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| OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58795] |
Thu, 06 October 2005 08:32  |
Rod Lincoln
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else is going on that I'm missing. I'll do some more troubleshooting
>> as I get the time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to what may
be
>> another reason fkor the problem.
>> I have a hard time believing that this mobo just doesn't like "black"
rack
>> drives.
>> RodOK, I tried a DIFFERENT rack (Kingwin) that I've had for a while, better made,
and worked....IT DOESN"T WORK, but I put in the cheapo beige drive that I
use (I have several of these laying around) and is works fine. Something
is up, because I know the Kingwin rack is good.
RodAre you using a nice "short" high density IDE cable? Try CS mode on
the drive to see if this helps also.
David.
Rod Lincoln wrote:
> they say 66/100/133
> Rod
> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
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>>Are these rated for 133?? I had a similar problem with 66 trays in XP.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
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>>>I'm buildin
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58801 is a reply to message #58800] |
Thu, 06 October 2005 10:26  |
Rod Lincoln
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else fails spray paint the beige on black
>>
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>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:43454d37$1@linux...
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>>>OK, I tried a DIFFERENT rack (Kingwin) that I've had for a while, better
>
>
>>>made,
>>>and worked....IT DOESN"T WORK, but I put in the cheapo beige drive that
>
> I
>
>>>use (I have several of these laying around) and is works fine. Something
>>>is up, because I know the Kingwin rack is good.
>>>
>>>Rod
>>
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>I believe, you can't open 2.2 Paris files in 3.0. I think you would have
to export individual track/files and bring them back in to Paris 3.0.
James
Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote:
>I have a project coming in that was recorded in Paris 2.2 on a
>Win XP machine. I run Paris 3.0 on a G4 Mac. If he brings
>me a firewire drive w/ his project on it will my machine "see" it?
>
>If not what do we need to do to make this happen?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Gantt
>>In version 4.0 of the UAD-1 software, UA introduces Tempo Sync: the ability
to synchronize the delays and modulation rates of UAD-1 plug-ins to the host
application tempo, and Turbo DMA (Direct Memory Access) to maximize
stability and performance on dual-core and multiprocessor AMD and Intel
systems.
Also included is a fully functional 14-day demo of the brand new Roland
Dimension D. The Dimension D costs $149 USD with authorizations available
from my.uaudio.com.
For a limited time, you can purchase the Big BOSS Bundle: the Roland
Dimension D with the BOSS CE-1 for only $199, a savings of $49!
The Dimension D is a one of a kind studio gem that adheres to the principle
of doing one thing, and doing it extremely well. Its one and only function:
some of the best sounding stereo chorus ever made. However the Dimension D
is more than a chorus, it is really a unique sound enhancer for adding
spatial and stereo widening effects. This classic 1979 Roland device has
been heard on countless records, from luminaries such as Peter Gabriel,
Talking Heads and INXS. Universal Audio went to great lengths to preserve
this Bucket Brigade chorus with all its unique design elements and sonic
characteristics. With only four pushbutton 'dimension' settings, the
Dimension D is the ultimate in functional simplicity.
Accurate model of unique Dimension D chorus effect
Designed for subtle chorus and spatial effects
Entrusted by Roland for accurate analog modeling
Identical look, controls, and operation of its analog counterpart
Four pushbuttons for four different levels of effect intensity <Deej, you know what will happen if you don't get these plugins!!! I'll bet
you've already have them.
J
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness...weird update [message #58804 is a reply to message #58803] |
Thu, 06 October 2005 11:48 |
Tom Bruhl
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nd sonic
>characteristics. With only four pushbutton 'dimension' settings, the
>Dimension D is the ultimate in functional simplicity.
>
>Accurate model of unique Dimension D chorus effect
>
>Designed for subtle chorus and spatial effects
>
>Entrusted by Roland for accurate analog modeling
>
>Identical look, controls, and operation of its analog counterpart
>
>Four pushbuttons for four different levels of effect intensity <
>
>I use very little in the way of modulation FX and I find that the Paris
modpack suits my needs. I'm holding off until UA comes out with an LA-3A.
Only then will the countdown to my death throes begin and I will be
compelled to buy.
;o)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43457f3c$1@linux...
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> Deej, you know what will happen if you don't get these plugins!!! I'll
bet
> you've already have them.
>
> James
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>In version 4.0 of the UAD-1 software, UA introduces Tempo Sync: the
ability
> >to synchronize the delays and modulation rates of UAD-1 plug-ins to the
> host
> >application tempo, and Turbo DMA (Direct Memory Access) to maximize
> >stability and performance on dual-core and multiprocessor AMD and Intel
> >systems.
> >
> >Also included is a fully functional 14-day demo of the brand new Roland
> >Dimension D. The Dimension D costs $149 USD with authorizations available
> >from my.uaudio.com.
> >
> >For a limited time, you can purchase the Big BOSS Bundle: the Roland
> >Dimension D with the BOSS CE-1 for only $199, a savings of $49!
> >
> >The Dimension D is a one of a kind studio gem that adheres to the
principle
> >of doing one thing, and doing it extremely well. Its one and only
function:
> >some of the best sounding stereo chorus ever made. However the Dimension
> D
> >is more than a chorus, it is really a unique sound enhancer for adding
> >spatial and stereo widening effects. This classic 1979 Roland device has
> >been heard on countless records, from luminaries such as Peter Gabriel,
> >Talking Heads and INXS. Universal Audio went to great lengths to preserve
> >this Bucket Brigade chorus with all its unique design elements and sonic
> >characteristics. With only four pushbutton 'dimension' settings, the
> >Dimension D is the ultimate in functional simplicity.
> >
> >Accurate model of unique Dimension D chorus effect
> >
> >Designed for subtle chorus and spatial effects
> >
> >Entrusted by Roland for accurate analog modeling
> >
> >Identical look, controls, and operation of its analog counterpart
> >
> >Four pushbuttons for four different levels of effect intensity <
> >
> >Deej, you know what will happen if you don't get these plugins!!! I'll bet
you already have them.
James
P.S. I just love my Eningrish!
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Deej, you know what will happen if you don't get these plugins!!! I'll
bet
>you've already have them.
>
>James
>
>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>In version 4.0 of the UAD-1 software, UA introduces Tempo Sync: the ability
>>to synchronize the delays and modulation rates of UAD-1 plug-ins to the
>host
>>application tempo, and Turbo DMA (Direct Memory Access) to maximize
>>stability and performance on dual-core and multiprocessor AMD and Intel
>>systems.
>>
>>Also included is a fully functional 14-day demo of the brand new Roland
>>Dimension D. The Dimension D costs $149 USD with authorizations available
>>from my.uaudio.com.
>>
>>For a limited time, you can purchase the Big BOSS Bundle: the Roland
>>Dimension D with the BOSS CE-1 for only $199, a savings of $49!
>>
>>The Dimension D is a one of a kind studio gem that adheres to the principle
>>of doing one thing, and doing it extremely well. Its one and only function:
>
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58822 is a reply to message #58801] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 02:09 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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t, but
> >> >audible in the *car key* test. The Mojave has very good mid and HF
> >handling
> >> >characteristics and is very flattering to the human voice with a very
> >warm
> >> >bottom which is, inthe case of my mics, probably due to the Jensen
> >> >transformers.
> >> >
> >> >The SE Gemini sounds similar in some ways. The bottom sounds different
> >from
> >> >the Mojave, probably due to the fact that there is a tube at the
output
> >> >stage rather than a transformer. I haven't played around with this as
> >much
> >> >as I intend to, but I can envision a bit of variety by switching
tubes.
> >> The
> >> >Gemini has a bit more output gain than my Mojaves, but the self noise
is
> >> >just a low (both are very well behaved for tube mics). The Gemini has
> >*lots*
> >> >of low level detail. If expression is what you're looking for, you're
> >going
> >> >to get it in spades with the Gemini.
> >> >
> >> >I heard an interview with Allison Krause's engineer once describing
the
> >> way
> >> >he used a Sony C800G on her voice and how this picked up every nuance.
> >The
> >> >Gemini has this kind of low level detail. The C800G is a $5k
microphone.
> >> At
> >> >first I was a bit put off by the Gemini because it's so heavy. You
need
> >> a
> >> >moose of a mic stand to support it. I use a big Atlas boom. If you
decide
> >> on
> >> >one of these make sure you've got the infrasturcture to use it.
> >> >
> >> >I love them both. They have both done justice to vocals and
instruments
> >> (the
> >> >Gemini can be an awesome guitar mic when placed about 2' from the
guitar
> >> due
> >> >to it's high output and detail-the Mojave usually gets the nod on
upright
> >> >bass) If I want to get the *breathy thing* going with a femme
vocalist,
> >> I
> >> >reach for the Gemini. Since the Gemini covers about 95% of what the
> >Movaje
> >> >does tonally, it might be a more versatile piece, especially since the
> >tubes
> >> >can be swapped out to taste.
> >> >
> >> >Both of these smoke my Stephen Paul U87 for vocal tracking. It's hard
to
> >> >admit it, but I just keep the Stephen Paul mic around here these days
to
> >> >impress people. It's a beautiful and very *true* sounding mic and it
> >still
> >> >gets used a lot on instrumental dubs but it seldom gets the nod on a
> >vocal
> >> >session after a singer has heard their voice on the Gemini or Mojave.
> >> >
> >> >Also, I'd say that though the Gemini is manufactured in Shanghai,
don't
> >> let
> >> >that worry you at all. This thing is beyond the Studio Projects
> >offerings.
> >> >SE doesn't appear to be trying to make *cheap mics* It looks and
sounds
> >> >like a quality piece. I can't really speak for the new Mojave's that
are
> >> >also being manufactured in China, but if they are anything like my
hand
> >> made
> >&
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58829 is a reply to message #58801] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 08:28 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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> Let me go on record saying Morgan at Eastcoast has been nothing
> but helpful with this,staying in constant contact and updating
> me.Thanks Morgan.
>
> I just have to say for the Mac bashers I never has any problems
> like this before I got my PC.Got an old 9600 thats still kicking
> it after all these years.Sorry had to rant a little;I know these
> probs can happen to anyone on any machine at anytime.
> Was it Rick who had the looong Apple saga?
>
> Tune in tommorrow......
>
> PeteHola Dimitrios,
A zip of these would be welcome here :)
El Miguel
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4339001b@linux...
> You can find all and more at www.kvraudio.com
> But I can make a zip of them and send to anyone interested.
