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OK......so I'm wondering about AMD 64 vs Opteron and x2 CPU's with wierd names [message #58667] Sat, 01 October 2005 18:18 Go to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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about 6 OS's
> from a boot menu.
>
> One of the integral tricks is that the boot manager needs to reallocate the
> drive letters so that the booted drive becomes C drive, to allow me to easily
> Ghost systems on and off drives, and between partitions. Ghosted partitions
> don't work real well if you load them as C drive, and then ghost them to
> D drive and expect them to work. If it was loaded as C it has to stay C.
>
> I've tried a whole bunch of different options, including the apparently popular
> OSLoader 2000 or whatever it's called. It wont even load my partitions. Comes
> up with an error saying "Invalid Image" or something. I'm wondering if it
> doesn't like NTFS.
>
> The best I've found is GAG, which is free, and would do the job except for
> the fact that I've got some partitions on one drive and some on another,
> and when I use GAG to boot to the second drive it doesn't seem happy to reallocate
> C the title of C Drive to the booted partition, hence they don't run properly.
> I'm seriously considering doing a lot of partition shuffling and loading
> all the stuff I want to boot on to the first hdd, as apparently GAG will
> be happy to boot logical drives etc. GAG is really good though in other respects.
> Graphical interface, password options, single button OS selection, and i
Re: OK......so I'm wondering about AMD 64 vs Opteron and x2 CPU'swith wierd names [message #58672 is a reply to message #58667] Sun, 02 October 2005 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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rive and the 800
>>> for storage...cool huh.
>>>
>>> at present i'm on 10.3.9 which is now functioning the best since my
>>> purchase. since my rig was more of a G5 than a G4 all those little
>>> changes to take advantage of the 5s architecture performance and
>>> stability have improved. i can sill run more tracks (on SX), plugins,
>>> and vst instruments on my 3+ yr. old 2.6 P4 pc than i can on the mac
>>> but the gap is closing.
>>>
>>> "The statement that they (Apple) can't warranty it working with third
>>> party products is unreasonable, you have a reasonable expectation of
>>> it working when you bought it" true or not it's apples position that
>>> problems are yours and not theirs. after all, you own a mac which is
>>> like being a part of the second coming so it must be your fault.
>>>
>>> all of this comes too little too late for me. it's sad, it took me 10
>>> months of 16 hour days and a couple buckets of money to build my
>>> studio. add another 6 years of 16 hour days building the business to
>>> where i was making pretty good money. then came the mac and after 2
>>> plus more years of trying to keep my dream alive i threw in the towel.
>>> my wife and i plan on moving to oregon in about 3 years and i don't
>>> wish to take 2 of those years to try to rebuild a client base and
>>> reputation only to leave it when we move. so there you have it, i'm
>>> just plain out of grease.
>>>
>>> rick, sans his inner child ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Sep 2005 13:45:36 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Rick, it actually could be the RAM. Some systems act funny with
>>different
>>> >brands of RAM. I assume it shows up in the hardware profile? Have
you
>>tried
>>> >other brands? How does it run with out the added memory? Have you tried
>>> >different drives internally? What version of OSX are you running?
>>> >
>>> >The statement that they (Apple) can't warranty it working with third
>>party
>>> >products is unreasonable, you have a reasonable expectation of it working
>>> >when you bought it. Apple can not guaranty that their product will
or
>>won't
>>> >work with third party products, that is a given. I would ignore that
>>statement,
>>> >and do as I suggested, take it in, if that doesn't work hire an attorney
>>> >to write a letter. Start with the BBB, it's free. Also bad press is
not
>>> >good, people have set up negative web sites and Apple ands up fixing
the
>>> >problem. iPod nano screen, etc.
>>> >
>>> >By the way Apple was number one for years in customer service and
>>satisfaction.
>>> > I believe they were rated number one again last year for the first
time
>>> >in years. I think reputation is important to them, so don't give up.
>>Remember,
>>> >The squeaky wheel gets
Re: OK......so I'm wondering about AMD 64 vs Opteron and x2 CPU's with wierd names [message #58678 is a reply to message #58672] Sun, 02 October 2005 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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s-en/desktop/" target="_blank">http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Mr. Simplicity is getting antsy for more horses for the Cubase
machine.
> > >
> > > ;o)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762
>
>He has been infected with the global boot pandemic.

