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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72108 is a reply to message #72106] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 16:29   |
Jamie K
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With Digi it's more like $100 and $1000 - ing.
Nickel and diming, isn't that when you rebuild and update your MSWindows
box every three to six months? ;^)
Apple, I dunno. At this point you should be able to get a couple of
years out of the investment at least. That's a fast enough box out of
the, uh, box. Just add a couple RAM sticks. It even has a removable HD
setup from the getgo, so swap out client drives as needed.
Of course there's the OSX update next year (full 64 bit) but at probably
be half the cost of the upcoming MSWindows update.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> Let's keep a running tally of how much nickel and diming goes on with Digi
> and Apple. In all seriousness though, I hope this is a cost effective
> solution to bringing you more clients.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Deej
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
>> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>
>> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>
>> I feel so dirty......
>>
>> David.
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72114 is a reply to message #72111] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 21:56 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
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Leave?? who said anything about... hey, wait a minute... you
folks aren't going to kick me out are you??? ;-)
The plan is to knock the Paris rig in the main studio down
to a 2 card, 2 MEC system, and roll it back to ME for ease
of adat I/O. The Nuendo machine will end up with the Magma
for the two 95652 cards and the UAD's. The HD rig will have
48 analog in (plus digital) and 24+ analog and digital outs.
The whole mess will be tied into the DM2K and I will be
able to route anything to anything... very DJ-esque, don't
you think? ;-) The DM also has a remote layer for ProTools,
so I should be able to toggle between controlling Nunedo and
Protools on the same session. One I get it running, I'll
post up some info on routing. I shouldn't have to turn away
anything work-wise by the time it's done.
The remaining Bundle III's (5 of them) will be spread around
the facility, keeping some stuff for spares.
Paris ain't goin' anywhere here!
David.
Chas. Duncan wrote:
> Good luck with that, young man...
>
> And: will the last person to leave the Paris Forum kindly turn off the
> lights?
>
> chas.
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:22:05 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
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>>After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>>we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>
>>We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>
>>I feel so dirty......
>>
>>David.
>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72116 is a reply to message #72108] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 22:25 |
Dedric Terry
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On 9/6/06 5:29 PM, in article 44ff5805$1@linux, "Jamie K"
<Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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> With Digi it's more like $100 and $1000 - ing.
Try saying hundreding quickly 3 times in a row...esp. after eating peanut
butter.
>
> Nickel and diming, isn't that when you rebuild and update your MSWindows
> box every three to six months? ;^)
LOL. Upgrade? Nah, except memory perhaps (that's what I keep forgetting to
do...hmm, kind of ironic). Build? About every 2 years usually for me at
least, which is about the same for most any computing platform, including my
brain, which is due for an update pretty soon. I need to be able to keep up
with my 5 yr old.
MacPro - isn't that an oxymoron? ...considering that you can make home
movies, and listen to music, and make photo albums....and make home movies,
and listen to music, and, and, ummm...and...umm...so it's a combo vcr/slide
projector/boombox! Yep, you see those in pro studios all the time. ;-)
Okay, sure, Windows machines can run time warping games ("What do you mean
it's Friday?!? I missed a week of work?!?!") and legal viruses, such as
Norton, MacAfee, etc. Everyone needs those. Like a broken leg.
David - best of luck with HD3, and you have our sympathies.
Hey if it gets clients and pays the bills, I say go for it and enjoy it.
Regards,
Dedric
>
> Apple, I dunno. At this point you should be able to get a couple of
> years out of the investment at least. That's a fast enough box out of
> the, uh, box. Just add a couple RAM sticks. It even has a removable HD
> setup from the getgo, so swap out client drives as needed.
>
> Of course there's the OSX update next year (full 64 bit) but at probably
> be half the cost of the upcoming MSWindows update.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Let's keep a running tally of how much nickel and diming goes on with Digi
>> and Apple. In all seriousness though, I hope this is a cost effective
>> solution to bringing you more clients.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
>>> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>>> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>
>>> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>
>>> I feel so dirty......
>>>
>>> David.
>>
>>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72117 is a reply to message #72116] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 00:16 |
Nei
Messages: 108
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LOL! good post, Dedric.
