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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109097 is a reply to message #107792] Thu, 03 March 2016 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will The Weirdo is currently offline  Will The Weirdo   MEXICO
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Sorry for putting you on the spot Mike, lol.

Your updates are inspiring to many of us and your work is one of the reasons I'm rebuilding my PARIS rig, on it's own computer.... I'm searching for parts, planning a PARIS re-evolution in my setup.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109100 is a reply to message #109097] Fri, 04 March 2016 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dnafe is currently offline  dnafe   CANADA
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I have the greatest respect and admiration for you and the work you have done for Paris Mike

Not too many people would take on such an endeavor

You are the man!
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109101 is a reply to message #107792] Fri, 04 March 2016 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will The Weirdo is currently offline  Will The Weirdo   MEXICO
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I agree, people talk about saving the planet all the time. Your actions have directly lead to the planet being less polluted, as many PARIS users did not trash their systems when ID or CL stopped support a decade ago. In a small way Mike, respectfully, you are an actual hero.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109102 is a reply to message #109101] Fri, 04 March 2016 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Will,

I'm glad that I've made a contribution, but I'm definitely not an environmental hero, as much as I would like to be.

I've been working on the ASIO driver for the last six months from my 2008 Dodge Caravan while my son has his naps. I have to idle the engine the whole time, partly to keep from freezing (this is Canadian winter) but mostly because if I turn off the car, my son wakes up. The car is the only way I can get him to sleep.

I am completely sick of buying things only to throw them out. But to some degree, I keep doing it. To throw out PARIS hardware takes things too far. Keep in mind that I was burnt by Digidesign on the Session 8, and it wasn't going to happen twice if I could help it.

I bought an Energy Star home, but rather than being an environmental triumph, it left me with no respect at all for the Energy Star program. You should feel the draft that comes through my 2013 Energy Star windows. Natural Resources Canada wouldn't even come out to check them, much less do anything about it.

I have a compost bin, but I don't use it in the winter because it's too cold out. I go outside as little as possible in the winter. I do recycle as much as I can.

I would love to be an environmental hero, and I hope that with the PARIS work, I've helped make up a little for the rest of my life!

All the best,

Mike

Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109105 is a reply to message #109102] Sat, 05 March 2016 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dnafe is currently offline  dnafe   CANADA
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Slightly off topic

Have you tried playing white noise to help your son sleep?
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109106 is a reply to message #109105] Sat, 05 March 2016 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hehe. I have problems sleeping in total silence. I have a certain amount of tinnitus due to playing in LOUD bands many years ago. I still gig, but ALWAYS block my ears with rolled up toilet paper. (Readily available at gigs!).
To sleep, I need white noise. In summer I use a pedestal fan, and in winter I use an FM radio tuned off station.
I cannot sleep without some sort of constant wideband noise. It also helps mask external noises in the middle of the night, which wake me up. (My dogs snoring, possums running on the roof, cocks with loud exhausts etc....)

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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109107 is a reply to message #109106] Sun, 06 March 2016 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have a white noise maker that we bought for Isabelle. I'll see if I can use that and turn off the engine once it is warmer out.

I've been working on the ASIO a lot. I've got the main timing loop synchronized with the "big loop" in the EDS firmware. I have to rethink how I handle resynch requests because of missed samples now. I can't just pick any sample position and go anymore. It's tricky because I had to use a larger, circular buffer for the EDS side that is a multiple of ten and two regular buffers for the ASIO side that are powers of two so that Pro Tools could do 24 bit. If Avid could follow the ASIO standard, this would have been done a year ago.

I'll keep you guys posted. This kind of bug is hard because I'm at a play place with my daughter working on the driver from a lap top using remote desktop. I can't hear the output to see if I've fixed anything.

But, I'll check it tonight.

All the best!

Mike
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109123 is a reply to message #107792] Wed, 30 March 2016 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think the ASIO just transitioned from Alpha to Beta status.

I just finished the 442 control panel, which, unless I'm forgetting something, makes the driver now feature complete.

I have a bunch of testing to do for the MEC and 442 control panels (because I can't test everything in the car), and I think I can get the ASIO buffer switches timed from the EDS1000 IRQ, which will reduce CPU overhead at lower buffer sizes.

We're very close.

All the best!

Mike



Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109125 is a reply to message #109123] Wed, 30 March 2016 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laughing Alright that sounds Great to me ! Except I have to admit I am not really sure exactly what that all means. I just appreciate everything done to keep Paris alive and improving. I haven't been recording much lately, I have been doing quite a bit of playing out, but when this new driver is ready to go I will try it. When the driver is ready to try, I would be willing to test drive it a bit, as long as my brain will now how to revert if things to scary. Keep up the GREAT work and keep me in touch, Rich P.S. this is a pix of my new puppy Caesar, I lost my Buddy Samson March 1st. Very Happy
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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109126 is a reply to message #109123] Wed, 30 March 2016 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow...you are incredible to keep this great platform going!!!