> I have tested all dynamics there and found these to be of 0 latency and
good
> sounding...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
> regards,
> Dimitrios
> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:43384262$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > Cool D!, Any links?
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >All are free too !
> > >
> > >D_Limiter
> > >Db compressor
> > >TL_satureted_driver
> > >Simple_Limiter
> > >Soft_overdrive
> > >Gene_comp_mono
> > >mda_dynamics
> > >MJ_compressor
> > >mda_loudness
> > >MJ_multiband
> > >Classic_compressor
> > >Camelphat_free
> > >E_phonic_Xpressor
> > >Mn_CompV1.r
> > >Luxonix_LFX1310
> > >
> > >All the above have been tested and sound good to very very good....
> > >
> > >If anyone wants them I can send them while they are free anyway...
> > >Regards,
> > >Dimitrios
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>Anyone using the latest UAD1 with a mac?I'm pretty sure that version 4 does NOT work in OS9
"Jim Phillips" <jmp@ncounty.net> wrote:
>
>Anyone using the latest UAD1 with a mac?This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Yes but it STILL has to be black...
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:4346957e@linux...
USB 2.0 External drive bay could be your answer.... they're cheap too =
now.
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:43455e37$1@linux...
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> Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all with =
the=20
> same
> results. I've tried CS. The results are still the same. The guy is =
REALLY
> stuck on wanting the WHOLE computer black, or, I would just use the =
beige
> dri
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58830 is a reply to message #58801] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 08:30 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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ve that works.
> I may just put the sys drive in an internal bracket and slap the =
cover=20
> over
> the hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like to =
> figure
> it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards and letters =
coming.
>
> Rod
>
> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE cable? Try CS mode on
>>the drive to see if this helps also.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>
>>> they say 66/100/133
>>> Rod
>>> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Are these rated for 133?? I had a similar problem with 66 trays in =
XP.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm building a computer for a friend to run cubase on. Got =
everything
>>>
>>> going
>>>
>>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile rack tray (IDE) for the system drive.
>>>>>Here's the history. I bought 2 of these on line (he wanted black, =
so
> I
>>>
>>> had
>>>
>>>>>to go with a different brand than I normally use) neither one of =
them
>>>
>>> worked
>>>
>>>>>I got "ERROR in READING DRIVE)
>>>>>on boot (this is the system drive). It is on ide bus 1 by itself =
and
> is
>>>
>>> set
>>>
>>>>>properly with the jumper for single master.
>>>>>I already tried different ide cables...no worky, BUT, when I =
switched
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>a mobile rack that I use, it worked fine. So I figured it was =
just=20
>>>>>crappy
>>>>>racks. (mines beige and this guy wants black).
>>>>>I went to comp usa and bought one of their "brand" black mobile =
drives
>>>
>>> on
>>>
>>>>>a recomendation from a friend and get the same dang error again. =
Now,
>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>could be that this drive from CRAP USA is also bad, but I'm =
starting
> to
>>>
>>> wonder
>>>
>>>>>if something else is going on that I'm missing. I'll do some more =
>>>>>troubleshooting
>>>>>as I get the time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to what =
may
>>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>>>another reason fkor the problem.
>>>>>I have a hard time believing that this mobo just doesn't like =
"black"
>>>
>>> rack
>>>
>>>>>drives.
>>>>>Rod
>>>
>>>
>=20
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58836 is a reply to message #58830] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 09:46 |
Tom Bruhl
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 06:36:02 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Nyuk.....nyuk........
>
>;o)
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3ieck1dd95evvikjpculr4tc2t1m1cnltk@4ax.com...
>> golly beave...
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:08:41 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm sure that Mike will do this for you if you pay me $1000.000.
>> >
>> >;O) arf arf!!!.....kiddin'!!!!.......just kiddin.
>> >
>> >Last I heard, Mike had retired from modding other mikes because he said
>he
>> >needs more time to work on himself.
>> >
>> >(damn......am I Mr. Clever today or what?)
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"cuio" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:43452495$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> DJ, do you know if Mike C will do these mods for anyone else?
>> >> I'd like to mod a PPA 2ube for a lower noise floor and slightly
>smoother
>> >> presence.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >Well......hmmmmm. I don't own and have little experience with the U47.
>> >I've
>> >> >used one a couple of times. I though it was very flattering to to
>> >> >male,/female vocals and bass cab/upright which were the only things I
>> >have
>> >> >ever used it on.
>> >> >
>> >> >About 4 years ago, Mike Claytor read the TapeOp article by David Royer
>> >and
>> >> >put one of these mics together. I ended up with it on a loan and used
>it
>> >> on
>> >> >a female vocalist in a demo session. On her voice, it had that same
>rich
>> >> >velvety vibe that I remembered about the U47. I have used it on male
>> >> >vocalists as well. I liked it so much that I bought another one that
>Mike
>> >> >made. These mics are point-to-point wired through perfboard with
>Peluso
>> >> >capsules so this may set them apart from the Mojave mics which are
>most
>> >> >likely designed around prefab PCB's like the later Royer kits. I also
>> >don't
>> >> >know anything about the capsules that Mojave is using. I will say that
>> >the
>> >> >original Marshallcapsules that were used in my mics sounded excellent.
>> >The
>> >> >Peluso capsules have a bit more detail to my ears. This is slight, but
>> >> >audible in the *car key* test. The Mojave has very good mid and HF
>> >handling
>> >> >characteristics and is very flattering to the human voice with a very
>> >warm
>> >> >bottom which is, inthe case of my mics, probably due to the Jensen
>> >> >transformers.
>> >> >
>> >> >The SE Gemini sounds similar in some ways. The bottom sounds different
>> >from
>> >> >the Mojave, probably due to the fact that there is a tube at the
>output
>> >> >stage rather than a transformer. I haven't played around with this as
>> >much
>> >> >as I intend to, but I can envision a bit of variety by switching
>tubes.
>> >> The
>> >> >Gemini has a bit more output gain than my Mojaves, but the self noise
>is
>> >> >just a low (both are very well behaved for tube mics). The Gemini has
>> >*lots*
>> >> >of low level detail. If expression is what you're looking for, you're
>> >going
>> >> >to get it in spades with the Gemini.
>> >> >
>> >> >I heard an interview with Allison Krause's engineer once describing
>the
>> >> way
>> >> >he used a Sony C800G on her voice and how this picked up every nuance.
>> >The
>> >> >Gemini has this kind of low level detail. The C800G is a $5k
>microphone.
>> >> At
>> >> >first I was a bit put off by the Gemini because it's so heavy. You
>need
>> >> a
>> >> >moose of a mic stand to support it. I use a big Atlas boom. If you
>decide
>> >> on
>> >> >one of these make sure you've got the infrasturcture to use it.
>> >> >
>> >> >I love them both. They have both done justice to vocals and
>instruments
>> >> (the
>> >> >Gemini can be an awesome guitar mic when placed about 2' from the
>guitar
>> >> due
>> >> >to it's high output and detail-the Mojave usually gets the nod on
>upright
>> >> >bass) If I want to get the *breathy thing* going with a femme
>vocalist,
>> >> I
>> >> >reach for the Gemini. Since the Gemini covers about 95% of what the
>> >Movaje
>> >> >does tonally, it might be a more versatile piece, especially since the
>> >tubes
>> >> >can be swapped out to taste.
>> >> >
>> >> >Both of these smoke my Stephen Paul U87 for vocal tracking. It's hard
>to
>> >> >admit it, but I just keep the Stephen Paul mic around here these days
>to
>> >> >impress people. It's a beautiful and very *true* sounding mic and it
>> >still
>> >> >gets used a lot on instrumental dubs but it seldom gets the nod on a
>> >vocal
>> >> >session after a singer has heard their voice on the Gemini or Mojave.
>> >> >
>> >> >Also, I'd say that though the Gemini is manufactured in Shanghai,
>don't
>> >> let
>> >> >that worry you at all. This thing is beyond the Studio Projects
>> >offerings.
>> >> >SE doesn't appear to be trying to make *cheap mics* It looks and
>sounds
>> >> >like a quality piece. I can't really speak for the new Mojave's that
>are
>> >> >also being manufactured in China, but if they are anything like my
>hand
>> >> made
>> >> >mics, they are wonderful.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's really hard to believe that mics this good can be had for
>$1000.00.
>> >> >
>> >> >Deej
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:4344265d$1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hey Deej, I was speaking with Morgan about mic's and he mentioned
>that
>> >> you
>> >> >> have both the Mojave and Se Gemini. What are your impressions?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tyrone
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>Yeah, I don't think that would fly anyway. I think I'll just put the system
drive in an internal bay and hook it up directly to the mobo...no mobile
rack. He'll never be changing it anyway.
I was trying to give him the option to have an extra system drive to pop
in, in case of failure...since he's not a tech guy at all.
Or I may paint it.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Yes but it STILL has to be black...
>Tom
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
>news:4346957e@linux...
> USB 2.0 External drive bay could be your answer.... they're cheap too
=
>now.
> AA
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:43455e37$1@linux...
> >
> > Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried severa
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58838 is a reply to message #58836] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 10:08 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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the system drive.<BR>>>>>>Here's the history. =
>I=20
> bought 2 of these on line (he wanted black, so<BR>>=20
> I<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> had<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>to go with a different =
>brand than I=20
> normally use) neither one of them<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> worked<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>I got "ERROR in READING=20
> DRIVE)<BR>>>>>>on boot (this is the system drive). It =
>is on ide=20
> bus 1 by itself and<BR>> is<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> set<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>properly with the jumper =
>for single=20
> master.<BR>>>>>>I already tried different ide =
>cables...no=20
> worky, BUT, when I switched<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> to<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a mobile rack that I use, it =
>worked=20
> fine. So I figured it was just=20
> <BR>>>>>>crappy<BR>>>>>>racks. (mines =
>beige and=20
> this guy wants black).<BR>>>>>>I went to comp usa and =
>bought=20
> one of their "brand" black mobile =
>drives<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> on<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a recomendation from a =
>friend and=20
> get the same dang error again. Now,<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> it<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>could be that this drive =
>from CRAP=20
> USA is also bad, but I'm starting<BR>> =
>to<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> wonder<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>if something else is =
>going on=20
> that I'm missing. I'll do some more=20
> <BR>>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>>>>>>as I =
>get the=20
> time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to what=20
> may<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> be<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>another reason fkor the=20
> problem.<BR>>>>>>I have a hard time believing that this =
>mobo=20
> just doesn't like "black"<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> =
>rack<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>drives.<BR>>>>>&g=
>t;Rod<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>=20
> <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>i guess one would have to define "quirks". i've been involved with
macs since the beginning of PT (other studios) and i've never seen a
"quirk free" one. this is not a criticism of them but, neither do i
see them as the second coming...they're just another computer that
when it works it's great and sucks when it doesn't. if the guy from
atari had any balls, there probably wouldn't be a mac but just a
really kickass functioning audio platform.