Neil
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>On 9/6/06 5:29 PM, in article 44ff5805$1@linux, "Jamie K"
><Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> With Digi it's more like $100 and $1000 - ing.
>
>Try saying hundreding quickly 3 times in a row...esp. after eating peanut
>butter.
>>
>> Nickel and diming, isn't that when you rebuild and update your MSWindows
>> box every three to six months? ;^)
>
>LOL. Upgrade? Nah, except memory perhaps (that's what I keep forgetting
to
>do...hmm, kind of ironic). Build? About every 2 years usually for me at
>least, which is about the same for most any computing platform, including
my
>brain, which is due for an update pretty soon. I need to be able to keep
up
>with my 5 yr old.
>
>MacPro - isn't that an oxymoron? ...considering that you can make home
>movies, and listen to music, and make photo albums....and make home movies,
>and listen to music, and, and, ummm...and...umm...so it's a combo vcr/slide
>projector/boombox! Yep, you see those in pro studios all the time. ;-)
>
>Okay, sure, Windows machines can run time warping games ("What do you mean
>it's Friday?!? I missed a week of work?!?!") and legal viruses, such as
>Norton, MacAfee, etc. Everyone needs those. Like a broken leg.
>
>David - best of luck with HD3, and you have our sympathies.
>
>Hey if it gets clients and pays the bills, I say go for it and enjoy it.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>>
>> Apple, I dunno. At this point you should be able to get a couple of
>> years out of the investment at least. That's a fast enough box out of
>> the, uh, box. Just add a couple RAM sticks. It even has a removable HD
>> setup from the getgo, so swap out client drives as needed.
>>
>> Of course there's the OSX update next year (full 64 bit) but at probably
>> be half the cost of the upcoming MSWindows update.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Let's keep a running tally of how much nickel and diming goes on with
Digi
>>> and Apple. In all seriousness though, I hope this is a cost effective
>>> solution to bringing you more clients.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
>>>> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>>>> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>>
>>>> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>>
>>>> I feel so dirty......
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72123 is a reply to message #72114] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 02:11 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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if they let me stay, they'll let anyone, so relax.
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:56:57 -0600, "Dave(EK Sound)"
<audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Leave?? who said anything about... hey, wait a minute... you
>folks aren't going to kick me out are you??? ;-)
>
>The plan is to knock the Paris rig in the main studio down
>to a 2 card, 2 MEC system, and roll it back to ME for ease
>of adat I/O. The Nuendo machine will end up with the Magma
>for the two 95652 cards and the UAD's. The HD rig will have
>48 analog in (plus digital) and 24+ analog and digital outs.
> The whole mess will be tied into the DM2K and I will be
>able to route anything to anything... very DJ-esque, don't
>you think? ;-) The DM also has a remote layer for ProTools,
>so I should be able to toggle between controlling Nunedo and
>Protools on the same session. One I get it running, I'll
>post up some info on routing. I shouldn't have to turn away
>anything work-wise by the time it's done.
>
>The remaining Bundle III's (5 of them) will be spread around
>the facility, keeping some stuff for spares.
>
>Paris ain't goin' anywhere here!
>
>David.
>
>Chas. Duncan wrote:
>> Good luck with that, young man...
>>
>> And: will the last person to leave the Paris Forum kindly turn off the
>> lights?
>>
>> chas.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:22:05 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>>>we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>
>>>We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>
>>>I feel so dirty......
>>>
>>>David.
>>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72129 is a reply to message #72114] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 05:24 |
Aaron Allen
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Do yourself a favor and use one MEC to take stems off the ProTools :)
AA
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:44ffa4f6@linux...
> Leave?? who said anything about... hey, wait a minute... you folks aren't
> going to kick me out are you??? ;-)
>
> The plan is to knock the Paris rig in the main studio down to a 2 card, 2
> MEC system, and roll it back to ME for ease of adat I/O. The Nuendo
> machine will end up with the Magma for the two 95652 cards and the UAD's.
> The HD rig will have 48 analog in (plus digital) and 24+ analog and
> digital outs. The whole mess will be tied into the DM2K and I will be able
> to route anything to anything... very DJ-esque, don't you think? ;-) The
> DM also has a remote layer for ProTools, so I should be able to toggle
> between controlling Nunedo and Protools on the same session. One I get it
> running, I'll post up some info on routing. I shouldn't have to turn away
> anything work-wise by the time it's done.
