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OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64991] Mon, 27 February 2006 03:43 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)=20
but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?

Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work=20
into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.

I haven't slept for a long time.

All clocked out,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for =
MIDI=20
only</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>do I need to worry about sample =
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don't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see drum tracks needing to "line up" on =
another=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pass.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE =
or=20
MTC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI =
card(I have a=20
Magma) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but I'm already </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>using 5 EDS and a UAD.&nbsp; Is there a benefit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in terms of lock time using MTC over=20
SMPTE?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase seems like it will be okay using =
the Motu=20
Midi Express XT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE =
for Cubase's=20
sake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this better than going through the =
hoops to make=20
SMPTE work </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>into Cubase instead?&nbsp; Is it best =
to go MTC=20
(paris)&nbsp;to MTC (Cubase)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and bypass the internal USB shenanigans =
the Motu=20
piece is capable</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of?&nbsp; This would mean another midi =
box=20
in&nbsp;the Cubase rig.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't slept for a long =
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All clocked out,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64992 is a reply to message #64991] Mon, 27 February 2006 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Tom, do you have an adat card in the pairs comp? If so, and your cubase soundcard
accepets adat 9 pin sync, use that. Sample accurate sync with no hassels
here, using a RME 9642 card. Running xp on the Paris and cubase comps.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)=20
>but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>
>Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work=20
>into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>
>I haven't slept for a long time.
>
>All clocked out,
>Tom
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>do I need to worry about sample =
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>don't</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see drum tracks needing to "line up" on
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>another=20
></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pass.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE =
>or=20
>MTC.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI =
>card(I have a=20
>Magma) </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but I'm already </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
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=
>the Motu=20
>Midi Express XT.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE =
>for Cubase's=20
>sake.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this better than going through the =
>hoops to make=20
>SMPTE work </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>into Cubase instead?  Is it best =
>to go MTC=20
>(paris) to MTC (Cubase)</FONT></DIV>
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>piece is capable</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of?  This would mean another midi =
>box=20
>in the Cubase rig.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't slept for a long =
>time.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>
>
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64994 is a reply to message #64991] Mon, 27 February 2006 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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Registered: June 2005
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Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be
rock solid.

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
> do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
> see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
> but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
> in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>
> Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
> That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
> Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
> into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
> and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
> of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>
> I haven't slept for a long time.
>
> All clocked out,
> Tom
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64995 is a reply to message #64994] Mon, 27 February 2006 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Rod,
So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
time comes. Sounds like the best lock.

David,
I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20

That may have been a dream.
Tom



"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
news:440333cd$1@linux...
Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE =

files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
rock solid.

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
> do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
> see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
> but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
> in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
> =20
> Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
> That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
> Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
> into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
> and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
> of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
> =20
> I haven't slept for a long time.
> =20
> All clocked out,
> Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either? &nbsp;Once the RME =
card is=20
installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I =
wasn't sure=20
that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP.&nbsp; I'll be =
ready for=20
that when the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes.&nbsp; Sounds like the best=20
lock.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with =
my Amiga so=20
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
projects.&nbsp; I=20
haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in =
their manual=20
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up?&nbsp; I =
heard=20
something about a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase????&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
dream.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"EK Sound" &lt;<A =
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wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
ly=20
speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files =
and feed=20
LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow.&nbsp; It will be <BR>rock=20
solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>&gt; If I'm using =
Cubase 90%=20
of the time for MIDI only<BR>&gt; do I need to worry about sample=20
accuracy?&nbsp; I don't<BR>&gt; see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
on=20
another pass.<BR>&gt; I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
MTC.<BR>&gt;=20
MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>&gt; but =
I'm=20
already using 5 EDS and a UAD.&nbsp; Is there a benefit<BR>&gt; in =
terms of=20
lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Cubase seems =
like it=20
will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>&gt; That seems to =
generate=20
MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>&gt; Is this better than going =
through=20
the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>&gt; into Cubase instead?&nbsp; Is it =
best to=20
go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>&gt; and bypass the internal USB =
shenanigans=20
the Motu piece is capable<BR>&gt; of?&nbsp; This would mean another =
midi box=20
in the Cubase rig.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; I haven't slept for a long=20
time.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; All clocked out,<BR>&gt;=20
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Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64996 is a reply to message #64995] Mon, 27 February 2006 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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The Express will convert the incoming SMPTE to MTC that Cubase will
lock to. Simply tell Cubase which MIDI port the timecode is coming in on.