On 7 Oct 2005 23:08:17 +1000, "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Not to open a can of worms here but, my Paris comp is a PC (XP)
>My wife works on a g4, and the comp I am typing on now is an ibook.
>The PC is way faster, but the MAC OS is so much smoother. No wierd quirks
>at all.
>It may have quirks if I put 2 EDS cards and a UAD card in though I suppose.
>
>
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>not really, i just see nothing special about macs...several years ago
>>maybe but certainly not now.
>>
>>On 7 Oct 2005 17:47:18 +1000, "Ab" <ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>But, Rick is a die-hard PC guy, and Macs do notice when you try to handle
>>>them
>>>in a PC-sh way;-?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To recap my PC was just giving me lights and fans so I
>>>>stripped it down,replaced the power supply,no go.
>>>>
>>>> Took it to the local PC shop who said I had a bad processor.
>>>>He said he put in a new processor and it fired back up.
>>>>
>>>> So I've waited about 2 weeks or so to get a new processor;got
>>>>it today,installed it and......drum roll-lights and fans;no
>>>>change!DAMN!!!DOUBLE DAMN!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Needless to say I will be visiting the local PC shop tommorrow
>>>>to "discuss"this matter with them.
>>>>
>>>> Let me go on record saying Morgan at Eastcoast has been nothing
>>>>but helpful with this,staying in constant contact and updating
>>>>me.Thanks Morgan.
>>>>
>>>> I just have to say for the Mac bashers I never has any problems
>>>>like this before I got my PC.Got an old 9600 thats still kicking
>>>>it after all these years.Sorry had to rant a little;I know these
>>>>probs can happen to anyone on any machine at anytime.
>>>> Was it Rick who had the looong Apple saga?
>>>>
>>>>Tune in tommorrow......
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>You might be surprised cujo. My old dual 1GHz G4 still runs smooth as silk
with three EDS cards and a UAD-1. It's not as powerful as the newer Macs
and PC's, but it never crashes (knocking wood as I speak).
Tony
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:43467341$1@linux...
>
>
>
> Not to open a can of worms here but, my Paris comp is a PC (XP)
> My wife works on a g4, and the comp I am typing on now is an ibook.
> The PC is way faster, but the MAC OS is so much smoother. No wierd quirks
> at all.
> It may have quirks if I put 2 EDS cards and a UAD card in though I
> suppose.
>
>
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>not really, i just see nothing special about macs...several years ago
>>maybe but certainly not now.
>>
>>On 7 Oct 2005 17:47:18 +1000, "Ab" <ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>But, Rick is a die-hard PC guy, and Macs do notice when you try to handle
>>>them
>>>in a PC-sh way;-?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To recap my PC was just giving me lights and fans so I
>>>>stripped it down,replaced the power supply,no go.
>>>>
>>>> Took it to the local PC shop who said I had a bad processor.
>>>>He said he put in a new processor and it fired back up.
>>>>
>>>> So I've waited about 2 weeks or so to get a new processor;got
>>>>it today,installed it and......drum roll-lights and fans;no
>>>>change!DAMN!!!DOUBLE DAMN!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Needless to say I will be visiting the local PC shop tommorrow
>>>>to "discuss"this matter with them.
>>>>
>>>> Let me go on record saying Morgan at Eastcoast has been nothing
>>>>but helpful with this,staying in constant contact and updating
>>>>me.Thanks Morgan.
>>>>
>>>> I just have to say for the Mac bashers I never has any problems
>>>>like this before I got my PC.Got an old 9600 thats still kicking
>>>>it after all these years.Sorry had to rant a little;I know these
>>>>probs can happen to anyone on any machine at anytime.
>>>> Was it Rick who had the looong Apple saga?
>>>>
>>>>Tune in tommorrow......
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>
>Rod, I have sent it to you...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:43468f5e$1@linux...
>
> D..where's the 4 slot free version? I can't find it.
> Rod
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >I don't know if anyone has come up to this but the free FFX4 DX chainer
> or
> >the commercial buy of FFX16 can load the UAD plugins with VU indications
> and
> >Preset handling.
> >The latency is 4096 for a normal UAD plugin instance.
> >Regards,
> >Dimitrios
> >
> >
>There is this called multifxvst chainer that when inserted from within
chainer or Spinaudio (alone crashes Paris) it wrapps UAD1 plugins (and not
only) and lower the latency down to 2048 samples only !
That is 46.44 ms at 44.1khz
This compared to 16384 samples of FXpansion is a big leap forward.
Chainer (wrapped with Spinaudio again) has a latency of 4096 samples.
This is free still in beta version but works fine (only from inside chainer)
It must sound stupid to have to wrap chainer from Spinaudio and then load
multifxvst from inside Chainer, but if you want low latency (remember 2048
latency) you do this once and then just open the Spinaudiowrapped chainer
and load multifxvst.
Because of the lower latency you can hear the UAD effect without having to
compensate before you hear if you like it or not.
Remember do NOT put multifxvst right from inside Paris alone with no chainer
because it will crash Paris, and probably you will have to reboot then.
I will get in contact with the author for any updates of it.
Regards,
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Rod,
I have removable SATAs in my comp. I wanted beige and got them.
The second pair I purposely bought black to differentiate them.
Sometimes it's a good thing. XP black, ME beige.?.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
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Yeah, I don't think that would fly anyway. I think I'll just put the =
system
drive in an internal bay and hook it up directly to the mobo...no =
mobile
rack. He'll never be changing it anyway.
I was trying to give him the option to have an extra system drive to =
pop
in, in case of failure...since he's not a tech guy at all.
Or I may paint it.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Yes but it STILL has to be black...
>Tom
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =3D
>news:4346957e@linux...
> USB 2.0 External drive bay could be your answer.... they're cheap =
too
=3D
>now.
> AA
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58843 is a reply to message #58838] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 10:33 |
Tom Bruhl
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nfo@eksoundNO.com<=
/A>=3D
>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE =3D
>cable? =3D20
> Try CS mode on<BR>>>the drive to see if this helps=3D20
> also.<BR>>><BR>>>David.<BR>>><BR>>>Rod Lincoln =3D
>
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> they say 66/100/133<BR>>>> =3D
>
> Rod<BR>>>> EK Sound <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com<=
/A>=3D
>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Are these rated for 133?? I =3D
>had a=3D20
> similar problem with 66 trays in=3D20
> =3D
>XP.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>David.<BR>>>>><BR>=3D
>>>>>Rod=3D20
> Lincoln wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>I'm building =3D
>a=3D20
> computer for a friend to run cubase on. Got=3D20
> everything<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> going<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile =3D
>rack tray=3D20
> (IDE) for the system drive.<BR>>>>>>Here's the history. =3D
>I=3D20
> bought 2 of these on line (he wanted black, so<BR>>=3D20
> I<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> had<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>to go with a different =3D
>brand than I=3D20
> normally use) neither one of them<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> worked<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>I got "ERROR in READING=3D20
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>is on ide=3D20
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> set<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>properly with the jumper =3D
>for single=3D20
> master.<BR>>>>>>I already tried different ide =3D
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> to<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a mobile rack that I use, it =3D
>worked=3D20
> fine. So I figured it was just=3D20
> <BR>>>>>>crappy<BR>>>>>>racks. (mines =3D
>beige and=3D20
> this guy wants black).<BR>>>>>>I went to comp usa and =3D
>bought=3D20
> one of their "brand" black mobile =3D
>drives<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> on<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a recomendation from a =3D
>friend and=3D20
> get the same dang error again. Now,<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> it<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>could be that this drive =3D
>from CRAP=3D20
> USA is also bad, but I'm starting<BR>> =3D
>to<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> wonder<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>if something else is =3D
>going on=3D20
> that I'm missing. I'll do some more=3D20
> <BR>>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>>>>>>as I =3D
>get the=3D20
> time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to what=3D20
> may<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> be<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>another reason fkor the=3D20
> problem.<BR>>>>>>I have a hard time believing that this =3D
>mobo=3D20
> just doesn't like "black"<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> =3D
>rack<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>drives.<BR>>>>>&g=3D
>t;Rod<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The second pair I purposely bought =
black to=20
differentiate them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sometimes it's a good thing. XP =
black, ME=20
beige.?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4346ab89$1@linux">news:4346ab89$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Yeah=
, I=20
don't think that would fly anyway. I think I'll just put the =
system<BR>drive=20
in an internal bay and hook it up directly to the mobo...no =
mobile<BR>rack.=20
He'll never be changing it anyway.<BR>I was trying to give him the =
option to=20
have an extra system drive to pop<BR>in, in case of failure...since =
he's not a=20
tech guy at all.<BR>Or I may paint it.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Yes but it STILL has to be=20
black...<BR>>Tom<BR>> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D<BR>>news:4346957e@linux...<BR>> USB 2.0 =
External drive=20
bay could be your answer.... they're cheap =
too<BR>=3D<BR>>now.<BR>> =20
AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>news:43455e37$1@linux...<BR>> ><BR>> =
> Yeah,=20
I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all=20
with<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> > same<BR>> > =
results.=20
I've tried CS. The results are still the same. The guy is=20
=3D<BR>>REALLY<BR>> > stuck on wanting the WHOLE =
computer black,=20
or, I would just use the<BR>=3D<BR>>beige<BR>> > drive =
that=20
works.<BR>> > I may just put the sys drive in an internal =
bracket=20
and slap the =3D<BR>>cover=3D20<BR>> > =
over<BR>> > the=20
hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like=20
to<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> > figure<BR>> > it out. =
