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Can ya help a brother out? [message #63394] Thu, 19 January 2006 09:54 Go to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
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1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and add
another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do is use
card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B. Otherwords,
put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.) Or
the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)

I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to in on
442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked on how
to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs and
the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.

How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.

Thanks,
Kent
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63395 is a reply to message #63394] Thu, 19 January 2006 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected between
the two EDS cards?


"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and add
> another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do is
use
> card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
Otherwords,
> put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.) Or
> the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>
> I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to in on
> 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked on how
> to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs
and
> the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>
> How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
> laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63397 is a reply to message #63395] Thu, 19 January 2006 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
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Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back and
forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to record to
card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out of
resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global insert.)

Kent

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected between
> the two EDS cards?
>
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and
add
> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do is
> use
> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> Otherwords,
> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.)
Or
> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >
> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to in
on
> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked on
how
> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs
> and
> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >
> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63398 is a reply to message #63395] Thu, 19 January 2006 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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errrr............you can also route digital connections between EDS cards,
but you can't cross patch in the Paris virtual patchbay...........yeah, this
sux, I know.


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected between
> the two EDS cards?
>
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and
add
> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do is
> use
> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> Otherwords,
> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.)
Or
> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >
> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to in
on
> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked on
how
> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs
> and
> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >
> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63402 is a reply to message #63397] Thu, 19 January 2006 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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Kent,

You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window during
mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch Card B
to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.

Tony

"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd8fc@linux...
> Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back and
> forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to record
> to
> card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out of
> resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global insert.)
>
> Kent
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
>> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
>> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected between
>> the two EDS cards?
>>
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
>> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and
> add
>> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do is
>> use
>> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
>> Otherwords,
>> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.)
> Or
>> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>> >
>> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to in
> on
>> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked on
> how
>> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs
>> and
>> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>> >
>> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
>> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kent
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63404 is a reply to message #63402] Thu, 19 January 2006 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
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That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my global
inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back in.
I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or 442.
Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.

Thanks Tony,

Kent
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:43cfe284@linux...
> Kent,
>
> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
during
> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch Card B
> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
>
> Tony
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd8fc@linux...
> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back and
> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to record
> > to
> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out of
> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global insert.)
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
between
> >> the two EDS cards?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life
and
> > add
> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do
is
> >> use
> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> >> Otherwords,
> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
outputs.)
> > Or
> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >> >
> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to
in
> > on
> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked
on
> > how
> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
inputs
> >> and
> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >> >
> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
don't
> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Kent
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63405 is a reply to message #63397] Thu, 19 January 2006 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pauln[2] is currently offline  pauln[2]
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Does the 442 interface show up in the patch bay? I'm not sure since I only
use one interface. However, if it does, shouldn't you be able to pull down
the 442 interface and patch to mixer B?


"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back and
>forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to record
to
>card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out of
>resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global insert.)
>
>Kent
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
>> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
>> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected between
>> the two EDS cards?
>>
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
>> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and
>add
>> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do
is
>> use
>> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
>> Otherwords,
>> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.)
>Or
>> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>> >
>> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to
in
>on
>> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked
on
>how
>> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs
>> and
>> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>> >
>> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
>> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kent
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63406 is a reply to message #63405] Thu, 19 January 2006 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
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The 442 shows up, but a mixer B is a no show. I only have mixer A. "I WANT
MY MIXER B! (I Want My MTV?)" Uh, sorry, is Miixer B supposed to show up?

Kent

"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43cfe6f3$1@linux...
>
> Does the 442 interface show up in the patch bay? I'm not sure since I only
> use one interface. However, if it does, shouldn't you be able to pull down
> the 442 interface and patch to mixer B?
>
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back and
> >forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to record
> to
> >card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out of
> >resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global insert.)
> >
> >Kent
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
between
> >> the two EDS cards?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life
and
> >add
> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do
> is
> >> use
> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> >> Otherwords,
> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
outputs.)
> >Or
> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >> >
> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to
> in
> >on
> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked
> on
> >how
> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
inputs
> >> and
> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >> >
> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
don't
> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Kent
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63407 is a reply to message #63404] Thu, 19 January 2006 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor from
that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and record to
that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS inserts.
I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all the
time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global inserts to
the submix with the most open resources.