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
> have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
> worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
> time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>
> David,
> I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
> SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
> how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
> Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
> SMPTE plugin for Cubase????
>
> That may have been a dream.
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:440333cd$1@linux...
> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be
> rock solid.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
> >
> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
> >
> > I haven't slept for a long time.
> >
> > All clocked out,
> > Tom
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64998 is a reply to message #64995] Mon, 27 February 2006 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't hooking
it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, but when I
had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to MTC
that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rod,
>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>
>David,
>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20
>
>That may have been a dream.
>Tom
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
>news:440333cd$1@linux...
> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
=
>
> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
> rock solid.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
> > =20
> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
> > =20
> > I haven't slept for a long time.
> > =20
> > All clocked out,
> > Tom
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either?  Once the RME =
>card is=20
>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I =
>wasn't sure=20
>that</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP.  I'll be =
>ready for=20
>that when the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes.  Sounds like the best=20
>lock.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with
=
>my Amiga so=20
>the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
>projects.  I=20
>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in =
>their manual=20
>though.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up?  I =
>heard=20
>something about a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase????  =
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
>dream.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
>ly=20
> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files
=
>and feed=20
> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow.  It will be <BR>rock=20
> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
>Cubase 90%=20
> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about sample=20
> accuracy?  I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
>on=20
> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
>MTC.<BR>>=20
> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> but =
>I'm=20
> already using 5 EDS and a UAD.  Is there a benefit<BR>> in =
>terms of=20
> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>>  <BR>> Cubase seems =
>like it=20
> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
>generate=20
> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than going =
>through=20
> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead?  Is it =
>best to=20
> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>> and bypass the internal USB =
>shenanigans=20
> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of?  This would mean another =
>midi box=20
> in the Cubase rig.<BR>>  <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=20
> time.<BR>>  <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=20
>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #64999 is a reply to message #64996] Mon, 27 February 2006 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
ooops, should've read your post first. You already answered
rod
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>The Express will convert the incoming SMPTE to MTC that Cubase will
>lock to. Simply tell Cubase which MIDI port the timecode is coming in on.
>
>David.
>
>Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Rod,
>> So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>> have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>> worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>> time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>
>> David,
>> I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>> SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>> how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>> Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>> SMPTE plugin for Cubase????
>>
>> That may have been a dream.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
>> message news:440333cd$1@linux...
>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be
>> rock solid.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>> >
>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>> >
>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>> >
>> > All clocked out,
>> > Tom
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #65004 is a reply to message #64998] Mon, 27 February 2006 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware routines. The
only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface 16 bit
machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power down/reboot
situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a coupla my
friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP thing at
all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was something
that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty shaky to
begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync from the
adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to extract/sync.
Thanks, dude!

AA


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:440359b0$1@linux...
>
> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't hooking
> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, but when I
> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to MTC
> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Rod,
>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>
>>David,
>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20
>>
>>That may have been a dream.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
> =
>>
>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
>> rock solid.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>> > =20
>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>> > =20
>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>> > =20
>> > All clocked out,
>> > Tom
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either? Once the RME =
>>card is=20
>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I =
>>wasn't sure=20
>>that</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be =
>>ready for=20
>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes. Sounds like the best=20
>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with
> =
>>my Amiga so=20
>>the</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
>>projects. I=20
>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in =
>>their manual=20
>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up? I =
>>heard=20
>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
>></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
>>href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
>>ly=20
>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files
> =
>>and feed=20
>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be <BR>rock=20
>> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
>>Cubase 90%=20
>> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about sample=20
>> accuracy? I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
>>on=20
>> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
>>MTC.<BR>>=20
>> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> but =
>>I'm=20
>> already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in =
>>terms of=20
>> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems =
>>like it=20
>> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
>>generate=20
>> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than going =
>>through=20
>> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead? Is it =
>>best to=20
>> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>> and bypass the internal USB =
>>shenanigans=20
>> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of? This would mean another =
>>midi box=20
>> in the Cubase rig.<BR>> <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=20
>> time.<BR>> <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=20
>>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #65005 is a reply to message #65004] Mon, 27 February 2006 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's questionable?