I=20
appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards and letters=20
=3D<BR>>coming.<BR>> ><BR>> > =
Rod<BR>> =20
><BR>> > EK Sound <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
>=20
wrote:<BR>> >>Are you using a nice "short" high density =
IDE=20
cable? Try CS mode on<BR>> >>the drive to see if =
this=20
helps also.<BR>> >><BR>> =
>>David.<BR>> =20
>><BR>> >>Rod Lincoln wrote:<BR>> =20
>><BR>> >>> they say 66/100/133<BR>> =20
>>> Rod<BR>> >>> EK Sound <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
>=20
wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>Are =
these=20
rated for 133?? I had a similar problem with 66 trays=20
in<BR>=3D<BR>>XP.<BR>> >>>><BR>> =20
>>>>David.<BR>> >>>><BR>> =20
>>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>><BR>> >>>>>I'm building a =
computer for=20
a friend to run cubase on. Got =3D<BR>>everything<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> going<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile =
rack=20
tray (IDE) for the system drive.<BR>> =
>>>>>Here's the=20
history. I bought 2 of these on line (he wanted=20
black,<BR>=3D<BR>>so<BR>> > I<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> had<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>>>>to go with a different =
brand=20
than I normally use) neither one of<BR>=3D<BR>>them<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> worked<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>>>>I got "ERROR in READING =
DRIVE)<BR>> >>>>>on boot (this is the system =
drive).=20
It is on ide bus 1 by itself<BR>=3D<BR>>and<BR>> >=20
is<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> =
set<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>>>>properly with the =
jumper for=20
single master.<BR>> >>>>>I already tried =
different ide=20
cables...no worky, BUT, when I =3D<BR>>switched<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> to<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>>>>a mobile rack that I =
use, it=20
worked fine. So I figured it was =3D<BR>>just=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>crappy<BR>> >>>>>racks. =
(mines=20
beige and this guy wants black).<BR>> >>>>>I =
went to=20
comp usa and bought one of their "brand" black mobile=20
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>>>=20
on<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>a=20
recomendation from a friend and get the same dang error=20
again.<BR>=3D<BR>>Now,<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>=20
it<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>could =
be that=20
this drive from CRAP USA is also bad, but I'm =
=3D<BR>>starting<BR>> =20
> to<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>=20
wonder<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>if =
something else is going on that I'm missing. I'll do some=20
more<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>> =
>>>>>as I get=20
the time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to=20
what<BR>=3D<BR>>may<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>=20
be<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>>>another reason=20
fkor the problem.<BR>> >>>>>I have a hard time =
believing that this mobo just doesn't like =
=3D<BR>>"black"<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> rack<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>>>>drives.<BR>> =20
>>>>>Rod<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
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Lincoln" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
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Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all with=20
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results. I've=20
tried CS. The results are still =3D<BR>>the =
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=3D<BR>>or,=20
I=3D20<BR>> would just use the beige<BR>> drive that =
works.<BR>> I may just =3D<BR>>put the=3D20<BR>> =
sys drive in=20
an internal bracket and slap the cover <BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>over<BR>> the=3D20<BR>> hole and call it =
good, but=20
this kind of bugs me, and I'd like to =
=3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
figure<BR>> it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those =
cards=20
=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> letters =
coming.<BR>><BR>>= 20
Rod<BR>><BR>> EK Sound <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A'=
>mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A</=
A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE=20
=3D<BR>>cable? =3D20<BR>> Try CS mode =
on<BR>>>the drive to=20
see if this helps=3D20<BR>> =20
=
also.<BR>>><BR>&am p;gt;>David.<BR>>>< ;BR&g=
t;>>Rod=20
Lincoln =3D<BR>><BR>> =
wrote:<BR>>><BR>&a mp;gt;>>=20
they say 66/100/133<BR>>>> =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
Rod<BR>>>> EK Sound <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A'=
>mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A</=
A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>>>><BR&a mp;gt;>>>>Are these rated =
for=20
133?? I =3D<BR>>had a=3D20<BR>> similar problem with 66 =
trays=20
in=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >XP.<BR>>>>> ;<BR>>>>>David.&am p;=
lt;BR>>>>><BR& gt;=3D <BR>>>>>>Rod=3D20<BR=
>> =20
Lincoln =
wrote:<BR>>>>>& ;lt;BR>>>>>>I'm=20
building =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> computer for a friend to run =
cubase on.=20
Got=3D20<BR>> =20
=
everything<BR>>>>< BR>>>>=3D20 <BR>> =
=20
going<BR>>>><BR&am p;gt;>>>>>fine, EXCEPT =
the=20
mobile =3D<BR>>rack tray=3D20<BR>> (IDE) for the system=20
drive.<BR>>>>>& ;gt;Here's the history.=20
=3D<BR>>I=3D20<BR>> bought 2 of these on line (he wanted =
black,=20
so<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
I<BR>>>><BR> ;>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
had<BR>>>><BR& gt;>>>>>to go with a =
different=20
=3D<BR>>brand than I=3D20<BR>> normally use) neither one =
of=20
them<BR>>>><BR& ;gt;>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
worked<BR>>>><BR&a mp;gt;>>>>>I got "ERROR =
in=20
READING=3D20<BR>> DRIVE)<BR>>>>>& ;gt;on boot =
(this is=20
the system drive). It =3D<BR>>is on ide=3D20<BR>> bus 1 by =
itself=20
and<BR>>=20
is<BR>>>><BR&g t;>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
set<BR>>>><BR& gt;>>>>>properly with =
the=20
jumper =3D<BR>>for single=3D20<BR>> =20
master.<BR>>>>>&am p;gt;I already tried different ide=20
=3D<BR>>cables...no=3D20<BR>> worky, BUT, when I=20
=
switched<BR>>>><BR >>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
to<BR>>>><BR&g t;>>>>>a mobile rack =
that I=20
use, it =3D<BR>>worked=3D20<BR>> fine. So I figured it was =
just=3D20<BR>> =20
=
<BR>>>>>>cr appy<BR>>>>>&g t;racks. =
(mines =3D<BR>>beige and=3D20<BR>> this guy wants=20
black).<BR>>>>>&am p;gt;I went to comp usa and=20
=3D<BR>>bought=3D20<BR>> one of their "brand" black mobile =
=
=3D<BR> >drives<BR>>>>& ;lt;BR>>>>=3D20 <BR>>=
; =20
on<BR>>>><BR&g t;>>>>>a recomendation =
from a=20
=3D<BR>>friend and=3D20<BR>> get the same dang error =
again.=20
Now,<BR>>>><BR& ;gt;>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
it<BR>>>><BR&g t;>>>>>could be that =
this drive=20
=3D<BR>>from CRAP=3D20<BR>> USA is also bad, but I'm=20
starting<BR>>=20
=
=3D<BR> >to<BR>>>>< BR>>>>=3D20 <BR>>&nb=
sp;=20
wonder<BR>>>><BR&a mp;gt;>>>>>if something =
else is=20
=3D<BR>>going on=3D20<BR>> that I'm missing. I'll do some=20
more=3D20<BR>> =20
=
<BR>>>>>>tr oubleshooting<BR>>>>& gt;&g=
t;as=20
I =3D<BR>>get the=3D20<BR>> time, but I would welcome any =
suggestions=20
as to what=3D20<BR>> =20
may<BR>>>><BR& gt;>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
be<BR>>>><BR&g t;>>>>>another reason =
fkor=20
the=3D20<BR>> problem.<BR>>>>>&a mp;gt;I have a =
hard time=20
believing that this =3D<BR>>mobo=3D20<BR>> just doesn't =
like=20
"black" <BR>>>><BR> >>>=3D20 <BR>> =
=
=3D<BR> >rack<BR>>>>&l t;BR>>>>>>drives=
..<BR>>>>>& ;g=3D <BR> >t;Rod<BR>>>>& l=
t;BR>>>><BR>&g t;=3D20 <BR>> =20
=
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE& gt;</BODY></HTML> <BR>>=
<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_0254_01C5CB43.ADDA7630--This is a Cubase SX3 only comp, so no ME. He also REALLY wants a totally black
computer. To the point of when we were discussing CD/DVD writers, his only
concern was that it was BLACK. 80P'''''
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rod,
>I have removable SATAs in my comp. I wanted beige and got them.
>The second pair I purposely bought black to differentiate them.
>Sometimes it's a good thing. XP black, ME beige.?.
>Tom
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:4346ab89$1@linux...
>
> Yeah, I don't think that would fly anyway. I think I'll just put the =
>system
> drive in an internal bay and hook it up directly to the mobo...no =
>mobile
> rack. He'll never be changing it anyway.
> I was trying to give him the option to have an extra system drive to =
>pop
> in, in case of failure...since he's not a tech guy at all.
> Or I may paint it.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Yes but it STILL has to be black...
> >Tom
> > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4346957e@linux...
> > USB 2.0 External drive bay could be your answer.... they're cheap =
>too
> =3D
> >now.
> > AA
> >
> >
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:43455e37$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all =
>with
> =3D
> >the=3D20
> > > same
> > > results. I've tried CS. The results are still the same. The guy =
>is =3D
> >REALLY
> > > stuck on wanting the WHOLE computer black, or, I would just use =
>the
> =3D
> >beige
> > > drive that works.
> > > I may just put the sys drive in an internal bracket and slap the
=
>=3D
> >cover=3D20
> > > over
> > > the hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like
=
>to
> =3D
> >
> > > figure
> > > it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards and =
>letters =3D
> >coming.
> > >
> > > Rod
> > >
> > > EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> > >>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE cable? Try CS mode
=
>on
> > >>the drive to see if this helps also.
> > >>
> > >>David.
> > >>
> > >>Rod Lincoln wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> they say 66/100/133
> > >>> Rod
> > >>> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Are these rated for 133?? I had a similar problem with 66 trays
=
>in
> =3D
> >XP.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>David.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>I'm building a computer for a friend to run cubase on. Got =3D
> >everything
> > >>>
> > >>> going
> > >>>
> > >>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile rack tray (IDE) for the system drive.
> > >>>>>Here's the history. I bought 2 of these on line (he wanted =
>black,
> =3D
> >so
> > > I
> > >>>
> > >>> had
> > >>>
> > >>>>>to go with a different brand than I normally use) neither one
=
>of
> =3D
> >them
> > >>>
> > >>> worked
> > >>>
> > >>>>>I got "ERROR in READING DRIVE)
> > >>>>>on boot (this is the system drive). It is on ide bus 1 by =
>itself
> =3D
> >and
> > > is
> > >>>
> > >>> set
> > >>>
> > >>>>>properly with the jumper for single master.
> > >>>>>I already tried different ide cables...no worky, BUT, when I =
>=3D
> >switched
> > >>>
> > >>> to
> > >>>
> > >>>>>a mobile rack that I use, it worked fine. So I figured it was
=
>=3D
> >just=3D20
> > >>>>>crappy
> > >>>>>racks. (mines beige and this guy wants black).