Tony


"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
> That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my global
> inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back
> in.
> I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or
> 442.
> Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
>
> Thanks Tony,
>
> Kent
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:43cfe284@linux...
>> Kent,
>>
>> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
> during
>> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch Card
>> B
>> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
>> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd8fc@linux...
>> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back
>> > and
>> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
>> > record
>> > to
>> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out
>> > of
>> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
>> > insert.)
>> >
>> > Kent
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
>> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
>> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
> between
>> >> the two EDS cards?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
>> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life
> and
>> > add
>> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do
> is
>> >> use
>> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
>> >> Otherwords,
>> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
> outputs.)
>> > Or
>> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to
> in
>> > on
>> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked
> on
>> > how
>> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
> inputs
>> >> and
>> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
> don't
>> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Kent
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63410 is a reply to message #63407] Thu, 19 January 2006 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
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Little confused how to monitor from the 442. In the patchbay, if I set the
442 as A, I have no connections to either the 442 or the MEC (default saved
with MEC as A.) Can I make the monitor connections for the 442 and the
input connections for the MEC in the patch bay? If not, how do I make the
connections? Thanks.

Kent


"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:43cfeb8c@linux...
> Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
> software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor from
> that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and record to
> that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS
inserts.
> I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all the
> time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global inserts
to
> the submix with the most open resources.
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
> > That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
global
> > inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back
> > in.
> > I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or
> > 442.
> > Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
> >
> > Thanks Tony,
> >
> > Kent
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:43cfe284@linux...
> >> Kent,
> >>
> >> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
> > during
> >> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch
Card
> >> B
> >> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
> >> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd8fc@linux...
> >> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back
> >> > and
> >> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
> >> > record
> >> > to
> >> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out
> >> > of
> >> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
> >> > insert.)
> >> >
> >> > Kent
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> >> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
> >> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
> > between
> >> >> the two EDS cards?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> >> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life
> > and
> >> > add
> >> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to
do
> > is
> >> >> use
> >> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> >> >> Otherwords,
> >> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
> > outputs.)
> >> > Or
> >> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC
to
> > in
> >> > on
> >> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor
locked
> > on
> >> > how
> >> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
> > inputs
> >> >> and
> >> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
> > don't
> >> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris
intelligentsia.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Kent
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63412 is a reply to message #63404] Thu, 19 January 2006 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Also, if you want to use the 442 to have more inputs available during
record, just go ahead and record to submix A, then delete the tracks from
the playing field, then add them back in submix B from the audio tab.

Tony


"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
> That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my global
> inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back
> in.
> I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or
> 442.
> Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
>
> Thanks Tony,
>
> Kent
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:43cfe284@linux...
>> Kent,
>>
>> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
> during
>> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch Card
>> B
>> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
>> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd8fc@linux...
>> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back
>> > and
>> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
>> > record
>> > to
>> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out
>> > of
>> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
>> > insert.)
>> >
>> > Kent
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
>> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
>> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
> between
>> >> the two EDS cards?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
>> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life
> and
>> > add
>> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do
> is
>> >> use
>> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
>> >> Otherwords,
>> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
> outputs.)
>> > Or
>> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to
> in
>> > on
>> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked
> on
>> > how
>> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
> inputs
>> >> and
>> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
> don't
>> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Kent
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63413 is a reply to message #63410] Thu, 19 January 2006 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Kent,

You should be able to drag the 442 to the patch window in the patchbay. I'm
not in front of my PARIS rig, so I can't walk you through this right now.
Mostly cause my brain is too small to remember the steps! If no one else
helps you out, I'll try to get back to you tonight.

Tony

"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfee84@linux...
> Little confused how to monitor from the 442. In the patchbay, if I set
> the
> 442 as A, I have no connections to either the 442 or the MEC (default
> saved
> with MEC as A.) Can I make the monitor connections for the 442 and the
> input connections for the MEC in the patch bay? If not, how do I make the
> connections? Thanks.
>
> Kent
>
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:43cfeb8c@linux...
>> Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
>> software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor from
>> that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and record to
>> that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS
> inserts.
>> I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all the
>> time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global inserts
> to
>> the submix with the most open resources.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
>> > That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
> global
>> > inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back
>> > in.
>> > I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or
>> > 442.
>> > Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
>> >
>> > Thanks Tony,
>> >
>> > Kent
>> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>> > news:43cfe284@linux...
>> >> Kent,
>> >>
>> >> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
>> > during
>> >> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch
> Card
>> >> B
>> >> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
>> >> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
>> >>
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:43cfd8fc@linux...
>> >> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back
>> >> > and
>> >> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
>> >> > record
>> >> > to
>> >> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run
>> >> > out
>> >> > of
>> >> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
>> >> > insert.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Kent
>> >> >
>> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
>> >> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
>> >> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
>> > between
>> >> >> the two EDS cards?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
>> >> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my
>> >> >> > life
>> > and
>> >> > add
>> >> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to
> do
>> > is
>> >> >> use
>> >> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
>> >> >> Otherwords,
>> >> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
>> > outputs.)
>> >> > Or
>> >> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC
> to
>> > in
>> >> > on
>> >> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor
> locked
>> > on
>> >> > how
>> >> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
>> > inputs
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
>> > don't
>> >> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris
> intelligentsia.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > Kent
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63414 is a reply to message #63412] Thu, 19 January 2006 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
Messages: 51
Registered: December 2005
Member
I'll be back at the Paris rig in a few, so I'll try those. If it doesn't
work, I'll send you a message later. Thanks for the help.

