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+1 on 16 I/O no matter what the combo.
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:35:26 -0600, EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net>
wrote:
>No, you can not cross card boundaries with I/O. This means you can only
>record a maximum of 16 channels per MEC / Card / Submix combo at one
>time... regardless of the number of EDS cards you have, or I/O cards you
>have in your MEC.
>
>David.
>
>David Feldman wrote:
>> Here's a question. If I swapped out my third 8-in and 8-out cards with ADAT
>> cards, would I be able to run 24-track recording off of one MEC, patching
>> the extra inputs to the mixer module of one of my extra EDS cards. Does
>> this make sense? I'm interested to know if this is a potential work-around
>> for my situation. Those MECs sure do take up a lot of space.
>> Thanks.
>> David
>>
>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>> FYI,
>>>
>>> I'm sitting with a six card system with MEcs on cards 1 and 2.
>>> Surprisingly no problems and multipl ADATs on the MECs. I am using a
>>> word clock even though it probably isn't necssary in this config.
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>> Just FYI.. be also aware that adding a 2nd MEC will be fine sans external
>>
>>>> clock, but a 3rd will require you buy a word clock. Also, the 2nd MEC
>> may
>>>> want to live on EDS 2 or EDS 3. It's *generally* the last one, in your
>> case
>>>> #3, but not always.
>>>> Make sure to use a quality word clock cable from the 1st MEC to the 2nd
>> MEC.
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4850b664$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I
>>
>>>>> guess
>>>>> I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
>>>>> and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my
>>
>>>>> situation
>>>>> (3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
>>>>> Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have
>> 9
>>>>>> slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>>>>>> channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>>>>>> 9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>>>>>> analog, or a mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only
>> see
>>>>>>> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>>>>>>> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
>>>>> 9 expansion
>>>>>
>>>>>>> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just
>> to
>>>>> use
>>>>>
>>>>>>> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>>
>>>>>>> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somebody help explain this to me.
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC,
>>
>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no
>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I
>>
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
>>>>> EDS
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cards
>>>>>>>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's
>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section
>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>>> In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>>>>>>> the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>>>>>>> new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More info will help.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>>>>>> news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>>>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>>>>>>>>> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
>>>>> card
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch
>> bay
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am
>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> missing here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> these things
>>>>>>>>>>>> into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davi
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show
>> up
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the modules=20
>>>>>>>>>>> section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> module show=20
>>>>>>>>>>> up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>>>>>>> in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
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>>>>>>>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in message=20
>>>>>>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>>>>>>> R>What=20
>>>>>>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info
>> to
>>>>> help
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with=20
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>>>>>>> direction for=20
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>>>>>>> put a new=20
>>>>>>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they
>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> don't show=20
>>>>>>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>>>>>>> wondering=20
>>>>>>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>>>>>>> in the=20
>>>>>>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>>
>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> into an=20
>>>>>>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> spam,
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and=20
>>>>>>>>>>> you?<BR><A=20
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>>>>>>>>>>> .html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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