Thanks!
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109127 is a reply to message #109126] Wed, 30 March 2016 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will The Weirdo is currently offline  Will The Weirdo   MEXICO
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We need a Mike Audit Day celebration!
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109128 is a reply to message #109123] Wed, 30 March 2016 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a Mike audit day, indeed! what would we all do without mike? thanks so much, mike, for all you do, and for your continuing love and passion for the incomparable paris system. we all owe you a very large debt of gratitude.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109131 is a reply to message #107792] Sun, 03 April 2016 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haven't checked in on Asio Drivers for a while. I see there is movement and am exited about that. Much thanks to you Mike for all your work keeping the Paris sound alive and relevant today. I would be happy to be a beta tester!
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109145 is a reply to message #107792] Mon, 25 April 2016 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Guys,

I have a question and an update.

My question: does anyone know how accurate the Centrance ASIO latency utility is? I just ran it on the PARIS ASIO driver, and it reported 1.45 ms round trip latency. Is this in addition to the 1.45 ms (times two) from the buffers? I've included a screen shot. I hope this is true!

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My update: I'm working on OSC support for the C16. I've made further improvements on efficiency since getting the main timing loop driven by the IRQ on the EDS card. I'm down to 3.5% CPU usage with dozens of tracks at 64 sample buffers.

OSC is going to be harder than MIDI because I have to manually map every single control. But, I'm on it. I'm targeting Reaper.

I've also got the ASIO driver loading as Windows MIDI driver to pass data for the C16. I'm not sure if it will just pass simple MIDI control messages or something more. I'm leaning towards some kind or partial HUI compatibility so it can be used in Pro Tools 10.

All the best!

Mike

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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109146 is a reply to message #109145] Mon, 25 April 2016 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will The Weirdo is currently offline  Will The Weirdo   MEXICO
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Looking good Mike, I can't wait for the finished product, as always great work.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109155 is a reply to message #107792] Fri, 29 April 2016 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi All,

I just sent the first OSC messages from the C16!

The faders are working going from the c16 to Reaper. The next step is getting updates back from Reaper and turning on the up and down LEDs.

If anyone has any requests for how to map the many buttons and knobs on the C16 to Reaper, I could use the help. For example, what should I do with the Monitor Level knob? There is no equivalent in Reaper that I know of.

I'm trying to keep the C16 working in Reaper the same way it does in PARIS. For example, I'm working on having the Channel control knobs and buttons work the same way. I'm also coding to have the mute buttons become solo buttons when the solo button is pressed.

But, what do I do with the data, shuttle, and jog buttons? There are a whole bunch that I'm unsure of.

All the best!

Mike

Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109157 is a reply to message #109155] Sat, 30 April 2016 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh man! How's OSC working for you, is it turning out to be useful?

The jog shuttle wheel would be awesome mapped to similar jog/scrub functionality in Reaper and there are assignable actions for it but it's pre-mapped to something called MultiRotate which I can't find any documentation on. Any idea what that is?



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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109159 is a reply to message #109157] Sat, 30 April 2016 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Kerry,

It's working well. I've now got Reaper sending back messages and turning on the C16 arrow lights. I have a lot of work to do yet, but the basic building blocks are there.

I'm able to make very slight adjustments to the fader positions. The full 1024 values are definitely being sent.

The only down side is that it is a lot harder to work with than MIDI. I have to parse a bunch of strings in the callback. But, it's going to work.

All the best!

Mike

Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109160 is a reply to message #109159] Sun, 01 May 2016 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So is this going to be working with reaper with paris in the background?

What's the timeline more or less?

It sounds great. Really great actually.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109161 is a reply to message #109160] Mon, 02 May 2016 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paris works with its own proprietary drivers but only the Paris app could use them. ASIO is a sort of "standard" driver that will allow most other audio software to use the PARIS hardware so there's no need to boot the Paris app (and in fact I'd be surprised if the Paris app can be run at the same time another app was using its previously dedicated hardware).

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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109162 is a reply to message #109159] Mon, 02 May 2016 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mikeaudet wrote on Sat, 30 April 2016 14:38
Hi Kerry,

It's working well. I've now got Reaper sending back messages and turning on the C16 arrow lights. I have a lot of work to do yet, but the basic building blocks are there.

I'm able to make very slight adjustments to the fader positions. The full 1024 values are definitely being sent.

The only down side is that it is a lot harder to work with than MIDI. I have to parse a bunch of strings in the callback. But, it's going to work.

All the best!

