] Sat, 08 July 2006 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
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> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
that's
> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.

Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to this
in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI card
in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device is,
then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1 or 5
is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard about
switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards to
operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my EDS
cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
I'm pretty busy right now.

Deej




"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>
>
> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with 5.
>
> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
you
> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>
> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
that's
> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >
> >Kim wrote:
> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
> the
> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
> they've
> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
> It's
> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
> maybe
> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
> >>
> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
running
> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
forgets
> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
firmware,
> >> but that seems unlikely...)
> >>
> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
> and
> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
> apart
> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >>
> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.
> >>
> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>>Cheers.
> >>>
> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi, all.
> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
> >>>>at some stage.
> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>Kim #2.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70099 is a reply to message #70097] Sat, 08 July 2006 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
all appears to be working.
(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix, with
wires.
Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I attached
a screen grab)
but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
seemed fit.
I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>that's
>> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>
>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to this
>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI card
>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
is,
>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1 or
5
>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard about
>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
to
>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my EDS
>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
>I'm pretty busy right now.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
5.
>>
>> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>you
>> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>
>> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>that's
>> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>> >
>> >Kim wrote:
>> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>states
>> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>> the
>> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>> they've
>> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
use.
>> It's
>> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>> maybe
>> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>> >>
>> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>running
>> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>forgets
>> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>firmware,
>> >> but that seems unlikely...)
>> >>
>> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>> and
>> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>> apart
>> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>> >>
>> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Kim.
>> >>
>> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>>Cheers.
>> >>>
>> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi, all.
>> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>> >>>>at some stage.
>> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>C-16's.
>> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>>Thanks,
>> >>>>Kim #2.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
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Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70100 is a reply to message #70099] Sat, 08 July 2006 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
when that black resource screen shows what's on what?

It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
2,3,4,1/5,agp

I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.

John

Kim W. wrote:
> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> all appears to be working.
> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix, with
> wires.
> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I attached
> a screen grab)
> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
> seemed fit.
> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>
>>that's
>>
>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to this
>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI card
>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>
> is,
>
>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1 or
>
> 5
>
>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard about
>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>
> to
>
>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my EDS
>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>
>>>
>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>
> 5.
>
>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>>
>>you
>>
>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>
>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>
>>that's
>>
>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>
>>states
>>
>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>
>>>they've
>>>
>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>
> use.
>
>>>It's
>>>
>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>
>>>maybe
>>>
>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>
>>running
>>
>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>
>>forgets
>>
>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>
>>firmware,
>>
>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>
>>>apart
>>>
>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>
>>(should
>>
>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
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>>upgrade
>>
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
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>>which
>>
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
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>>attempt
>>
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
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>>C-16's.
>>
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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