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware routines.
The
>only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface 16 bit

>machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
>correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power down/reboot

>situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a coupla my

>friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP thing at

>all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was something

>that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty shaky to

>begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync from
the
>adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to extract/sync.
>Thanks, dude!
>
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:440359b0$1@linux...
>>
>> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't hooking
>> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, but when
I
>> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to
MTC
>> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Rod,
>>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>>
>>>David,
>>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20
>>>
>>>That may have been a dream.
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
>> =
>>>
>>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
>>> rock solid.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>>> > =20
>>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
>>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>>> > =20
>>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>>> > =20
>>> > All clocked out,
>>> > Tom
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either? Once the RME =
>>>card is=20
>>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I =
>>>wasn't sure=20
>>>that</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be =
>>>ready for=20
>>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes. Sounds like the best=20
>>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with
>> =
>>>my Amiga so=20
>>>the</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
>>>projects. I=20
>>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in
=
>>>their manual=20
>>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up? I =
>>>heard=20
>>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
>>></FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
>>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
>>>href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
>>>ly=20
>>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files
>> =
>>>and feed=20
>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be <BR>rock=20
>>> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
>>>Cubase 90%=20
>>> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about sample=20
>>> accuracy? I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
>>>on=20
>>> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
>>>MTC.<BR>>=20
>>> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> but =
>>>I'm=20
>>> already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in =
>>>terms of=20
>>> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems =
>>>like it=20
>>> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
>>>generate=20
>>> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than going =
>>>through=20
>>> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead? Is it =
>>>best to=20
>>> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>> and bypass the internal USB =
>>>shenanigans=20
>>> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of? This would mean another =
>>>midi box=20
>>> in the Cubase rig.<BR>> <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=20
>>> time.<BR>> <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=20
>>>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #65006 is a reply to message #65005] Mon, 27 February 2006 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
The hardware and/or the hardware controllers for the adat card.
AA


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4403989e$1@linux...
>
> Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's questionable?
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware routines.
> The
>>only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface 16 bit
>
>>machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
>>correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power down/reboot
>
>>situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a coupla my
>
>>friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP thing at
>
>>all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was something
>
>>that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty shaky to
>
>>begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync from
> the
>>adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to extract/sync.
>>Thanks, dude!
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:440359b0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't
>>> hooking
>>> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
>>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, but when
> I
>>> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to
> MTC
>>> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rod,
>>>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>>>
>>>>David,
>>>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20
>>>>
>>>>That may have been a dream.
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>>>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
>>> =
>>>>
>>>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
>>>> rock solid.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>>>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>>>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>>>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>>>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>>>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>>>> > =20
>>>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>>>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>>>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
>>>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>>>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>>>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>>>> > =20
>>>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>>>> > =20
>>>> > All clocked out,
>>>> > Tom
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either? Once the RME =
>>>>card is=20
>>>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I =
>>>>wasn't sure=20
>>>>that</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be =
>>>>ready for=20
>>>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes. Sounds like the best=20
>>>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with
>>> =
>>>>my Amiga so=20
>>>>the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
>>>>projects. I=20
>>>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in
> =
>>>>their manual=20
>>>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up? I =
>>>>heard=20
>>>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
>>>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
>>>>ly=20
>>>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files
>>> =
>>>>and feed=20
>>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be <BR>rock=20
>>>> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
>>>>Cubase 90%=20
>>>> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about sample=20
>>>> accuracy? I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
>>>>on=20
>>>> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
>>>>MTC.<BR>>=20
>>>> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> but =
>>>>I'm=20
>>>> already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in =
>>>>terms of=20
>>>> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems =
>>>>like it=20
>>>> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
>>>>generate=20
>>>> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than going =
>>>>through=20
>>>> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead? Is it =
>>>>best to=20
>>>> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>> and bypass the internal USB =
>>>>shenanigans=20
>>>> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of? This would mean another =
>>>>midi box=20
>>>> in the Cubase rig.<BR>> <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=20
>>>> time.<BR>> <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=20
>>>>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #65008 is a reply to message #65006] Mon, 27 February 2006 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
gotcha
r
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The hardware and/or the hardware controllers for the adat card.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4403989e$1@linux...
>>
>> Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's questionable?
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware routines.
>> The
>>>only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface 16
bit
>>
>>>machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
>>>correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power down/reboot
>>
>>>situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a coupla
my
>>
>>>friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP thing
at
>>
>>>all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was something
>>
>>>that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty shaky
to
>>
>>>begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync from
>> the
>>>adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to extract/sync.
>>>Thanks, dude!
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:440359b0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't
>>>> hooking
>>>> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
>>>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, but when
>> I
>>>> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to
>> MTC
>>>> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rod,
>>>>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>>>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>>>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>>>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>>>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>>>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20
>>>>>
>>>>>That may have been a dream.
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>>>>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
>>>>> rock solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>>>>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>>>>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>>>>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>>>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>>>>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>>>>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>>>>> > =20
>>>>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>>>>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>>>>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
>>>>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>>>>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>>>>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>>>>> > =20
>>>>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>>>>> > =20
>>>>> > All clocked out,
>>>>> > Tom
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either? Once the RME =
>>>>>card is=20
>>>>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I
=
>>>>>wasn't sure=20
>>>>>that</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be =
>>>>>ready for=20
>>>>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes. Sounds like the best=20
>>>>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with
>>>> =
>>>>>my Amiga so=20
>>>>>the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
>>>>>projects. I=20
>>>>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in
>> =
>>>>>their manual=20
>>>>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up? I =
>>>>>heard=20
>>>>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
>>>>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
>>>>>ly=20
>>>>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files
>>>> =
>>>>>and feed=20
>>>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be <BR>rock=20
>>>>> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
>>>>>Cubase 90%=20
>>>>> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about sample=20
>>>>> accuracy? I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
>>>>>on=20
>>>>> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
>>>>>MTC.<BR>>=20
>>>>> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> but =
>>>>>I'm=20
>>>>> already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in =
>>>>>terms of=20
>>>>> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems =
>>>>>like it=20
>>>>> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
>>>>>generate=20
>>>>> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than going =
>>>>>through=20
>>>>> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead? Is it =
>>>>>best to=20
>>>>> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>> and bypass the internal USB =
>>>>>shenanigans=20
>>>>> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of? This would mean another =
>>>>>midi box=20
>>>>> in the Cubase rig.<BR>> <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=20
>>>>> time.<BR>> <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=20
>>>>>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: OT Time code from Paris to Cubase - The final quest [message #65009 is a reply to message #65008] Mon, 27 February 2006 18:51 Go to previous message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
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Rod,
All is good here using SMPTE from Paris to Motu Midi Express XT
for Cubase MTC. Almost instant lock up. Amiga was about as good...
I'm gonna miss the old girl.

