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whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81394] Mon, 12 March 2007 01:44 Go to next message
Goran Stojiljkovic is currently offline  Goran Stojiljkovic   CROATIA
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when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117 bpm
,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the end of
file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my English

Splico
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81402 is a reply to message #81394] Mon, 12 March 2007 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48 or
44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of sync
are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync wise.
Rod

"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117
bpm
>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the end
of
>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my English
>
>Splico
>
>
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81404 is a reply to message #81394] Mon, 12 March 2007 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Goran Stojiljkovic is currently offline  Goran Stojiljkovic   CROATIA
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I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them to paris)to
mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate and
bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..


>
> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48 or
> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of sync
> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync
> wise.
> Rod
>
> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117
> bpm
>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the end
> of
>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my English
>>
>>Splico
>>
>>
>

"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
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> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117
> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the
> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my
> English
>
> Splico
>
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81408 is a reply to message #81404] Mon, 12 March 2007 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the cubase internal
click?
Does it start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the song progresses,
or does it start out of alignment. If so, how much, and does it remain consistantly
out?
Rod
"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them to paris)to
>mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate and
>bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
>Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..
>
>
>>
>> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48
or
>> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of sync
>> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
>> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync

>> wise.
>> Rod
>>
>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117
>> bpm
>>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the
end
>> of
>>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my English
>>>
>>>Splico
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>news:45f512ee@linux...
>> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117

>> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at
the
>> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my

>> English
>>
>> Splico
>>
>
>
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81409 is a reply to message #81408] Mon, 12 March 2007 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Goran Stojiljkovic is currently offline  Goran Stojiljkovic   CROATIA
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start perfectly sinc..follow some time..after some times they are
split.....at the end ,they are noticable split
yes..im recording to the cubase internal sync...
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45f57e1f$1@linux...


>
> That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the cubase
> internal
> click?
> Does it start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the song
> progresses,
> or does it start out of alignment. If so, how much, and does it remain
> consistantly
> out?
> Rod
> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them to
>>paris)to
>>mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate and
>>bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
>>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48
> or
>>> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of
>>> sync
>>> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
>>> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync
>
>>> wise.
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117
>>> bpm
>>>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the
> end
>>> of
>>>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my English
>>>>
>>>>Splico
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>>news:45f512ee@linux...
>>> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at 117
>
>>> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at
> the
>>> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my
>
>>> English
>>>
>>> Splico
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81410 is a reply to message #81409] Mon, 12 March 2007 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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It should line up for you, all the way through.
Is both paris and Cubase on the same computer, or different computers? Is
either or bothe slaved to an external wordclock?
I'm just asking to try to get a better idea of your situation, but it should
not matter. I get files from clients all the time from other platforms,
cubase included, and they always match up once I set the tempo in Paris to
whatever they tell me the tempo of the song is. Sometimes, depending on the
app, and how the rendered the files, I have to trim a few miliseconds off
the start, but once I do that, it stays perfectly in sync.
The only time I've run up against what your talking about is if I get a file
from some old free standing sequencer or drum machine. Generally something
that gets spit out of a D/A converter, if not synced up to the parent app,
will behave like this.

Question....are you bouncing/rendering (or whatever it's called) the files
internally in cubase, or bouncing them externally to some other medium, before
exporting to Paris?
Rod

"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>start perfectly sinc..follow some time..after some times they are
>split.....at the end ,they are noticable split
>yes..im recording to the cubase internal sync...
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:45f57e1f$1@linux...
>
>
>>
>> That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the cubase
>> internal
>> click?
>> Does it start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the song

>> progresses,
>> or does it start out of alignment. If so, how much, and does it remain

>> consistantly
>> out?
>> Rod
>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them to
>>>paris)to
>>>mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate and
>>>bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
>>>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>>>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48
>> or
>>>> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of