;o)

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
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> WHY?!!
> :)
>
>
> Kim wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to put together a machine where I can boot to any of about 6
OS's
> > from a boot menu.
> >
> > One of the integral tricks is that the boot manager needs to reallocate
the
> > drive letters so that the booted drive becomes C drive, to allow me to
easily
> > Ghost systems on and off drives, and between partitions. Ghosted
partitions
> > don't work real well if you load them as C drive, and then ghost them to
> > D drive and expect them to work. If it was loaded as C it has to stay C.
> >
> > I've tried a whole bunch of different options, including the apparently
popular
> > OSLoader 2000 or whatever it's called. It wont even load my partitions.
Comes
> > up with an error saying "Invalid Image" or something. I'm wondering if
it
> > doesn't like NTFS.
> >
> > The best I've found is GAG, which is free, and would do the job except
for
> > the fact that I've got some partitions on one drive and some on another,
> > and when I use GAG to boot to the second drive it doesn't seem happy to
reallocate
> > C the title of C Drive to the booted partition, hence they don't run
properly.
> > I'm seriously considering doing a lot of partition shuffling and loading
> > all the stuff I want to boot on to the first hdd, as apparently GAG will
> > be happy to boot logical drives etc. GAG is really good though in other
respects.
> > Graphical interface, password options, single button OS selection, and
it's
> > FREE. ;o) It just wont reallocate drive names on the second drive...
> >
> > Does anyone have a really unreal system of running multi boots that
they'd
> > care to share? ;o)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762They're good, not great. You can clearly hear the difference between the RNP
and a higher-end unit like the Great River.

They are several notches better than Mackie, though, and they are an amazing
value. We don't track many instruments at a time around here, but if we did
the RNP would get a lot more use, whereas now we just use the Great River on
everything, with uniformly excellent results.

YOMV.

I've got my eye on one of those TAB units as a companion to my 1NV. I've
always wanted some really creamy preamp action...

Jimmy


"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:433ec75d$1@linux...
>
> Can those of you who have been using the RNP's for a while give me some
opinions?
> I am in the process of deciding on some new Pre amps.
> THinking of one Funkenwerks or GR 1NV and I may get a couple RNP's while
> I am at it. I am wondering how they do for overheads.
>
> TanxKim,
Same problem with Bios after 6. It looks lik
Re: OK......so I'm wondering about AMD 64 vs Opteron and x2 CPU's with wierd names [message #58679 is a reply to message #58678] Sun, 02 October 2005 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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e they nixed the IRQ control
after that. I went back to version 6 myself.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I had some trouble with mine with one pair of SATA ports not working and
>had to send it back, which took two attempts, and the turnaround per attempt
>was ten days, so I've only just got a new one last week and gotten back
on
>it.
>
>That said, it seems a very nice board. One thing I have noticed is that
BIOS
>versions after version 6 don't have nearly as much IRQ control. They seem
>to have irradicated the whole IRQ menu... plus something in my setup isn't
>happy with those versions and my machine wont even boot mostly with those
>versions (7-9). Not sure if it's the EDS cards or what.
>
>On BIOS V6 though she steams along. The only time it's hung at all is when
>I was fiddling with drive setups in the computer management area of control
>panel (partition management) and had an explorer window open with one of
>the drives I was fiddling with, which I can understand it not being happy
>about.
>
>I've had a world of hurt getting to where I am and it's not over yet, but
>I think the board itself is good. I think once I get it working nicely I'll
>be on a good thing. I'm very interested on how you go with later firmwares
>(7+) and EDS cards if you try it.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>I am building a computer for a friend who's going to be using cubase. I'm
>>using a Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 on Chris Ludwig's recommendation. I've
got
>>everything going on the basic build and done several stress tests. Everything
>>looks good and there were no problems except a bad removable rack tray
that
>>I spent several hours chasing down :-( Havn't installed cubase yet. I'm
>going
>>to try Paris and see how that goes. I've already ghosted so it's play time
>>:-)
>>I'll post on the results. Kim, how's your experience going?
>>One thing I noticed on some benchmark tests (HD tack) is the MSI neo-platinium
>>looks to be a bit faster on the benchmarks, given the same memory, cpu,
>and
>>drives.
>>If I remember right. Chris L. also recommended that mobo.
>>I'll post after I try the Paris thing.
>>Rod
>>
>Deej, the PCI IRQ's are totally steerable, as long as you don't go above Bios
version 6. Kind of weird.
I couldn't find any documentation that mentioned compabiliyt with dual core
CPU's, but I guess Kim did (in later versions...see his post below)
So far, I havn't been able to get Paris to work with it though.
No errors...it just won't do ANYTHING when I try to open paris.
I only tried late last night though, so it could have been a bad on my part.
I'll try again, and post the relults.
rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Mr. Sortyhorse,
>
>How are the IRQ's hard wired to the PCI slots in the bios? Are any PCI slots
>always sharing with the AGP?
>
>Does the bios of this mobo support dual core processors?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mr. Simplicity
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:433f0b50$1@linux...
>>
>> I am building a computer for a friend who's going to be using cubase.
I'm
>> using a Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 on Chris Ludwig's recommendation. I've
got
>> everything going on the basic build and done several stress tests.
>Everything
>> looks good and there were no problems except a bad removable rack tray
>that
>> I spent several hours chasing down :-( Havn't installed cubase yet. I'm
>going
>> to try Paris and see how that goes. I've already ghosted so it's play
time
>> :-)
>> I'll post on the results. Kim, how's your experience going?
>> One thing I noticed on some benchmark tests (HD tack) is the MSI
>neo-platinium
>> looks to be a bit faster on the benchmarks, given the same memory, cpu,
>and
>> drives.
>> If I remember right. Chris L. also recommended that mobo.
>> I'll post after I try the Paris thing.
>> Rod
>>
>
>But does BIOs version 6 support dual core CPU's?