Mike




There you go again Mike, working out another way to keep PARIS hardware out of the landfills.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109163 is a reply to message #107792] Mon, 02 May 2016 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reaper running the Paris hardware sounds amazing.
Is it feasible to eventually have the DSP effects work in reaper?

Btw If we're taking request for c16 functions, a mono button and monitor
Switcher would be really useful.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109164 is a reply to message #109163] Tue, 03 May 2016 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once the buttons output MIDI, retasking them via a script in Reaper should be trivial; Reaper has amazing scripting functionality so the things you're asking for should be pretty easy to execute, although there may be inevitable lag before someone writes the scripts for Reaper that will take advantage of the "extras".

Mike - how many of the buttons or knobs on a C16 will output usable MIDI values? Will the controller numbers be fixed or assignable? None of those would be a deal-breaker (MIDIPipe or the PC equivalent will be happy to do any necessary controller value translation), just curious.


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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109165 is a reply to message #107792] Wed, 04 May 2016 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi N0Samples and Kerry,

N0Samples: I don't see a mono option in the default OSC document, unfortunately.

How exactly does the "monitor Switcher" work in reaper? I haven't seen it yet. I will have the record enable buttons mapped to the record buttons in Reaper.

Kerry: I'm not sure how I'm going to do the midi side yet. But, I'm going to send an OSC message for every button on the C16. It's my understanding that one can map these to commands in Reaper via the "learn actions" dialog. Reaper has the ability to map OSC messages to a subset of these options via a config file. I'm writing one of those files as I go.

A bunch of the buttons on the C16 don't seem to have a clearly corresponding option in Reaper. I could really use some help with this.

For example, if we could get a set of suggestions like "map the dim button on the C16 to the mono button on the master fader in Reaper," I can look into whether it's possible in the OSC config file options. Sadly, there is no "mono" option of any kind in the default OSC config file.

Here's a link to the reaper OSC info.

http://www.cockos.com/reaper/sdk/osc/osc.php

All the best!

Mike
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109186 is a reply to message #107792] Sat, 11 June 2016 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Everyone,

I have a few updates and a Ardour/Mixbus question:

1) I just got Pro Tool 10 to start Playback with the C16 using HUI emulation. Too cool! There's lots to do, but it's coming along fast.

2) Ardour (and thus Mixbus) is undergoing a major re-write of its OSC subsystem. I've been working on supporting its new OSC subsystem, which will be part of Ardour 5 and Harrison MixBus 4.

But, it turns out that the way the new Ardour OSC subsystem is being implemented is not compatible with the OSC library I'm using for the ASIO driver. I'm not sure how much work will be involved in sorting this out.

Is anyone planning on using this driver with MixBus or Ardour?

3) The Reaper OSC stuff is 99% done. I think I just have to sort out the "Dim" button. I've got multiple C16 support working and two banks. If you have two C16s, they appear as a 32 channel controller to reaper. Pressing the right arrow on the C16 moves them up to channels 33 - 64. The left arrow takes them back to 1-32. It should work this way with as many C16s as you have cards.

All the best!

Mike

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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109190 is a reply to message #107792] Sun, 12 June 2016 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just got the faders working in Pro Tools 10. I'm not getting any feedback yet for some reason. So, Play, Stop, FF, Rewind and the first 8 faders are working. I'm not sure how to handle the 16 faders on the C16 vs 8 on the HUI.

Is anyone out there using Pro Tools 10 who wants to work with me on mapping the C16 controls to HUI?

Cheers!

Mike
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109195 is a reply to message #109190] Tue, 14 June 2016 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just got feedback working for the faders in Pro Tools. I also should have each 8 faders from a C16 showing up as a separate HUI with its own Midi port, up to 16 HUIs. I just have some testing to do.

Cheers!
Mike



Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109208 is a reply to message #107792] Mon, 25 July 2016 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As far as I can tell, the ASIO driver is done.

There is one issue that I can't seem to fix: Pro Tools 10 locks up if more than 8 faders are mapped via the C16 HUI mode.

Using more than 8 faders with Mackie Control mode under Harrison Mixbus works fine.

I tested by temporarily disabling everything C16 related in the driver except the ping reply (which is required), and Pro Tools still crashed with more than 8 faders enabled, so I'm almost 100% certain it's a Pro Tools bug.

I have been working on adding an MME wrapper around the ASIO driver, embedded in the parisAsio.dll. This wrapper would still be single client and only available to 32 bit applications, but it would allow using a couple of channels of the PARIS hardware with applications that don't support ASIO. If this looks like it's going to take too long, I'll drop it for now. I've got the output side almost ready to test.

I also have to put together an installer.

That's where we're at.

After that, I'm going to work on a re-write of the scherzo driver for use with a 64 bit ASIO driver.

All the best!

