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Re: A Little PARIS Research - Size of user community [message #99420 is a reply to message #99409] Fri, 04 July 2008 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Yeah, it could be a litle bigger. I know of two Paris users I'm in regular
contact with, that to my knowledge, have never posted on this sight. So I'm
thinking there might be a few more of us that post here that might have similar
contacts that just don't post. Probably not a large number, but then again,
maybe more than you might think. For example, if ther are 400 users world
wide, and 100 of them have 2 people they know of (like me) that have never
posted, that's 200 more users right there.
Or not, I don't know. just thinking.
Rod
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Hi folks. Hereıs one of a series of updates/info posts (and - brace
>yourselves - some action requests) which Iıll be putting in separate posts.
>
>Iıve been working on some basic infrastructure that I reckon we need to
>support any forward motion. Blog/wiki/networking/development rig are
>certainly part of that infrastructure but we also had a serious need for
>hard info - things like current community size and composition etc. If we
>want to tell outside developers who we are as a community, we better know
>who we are first, and I had the suspicion that my "spitball" guesstimates
>weren't doing us much justice.
>
>Now, Iım not trained in data collection and analysis but I do fine at
>research and detective work, and what I lack in skills I cheerfully
>supplement with grunt work. I wanted to share one of the results of that
>basic research with you all.
>
>Iıve seen the question ³how big is the PARIS community?² asked several times
>before. As far as I know we never got a definitive answer. We've now got
a
>fairly firm "floor" for the size of the current PARIS user community. It
>stands at an eye-opening (at least to me) 125 current users - and rising,
so
>if anything thatıs an undercount. Mike Audet and I have independently come
>to an estimate of the user community worldwide (including PARIS users who
>don't come to the NG) as being in the vicinity of a healthy 400 current
>users.
>
>Surprised? Not bad for eight years after discontinuation!
>
>Iıll be clear - this is not derived from the number of NG posters - itıs
>derived from a fairly accurate hand count of the number of currently active
>PARIS *users* that Iıve identified on the NG over the last ten months, and
>is distinct from the size of the NG community itself. We needed that info
>broken out separately because while some developments (say the ability to
>open PARIS .ppjs without a PARIS rig) might indeed be of interest to
>ex-PARIS users too (who might still retain archives in .ppj format), other
>developments (say drivers) would really only be of interest to those who
>still have and use PARIS hardware.
>
>To gather those numbers I ruled out the past approach of polls and censuses;
>theyıre useful for getting a ³general sense of the community² but theyıre
>unreliable. I simply scanned through the NG posts going back an arbitrary
>length of time (10 months) and noted every poster I could in that recent
>timespan who indicated that theyıre current users (self-identification,
>posting PARIS-specific tech support questions, specific error code
>questions, etc). I put the info in a database to sort it in different ways
>so I could pretty confidently eliminate duplicates. It was a bit
>labour-intensive but the end result is that Iım fairly confident in that
>number as a ³hard floor² ­ the loss of a few users in the intervening months
>would be counterbalanced by the certainty of undercount.
>
>Iıll finish with a general observation - ³what we were² or ³what we might
>once have been² has some minor academic/historical interest to me, but as
a
>"minority case" - a returning user after years of absence - I naturally
come
>to it from the perspective of ³where we are right now². Iım not interested
>in ³might have beens² any more - Iım interested in what we might achieve
>starting from here and going forward.
>
>So while it's true we were larger long ago, a hard floor of 125 real users
>is a good strong number, an excellent number, for aficionado-driven efforts
>for a discontinued niche market DAW to go forward with. Itıs much larger
>than some aficionado groups for other pieces of discontinued technology,
and
>some of those smaller groups have got quite a lot of very meaningful work
>done. And 400 users worldwide may not be Nuendo numbers but for small
>developers itıs nothing to sneeze at.
>
>Hope this is of interest!
>
>- Kerry
>

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