>
> The remaining Bundle III's (5 of them) will be spread around the facility,
> keeping some stuff for spares.
>
> Paris ain't goin' anywhere here!
>
> David.
>
> Chas. Duncan wrote:
>> Good luck with that, young man...
>>
>> And: will the last person to leave the Paris Forum kindly turn off the
>> lights?
>>
>> chas.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:22:05 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that we
>>>can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>
>>>We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>
>>>I feel so dirty......
>>>
>>>David.
>>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72138 is a reply to message #72129] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 08:01 |
EK Sound
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That's what the TWO MEC's are for! :-)
David.
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Do yourself a favor and use one MEC to take stems off the ProTools :)
>
> AA
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:44ffa4f6@linux...
>
>>Leave?? who said anything about... hey, wait a minute... you folks aren't
>>going to kick me out are you??? ;-)
>>
>>The plan is to knock the Paris rig in the main studio down to a 2 card, 2
>>MEC system, and roll it back to ME for ease of adat I/O. The Nuendo
>>machine will end up with the Magma for the two 95652 cards and the UAD's.
>>The HD rig will have 48 analog in (plus digital) and 24+ analog and
>>digital outs. The whole mess will be tied into the DM2K and I will be able
>>to route anything to anything... very DJ-esque, don't you think? ;-) The
>>DM also has a remote layer for ProTools, so I should be able to toggle
>>between controlling Nunedo and Protools on the same session. One I get it
>>running, I'll post up some info on routing. I shouldn't have to turn away
>>anything work-wise by the time it's done.
>>
>>The remaining Bundle III's (5 of them) will be spread around the facility,
>>keeping some stuff for spares.
>>
>>Paris ain't goin' anywhere here!
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Chas. Duncan wrote:
>>
>>>Good luck with that, young man...
>>>
>>>And: will the last person to leave the Paris Forum kindly turn off the
>>>lights?
>>>
>>>chas.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:22:05 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that we
>>>>can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>>
>>>>We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>>
>>>>I feel so dirty......
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>
>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72140 is a reply to message #72116] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 08:50 |
Jamie K
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Dedric Terry wrote:
> On 9/6/06 5:29 PM, in article 44ff5805$1@linux, "Jamie K"
> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>> With Digi it's more like $100 and $1000 - ing.
>
> Try saying hundreding quickly 3 times in a row...esp. after eating peanut
> butter.
Heh.
>> Nickel and diming, isn't that when you rebuild and update your MSWindows
>> box every three to six months? ;^)
>
> LOL. Upgrade? Nah, except memory perhaps (that's what I keep forgetting to
> do...hmm, kind of ironic). Build? About every 2 years usually for me at
> least, which is about the same for most any computing platform, including my
You and Deej live in different worlds. :^)
> brain, which is due for an update pretty soon. I need to be able to keep up
> with my 5 yr old.
Good luck with that! Your choice of computer platform won't help you
there...
> MacPro - isn't that an oxymoron? ...considering that you can make home
> movies, and listen to music, and make photo albums....and make home movies,
> and listen to music, and, and, ummm...and...umm...so it's a combo vcr/slide
> projector/boombox! Yep, you see those in pro studios all the time. ;-)
The use of "Pro" or "Professional" in a product name always struck me as
too obvious. Bang them over the head with it!
The "P" in PARIS stands for Professional. That's bad enough, but then
came PARIS Pro. Yikes, redundantly obvious. If you can't continue to
develop a product, stick another "Pro" on the end.
Maybe we'll yet see an upgrade to "PARIS Pro Professional," which will
be the same but red.
The Mac Pro it's more likely to be bought for professional use than the
other Mac models based on features and price. But I still like
"PowerMac" better as a name. Mmmm, POWER!
My PowerMac is a combination slide rule/sandwich maker. Deej's
Frankenbox is a combination easy bake oven/time soak. Your box sounds
like a combination back scratcher/contemplater. We all get what we want,
want a sandwich?
> Okay, sure, Windows machines can run time warping games ("What do you mean
> it's Friday?!? I missed a week of work?!?!") and legal viruses, such as
> Norton, MacAfee, etc. Everyone needs those. Like a broken leg.
