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TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Hello All,

I know this has been covered before, but I lost my last system and had to build another.

I stayed with a older computer a Pentium 4 3gig, 4gigs ram,
1 Teri bite hard drive to record to.

So I set up the XP (I don't have any service packs installed yet)

I installed the Paris Pro card and then the software. After it found the hardware I installed the XP Driver.

I try to click on the Paris to start the program and nothing happens.

Seems like I remember something about: if the card is not in pci slot 1 then Paris will not launch. I tried the one next to the video card slot and then at the other end of the pci card slots.
Still nothing happens.

What am I missing here? Is it because I don't have service pack 1-3 installed yet. Or need to be in a different pci slot.

It does see the card, but no launch of the program.

Thanks for the help guys,

Jeff

[Updated on: Tue, 12 August 2014 22:08]

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Re: Paris window will not open [message #108335 is a reply to message #108334] Tue, 12 August 2014 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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Not totally positive if my memory serves me correctly, when I built a new rig I had basically the same problem and Mike audit told me it sounded like the driver wasn't loading. What he had me do was to uninstall paris, and load the driver first and I had to get the update the pace security manager, and then install the software. I hope this helps.
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108336 is a reply to message #108335] Wed, 13 August 2014 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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I will give that a try! I took 3.0 off and installed 2.0 and it did open the window just to give me a error. I think your right about the pac security manager. But Paris never gave me a challenge yet? Seems like I remember before it would give you that challenge right away to get the response code form intelligent Devices. I will give your idea a go here tomorrow.
Thanks, Jeff
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108338 is a reply to message #108334] Wed, 13 August 2014 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Jeff,

My latest driver requires Service Pack 3. Also, you'll have to install the PACE driver to get PARIS 3.0 to work.

I hope this helps! Let me know if I can help more.

All the best,

Mike

[Updated on: Wed, 13 August 2014 09:48]

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Re: Paris window will not open [message #108339 is a reply to message #108338] Wed, 13 August 2014 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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Just forgot to mention is that I have Mikes driver installed on my new rig and I am running paris on windows 8.1 bummer 32 bit but I have not had a problem since I got it all set up correctly. That pace thing is a pain in the neck. So you might want to think also about using mikes' driver. When in doubt I would always defer to our GURU mike.I wish I would have gone with windows 7 because I think that works on a 64 bit system. Rich
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108340 is a reply to message #108339] Wed, 13 August 2014 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Hi Rich,

I'm using a XP Beta driver (I think mike built this one too).

Yea, I wish I knew Mike had built a driver for 7 and up. Darn!
I would of got a faster computer.

I put 2.0 on my computer and it works. One time and then is looking for the pace thing. How do I put that on this?
What is the web site now? Or is it still Intelligent devices.

Sorry I have been out of the loop for a while on Paris. I do own enough for a 64 track system. I use only 2 Mec's right now.

I also wish Paris handled the UA UAD-1 and 2 cards better. I don't like the wrapper deal you have to use. I really don't have time to figure out how much delay it needs to be set at for the different plug-ins.

Will the new Anso driver support this better? What is the Anso driver support going to help. Will we be able to use a different software with Paris? Like MAGIX Samplitude, I wish.
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108341 is a reply to message #108340] Wed, 13 August 2014 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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wee oh you got deeper than I know, but the intelligent thing is on the intelligent website. I think Mike camn give you the link for that site, I think he gave the link to me. As far as the rest, I am still chuckling,.... you are going to have to ask Mike, the answers are way above my head. Right now all I can tell you is that all I use are the paris effects, and I have Mikes new ones, and for a personal studio, I have been able to handle basically everything I need. You can just cruise the intelligent devices website [ Huh tell me that isn't a contradiction in terms]and find that pace manager or whatever they call it. Once again when in doubt ask the very busy Mike, he will get you squared away in between feeding and changing his little one. Rich
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108342 is a reply to message #108338] Wed, 13 August 2014 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Hello Busy Mike,

I own your XP Beta driver. Will that one work on 7 and up?

It wants to run on 2.0 but not 3.0 and I'm getting a error message about my XP being a good copy. It is or was last time I used it.

So I can't get service packs to install. Need to buy another XP or 7.

Will a P4-3gig computer support windows 7 Mike?

Here is the other message I get.....

Error Message: Error Signature

App name PARS.exe App ver: 0.0.0.0

Mod Ver: 0.0.0.0 offset: 00000000

This error report includes: information regarding the condition of PARIS.exe
Where the problem occurred: the operating system version and the computer hardware in use: your digital product Id. which could be used to identify your license: and the internet protocol (IP)
and address of your computer.

