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WTB - Lexicon LXP5 [message #65466] Thu, 16 March 2006 19:55 Go to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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shoot me an "e" at animix@animas.net

thanks,

Deej
Re: WTB - Lexicon LXP5 [message #65468 is a reply to message #65466] Thu, 16 March 2006 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know I like you Deej, but why in heaven's name would you want to buy a
_really_ old hardware unit that was the 'bottom feeder' line from a company
that doesn't make great sounding gear to start with? Really, think about
this. I had to program LXP-5s a long time ago becuase they were the only
reasonably affordable multi-tap delays around and a piece a friend was working
on needed complex multi-taps. I'd guess the modeled reverbs in a POD sound
better than what's in an LXP-5.

I'm assuming this is related to your 'learning MIDI' stuff posted before,
and I will say that the LXP was the first unit I dealt with that really did
do sysex dumps perfectly every time, so I could reset the rental unit to
the exact state I left it in when last I was working. But there _has_ to
be a better way to do things, anyone as ingenious as you getting all of the
native/PARIS stuff to work together can find a better way to do anything
a crappy old Lexi can do.

TCB

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>shoot me an "e" at animix@animas.net
>
>thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
Re: WTB - Lexicon LXP5 [message #65470 is a reply to message #65466] Thu, 16 March 2006 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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But.... isn't that piece discontinued??? ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> shoot me an "e" at animix@animas.net
>
> thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
Re: WTB - Lexicon LXP5 [message #65477 is a reply to message #65468] Fri, 17 March 2006 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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One of the pieces of gear I was thinking about when I mentioned
that, IME, automating MIDI is not particularly reliable, was
in this series (the LXP-1). The parameters would occasionally
clear for no reason... and yes, of course, in the middle of a
mix. In fact - and this is going to sound mighty strange, but
it's true - if you'd hit the inputs a little too hard,
everything would go back to the default parameters for the
particular preset you were on - so any mods you'd made would
have to be re-tweaked. Luckily, it was easy to do with the MRC.
The studio I was working at at the time had two of these boxes,
and they both did it.

I also recall trying to MIDI-automate some pitch change stuff
in hardware without success... can't remember now if it was in
an SPX-90 or in an H-3000, or maybe we tried both - but I could
never get it to nail down quite right... so maybe I'm just one
of those guys you mention that doesn't find MIDI intuitive.
Although I'm pretty comfortable programming all sorts of MIDI
info into various synth workstations... I just don't find the
automation aspect of it as useful/flexible/time-saving as
other options (especially all the current options we have with
plugin EFX automation) for mixing.

Neil

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>You know I like you Deej, but why in heaven's name would you want to buy
a
>_really_ old hardware unit that was the 'bottom feeder' line from a company
>that doesn't make great sounding gear to start with? Really, think about
>this. I had to program LXP-5s a long time ago becuase they were the only
>reasonably affordable multi-tap delays around and a piece a friend was working
>on needed complex multi-taps. I'd guess the modeled reverbs in a POD sound
>better than what's in an LXP-5.
>
>I'm assuming this is related to your 'learning MIDI' stuff posted before,
>and I will say that the LXP was the first unit I dealt with that really
did
>do sysex dumps perfectly every time, so I could reset the rental unit to
>the exact state I left it in when last I was working. But there _has_ to
>be a better way to do things, anyone as ingenious as you getting all of
the
>native/PARIS stuff to work together can find a better way to do anything
>a crappy old Lexi can do.
>
>TCB
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>shoot me an "e" at animix@animas.net
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>
Re: WTB - Lexicon LXP5 [message #65486 is a reply to message #65477] Fri, 17 March 2006 08:06 Go to previous message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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Guys!!!!!....thanks for the concern ;o). This particular piece is for a
particular purpose, not for programming. It will be used alongside an LXP 1
using an MRC down in our rehearsal area and they will be patched into the
auxes of a Mackie 1402 in our PA. I used to use these years ago in a live
rig. That's what they're for, though I may sneak the LXP 1 upstairs from
time to time to use in a mix. I've always thought the LXP 1 reverbs sounded
better than any of the Lexi reverbs until you got to the PCM 90.

After checking the archaic midi spec on my Sony MU-R201, I'm not even gonna
go there with programming midi. I'm going to just create a bunch of useful
patches and tweak them as needed. There was a remote control made for this
and one of these days, I'll find one.....or, I may just sell it off and get
myself another TC D2 Delay unit. Those are awesome. The more I use it, the
more I like it.

As far as getting a small midi controller goes, Dedric suggested a Reflex
Audio Sonia. This looks like a very cool piece of work.

Right now my studio is completely torn down.....well almost completely. It's
patchbay/ I/O connector maintenance time after I noticed some unreliable
connections during this last mix so the everything else is back burnered for
the next few days.

Cheers,

Deej

"Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:441ab898$1@linux...
>
> One of the pieces of gear I was thinking about when I mentioned
> that, IME, automating MIDI is not particularly reliable, was
> in this series (the LXP-1). The parameters would occasionally
> clear for no reason... and yes, of course, in the middle of a
> mix. In fact - and this is going to sound mighty strange, but
> it's true - if you'd hit the inputs a little too hard,
> everything would go back to the default parameters for the
> particular preset you were on - so any mods you'd made would
> have to be re-tweaked. Luckily, it was easy to do with the MRC.
> The studio I was working at at the time had two of these boxes,
> and they both did it.
>
> I also recall trying to MIDI-automate some pitch change stuff
> in hardware without success... can't remember now if it was in
> an SPX-90 or in an H-3000, or maybe we tried both - but I could
> never get it to nail down quite right... so maybe I'm just one
> of those guys you mention that doesn't find MIDI intuitive.
> Although I'm pretty comfortable programming all sorts of MIDI
> info into various synth workstations... I just don't find the
> automation aspect of it as useful/flexible/time-saving as
> other options (especially all the current options we have with
> plugin EFX automation) for mixing.
>
> Neil
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >
> >You know I like you Deej, but why in heaven's name would you want to buy
> a
> >_really_ old hardware unit that was the 'bottom feeder' line from a
company
> >that doesn't make great sounding gear to start with? Really, think about
> >this. I had to program LXP-5s a long time ago becuase they were the only
> >reasonably affordable multi-tap delays around and a piece a friend was
working
> >on needed complex multi-taps. I'd guess the modeled reverbs in a POD
sound
> >better than what's in an LXP-5.
> >
> >I'm assuming this is related to your 'learning MIDI' stuff posted before,
> >and I will say that the LXP was the first unit I dealt with that really
> did
> >do sysex dumps perfectly every time, so I could reset the rental unit to
> >the exact state I left it in when last I was working. But there _has_ to
> >be a better way to do things, anyone as ingenious as you getting all of
> the
> >native/PARIS stuff to work together can find a better way to do anything
> >a crappy old Lexi can do.
> >
> >TCB
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>shoot me an "e" at animix@animas.net
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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