Heh. What a racket, eh?
> David - best of luck with HD3, and you have our sympathies.
On the plus side, ProTools is better now than it was when PARIS was
young. But so are some other worthy choices.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> Hey if it gets clients and pays the bills, I say go for it and enjoy it.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
>> Apple, I dunno. At this point you should be able to get a couple of
>> years out of the investment at least. That's a fast enough box out of
>> the, uh, box. Just add a couple RAM sticks. It even has a removable HD
>> setup from the getgo, so swap out client drives as needed.
>>
>> Of course there's the OSX update next year (full 64 bit) but at probably
>> be half the cost of the upcoming MSWindows update.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Let's keep a running tally of how much nickel and diming goes on with Digi
>>> and Apple. In all seriousness though, I hope this is a cost effective
>>> solution to bringing you more clients.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
>>>> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>>>> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>>
>>>> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>>
>>>> I feel so dirty......
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>
>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72143 is a reply to message #72114] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 10:21 |
duncan
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Sounds like a lot of good choices, actually... Paris will probably
still find a way to make itself useful within all that flexibility you
have there...
It should be interesting to see your report on how this all comes
together -- looking forward to that... Good luck with it, and keep us
posted...
Chas (not going anywhere near the lightswitch myself)
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:56:57 -0600, "Dave(EK Sound)"
<audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Leave?? who said anything about... hey, wait a minute... you
>folks aren't going to kick me out are you??? ;-)
>
>The plan is to knock the Paris rig in the main studio down
>to a 2 card, 2 MEC system, and roll it back to ME for ease
>of adat I/O. The Nuendo machine will end up with the Magma
>for the two 95652 cards and the UAD's. The HD rig will have
>48 analog in (plus digital) and 24+ analog and digital outs.
> The whole mess will be tied into the DM2K and I will be
>able to route anything to anything... very DJ-esque, don't
>you think? ;-) The DM also has a remote layer for ProTools,
>so I should be able to toggle between controlling Nunedo and
>Protools on the same session. One I get it running, I'll
>post up some info on routing. I shouldn't have to turn away
>anything work-wise by the time it's done.
>
>The remaining Bundle III's (5 of them) will be spread around
>the facility, keeping some stuff for spares.
>
>Paris ain't goin' anywhere here!
>
>David.
>
>Chas. Duncan wrote:
>> Good luck with that, young man...
>>
>> And: will the last person to leave the Paris Forum kindly turn off the
>> lights?
>>
>> chas.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:22:05 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>>>we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>>
>>>We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>>
>>>I feel so dirty......
>>>
>>>David.
>>
>>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72189 is a reply to message #72181] |
Sat, 09 September 2006 06:30 |
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I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm and
Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make people
want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area) seem
to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work. Most
of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me, but
I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins, or
to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of which
I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just bought
a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX computer w/
my old G4. We shall see!
Gantt
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is business
and
>all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers that
get
>it, eh?
>
>But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin that
>would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
>
>Cheers,
>MR
>
>
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
>> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally caved.
>>
>> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>>
>> I feel so dirty......
>>
>> David.
>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72192 is a reply to message #72189] |
Sat, 09 September 2006 19:07 |
emarenot
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Hey Gantt,
I think you're right. The ability to use plugs that won't run in Paris, and
the automation features other DAWs offer are real compelling reasons to look
for alternatives. And, as Dave seems to be pointing out, my ears and sonic
expectations are not what I have to sell to. In fact I'm also working on
another DAW (on a G4 in fact!) and trying to integrate this with Paris.
Good luck in your efforts :-)
MR
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4502c1db$1@linux...
>
> I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm and
> Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
people
> want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
seem
> to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
Most
> of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me, but
> I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins, or
> to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
>
> I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of
which
> I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just bought
> a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX computer w/
> my old G4. We shall see!
>
> Gantt
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is business
> and
> >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers that
> get
> >it, eh?
> >
> >But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin
that
> >would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >MR
> >
> >
> >
> >"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
> >> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
> >> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally
caved.
> >>
> >> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
> >>
> >> I feel so dirty......
> >>
> >> David.
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72193 is a reply to message #72192] |
Sat, 09 September 2006 16:15 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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If either one of you guys needs a hand with getting this going, I'll be glad
to help. My # is 970-375-7081,
Deej
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:450344fa@linux...