Kent

"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:43cff0cf@linux...
> Also, if you want to use the 442 to have more inputs available during
> record, just go ahead and record to submix A, then delete the tracks from
> the playing field, then add them back in submix B from the audio tab.
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
> > That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
global
> > inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back
> > in.
> > I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or
> > 442.
> > Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
> >
> > Thanks Tony,
> >
> > Kent
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:43cfe284@linux...
> >> Kent,
> >>
> >> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
> > during
> >> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch
Card
> >> B
> >> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically, just
> >> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd8fc@linux...
> >> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap back
> >> > and
> >> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
> >> > record
> >> > to
> >> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run out
> >> > of
> >> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
> >> > insert.)
> >> >
> >> > Kent
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> >> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
> >> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
> > between
> >> >> the two EDS cards?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> >> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life
> > and
> >> > add
> >> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to
do
> > is
> >> >> use
> >> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> >> >> Otherwords,
> >> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
> > outputs.)
> >> > Or
> >> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC
to
> > in
> >> > on
> >> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor
locked
> > on
> >> > how
> >> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
> > inputs
> >> >> and
> >> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
> > don't
> >> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris
intelligentsia.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Kent
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63432 is a reply to message #63413] Thu, 19 January 2006 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
Messages: 51
Registered: December 2005
Member
I can drag the 442 to the patchbay, but I can't hook it up to anything.

Kent

"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:43cff0d0@linux...
> Kent,
>
> You should be able to drag the 442 to the patch window in the patchbay.
I'm
> not in front of my PARIS rig, so I can't walk you through this right now.
> Mostly cause my brain is too small to remember the steps! If no one else
> helps you out, I'll try to get back to you tonight.
>
> Tony
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfee84@linux...
> > Little confused how to monitor from the 442. In the patchbay, if I set
> > the
> > 442 as A, I have no connections to either the 442 or the MEC (default
> > saved
> > with MEC as A.) Can I make the monitor connections for the 442 and the
> > input connections for the MEC in the patch bay? If not, how do I make
the
> > connections? Thanks.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> >
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:43cfeb8c@linux...
> >> Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
> >> software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor
from
> >> that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and record
to
> >> that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS
> > inserts.
> >> I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all
the
> >> time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global
inserts
> > to
> >> the submix with the most open resources.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
> >> > That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
> > global
> >> > inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them
back
> >> > in.
> >> > I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC
or
> >> > 442.
> >> > Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Tony,
> >> >
> >> > Kent
> >> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:43cfe284@linux...
> >> >> Kent,
> >> >>
> >> >> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output
window
> >> > during
> >> >> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch
> > Card
> >> >> B
> >> >> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically,
just
> >> >> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tony
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:43cfd8fc@linux...
> >> >> > Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap
back
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
> >> >> > record
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run
> >> >> > out
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
> >> >> > insert.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kent
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> >> >> >> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing
analog
> >> >> >> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
> >> > between
> >> >> >> the two EDS cards?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> >> >> >> > 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my
> >> >> >> > life
> >> > and
> >> >> > add
> >> >> >> > another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want
to
> > do
> >> > is
> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> > card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> >> >> >> Otherwords,
> >> >> >> > put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
> >> > outputs.)
> >> >> > Or
> >> >> >> > the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from
MEC
> > to
> >> > in
> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor
> > locked
> >> > on
> >> >> > how
> >> >> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all
the
> >> > inputs
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record?
And
> >> > don't
> >> >> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris
> > intelligentsia.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > Kent
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63440 is a reply to message #63432] Thu, 19 January 2006 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Ok, I'm assuming you still have the 442 attached to card B on your computer.
Right? Go into the patchbay, grab mixer B and drag it to the patch area. Now
you can route the 442's inputs to whatever channels on Mixer-B you want.
Don't worry about the Mixer-B left and right outputs as they are
automatically routed to the card A masters.