Mike

Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109209 is a reply to message #109208] Mon, 25 July 2016 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amazing! Would a 64bit Asio driver then also work with Pro Tools 12? If yes, how is it even possible to get such stoneold hardware run on 64bit, you must be a genius.

And: Are the 8 faders in HUI mode bankable directly from the C16? Or does it mean that there are only 8 faders available altogether? Thanks

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Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109210 is a reply to message #109209] Mon, 25 July 2016 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Story,

Yes, a 64 bit ASIO (Which is not what I'm about to release) will work with Pro Tools 12. I have a copy of Pro Tools 12 in anticipation of testing the driver against it. Having said that, I expect a 64 bit version to take a 2 or 3 years to write. I'm thinking of coupling it with completely replacing the ParisStudiControlLib.dll file and moving that functionality into the Scherzo.

The PARIS hardware is actually really good. It transfers data via DMA in 64 sample buffers. It took me a while to figure out how to synchronize the ASIO buffer switches to this "Big Loop" in the EDS card, but it works out great.

As for the HUI, this is what I did:

Each bank of 8 C16 faders appears as a Midi Port. So, there is one midi in and one midi out for each 8 faders of a C16 (2 input ports and two output ports per C16), up to a maximum of 16 midi ports, or 128 faders. If I select more than one of these Midi ports in Pro Tools 10, Pro Tools locks up after a little while.

Doing almost the same thing in Harris Mixbus (MCP mode vs HUI mode) works fine.

I'll take one more look at it, but I really, really tried already, and I'm 99.9999% certain there is nothing wrong in my code.

You can still have as many tracks as you want in Pro Tools, you can only control them with the first 8 faders on the C16. The bank up and down buttons work. Transport controls and the jog wheel all work, too.

All the best!

Mike

Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109212 is a reply to message #109210] Mon, 25 July 2016 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Allright, sounds good. So I can bank the first 8 faders through as many channels as my session has. That's really great and not much of a problem in my view.

So how about Cubase/Nuendo. Do these work in 32 bit mode ASIO? Does the C16 also work here?

And one last question: If I start the Paris Hardware in ASIO mode can it still be used with the PARIS application at the same time or is it "either ... or"?

Kudos for taking the workload of programming 64bit. That is huge undertaking then. U never seem to lose your passion for the Paris Hardware which is remarkable in itself.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109213 is a reply to message #109212] Mon, 25 July 2016 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Story,

I don't have Cubase/Nuendo to test, unfortunately. But, if they support either HUI or MCU, they should work with the C16 just fine.

Did you want to beta test to be sure?

All the best,

Mike
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TBH, I don't use Cubase right now but I intend to do use it again with the Expert Sleepers Midi Interface. To use Cubase with Paris I would use the ADAT Sync of the RME Multiface anyways, so I guess my question was more theoretical. If I have the Setup working which should be in a couple of months I would definitely give it a try to see how Cubase works with the Paris Hardware.

So can the Paris Application run simultaneously with the Asio on the hardware? I guess not?
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109215 is a reply to message #109214] Tue, 26 July 2016 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sorry that I missed that question, Story.

The driver is built on top of the PSCL, which is single client. So, only one application can access the hardware at once.

That's probably what we want for low latency anyway. In order to share the hardware, another layer of buffering would need to be added in kernel mode.

All the best!

Mike
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Well, I just tried disabling just the ping reply in the HUI code path, and everything seems to work fine with 16 channels of C16. I may just leave the ping reply off. Pro Tools with throw an error with a checkbox option to ignore future errors. After that, everything works fine.

Or, I may find a better fix. Anyway, Pro Tools 10 looks like it will have as many C16 faders as we have C16 faders.

All the best!

Mike
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So Cool!
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So if Paris can't be run in the background, does that mean you can't use the ad/da to use hardware with the new DAW? Only the c16 as a controller?


Sorry if I missed it. I'd like to run reaper with 16 I/o for the production stage to then bounce to Paris for mixing.
Re: ASIO DRIVER current status ? [message #109219 is a reply to message #109218] Thu, 28 July 2016 04:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi N0samples,

The ASIO driver takes over the PARIS hardware and makes all the DA and AD available to the ASIO host in addition to the C16.

All the best,

Mike
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The ASIO driver is a means of using a different app to front-end your PARIS hardware than the original PARIS app. The new app (you can choose from a wide range) replaces the PARIS app.

You can already use the PARIS app and another app at the same time without the ASIO driver, as long as you have a sound card you can use for the second app. Just go to the other app and choose the other sound card as its output and feed its outputs (analog or digital) into PARIS inputs and sync the two apps using any of the established methods.


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This is pretty awesome. But for those in 64 bit DAWs, do you think there might some commercial workaround to get it to work in a 64 bit environment similar to wrapping a 32 bit plug-in?
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