The TX7 freeware editor isn't so hot and likes to rock the Motu's boat.
I might be investing in FM7 for stability's sake. $279 ouch.

Thanks for all the help. Cubase is working while minimized too. =20
Thanks Neil.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4403a7b7$1@linux...

gotcha
r
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The hardware and/or the hardware controllers for the adat card.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message=20
>news:4403989e$1@linux...
>>
>> Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's questionable?
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware =
routines.
>> The
>>>only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface =
16
bit
>>
>>>machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
>>>correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power =
down/reboot
>>
>>>situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a =
coupla
my
>>
>>>friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP =
thing
at
>>
>>>all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was =
something
>>
>>>that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty =
shaky
to
>>
>>>begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync =
from
>> the
>>>adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to =
extract/sync.
>>>Thanks, dude!
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:440359b0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't =

>>>> hooking
>>>> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
>>>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, =
but when
>> I
>>>> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then =
converted to
>> MTC
>>>> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rod,
>>>>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>>>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>>>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>>>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>>>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>>>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =3D20
>>>>>
>>>>>That may have been a dream.
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>>>>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time =
locked SMPTE
>>>> =3D
>>>>>
>>>>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It =
will be=3D20
>>>>> rock solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>>>>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>>>>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>>>>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>>>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>>>>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>>>>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>>>>> > =3D20
>>>>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express =
XT.
>>>>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>>>>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE =
work
>>>>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC =
(Cubase)
>>>>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is =
capable
>>>>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>>>>> > =3D20
>>>>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>>>>> > =3D20
>>>>> > All clocked out,
>>>>> > Tom
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>So I can do either? Once the =
RME =3D
>>>>>card is=3D20
>>>>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have the option of ADAT sync =
but I
=3D
>>>>>wasn't sure=3D20
>>>>>that</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>worked from Paris in XP. =
I'll be =3D
>>>>>ready for=3D20
>>>>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time comes. Sounds like the =
best=3D20
>>>>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have been using SMPTE all =
along with
>>>> =3D
>>>>>my Amiga so=3D20
>>>>>the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my =
default =3D
>>>>>projects. I=3D20
>>>>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>how to implement that into =
Cubase in
>> =3D
>>>>>their manual=3D20
>>>>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any tips on setting that up? =
I =3D
>>>>>heard=3D20
>>>>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
=3D
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>That may have been a =3D
>>>>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =3D
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=3D20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>>> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>P=
ersonal=3D
>>>>>ly=3D20
>>>>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE =
<BR>files
>>>> =3D
>>>>>and feed=3D20
>>>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be =
<BR>rock=3D20
>>>>> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
=3D
>>>>>Cubase 90%=3D20
>>>>> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about =
sample=3D20
>>>>> accuracy? I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =3D
>>>>>on=3D20
>>>>> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =3D
>>>>>MTC.<BR>>=3D20
>>>>> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> =
but =3D
>>>>>I'm=3D20
>>>>> already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in =3D
>>>>>terms of=3D20
>>>>> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems =3D
>>>>>like it=3D20
>>>>> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
=3D
>>>>>generate=3D20
>>>>> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than =
going =3D
>>>>>through=3D20
>>>>> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead? Is it =
=3D
>>>>>best to=3D20
>>>>> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>> and bypass the internal USB =
=3D
>>>>>shenanigans=3D20
>>>>> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of? This would mean another =3D
>>>>>midi box=3D20
>>>>> in the Cubase rig.<BR>> <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=3D20
>>>>> time.<BR>> <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=3D20
>>>>>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>=20
>
>