> > >>>>>I went to comp usa and bought one of their "brand" black =
>mobile =3D
> >drives
> > >>>
> > >>> on
> > >>>
> > >>>>>a recomendation from a friend and get the same dang error =
>again.
> =3D
> >Now,
> > >>>
> > >>> it
> > >>>
> > >>>>>could be that this drive from CRAP USA is also bad, but I'm =
>=3D
> >starting
> > > to
> > >>>
> > >>> wonder
> > >>>
> > >>>>>if something else is going on that I'm missing. I'll do some =
>more
> =3D
> >
> > >>>>>troubleshooting
> > >>>>>as I get the time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to =
>what
> =3D
> >may
> > >>>
> > >>> be
> > >>>
> > >>>>>another reason fkor the problem.
> > >>>>>I have a hard time believing that this mobo just doesn't like
=
>=3D
> >"black"
> > >>>
> > >>> rack
> > >>>
> > >>>>>drives.
> > >>>>>Rod
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >=3D20
> >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yes but it STILL has to be =3D
> >black...</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
>=3D
> >wrote in=3D20
> > message <A =3D
> >href=3D3D"news:4346957e@linux">news:4346957e@linux</A>...</DIV>USB =
>2.0=3D20
> > External drive bay could be your answer.... they're cheap too=3D20
> > now.<BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >message=3D20
> > <A =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:43455e37$1@linux">news:43455e37$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all with
=
>=3D
> >the=3D20
> > <BR>> same<BR>> results. I've tried CS. The results are s
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #58844 is a reply to message #58843] |
Fri, 07 October 2005 13:37 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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till =3D
> >the same.=3D20
> > The guy is REALLY<BR>> stuck on wanting the WHOLE computer black, =
>=3D
> >or, I=3D20
> > would just use the beige<BR>> drive that works.<BR>> I may just =3D
> >put the=3D20
> > sys drive in an internal bracket and slap the cover <BR>> =3D
> >over<BR>> the=3D20
> > hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like to =
>=3D
> ><BR>>=3D20
> > figure<BR>> it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards
=
>=3D
> >and=3D20
> > letters coming.<BR>><BR>> Rod<BR>><BR>> EK Sound <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com<=
>/A>=3D
> >>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE =3D
> >cable? =3D20
> > Try CS mode on<BR>>>the drive to see if this helps=3D20
> > also.<BR>>><BR>>>David.<BR>>><BR>>>Rod Lincoln =3D
> >
> > wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> they say 66/100/133<BR>>>> =3D
> >
> > Rod<BR>>>> EK Sound <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com<=
>/A>=3D
> >>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Are these rated for 133?? I =3D
> >had a=3D20
> > similar problem with 66 trays in=3D20
> > =3D
> >XP.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>David.<BR>>>>><BR>=3D
> >>>>>Rod=3D20
> > Lincoln wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>I'm building =3D
> >a=3D20
> > computer for a friend to run cubase on. Got=3D20
> > everything<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > going<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile =3D
> >rack tray=3D20
> > (IDE) for the system drive.<BR>>>>>>Here's the history. =3D
> >I=3D20
> > bought 2 of these on line (he wanted black, so<BR>>=3D20
> > I<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > had<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>to go with a different =3D
> >brand than I=3D20
> > normally use) neither one of them<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > worked<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>I got "ERROR in READING=3D20
> > DRIVE)<BR>>>>>>on boot (this is the system drive). It =3D
> >is on ide=3D20
> > bus 1 by itself and<BR>> is<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > set<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>properly with the jumper =3D
> >for single=3D20
> > master.<BR>>>>>>I already tried different ide =3D
> >cables...no=3D20
> > worky, BUT, when I switched<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > to<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a mobile rack that I use, it =3D
> >worked=3D20
> > fine. So I figured it was just=3D20
> > <BR>>>>>>crappy<BR>>>>>>racks. (mines =3D
> >beige and=3D20
> > this guy wants black).<BR>>>>>>I went to comp usa and =3D
> >bought=3D20
> > one of their "brand" black mobile =3D
> >drives<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > on<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a recomendation from a =3D
> >friend and=3D20
> > get the same dang error again. Now,<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > it<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>could be that this drive =3D
> >from CRAP=3D20
> > USA is also bad, but I'm starting<BR>> =3D
> >to<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > wonder<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>if something else is =3D
> >going on=3D20
> > that I'm missing. I'll do some more=3D20
> > <BR>>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>>>>>>as I =3D
> >get the=3D20
> > time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to what=3D20
> > may<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > be<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>another reason fkor the=3D20
> > problem.<BR>>>>>>I have a hard time believing that this =3D
> >mobo=3D20
> > just doesn't like "black"<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > =3D
> >rack<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>drives.<BR>>>>>&g=3D
> >t;Rod<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>=3D20
> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have removable SATAs in my =
>comp. I wanted=20
>beige and got them.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The second pair I purposely bought =
>black to=20
>differentiate them.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sometimes it's a good thing. XP =
>black, ME=20
>beige.?.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:4346ab89$1@linux">news:4346ab89$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Yeah=
>, I=20
> don't think that would fly anyway. I think I'll just put the =
>system<BR>drive=20
> in an internal bay and hook it up directly to the mobo...no =
>mobile<BR>rack.=20
> He'll never be changing it anyway.<BR>I was trying to give him the =
>option to=20
> have an extra system drive to pop<BR>in, in case of failure...since =
>he's not a=20
> tech guy at all.<BR>Or I may paint it.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Yes but it STILL has to be=20
> black...<BR>>Tom<BR>> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message =3D<BR>>news:4346957e@linux...<BR>> USB 2.0 =
>External drive=20
> bay could be your answer.... they're cheap =
>too<BR>=3D<BR>>now.<BR>> =20
> AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:43455e37$1@linux...<BR>> ><BR>> =
>> Yeah,=20
> I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all=20
> with<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> > same<BR>> > =
>results.=20
> I've tried CS. The results are still the same. The guy is=20
> =3D<BR>>REALLY<BR>> > stuck on wanting the WHOLE =
>computer black,=20
> or, I would just use the<BR>=3D<BR>>beige<BR>> > drive =
>that=20
> works.<BR>> > I may just put the sys drive in an internal =
>bracket=20
> and slap the =3D<BR>>cover=3D20<BR>> > =
>over<BR>> > the=20
> hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like=20
> to<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> > figure<BR>> > it out. =
>I=20
> appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards and letters=20
> =3D<BR>>coming.<BR>> ><BR>> > =
>Rod<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > EK Sound <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >>Are you using a nice "short" high density =
>IDE=20
> cable? Try CS mode on<BR>> >>the drive to see if =
>this=20
> helps also.<BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>David.<BR>> =20
> >><BR>> >>Rod Lincoln wrote:<BR>> =20
> >><BR>> >>> they say 66/100/133<BR>> =20
> >>> Rod<BR>> >>> EK Sound <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>Are =
>these=20
> rated for 133?? I had a similar problem with 66 trays=20
> in<BR>=3D<BR>>XP.<BR>> >>>><BR>> =20
> >>>>David.<BR>> >>>><BR>> =20
> >>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:<BR>> =20
> >>>><BR>> >>>>>I'm building a =
>computer for=20
> a friend to run cubase on. Got =3D<BR>>everything<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> going<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile =
>rack=20
> tray (IDE) for the system drive.<BR>> =
>>>>>>Here's the=20
> history. I bought 2 of these on line (he wanted=20
> black,<BR>=3D<BR>>so<BR>> > I<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> had<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>>>to go with a different =
>brand=20
> than I normally use) neither one of<BR>=3D<BR>>them<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> worked<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>>>I got "ERROR in READING =
>
> DRIVE)<BR>> >>>>>on boot (this is the system =
>drive).=20
> It is on ide bus 1 by itself<BR>=3D<BR>>and<BR>> >=20
> is<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> =
>set<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>>>properly with the =
>jumper for=20
> single master.<BR>> >>>>>I already tried =
>different ide=20
> cables...no worky, BUT, when I =3D<BR>>switched<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> to<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>>>a mobile rack that I =
>use, it=20
> worked fine. So I figured it was =3D<BR>>just=3D20<BR>> =20
> >>>>>crappy<BR>> >>>>>racks. =
>(mines=20
> beige and this guy wants black).<BR>> >>>>>I =
>went to=20
> comp usa and bought one of their "brand" black mobile=20
> =3D<BR>>drives<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>>=20
> on<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>a=20
> recomendation from a friend and get the same dang error=20
> again.<BR>=3D<BR>>Now,<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>>=20
> it<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>could =
>be that=20
> this drive from CRAP USA is also bad, but I'm =
>=3D<BR>>starting<BR>> =20
> > to<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>=20
> wonder<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>if =
>
> something else is going on that I'm missing. I'll do some=20
> more<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> >>>>>troubleshooting<BR>> =
>>>>>>as I get=20
> the time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to=20
> what<BR>=3D<BR>>may<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>>=20
> be<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>>>>another reason=20
> fkor the problem.<BR>> >>>>>I have a hard time =
>
> believing that this mobo just doesn't like =
>=3D<BR>>"black"<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> rack<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>>>drives.<BR>> =20
> >>>>>Rod<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> =
>>=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Yes=20
> but it STILL has to be=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>black...</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000 2px=20
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Aaron Allen"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A'>mailto:nosp=
>am@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message <A =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4346957e@linux">news:4346957e@linux</A>...</DIV>USB'>news:43=
>46957e@linux">news:4346957e@linux</A>...</DIV>USB</A>=20
> 2.0=3D20<BR>> External drive bay could be your answer.... =
>they're cheap=20
> too=3D20<BR>> =
>now.<BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"Rod=20
> Lincoln" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A'>mailto:rlincoln=
>@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43455e37$1@linux">news:43455e37$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>g'>news:43455e37$1@linux">news:43455e37$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all with=20