>>>> sync
>>>> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
>>>> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync
>>
>>>> wise.
>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at
117
>>>> bpm
>>>>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the
>> end
>>>> of
>>>>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my English
>>>>>
>>>>>Splico
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>>>news:45f512ee@linux...
>>>> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at
117
>>
>>>> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at
>> the
>>>> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for
my
>>
>>>> English
>>>>
>>>> Splico
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81417 is a reply to message #81410] Mon, 12 March 2007 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Goran Stojiljkovic is currently offline  Goran Stojiljkovic   CROATIA
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I try again....same thing...My Paris with 2mec and 3 eds cards is on one,and
sx with pulsar card is on another..I dont have need to sync them till
now...I record in Paris timpani and acc on click previs record from
sx(digital out from Pulsar to dig in of Paris) performace was far from
perfect and when I try to edit timpani I cant do because they are out of
sync...the click and grid aint matching...
but..I today try to load in Paris previus exported files from Sx and it was
ok ..they are matched ..I dont understand why..digial connection soud be the
same..._
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45f59452$1@linux...
>
> It should line up for you, all the way through.
> Is both paris and Cubase on the same computer, or different computers? Is
> either or bothe slaved to an external wordclock?
> I'm just asking to try to get a better idea of your situation, but it
> should
> not matter. I get files from clients all the time from other platforms,
> cubase included, and they always match up once I set the tempo in Paris to
> whatever they tell me the tempo of the song is. Sometimes, depending on
> the
> app, and how the rendered the files, I have to trim a few miliseconds off
> the start, but once I do that, it stays perfectly in sync.
> The only time I've run up against what your talking about is if I get a
> file
> from some old free standing sequencer or drum machine. Generally something
> that gets spit out of a D/A converter, if not synced up to the parent app,
> will behave like this.
>
> Question....are you bouncing/rendering (or whatever it's called) the files
> internally in cubase, or bouncing them externally to some other medium,
> before
> exporting to Paris?
> Rod
>
> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>start perfectly sinc..follow some time..after some times they are
>>split.....at the end ,they are noticable split
>>yes..im recording to the cubase internal sync...
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:45f57e1f$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the cubase
>>> internal
>>> click?
>>> Does it start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the song
>
>>> progresses,
>>> or does it start out of alignment. If so, how much, and does it remain
>
>>> consistantly
>>> out?
>>> Rod
>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them to
>>>>paris)to
>>>>mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate and
>>>>bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
>>>>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>>>>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48
>>> or
>>>>> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of
>
>>>>> sync
>>>>> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
>>>>> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync
>>>
>>>>> wise.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>>
>>>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at
> 117
>>>>> bpm
>>>>>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the
>>> end
>>>>> of
>>>>>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my
>>>>>>English
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Splico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>>>>news:45f512ee@linux...
>>>>> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at
> 117
>>>
>>>>> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at
>>> the
>>>>> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for
> my
>>>
>>>>> English
>>>>>
>>>>> Splico
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81421 is a reply to message #81417] Mon, 12 March 2007 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goran,
Did you double check and see that the tempos of SX and Paris
are still the same? Try resetting the tempo in Paris and answer
'yes' to the realign all grid lines question.

Good luck!
Tom

"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message =
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I try again....same thing...My Paris with 2mec and 3 eds cards is on =
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perfect and when I try to edit timpani I cant do because they are out =
of=20
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but..I today try to load in Paris previus exported files from Sx and =
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ok ..they are matched ..I dont understand why..digial connection soud =
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same..._
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message=20
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>
> It should line up for you, all the way through.
> Is both paris and Cubase on the same computer, or different =
computers? Is
> either or bothe slaved to an external wordclock?
> I'm just asking to try to get a better idea of your situation, but =
it=20
> should
> not matter. I get files from clients all the time from other =
platforms,
> cubase included, and they always match up once I set the tempo in =
Paris to
> whatever they tell me the tempo of the song is. Sometimes, depending =
on=20
> the
> app, and how the rendered the files, I have to trim a few =
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> the start, but once I do that, it stays perfectly in sync.
> The only time I've run up against what your talking about is if I =
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> file
> from some old free standing sequencer or drum machine. Generally =
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> that gets spit out of a D/A converter, if not synced up to the =
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>
> Question....are you bouncing/rendering (or whatever it's called) the =
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> internally in cubase, or bouncing them externally to some other =
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> before
> exporting to Paris?
> Rod
>
> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>start perfectly sinc..follow some time..after some times they are
>>split.....at the end ,they are noticable split
>>yes..im recording to the cubase internal sync...
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:45f57e1f$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the cubase
>>> internal
>>> click?
>>> Does it start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the =
song
>
>>> progresses,
>>> or does it start out of alignment. If so, how much, and does it =
remain
>
>>> consistantly
>>> out?
>>> Rod
>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them =
to
>>>>paris)to
>>>>mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate =
and
>>>>bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
>>>>----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
>>>>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>>>>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample =
rate? (48
>>> or
>>>>> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What =
kind of
>
>>>>> sync
>>>>> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
>>>>> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up =
sync
>>>
>>>>> wise.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>>
>>>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from =
sx at
> 117
>>>>> bpm
>>>>>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches =
at the
>>> end
>>>>> of
>>>>>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my =