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All is good here using SMPTE from Paris =
to Motu=20
Midi Express XT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for Cubase MTC.&nbsp; Almost instant =
lock up.&nbsp;=20
Amiga was about as good...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm gonna miss the old =
girl.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The TX7 freeware editor isn't so hot =
and likes to=20
rock the Motu's boat.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I might be investing in FM7 for =
stability's=20
sake.&nbsp; $279 ouch.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all the help.&nbsp; Cubase =
is working=20
while minimized too.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Neil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4403a7b7$1@linux">news:4403a7b7$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>gotc=
ha<BR>r<BR>"Aaron=20
Allen" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;The hardware and/or the hardware controllers for the =
adat=20
card.<BR>&gt;AA<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
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Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's=20
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href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;My guess would be er, ... questionable.. =
hardware or=20
hardware routines.<BR>&gt;&gt; The<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;only quasi-reliable =
Adat=20
machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface=20
16<BR>bit<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;machines.&nbsp; Blackface and XT =
never=20
seemed to lock up right (or, more<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;correctly - they =
'locked up'=20
alright, causing lots of power=20
down/reboot<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;situations), and the LT was a =
nightmare=20
at Tisway. Ditto with a =
coupla<BR>my<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;friends=20
machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP=20
thing<BR>at<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;all, rather a Paris issue. =
Losing the=20
ability to sync at all was something<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;that =
XP beta=20
drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty=20
shaky<BR>to<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;begin with IMO. It is good to =
know=20
though that you are seeing sync from<BR>&gt;&gt; =
the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;adat card=20
9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to=20
extract/sync.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Thanks,=20
=
dude!<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;AA <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<B=
R>&gt;&gt;&gt;"Rod=20
Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in=20
=
message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;news:440359b0$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hooking<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it up to an ACTUAL =
ADAT. Go=20
figure.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that =
since I=20
got the RME, but when<BR>&gt;&gt; I<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; had the =
Dakota, the=20
setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
MTC<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; that cubase could read)you might check that =
out=20
also.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Rod<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
=
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;Rod,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;So=20
I can do either?&nbsp; Once the RME card is installed=20
I'll<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't =
sure=20
that<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;worked from Paris in XP.&nbsp; I'll be =
ready for=20
that when the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;time comes.&nbsp; Sounds like the =
best=20
=
lock.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;David, <BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;I=20
have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so=20
the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
projects.&nbsp; I=20
haven't seen<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;how to implement that into Cubase =
in their=20
manual though.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Any tips on setting that =
up?&nbsp; I=20
heard something about a<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;SMPTE plugin for =
Cubase????=20
=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;That may have =
been a=20
=
dream.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
"EK Sound" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message=20
=
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;news:440333cd$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&nbsp;=20
Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked=20
SMPTE<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; files and =
feed LTC to=20
the Express for Cubase to follow.&nbsp; It will=20
be=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; rock=20
solid.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
David.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; Tom Bruhl =

wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; If I'm using Cubase 90% of =
the time=20
for MIDI only<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; do I need to worry =
about=20
sample accuracy?&nbsp; I don't<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; see =
drum=20
tracks needing to "line up" on another =
pass.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt; I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or=20
MTC.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; MTC means another IRQ for the =
MIDI=20
card(I have a Magma)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; but I'm =
already using=20
5 EDS and a UAD.&nbsp; Is there a =
benefit<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
in terms of lock time using MTC over =
SMPTE?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Cubase seems like it will be =
okay using=20
the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; That =
seems to=20
generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's =
sake.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE=20
work<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; into Cubase instead?&nbsp; Is =
it best=20
to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; =
and=20
bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is=20
capable<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; of?&nbsp; This would mean =
another=20
midi box in the Cubase rig.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; I haven't slept for a long=20
time.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt; =
=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt; All clocked out,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
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