> =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> <BR>> same<BR>> =
>results. I've=20
> tried CS. The results are still =3D<BR>>the =
>same.=3D20<BR>> The guy is=20
> REALLY<BR>> stuck on wanting the WHOLE computer black, =
>=3D<BR>>or,=20
> I=3D20<BR>> would just use the beige<BR>> drive that =
>
> works.<BR>> I may just =3D<BR>>put the=3D20<BR>> =
>sys drive in=20
> an internal bracket and slap the cover <BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>over<BR>> the=3D20<BR>> hole and call it =
>good, but=20
> this kind of bugs me, and I'd like to =
>=3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> figure<BR>> it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those =
>cards=20
> =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> letters =
>coming.<BR>><BR>>=20
> Rod<BR>><BR>> EK Sound <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A'=
>>mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A</=
>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote:<BR>>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE=20
> =3D<BR>>cable? =3D20<BR>> Try CS mode =
>on<BR>>>the drive to=20
> see if this helps=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>also.<BR>>><BR>>>David.<BR>>><BR&g=
>t;>>Rod=20
> Lincoln =3D<BR>><BR>> =
>wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>>=20
> they say 66/100/133<BR>>>> =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> Rod<BR>>>> EK Sound <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A'=
>>mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A</=
>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Are these rated =
>for=20
> 133?? I =3D<BR>>had a=3D20<BR>> similar problem with 66 =
>trays=20
> in=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>XP.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>David.&=
>lt;BR>>>>><BR>=3D<BR>>>>>>Rod=3D20<BR=
>>> =20
> Lincoln =
>wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>I'm=20
> building =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> computer for a friend to run =
>cubase on.=20
> Got=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>everything<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =
>=20
> going<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>fine, EXCEPT =
>the=20
> mobile =3D<BR>>rack tray=3D20<BR>> (IDE) for the system=20
> drive.<BR>>>>>>Here's the history.=20
> =3D<BR>>I=3D20<BR>> bought 2 of these on line (he wanted =
>black,=20
> so<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> I<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> had<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>to go with a =
>different=20
> =3D<BR>>brand than I=3D20<BR>> normally use) neither one =
>of=20
> them<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> worked<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>I got "ERROR =
>in=20
> READING=3D20<BR>> DRIVE)<BR>>>>>>on boot =
>(this is=20
> the system drive). It =3D<BR>>is on ide=3D20<BR>> bus 1 by =
>itself=20
> and<BR>>=20
> is<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> set<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>properly with =
>the=20
> jumper =3D<BR>>for single=3D20<BR>> =20
> master.<BR>>>>>>I already tried different ide=20
> =3D<BR>>cables...no=3D20<BR>> worky, BUT, when I=20
> =
>switched<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> to<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a mobile rack =
>that I=20
> use, it =3D<BR>>worked=3D20<BR>> fine. So I figured it was =
>
> just=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
><BR>>>>>>crappy<BR>>>>>>racks. =
>
> (mines =3D<BR>>beige and=3D20<BR>> this guy wants=20
> black).<BR>>>>>>I went to comp usa and=20
> =3D<BR>>bought=3D20<BR>> one of their "brand" black mobile =
>
> =
>=3D<BR>>drives<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>>=
>; =20
> on<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a recomendation =
>from a=20
> =3D<BR>>friend and=3D20<BR>> get the same dang error =
>again.=20
> Now,<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> it<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>could be that =
>this drive=20
> =3D<BR>>from CRAP=3D20<BR>> USA is also bad, but I'm=20
> starting<BR>>=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>to<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>>&nb=
>sp;=20
> wonder<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>if something =
>else is=20
> =3D<BR>>going on=3D20<BR>> that I'm missing. I'll do some=20
> more=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
><BR>>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>>>>>&g=
>t;as=20
> I =3D<BR>>get the=3D20<BR>> time, but I would welcome any =
>suggestions=20
> as to what=3D20<BR>> =20
> may<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> be<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>another reason =
>fkor=20
> the=3D20<BR>> problem.<BR>>>>>>I have a =
>hard time=20
> believing that this =3D<BR>>mobo=3D20<BR>> just doesn't =
>like=20
> "black"<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =
>
> =
>=3D<BR>>rack<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>drives=
>.<BR>>>>>&g=3D<BR>>t;Rod<BR>>>>&l=
>t;BR>>>><BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>Thanks!
Rod
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>Rod, I have sent it to you...
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:43468f5e$1@linux...
>>
>> D..where's the 4 slot free version? I can't find it.
>> Rod
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >I don't know if anyone has come up to this but the free FFX4 DX chainer
>> or
>> >the commercial buy of FFX16 can load the UAD plugins with VU indications
>> and
>> >Preset handling.
>> >The latency is 4096 for a normal UAD plugin instance.
>> >Regards,
>> >Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Here is my method.
Use chainer on the channels you are sending to reverb (here I use Plate140
(ok I just got the demo playing) )
So on track 1 I use kick with chainer and then inside chainer senderella1 as
send
Track 2 is snare again I put chainer and then inside senderella1 as send
again.
I use the desired amount in sending from inside senderella.
Then on tracks 15 and 16 ( i chose those because they are last and more easy
to figure out and also senderella sending must always be before senderella
receiving.
I put there 16 bit mono Paf silenced files.
I open as stereo chainer on track 15 (on par with 16) and put inside
senderella1 as return.
Then I put UAD1 Plate140.
Now I choose two things to do :
1) I either use from inside chainer the free multifxvst which lowers UAD
latency to 2048 samples which is almost adequate for vocal reverb because
you need some 40ms predelay.
If that is too much I then do this nice trick !
2) I put after senderella1 send on each track (kick and snare here) the
voxengo sampledelay for 2048 if I use multifx, if I just use chainer then
4096 or more for effect.
The trick is to put on every other track (without chainer if not needed) the
sample delay to delay the rest of the tracks for 2048 or 4096
NOTE : I have wrapped chainer from Spinaudio to have the 4096 lower latency
and have all VU and buttons working.
Note that Spinaudio is free for one plugin so you can wrap only Chainer ...
If you don't have chainer and don't wanna mess with all that stuff here is a
workaround.
On track 1 (kick) you put senderella1wrapped from Spinaudiofree. On track
2 senderella 1 again , both tracks as sends with desired amount of volume.
On tracks 15 and 16 you put as stereo file the Spinaudiowrapped Senderella1
as return and then on second Paris slot as stereo the free FFX4 (DX
chainer)
This gives again the 4096 sample latency for UAD plugins and you load there
your UAD reverb
Thus you have the above again situation.
NOTE :
YOU MUST USE EDSTransfer 8,16 for senderella to work.
Regards,
DimitriosHere is my method if you don't have or want to buy chainer.
On track 1 (kick) you put senderella1 wrapped from Spinaudiofree. On track
2 senderella 1 again , both tracks as sends with desired amount of volume.
Don't fprget to redirct on snderella when sending in order not to have
double hits.
On tracks 15 and 16 you put as stereo file the Spinaudiowrapped Senderella1
as return and then on second Paris slot as stereo the free FFX4 (DX
chainer)
This gives again the 4096 sample latency for UAD plugins and you load there
your UAD reverb
I put there 16 bit mono Paf silenced files.
NOTE :
YOU MUST USE EDSTransfer 8,16 for senderella to work.
Regards,
DimitriosNow to compensate for the 4096 samples delay you do the following.
Put on each track (tracks 1 and 2 (kick-snare) voxengo FREE sample delay for
4096 samples latency.
Now all tracks are delayed except for the revrbed ones because the
senderella is sending BEFORE voxengo .
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4346dfe8@linux...
> Here is my method if you don't have or want to buy chainer.
>
> On track 1 (kick) you put senderella1 wrapped from Spinaudiofree. On
track
> 2 senderella 1 again , both tracks as sends with desired amount of volume.
> Don't fprget to redirct on snderella when sending in order not to have
> double hits.
>
> On tracks 15 and 16 you put as stereo file the Spinaudiowrapped
Senderella1
> as return and then on second Paris slot as stereo the free FFX4 (DX
> chainer)
> This gives again the 4096 sample latency for UAD plugins and you load
there
> your UAD reverb
>
> I put there 16 bit mono Paf silenced files.
>
>
> NOTE :
> YOU MUST USE EDSTransfer 8,16 for senderella to work.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>NP
Dimitrios
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4346dc9b$1@linux...
>
> Thanks!
> Rod
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >Rod, I have sent it to you...
> >Regards,
> >Dimitrios
> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:43468f5e$1@linux...
> >>
> >> D..where's the 4 slot free version? I can't find it.
> >> Rod
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >I don't know if anyone has come up to this but the free FFX4 DX
chainer
> >> or
> >> >the commercial buy of FFX16 can load the UAD plugins with VU
indications
> >> and
> >> >Preset handling.
> >> >The latency is 4096 for a normal UAD plugin instance.
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Dimitrios
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Are any Mac users using uad3.8 with paris 3.0?
Thanks,Eugene.
Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote:
>Ow! Thanks for the warning!
>
>Gantt
>
>Matt wrote:
>
>> in article 4342fc5d$1@linux, Eugene B at martinlancer@hotmail.com wrote
on
>> 10/4/05 3:04 PM:
>>
>> >
>> > Any mac users using uad 3.9 with paris 3.0?
>> > I'm using uad 3.41 but don't want to run into
>> > unexpeced problems as i am just finishing up
>> > a 12 song project in paris.
>>
>> 3.9 worked for me until I tried to render to disk with fx, then it crash
my
>> system every time. I'm using 3.7 with out any problems.
>I'm on the road gigging this weekend Eugene, but I'll try to remember to
check my UAD-1 version number when I get back home. I want to say I'm
running either 3.8 or 3.7. I should know this stuff off the top of my head,
but alas. . .
Tony
"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4346ee84$1@linux...
>
> Are any Mac users using uad3.8 with paris 3.0?
> Thanks,Eugene.
>
>
>
> Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote:
>>Ow! Thanks for the warning!
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>Matt wrote:
>>
>>> in article 4342fc5d$1@linux, Eugene B at martinlancer@hotmail.com wrote
> on
>>> 10/4/05 3:04 PM:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Any mac users using uad 3.9 with paris 3.0?
>>> > I'm using uad 3.41 but don't want to run into
>>> > unexpeced problems as i am just finishing up
>>> > a 12 song project in paris.
>>>
>>> 3.9 worked for me until I tried to render to disk with fx, then it crash
> my
>>> system every time. I'm using 3.7 with out any problems.
>>
>One way to know if you are running uad3.8 is that 3.8
software rev. includes the precision eq.
Thanks. Eugene.
"Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote:
>I'm on the road gigging this weekend Eugene, but I'll try to remember to
>check my UAD-1 version number when I get back home. I want to say I'm
>running either 3.8 or 3.7. I should know this stuff off the top of my head,
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| Re: OT: Mobile rack tray wierdness.....ideas????? [message #59146 is a reply to message #58844] |
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Deej [1]
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> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >=3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=3D20
> > > href=3D3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
> >=3D
> > >wrote in=3D20
> > > message <A =3D
> > >href=3D3D"news:4346957e@linux">news:4346957e@linux</A>...</DIV>USB =
> >2.0=3D20
> > > External drive bay could be your answer.... they're cheap too=3D20
> > > now.<BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > > href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A>> wrote
> =
> >in =3D
> > >message=3D20
> > > <A =3D
> > =
>
>>href=3D3D"news:43455e37$1@linux">news:43455e37$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
> >=3D
> > >t;=3D20
> > > Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all with
> =
> >=3D
> > >the=3D20
> > > <BR>> same<BR>> results. I've tried CS. The results are still =3D
> > >the same.=3D20
> > > The guy is REALLY<BR>> stuck on wanting the WHOLE computer black, =
> >=3D
> > >or, I=3D20
> > > would just use the beige<BR>> drive that works.<BR>> I may just =3D
> > >put the=3D20
> > > sys drive in an internal bracket and slap the cover <BR>> =3D
> > >over<BR>> the=3D20
> > > hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like to =
> >=3D
> > ><BR>>=3D20
> > > figure<BR>> it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards
> =
> >=3D
> > >and=3D20
> > > letters coming.<BR>><BR>> Rod<BR>><BR>> EK Sound <<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>
>>href=3D3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com<=
> >/A>=3D
> > >>=3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE =3D
> > >cable? =3D20
> > > Try CS mode on<BR>>>the drive to see if this helps=3D20
> > > also.<BR>>><BR>>>David.<BR>>><BR>>>Rod Lincoln =3D
> > >
> > > wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> they say 66/100/133<BR>>>> =3D
> > >
> > > Rod<BR>>>> EK Sound <<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>
>>href=3D3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com<=
> >/A>=3D
> > >>=3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Are these rated for 133?? I =3D
> > >had a=3D20
> > > similar problem with 66 trays in=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >XP.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>David.<BR>>>>><BR>=3D
> > >>>>>Rod=3D20
> > > Lincoln wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>I'm building =3D
> > >a=3D20
> > > computer for a friend to run cubase on. Got=3D20
> > > everything<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > going<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile =3D
> > >rack tray=3D20
> > > (IDE) for the system drive.<BR>>>>>>Here's the history. =3D
> > >I=3D20
> > > bought 2 of these on line (he wanted black, so<BR>>=3D20
> > > I<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > had<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>to go with a different =3D
> > >brand than I=3D20
> > > normally use) neither one of them<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > worked<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>I got "ERROR in READING=3D20
> > > DRIVE)<BR>>>>>>on boot (this is the system drive). It =3D
> > >is on ide=3D20
> > > bus 1 by itself and<BR>> is<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > set<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>properly with the jumper =3D
> > >for single=3D20
> > > master.<BR>>>>>>I already tried different ide =3D
> > >cables...no=3D20
> > > worky, BUT, when I switched<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > to<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a mobile rack that I use, it =3D
> > >worked=3D20
> > > fine. So I figured it was just=3D20
> > > <BR>>>>>>crappy<BR>>>>>>racks. (mines =3D
> > >beige and=3D20
> > > this guy wants black).<BR>>>>>>I went to comp usa and =3D
> > >bought=3D20
> > > one of their "brand" black mobile =3D
> > >drives<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > on<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a recomendation from a =3D
> > >friend and=3D20
> > > get the same dang error again. Now,<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > it<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>could be that this drive =3D
> > >from CRAP=3D20
> > > USA is also bad, but I'm starting<BR>> =3D
> > >to<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > wonder<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>if something else is =3D
> > >going on=3D20
> > > that I'm missing. I'll do some more=3D20
> > > <BR>>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>>>>>>as I =3D
> > >get the=3D20
> > > time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to what=3D20
> > > may<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > be<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>another reason fkor the=3D20
> > > problem.<BR>>>>>>I have a hard time believing that this =3D
> > >mobo=3D20
> > > just doesn't like "black"<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >rack<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>drives.<BR>>>>>&g=3D
> > >t;Rod<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>=3D20
> > > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have removable SATAs in my =
> >comp. I wanted=20
> >beige and got them.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The second pair I purposely bought =
> >black to=20
> >differentiate them.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sometimes it's a good thing. XP =
> >black, ME=20
> >beige.?.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
> >t;=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"news:4346ab89$1@linux">news:4346ab89$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Yeah=
> >, I=20
> > don't think that would fly anyway. I think I'll just put the =
> >system<BR>drive=20
> > in an internal bay and hook it up directly to the mobo...no =
> >mobile<BR>rack.=20
> > He'll never be changing it anyway.<BR>I was trying to give him the =
> >option to=20
> > have an extra system drive to pop<BR>in, in case of failure...since =
> >he's not a=20
> > tech guy at all.<BR>Or I may paint it.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Yes but it STILL has to be=20
> > black...<BR>>Tom<BR>> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
> >wrote in=20
> > message =3D<BR>>news:4346957e@linux...<BR>> USB 2.0 =
> >External drive=20
> > bay could be your answer.... they're cheap =
> >too<BR>=3D<BR>>now.<BR>> =20
> > AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A>> wrote in =
> >message=20
> > =3D<BR>>news:43455e37$1@linux...<BR>> ><BR>> =
> >> Yeah,=20
> > I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all=20
> > with<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> > same<BR>> > =
> >results.=20
> > I've tried CS. The results are still the same. The guy is=20
> > =3D<BR>>REALLY<BR>> > stuck on wanting the WHOLE =
> >computer black,=20
> > or, I would just use the<BR>=3D<BR>>beige<BR>> > drive =
> >that=20
> > works.<BR>> > I may just put the sys drive in an internal =
> >bracket=20
> > and slap the =3D<BR>>cover=3D20<BR>> > =
> >over<BR>> > the=20
> > hole and call it good, but this kind of bugs me, and I'd like=20
> > to<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> > figure<BR>> > it out. =
> >I=20
> > appreciate the suggestions. Keep those cards and letters=20
> > =3D<BR>>coming.<BR>> ><BR>> > =
> >Rod<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> > EK Sound <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
> >>=20
> > wrote:<BR>> >>Are you using a nice "short" high density =
> >IDE=20
> > cable? Try CS mode on<BR>> >>the drive to see if =
> >this=20
> > helps also.<BR>> >><BR>> =
> >>>David.<BR>> =20
> > >><BR>> >>Rod Lincoln wrote:<BR>> =20
> > >><BR>> >>> they say 66/100/133<BR>> =20
> > >>> Rod<BR>> >>> EK Sound <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
> >>=20
> > wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>Are =
> >these=20
> > rated for 133?? I had a similar problem with 66 trays=20
> > in<BR>=3D<BR>>XP.<BR>> >>>><BR>> =20
> > >>>>David.<BR>> >>>><BR>> =20
> > >>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:<BR>> =20
> > >>>><BR>> >>>>>I'm building a =
> >computer for=20
> > a friend to run cubase on. Got =3D<BR>>everything<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>> going<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>>>>fine, EXCEPT the mobile =
> >rack=20
> > tray (IDE) for the system drive.<BR>> =
> >>>>>>Here's the=20
> > history. I bought 2 of these on line (he wanted=20
> > black,<BR>=3D<BR>>so<BR>> > I<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>> had<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>>>>to go with a different =
> >brand=20
> > than I normally use) neither one of<BR>=3D<BR>>them<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>> worked<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>>>>I got "ERROR in READING =
> >
> > DRIVE)<BR>> >>>>>on boot (this is the system =
> >drive).=20
> > It is on ide bus 1 by itself<BR>=3D<BR>>and<BR>> >=20
> > is<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> =
> >set<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>>>>properly with the =
> >jumper for=20
> > single master.<BR>> >>>>>I already tried =
> >different ide=20
> > cables...no worky, BUT, when I =3D<BR>>switched<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>> to<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>>>>a mobile rack that I =
> >use, it=20
> > worked fine. So I figured it was =3D<BR>>just=3D20<BR>> =20
> > >>>>>crappy<BR>> >>>>>racks. =
> >(mines=20
> > beige and this guy wants black).<BR>> >>>>>I =
> >went to=20
> > comp usa and bought one of their "brand" black mobile=20
> > =3D<BR>>drives<BR>> >>><BR>> =
> >>>>=20
> > on<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>a=20
> > recomendation from a friend and get the same dang error=20
> > again.<BR>=3D<BR>>Now,<BR>> >>><BR>> =
> >>>>=20
> > it<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>could =
> >be that=20
> > this drive from CRAP USA is also bad, but I'm =
> >=3D<BR>>starting<BR>> =20
> > > to<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>=20
> > wonder<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>>>if =
> >
> > something else is going on that I'm missing. I'll do some=20
> > more<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> > >>>>>troubleshooting<BR>> =
> >>>>>>as I get=20
> > the time, but I would welcome any suggestions as to=20
> > what<BR>=3D<BR>>may<BR>> >>><BR>> =
> >>>>=20
> > be<BR>> >>><BR>> =
> >>>>>>another reason=20
> > fkor the problem.<BR>> >>>>>I have a hard time =
> >
> > believing that this mobo just doesn't like =
> >=3D<BR>>"black"<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>> rack<BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> >>>>>drives.<BR>> =20
> > >>>>>Rod<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
> > >>><BR>> =
> >>=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
> > HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > =
> >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
> >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Yes=20
> > but it STILL has to be=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>black...</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial=20
> > =
> >size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
> >#000000 2px=20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Aaron Allen"=20
> > <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D'mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A'>mailto:nosp=
> >am@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A</A>>>=20
> > =3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message <A =
> >=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D'news:4346957e@linux">news:4346957e@linux</A>...</DIV>USB'>news:43=
> >46957e@linux">news:4346957e@linux</A>...</DIV>USB</A>=20
> > 2.0=3D20<BR>> External drive bay could be your answer.... =
> >they're cheap=20
> > too=3D20<BR>> =
> >now.<BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"Rod=20
> > Lincoln" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A'>mailto:rlincoln=
> >@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A</A>>>=20
> > wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
> >=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'news:43455e37$1@linux">news:43455e37$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
> >g'>news:43455e37$1@linux">news:43455e37$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