>>>>>>English
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Splico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in =
message
>>>>news:45f512ee@linux...
>>>>> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from =
sx at
> 117
>>>
>>>>> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big =
missmatches at
>>> the
>>>>> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz =
for
> my
>>>
>>>>> English
>>>>>
>>>>> Splico
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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like=20
this.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Question....are you bouncing/rendering (or =
whatever it's=20
called) the files<BR>&gt; internally in cubase, or bouncing them =
externally to=20
some other medium, <BR>&gt; before<BR>&gt; exporting to Paris?<BR>&gt; =

Rod<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "Goran Stojiljkovic" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr">goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-co=
m.hr</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;start perfectly sinc..follow some time..after some =
times=20
they are<BR>&gt;&gt;split.....at the end ,they are noticable=20
split<BR>&gt;&gt;yes..im recording to the cubase internal=20
sync...<BR>&gt;&gt;"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in=20
=
message<BR>&gt;&gt;news:45f57e1f$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&g=
t;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the=20
cubase<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; internal<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; click?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
Does it=20
start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the=20
song<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; progresses,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; or does it =
start out=20
of alignment. If so, how much, and does it =
remain<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
consistantly<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; out?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Rod<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
"Goran=20
Stojiljkovic" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr">goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-co=
m.hr</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I mean...when im working in sx and render =
track (and=20
export them to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;paris)to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;mix in =
paris=20
these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate=20
and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc&nbsp;=20
sync<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;----- Original Message ----- =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;From:=20
"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Newsgroups:=20
IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 =
2:51=20
PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE=20
=
HELP..<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR=
>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate?=20
(48<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; or<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 44.1) Do you have =
Cubase set to=20
slave to external sync? What kind of<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
sync<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, =
adat 9=20
pin?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If you have everything right, both Paris =
and=20
Cubase willmatch up sync<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
wise.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Rod<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Goran =
Stojiljkovic"=20
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr">goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-co=
m.hr</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;when I set tempo in Paris at&nbsp; =
117 bpm=20
and recording click from sx at<BR>&gt; 117<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
bpm<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;,grid from Paris dont match =
click..there=20
are&nbsp; big&nbsp; missmatches at the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
end<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;file...whats =
wrong?=20
how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my=20
=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;English <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Splico<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "G=
oran=20
Stojiljkovic" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr">goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-co=
m.hr</A>&gt;=20
wrote in=20
=
message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;news:45f512ee@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
when=20
I set tempo in Paris at&nbsp; 117 bpm and recording click from sx =
at<BR>&gt;=20
117<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; bpm ,grid from Paris dont =
match=20
click..there are&nbsp; big&nbsp; missmatches at<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; end of file...whats wrong? how can I match =
these 2=20
things..sorrz for<BR>&gt; my<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
English<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
Splico<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR=
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Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP.. [message #81422 is a reply to message #81409] Mon, 12 March 2007 16:25 Go to previous message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Doesn't cubase default to 25 FPS on sync lock? Paris I believe does 30, bet
this is where it's going wrong if your syncing machines.
Also, make sure you're using the bars/beats grids as well of course and that
they are set to the same exact tempo.

AA

"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
news:45f58735@linux...
> start perfectly sinc..follow some time..after some times they are
> split.....at the end ,they are noticable split
> yes..im recording to the cubase internal sync...
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:45f57e1f$1@linux...
>
>
>>
>> That's wierd...it should match up. Are you recording to the cubase
>> internal
>> click?
>> Does it start being in alignment, and gets out of alignment as the song
>> progresses,
>> or does it start out of alignment. If so, how much, and does it remain
>> consistantly
>> out?
>> Rod
>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>I mean...when im working in sx and render track (and export them to
>>>paris)to
>>>mix in paris these files dont match paris grid at same sample rate and
>>>bitrate(44,1 and 24 bit)..i have mtc sync
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
>>>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>>>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>Subject: Re: whats wrong? PLEASE HELP..
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is Both your Cubase ANd Paris project set at the same sample rate? (48
>> or
>>>> 44.1) Do you have Cubase set to slave to external sync? What kind of
>>>> sync
>>>> are you using to sync the to apps? smpte, adat 9 pin?
>>>> If you have everything right, both Paris and Cubase willmatch up sync
>>
>>>> wise.
>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>>>>>when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at
>>>>>117
>>>> bpm
>>>>>,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at the
>> end
>>>> of
>>>>>file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my
>>>>>English
>>>>>
>>>>>Splico
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>>>news:45f512ee@linux...
>>>> when I set tempo in Paris at 117 bpm and recording click from sx at
>>>> 117
>>
>>>> bpm ,grid from Paris dont match click..there are big missmatches at
>> the
>>>> end of file...whats wrong? how can I match these 2 things..sorrz for my
>>
>>>> English
>>>>
>>>> Splico
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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