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:43402f6c$1@linux...
>
> Kim,
> Same problem with Bios after 6. It looks like they nixed the IRQ control
> after that. I went back to version 6 myself.
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I had some trouble with mine with one pair of SATA ports not working and
> >had to send it back, which took two attempts, and the turnaround per
attempt
> >was ten days, so I've only just got a new one last week and gotten back
> on
> >it.
> >
> >That said, it seems a very nice board. One thing I have noticed is that
> BIOS
> >versions after version 6 don't have nearly as much IRQ control. They seem
>
Re: OK......so I'm wondering about AMD 64 vs Opteron and x2 CPU's with wierd names [message #58698 is a reply to message #58672] Mon, 03 October 2005 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
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sage
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>
> Hello all.. I got 4 EDS cards (running on XP pro..still with an Athlon
thurnderbird
> 900 MB ( yes laughable I know ).. but.. doing great actually.. and an
> ATI Radeon 7500 VGA card.. all running on Glyph storage ... ( UW SCSI 2)
> .. need to upgrade the system ( obviously hugely ) into a system that
> can work ( trustably ).both Paris Pro 3 ( with 4 EDS cards ) and the god
> damn Pro Tools 002 ( rack ).. any help ? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> ;-(Based on our own recent failure to get Paris and N3 to play nice
together, I would recommend building a decicated machine for PT.
Leave Paris on the machine where it is currently happy.

David.

Yasser Shaaban wrote:
> Hello all.. I got 4 EDS cards (running on XP pro..still with an Athlon thurnderbird
> 900 MB ( yes laughable I know ).. but.. doing great actually.. and an
> ATI Radeon 7500 VGA card.. all running on Glyph storage ... ( UW SCSI 2)
> .. need to upgrade the system ( obviously hugely ) into a system that
> can work ( trustably ).both Paris Pro 3 ( with 4 EDS cards ) and the god
> damn Pro Tools 002 ( rack ).. any help ? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> ;-(awwwww........dude!!!! He needs to experiment!!!......grow and
learn!!!!.....feel pain!!!!!.........go broke!!!!!!

Sometimes you're just wayyyyy too practical.

;o)

"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
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> Based on our own recent failure to get Paris and N3 to play nice
> together, I would recommend building a decicated machine for PT.
> Leave Paris on the machine where it is currently happy.
>
> David.
>
> Yasser Shaaban wrote:
> > Hello all.. I got 4 EDS cards (running on XP pro..still with an Athlon
thurnderbird
> > 900 MB ( yes laughable I know ).. but.. doing great actually.. and
an
> > ATI Radeon 7500 VGA card.. all running on Glyph storage ... ( UW SCSI
2)
> > .. need to upgrade the system ( obviously hugely ) into a system that
> > can work ( trustably ).both Paris Pro 3 ( with 4 EDS cards ) and the
god
> > damn Pro Tools 002 ( rack ).. any help ? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> > ;-( http://www.mediaworkstation.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id= 33905O'yeah!!!!!!.............and it's upgradable..........