> >><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> > Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all with=20
> > =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> <BR>> same<BR>> =
> >results. I've=20
> > tried CS. The results are still =3D<BR>>the =
> >same.=3D20<BR>> The guy is=20
> > REALLY<BR>> stuck on wanting the WHOLE computer black, =
> >=3D<BR>>or,=20
> > I=3D20<BR>> would just use the beige<BR>> drive that =
> >
> > works.<BR>> I may just =3D<BR>>put the=3D20<BR>> =
> >sys drive in=20
> > an internal bracket and slap the cover <BR>>=20
> > =3D<BR>>over<BR>> the=3D20<BR>> hole and call it =
> >good, but=20
> > this kind of bugs me, and I'd like to =
> >=3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > figure<BR>> it out. I appreciate the suggestions. Keep those =
> >cards=20
> > =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> letters =
> >coming.<BR>><BR>>=20
> > Rod<BR>><BR>> EK Sound <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D'mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A'=
> >>mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A</=
> >A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > wrote:<BR>>>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE=20
> > =3D<BR>>cable? =3D20<BR>> Try CS mode =
> >on<BR>>>the drive to=20
> > see if this helps=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >also.<BR>>><BR>>>David.<BR>>><BR&g=
> >t;>>Rod=20
> > Lincoln =3D<BR>><BR>> =
> >wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>>=20
> > they say 66/100/133<BR>>>> =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> > Rod<BR>>>> EK Sound <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D'mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A'=
> >>mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A</=
> >A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Are these rated =
> >for=20
> > 133?? I =3D<BR>>had a=3D20<BR>> similar problem with 66 =
> >trays=20
> > in=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>XP.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>David.&=
> >lt;BR>>>>><BR>=3D<BR>>>>>>Rod=3D20<BR=
> >>> =20
> > Lincoln =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>I'm=20
> > building =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> computer for a friend to run =
> >cubase on.=20
> > Got=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >everything<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =
> >=20
> > going<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>fine, EXCEPT =
> >the=20
> > mobile =3D<BR>>rack tray=3D20<BR>> (IDE) for the system=20
> > drive.<BR>>>>>>Here's the history.=20
> > =3D<BR>>I=3D20<BR>> bought 2 of these on line (he wanted =
> >black,=20
> > so<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > I<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > had<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>to go with a =
> >different=20
> > =3D<BR>>brand than I=3D20<BR>> normally use) neither one =
> >of=20
> > them<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > worked<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>I got "ERROR =
> >in=20
> > READING=3D20<BR>> DRIVE)<BR>>>>>>on boot =
> >(this is=20
> > the system drive). It =3D<BR>>is on ide=3D20<BR>> bus 1 by =
> >itself=20
> > and<BR>>=20
> > is<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > set<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>properly with =
> >the=20
> > jumper =3D<BR>>for single=3D20<BR>> =20
> > master.<BR>>>>>>I already tried different ide=20
> > =3D<BR>>cables...no=3D20<BR>> worky, BUT, when I=20
> > =
> >switched<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > to<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a mobile rack =
> >that I=20
> > use, it =3D<BR>>worked=3D20<BR>> fine. So I figured it was =
> >
> > just=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>crappy<BR>>>>>>racks. =
> >
> > (mines =3D<BR>>beige and=3D20<BR>> this guy wants=20
> > black).<BR>>>>>>I went to comp usa and=20
> > =3D<BR>>bought=3D20<BR>> one of their "brand" black mobile =
> >
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>drives<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>>=
> >; =20
> > on<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>a recomendation =
> >from a=20
> > =3D<BR>>friend and=3D20<BR>> get the same dang error =
> >again.=20
> > Now,<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > it<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>could be that =
> >this drive=20
> > =3D<BR>>from CRAP=3D20<BR>> USA is also bad, but I'm=20
> > starting<BR>>=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>to<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>>&nb=
> >sp;=20
> > wonder<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>if something =
> >else is=20
> > =3D<BR>>going on=3D20<BR>> that I'm missing. I'll do some=20
> > more=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>troubleshooting<BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;as=20
> > I =3D<BR>>get the=3D20<BR>> time, but I would welcome any =
> >suggestions=20
> > as to what=3D20<BR>> =20
> > may<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > be<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>another reason =
> >fkor=20
> > the=3D20<BR>> problem.<BR>>>>>>I have a =
> >hard time=20
> > believing that this =3D<BR>>mobo=3D20<BR>> just doesn't =
> >like=20
> > "black"<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =
> >
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>rack<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>drives=
> >.<BR>>>>>&g=3D<BR>>t;Rod<BR>>>>&l=
> >t;BR>>>><BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> ><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
> ><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
> You mean just turn it off?
If you can, yeah, try it... I've used one of those MS-16's, but
it was literally almost two decades ago and I can't recall if
it had a hard-bypass on the NR or not (I'm not a big fan of
that dbx NR on those decks - it really lends a certain
unmistakable characteristic to the sound). In any event, if I
were you, I'd try taking an existing track in Paris & slamming
it to tape, then coming back in off the sync head (then nudging
backwards a bit if it needs to be aligned with the original),
and see what you get... good way to test to see if you like the
effect you'll get without having to cut a track specially for
that.
NeilThanks David, I thought I was going a little bonkers reading that last post.
the "sync" head is just that...sync..E/E
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:4352b18b@linux...
> This is actually incorrect. On a 3 head R-R machine, the Sel/Sync head
> (record head) and the Repro head (playback head) will produce different
> results. If you try to record to tape then play back with the Repro head,
> you *will* have a very noticeable delay based on tape speed and the
> distance between heads. During record, the electronics pass the input
> signal back to the output stage directly. The signal being output at that
> point has not been anywhere near the tape. Only recording in "Repro" mode
> will do this (with delay). The frequency response of the Repro head is
> also much better as it is optimised for playback, where the Sel/Sync head
> is optimised for recording. Also, the material would have to be
> transfered off the tape in less than 8 hours to keep the "sheen" of the
> analog recording. Past that point the smallest domains self align as a
> result of print-through, eliminating the highest frequencies from the
> recording.
>
> David.
>
> Dave Parkin wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> If you use the repro heads, the sound will go straight on-off tape
>> with
>> very little time delay. You can use one tape for an entire album this
>> way.
>> The repro heads stripe to tape, and send back to monitor post tape.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I wont really need to lock to Paris especially if I track a click
>>
>> to
>>
>>>the tape machine then use the same click in Paris I can visualy line up
>>
>> the
>>
>>>tracks to the click later. But in your method, if I undertand things
>>>correctly,
>>>you would not have gotten "tape compression" as you were just getting the
>>>electronic through put? Seems like you;d actually have to record. to get
>>>the tape "sound" or am I wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I used to do this with a TEAC 80-8. I wish I still had it. Latency
>>>>isn't
>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>>issue. The signal path through the components of the tape machine is
>>>>faster
>>>>than your A/D and D/A conversion so in all likelihood, you will have
>>>>around
>>>>1.2ms latency (the AD/DA latency in Paris).
>>>>
>>>>The way I did it was to patch the preamps directly to the deck, then
>>>>send
>>>>the returns to 8 paris inputs and record them. Sounded great. I also
>>>>striped
>>>>a smpte track to tape and sync'ed Paris to the deck using my old Opcode
>>>>Studio 64XTC. If you've got a box with this capability, you'd be goodto
>>>
>>>go
>>>
>>>>if you just wanted to lock Paris to the deck. I just didn't like losing
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>track to the stripe and actually it worked better, IMO, just to track
>>>>the
>>>>tape returns because I wasn't losing a generation every time I played
>>>>back
>>>>the tape afterwards.
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:43526a05$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>My old 1" 16 keeps staring at me from the corner of my control room.
>>>>>
>>>>>I keep wonderiing if I should be tracking drums and bass on it then
>>>>
>>>>bouncing
>>>>
>>>>>in to Paris..
>>>>>
>>>>>Is anyone else doing that here?
>>>>>
>>>>>My problem is my old board is gone. I would need to use Paris as a
>>>>>monitor
>>>>>portion of a console. I think I'd need to send my pre amps in to tape,
>>>>
>>>>open
>>>>
>>>>>a Paris project and send the outs of the tape machine there, and send
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>>>to the musicians as a monitor, I wonder if there will be too much
>>>>>latency
>>>>>and it would screw with perfomances. It seems like this should work
>>>>
>>>>though.
>>>>
>>>>>Then right after the take, roll it back, hit record on paris, and play
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>tape into paris.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rewind and record over that take for the next song.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does this sound like it's worth the effort?
>>>>
>>>>
>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Off the top of my head, I would say yes.
>You're processing 2 files, (dual mono), 2 plugins, as opposed to one stereo
>file and one plugin.
OK, I'll try re-doing some L/R tracks into stereo interleaved
tracks & report back if I notice a difference in CPU usage.
NeilInterestingly enough, I was shooting a story on an older producer (Peter
Dawkins), that was around in my days as a "music engineer", (24 tk Studers
and the like), who had to stop in the mid 80's due to Parkinson taking hold.
This guy was one of Australias top, (if not THE top), music engineers of the
time.
To make a long story short, he has come through the Parkinsons now, (ground
breaking surgery), and is back producing..in the digital realm, (and
enjoying it), but...he records the old way...multitracking
guitars..octaves..all the type of stuff we all did back in the 80's, without
the luxury of heaps of tracks and cut and paste.
He and Richard Lush , (Seargent Peppers and onwards at Abbey Road) along
with Peters son (to show the new way) are about to do some master classes
for younger engineers here in Sydney, and I bet they will be full the first
day of release.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:4352c328@linux...
Hi Gene,
A few comments back at ya...
gene lennon wrote:
> Hi Dave… a few comments.
> I think it is understood that you would use “Repro” mode to get the tape
> sound and that this will cause tape delay.
> You would NOT be using the sync head in this environment. You record using
> the record head and play back using the play head, so your comments about
> the frequency response of the sync mode are not germane.
I was replying to Dave Parkins comment of this:
"Howdy,
If you use the repro heads, the sound will go straight
on-off tape with very little time delay. You can use one
tape for an entire album this way. The repro heads stripe to
tape, and send back to monitor post tape.
Cheers"
Which was incorrect in its terminology of the tape heads...
hence the description I gave.
> As to your comment: “Also, the material would have to be transfered off
> the tape in less than
> 8 hours to keep the "sheen" of the analog recording.” This is correctly
> based on some truisms about tape. Tape will start to loose
> its top end after hundreds of plays or after long periods on the shelf,
> but
> your comment ignores th
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