> Hey Gantt,
> I think you're right. The ability to use plugs that won't run in Paris,
and
> the automation features other DAWs offer are real compelling reasons to
look
> for alternatives. And, as Dave seems to be pointing out, my ears and
sonic
> expectations are not what I have to sell to. In fact I'm also working on
> another DAW (on a G4 in fact!) and trying to integrate this with Paris.
> Good luck in your efforts :-)
> MR
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4502c1db$1@linux...
> >
> > I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm
and
> > Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
> people
> > want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
> seem
> > to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
> Most
> > of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me,
but
> > I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins,
or
> > to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
> >
> > I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of
> which
> > I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just bought
> > a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX computer
w/
> > my old G4. We shall see!
> >
> > Gantt
> >
> > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is
business
> > and
> > >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers that
> > get
> > >it, eh?
> > >
> > >But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin
> that
> > >would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >MR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
> > >> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
> > >> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally
> caved.
> > >>
> > >> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
> > >>
> > >> I feel so dirty......
> > >>
> > >> David.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72205 is a reply to message #72193] |
Sun, 10 September 2006 09:27 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Hey DJ,
Very cool of you.
MR
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:45034b7b@linux...
> If either one of you guys needs a hand with getting this going, I'll be
glad
> to help. My # is 970-375-7081,
>
> Deej
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:450344fa@linux...
> > Hey Gantt,
> > I think you're right. The ability to use plugs that won't run in Paris,
> and
> > the automation features other DAWs offer are real compelling reasons to
> look
> > for alternatives. And, as Dave seems to be pointing out, my ears and
> sonic
> > expectations are not what I have to sell to. In fact I'm also working
on
> > another DAW (on a G4 in fact!) and trying to integrate this with Paris.
> > Good luck in your efforts :-)
> > MR
> >
> > "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:4502c1db$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm
> and
> > > Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
> > people
> > > want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
> > seem
> > > to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
> > Most
> > > of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me,
> but
> > > I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins,
> or
> > > to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
> > >
> > > I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of
> > which
> > > I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just
bought
> > > a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX
computer
> w/
> > > my old G4. We shall see!
> > >
> > > Gantt
> > >
> > > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is
> business
> > > and
> > > >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers
that
> > > get
> > > >it, eh?
> > > >
> > > >But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin
> > that
> > > >would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >MR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
> > > >> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients
that
> > > >> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally
> > caved.
> > > >>
> > > >> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
> > > >>
> > > >> I feel so dirty......
> > > >>
> > > >> David.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Uncle..... [message #72231 is a reply to message #72193] |
Sun, 10 September 2006 19:15 |
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Hey DJ,
Stuff like this is why I love this group of people so much. I still remember
the night you called my to help me w/ some problem I was having.
Thanks for being willing to help!
gantt
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>If either one of you guys needs a hand with getting this going, I'll be
glad
>to help. My # is 970-375-7081,
>
>Deej
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:450344fa@linux...
>> Hey Gantt,
>> I think you're right. The ability to use plugs that won't run in Paris,
>and
>> the automation features other DAWs offer are real compelling reasons to
>look
>> for alternatives. And, as Dave seems to be pointing out, my ears and
>sonic
>> expectations are not what I have to sell to. In fact I'm also working
on
>> another DAW (on a G4 in fact!) and trying to integrate this with Paris.
>> Good luck in your efforts :-)
>> MR
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:4502c1db$1@linux...
>> >
>> > I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm
>and
>> > Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
>> people
>> > want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
>> seem
>> > to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
>> Most
>> > of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me,
>but
>> > I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins,
>or
>> > to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
>> >
>> > I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both
of
>> which
>> > I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just bought
>> > a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX computer
>w/
>> > my old G4. We shall see!
>> >
>> > Gantt
>> >
>> > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is
>business
>> > and
>> > >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers
that
>> > get
>> > >it, eh?
>> > >
>> > >But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin
>> that
>> > >would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
>> > >
>> > >Cheers,
>> > >MR
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
>> > >> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
>> > >> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally
>> caved.
>> > >>
>> > >> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
>> > >>
>> > >> I feel so dirty......
>> > >>
>> > >> David.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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