>Another interesting capability is support of what's called a mezzanine card
where four more dual core processors can be added along with 16 more DIMM
slots for 32 more gigabytes of RAM. Imagine that -- 64 GB of RAM and 8 dual
core processors.<

Anyone want to buy my soul?

;o)

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:434186f0@linux...
> http://www.mediaworkstation.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id= 33905
>
>
>Looks like it would create enough thrust to get airborne ;-)

JH

DJ wrote:
> http://www.mediaworkstation.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id= 33905
>
>
>So, have you spoken for one of the "three" already??? ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> http://www.mediaworkstation.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id= 33905
>
>
>Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:

>Looks like it would create enough thrust to get airborne ;-)

That's why it comes standard with these...

http://htbbungeecords.bizland.com/store/largehookcords.html


:)there is no way to insert a stereo effect across 1 individual submix
correct?Actually, I'm going to need all three in order to get system link happening.

;o)

"EK Sound" <

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Re: OK......so I'm wondering about AMD 64 vs Opteron and x2 CPU'swith wierd names [message #58730 is a reply to message #58698] Tue, 04 October 2005 06:24 Go to previous message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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t;>Leave Paris on the machine where it is currently happy.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Yasser Shaaban wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello all.. I got 4 EDS cards (running on XP pro..still with an Athlon
>>
>>thurnderbird
>>
>>>>900 MB ( yes laughable I know ).. but.. doing great actually.. and
>>
>>an
>>
>>>>ATI Radeon 7500 VGA card.. all running on Glyph storage ... ( UW SCSI
>>
>>2)
>>
>>>>.. need to upgrade the system ( obviously hugely ) into a system that
>>>>can work ( trustably ).both Paris Pro 3 ( with 4 EDS cards ) and the
>>
>>god
>>
>>>>damn Pro Tools 002 ( rack ).. any help ? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>> ;-(
>>
>Yes,

There is an option to combine L & R .paf's to stereo .wav.

Deej

"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:4342a7e6$1@linux...
>
> In other words, if a pair of PARIS tracks is converted to WAV, is the
result
> a stereo WAV file?
>
> ThanksLooks like I definitely won't make it...doing a gig in Atlanta for Nancy Wilson
who is being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Can't complain too much about
that.

TyroneKim, thanks so very much for doing this. Although I may not be the most active
in regards to posting threads, I read the newsgroup quite regularly...even
have sent to my "handheld" while I'm on the road.

I certaily appreciate your hosting the site!!!

Tyroneooh...hope no one was in it at the time....

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:51:25 -0600, EK Sound
<spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:

>My life preserver sank this last time out.... ;-)
>
>David.
>
>rick wrote:
>> damn right...i'm sure david has no idea how long it takes for a life
>> preserver to dry once it gets wet. good call mr. simplicity.
>>
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:12:07 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>awwwww........dude!!!! He needs to experiment!!!......grow and
>>>learn!!!!.....feel pain!!!!!.........go broke!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Sometimes you're just wayyyyy too practical.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43417857$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Based on our own recent failure to get Paris and N3 to play nice
>>>>together, I would recommend building a decicated machine for PT.
>>>>Leave Paris on the machine where it is currently happy.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Yasser Shaaban wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello all.. I got 4 EDS cards (running on XP pro..still with an Athlon
>>>
>>>thurnderbird
>>>
>>>>>900 MB ( yes laughable I know ).. but.. doing great actually.. and
>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>>>ATI Radeon 7500 VGA card.. all running on Glyph storage ... ( UW SCSI
>>>
>>>2)
>>>
>>>>>.. need to upgrade the system ( obviously hugely ) into a system that
>>>>>can work ( trustably ).both Paris Pro 3 ( with 4 EDS cards ) and the
>>>
>>>god
>>>
>>>>>damn Pro Tools 002 ( rack ).. any help ? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>>> ;-(
>>>
>>moe...larry get the cheese...moe...larry get the cheese nyuk nyuk
nyuk...

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:37:31 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>.....but of course!!! and I will need one of these *per computer*, and a new
>studio control room in order to make room for all of this.
>
>;oD
>
>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:4342867b$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ.Leave a few bucks for this:
>> http://www.go-l.com/monitors/athens/features/index.htm
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >sssssssttttttREWTH!!!
>> >
>> >OK guys, get the tranquiliser gun... Deej looks like he's going for the
>> >wallet again... ;o)
>> >
>> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> http://www.mediaworkstation.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id= 33905
>>
>My all time favorite Curly. wooobooboobooobooob!!!!!!!

;o)

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