Now, If I were you, I'd switch my MEC and 442 SCSI cables. That would put
the 442 on card A. Now Mixer-A in the patchbay will connect to the 442.
Route the Mixer-A outputs to whatever outputs you want on the 442. Route
the inputs from your MEC to Mixer-B. Now you can record using the MEC inputs
to whatever submix you have assigned to card B and also record from the 442
to the submix assigned to card A. So for example, in my case I have a MEC
with an eight input card and a 442. So from the Mec I can record 12 inputs,
plus from the 442 I can record 4 inputs (this isn't counting the spdif
in's). So now I have 16 tracks recorded, 12 on one submix, and 4 on another
for a total of 16. Now I go into the submix 1 editor window and remove the
four tracks from the playing field. Then go into submix 2 and drag those
same four tracks out of the Audio Bin to the playing field. So I've used all
the analog inputs to record 16 tracks simulataneously, then moved 4 so
they'd all be in one submix. Submix 2 which is assigned to card B. Now card
A which is assigned to submix 1 is open for global inserts. You can also use
submix 1 for any tracks you won't need EDS FX on and you won't take up any
DSP from card A.

I'm not great at explaining stuff, so I hope this helps at least a bit. The
best thing would be for you to read the patchbay section of the PARIS
manual. The concept is a little hard to understand until you mess around a
bit in there. If you're like me, a light bulb will pop on after a while and
everything will be clear. Let me know if you need more help and I'll give
you my phone number. If we were both sitting in front of PARIS, I could have
you running in two minutes.

Tony



On 1/19/06 6:38 PM, in article 43d03167@linux, "Kent"
<kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I can drag the 442 to the patchbay, but I can't hook it up to anything.
>
> Kent
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:43cff0d0@linux...
>> Kent,
>>
>> You should be able to drag the 442 to the patch window in the patchbay.
> I'm
>> not in front of my PARIS rig, so I can't walk you through this right now.
>> Mostly cause my brain is too small to remember the steps! If no one else
>> helps you out, I'll try to get back to you tonight.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfee84@linux...
>>> Little confused how to monitor from the 442. In the patchbay, if I set
>>> the
>>> 442 as A, I have no connections to either the 442 or the MEC (default
>>> saved
>>> with MEC as A.) Can I make the monitor connections for the 442 and the
>>> input connections for the MEC in the patch bay? If not, how do I make
> the
>>> connections? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Kent
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>> news:43cfeb8c@linux...
>>>> Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
>>>> software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor
> from
>>>> that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and record
> to
>>>> that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS
>>> inserts.
>>>> I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all
> the
>>>> time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global
> inserts
>>> to
>>>> the submix with the most open resources.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
>>>>> That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
>>> global
>>>>> inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them
> back
>>>>> in.
>>>>> I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC
> or
>>>>> 442.
>>>>> Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Tony,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kent
>>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43cfe284@linux...
>>>>>> Kent,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output
> window
>>>>> during
>>>>>> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch
>>> Card
>>>>>> B
>>>>>> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically,
> just
>>>>>> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:43cfd8fc@linux...
>>>>>>> Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap
> back
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
>>>>>>> insert.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing
> analog
>>>>>>>> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
>>>>> between
>>>>>>>> the two EDS cards?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
>>>>>>>>> 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my
>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>> another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want
> to
>>> do
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
>>>>>>>> Otherwords,
>>>>>>>>> put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
>>>>> outputs.)
>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>> the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from
> MEC
>>> to
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor
>>> locked
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all
> the
>>>>> inputs
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record?
> And
>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris
>>> intelligentsia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Kent
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Can ya help a brother out? [message #63455 is a reply to message #63440] Fri, 20 January 2006 08:27 Go to previous message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
Messages: 51
Registered: December 2005
Member
Great explanation, thanks. The lightbulbs are slowly coming on. I've got
everything hooked up in the patchbay, but now I'm trying to figure out how
to monitor. Could you email me your number (off the newsgroup if you want)
so I can drop you a quick line? Much appreciated.

