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PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104600] Fri, 15 January 2010 17:59 Go to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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Hi All,

I'm not sure what happened, but I was listening to a mix I'm working on when suddenly Paris started spitting out loud distortion. When I solo a track it sounds OK, but when not soloing I can barely hear the mix behind the loud distortion. I tried opening an earlier version of the same project and I get the same thing. I'm running 2 EDS cards in a Magma chassis with a single MEC. This same system has been working well for quite a while.

Is it an EDS card gone bad???

Thanks for any help you can offer.

ron

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104601 is a reply to message #104600] Fri, 15 January 2010 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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Now an update--If I turn off submix 2 the distortion stops.
It's looking like my card B is going bad.

I'm going to try some trouble shooting to see what happens.

Ron

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104602 is a reply to message #104600] Fri, 15 January 2010 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Let's start with the small first - if that was happening to me, the two first things I'd tick off are bad plugins or corrupted submixes.

1) remove all VST plugins, save PPJ under a new name, quit and restart PARIS; check if problem persists

2) audio files can get corrupted (doesn't seem to happen much nowadays, but this thing's old). Force PARIS to rebuild a possibly corrupted rendered submix using Edmund's old method -

- Open audio window, clear all the light colored submix files,
- Create a new folder, set the record path to it,
- Save the project.

80% of the time I've had weirdness it's either a corrupted audio file or a plugin.

PS: you should be able to check that EDS card pretty easily by opening a different project and seeing if it plays back fine.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

[Updated on: Fri, 15 January 2010 18:15]

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104603 is a reply to message #104602] Fri, 15 January 2010 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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I only used EDS plugins on that submix. I've removed them all and still have the same problem.

I also removed all the files from the playing field of submix 2. when I played with files removed from I got no distortion--submix 1 sounds fine, and submix 2 is silent (no files). Then I added back to submix 2 one of the files which is working fine in submix one. When I play back I get the distoriton again. So the distortion seems to occur when ANY file is being played in submix 2 even with no effects.

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104604 is a reply to message #104603] Fri, 15 January 2010 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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If you move everything to Submix 3 and reassign it to the same EDS card Submix 2 was assigned to, does the problem follow it?

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104605 is a reply to message #104604] Fri, 15 January 2010 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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Yes, the problem moves to another submix if card be is assigned to that submix.

Looks like EDS card to me. Do they go bad like that?...just start distorting?

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104609 is a reply to message #104605] Sat, 16 January 2010 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
drfrankencopter is currently offline  drfrankencopter   CANADA
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Try re-seating the ribbon cables that connect your EDS-1000's together. Perhaps the clock signal isn't making it to the slave card.

Cheers

Kris

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104611 is a reply to message #104609] Sat, 16 January 2010 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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That was my last hope as well....and it worked!!

Thanks,

Ron

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104615 is a reply to message #104611] Sat, 16 January 2010 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Great to hear! So what are we guessing it was that loosened the connection - vibration? Oxidization on the connectors? Whichever way, I'll wiki it for the next person that runs into it.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104628 is a reply to message #104615] Mon, 18 January 2010 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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It didn't look oxidized, I think it just vibrated loose. It's been working several days now so I think it's OK.

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Re: PARIS started making lots of distortion type noise--What Happened!! [message #104629 is a reply to message #104628] Mon, 18 January 2010 19:14 Go to previous message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Ah well. Annoying, I know; still, could have been worse - at least there was a free fix.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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