Kent

Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:BFF5C5AF.45DA%tony@standinghampton.com...
> Ok, I'm assuming you still have the 442 attached to card B on your
computer.
> Right? Go into the patchbay, grab mixer B and drag it to the patch area.
Now
> you can route the 442's inputs to whatever channels on Mixer-B you want.
> Don't worry about the Mixer-B left and right outputs as they are
> automatically routed to the card A masters.
>
> Now, If I were you, I'd switch my MEC and 442 SCSI cables. That would put
> the 442 on card A. Now Mixer-A in the patchbay will connect to the 442.
> Route the Mixer-A outputs to whatever outputs you want on the 442. Route
> the inputs from your MEC to Mixer-B. Now you can record using the MEC
inputs
> to whatever submix you have assigned to card B and also record from the
442
> to the submix assigned to card A. So for example, in my case I have a MEC
> with an eight input card and a 442. So from the Mec I can record 12
inputs,
> plus from the 442 I can record 4 inputs (this isn't counting the spdif
> in's). So now I have 16 tracks recorded, 12 on one submix, and 4 on
another
> for a total of 16. Now I go into the submix 1 editor window and remove the
> four tracks from the playing field. Then go into submix 2 and drag those
> same four tracks out of the Audio Bin to the playing field. So I've used
all
> the analog inputs to record 16 tracks simulataneously, then moved 4 so
> they'd all be in one submix. Submix 2 which is assigned to card B. Now
card
> A which is assigned to submix 1 is open for global inserts. You can also
use
> submix 1 for any tracks you won't need EDS FX on and you won't take up any
> DSP from card A.
>
> I'm not great at explaining stuff, so I hope this helps at least a bit.
The
> best thing would be for you to read the patchbay section of the PARIS
> manual. The concept is a little hard to understand until you mess around a
> bit in there. If you're like me, a light bulb will pop on after a while
and
> everything will be clear. Let me know if you need more help and I'll give
> you my phone number. If we were both sitting in front of PARIS, I could
have
> you running in two minutes.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On 1/19/06 6:38 PM, in article 43d03167@linux, "Kent"
> <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I can drag the 442 to the patchbay, but I can't hook it up to anything.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:43cff0d0@linux...
> >> Kent,
> >>
> >> You should be able to drag the 442 to the patch window in the patchbay.
> > I'm
> >> not in front of my PARIS rig, so I can't walk you through this right
now.
> >> Mostly cause my brain is too small to remember the steps! If no one
else
> >> helps you out, I'll try to get back to you tonight.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfee84@linux...
> >>> Little confused how to monitor from the 442. In the patchbay, if I
set
> >>> the
> >>> 442 as A, I have no connections to either the 442 or the MEC (default
> >>> saved
> >>> with MEC as A.) Can I make the monitor connections for the 442 and
the
> >>> input connections for the MEC in the patch bay? If not, how do I make
> > the
> >>> connections? Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Kent
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:43cfeb8c@linux...
> >>>> Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
> >>>> software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor
> > from
> >>>> that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and
record
> > to
> >>>> that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS
> >>> inserts.
> >>>> I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all
> > the
> >>>> time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global
> > inserts
> >>> to
> >>>> the submix with the most open resources.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tony
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43cfe3aa@linux...
> >>>>> That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
> >>> global
> >>>>> inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them
> > back
> >>>>> in.
> >>>>> I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC
> > or
> >>>>> 442.
> >>>>> Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Tony,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kent
> >>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:43cfe284@linux...
> >>>>>> Kent,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output
> > window
> >>>>> during
> >>>>>> mixing. Just make Card A's submix a virtual mix temporarily. Switch
> >>> Card
> >>>>>> B
> >>>>>> to Card A. Then Switch Card A's virtual mix to Card B. Basically,
> > just
> >>>>>> assign your open submix to card A when you're ready to mix.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tony
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:43cfd8fc@linux...
> >>>>>>> Yeah. EDS cards are connected. With the two cards, I can swap
> > back
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> forth and use the MEC on both submixes. But I want to be able to
> >>>>>>> record
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> card B, keeping card A open for heavy global inserts (since I run
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> resources using a couple compressors and no limit on the global
> >>>>>>> insert.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kent
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:43cfd51b$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>> You cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing
> > analog
> >>>>>>>> connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected
> >>>>> between
> >>>>>>>> the two EDS cards?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> >>>>>>>>> 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my
> >>>>>>>>> life
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> add
> >>>>>>>>> another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want
> > to
> >>> do
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>> card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
> >>>>>>>> Otherwords,
> >>>>>>>>> put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and
> >>>>> outputs.)
> >>>>>>> Or
> >>>>>>>>> the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from
> > MEC
> >>> to
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor
> >>> locked
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>> to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all
> > the
> >>>>> inputs
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record?
> > And
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>> laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris
> >>> intelligentsia.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Kent
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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