Will the new ANSO driver support the U/A UAD-1, and 2 better?
Can we use a different software with the new driver (other then Paris software) What is your plan for it. Just got me thinking
here is all.

Jeff
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108343 is a reply to message #108342] Wed, 13 August 2014 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very Busy Mike just released Baby 2.0 a few days ago but I can field that one Smile - ASIO drivers allow PARIS hardware to be available to *any* audio application (paradoxically, except for the PARIS app itself which uses it's own proprietary drivers).

There have been two previously released versions of the ASIO drivers - one that was officially released near the end of PARIS' product life cycle and another developed and released by the PARIS community a couple of years after. Neither ever overcame some of the difficulties inside the PARIS hardware that Mike's new drivers are working at overcoming. When finished, you should be able to boot up, say, Cubase, select any of your MEC cards and route audio to and from it/them at low latency. But he's aiming for cooler things than that with it too.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Ha, ha Baby 2.0. Congratulations on the new baby!! Boy or girl?

Jeff
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108345 is a reply to message #108344] Thu, 14 August 2014 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Jeff,

I'm not really sure what version of the driver you have. The Multicore driver came out a long time ago. The 32/64 driver requires service pack 3 on Windows XP.

This sounds like either a service pack issue or the PACE driver is missing.

I've never tried the old XP multicore driver in 32 bit windows 7, so I'm not sure if it works or not.

Here a link to the latest PACE driver:

http://installers.ilok.com/iloklicensemanager/LicenseSupport InstallerWin32.zip

The ASIO driver is incredibly exciting. I haven't been able to work on it much since William was born, but I'm in negotiations with Erin to get a bunch of time next week. Isabelle starts kindergarten in September, and then my time will really open up in a way that it hasn't for the last four years.

In terms of latency, it seems to depend on how many channels are being used. If I use just two chanels, I've had it as low at 120 samples. As one adds more channels, the latency has to go up. I've found that 300 samples is the sweet spot where I get no clicks no matter what. But, that's with 28 streams of audio going. Less is very doable.

If there is interest in this, I'll start integrating the mixer as the next step. There will be a lot of work to do to make that happen, but it would be really cool.

I've attached a picture of the new liitle one.

Cheers!

Mike

index.php?t=getfile&id=916&private=0

Re: Paris window will not open [message #108346 is a reply to message #108345] Thu, 14 August 2014 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magical, proof that beauty still exists.
FWIW, he has a wonderfully strong name, lol.
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108347 is a reply to message #108345] Thu, 14 August 2014 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Hey Mike,

Nice looking baby boy you have there!! Smile

I took off my older XP and Put on a different one. Also install service pack 2 & 3 on the system. It open one time is all and then
is looking for Pace. I don't have any Pace driver on it as of yet.
2.0 open one time, 3.0 would not open at all (nothing).

I do have a strong interest in powered plug-in's myself.

So a mixer would be great for my work.

I will try a Pace link when I get back home tonight.

PS. nice baby picture Smile

Jeff
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Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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Question for Mike, when you talk about the mixer, does that mean it is an improvement on the existing Paris mixer, meaning will the c16s work the on screen mixer like it does now, only chef Mike will make it a better omelet? or... will the c16s have to go the way of the dinosaurs? For me, Paris software and mixers handle my situation pretty well as far as the edit window functions etc. OK enough of this stuff, Mike GREAT looking little guy!!!! I wish you and the little guy all the best, they are a lot of work but the rewards are un measureable and they can't make a hard drive big enough to hold all the memories. Ok I think I hear someone saying, time to change my draws, Pa. Laughing Oh maybe it is a smile, oops looks like gas! See ya, Rich
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108349 is a reply to message #108345] Thu, 14 August 2014 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Hi Mike,

I'm using Paris XP driver (Beta 3) 3.0.3.0
4/3/2003 183kb file

I tried to load the Pace License support driver and I get this message when installing it:

Error: The driver package is not signed. occurred in.\
copyzuf. cpp at line number! 414 other
Error:- 2146762496 Internal operation:200

So as you see I'm getting know where fast here.

Any help would be great! Thanks much....Jeff

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Re: Paris window will not open [message #108350 is a reply to message #108349] Thu, 14 August 2014 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Jeff,

I'm pretty sure that is Chris Thoman's XP driver.

I've attached an old version of the PACE driver. Let me know if it works.

All the best,

Mike
  • Attachment: TPKD.ZIP
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Re: Paris window will not open [message #108351 is a reply to message #108343] Thu, 14 August 2014 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Intelligent Devices use to make you do a challenge and they would send you a response via e-mail. How come I'm not seeing this now on Paris? Don't you still need it or was that replaced by the Pace Driver?
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108352 is a reply to message #108350] Thu, 14 August 2014 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Sometimes it loads the software and some times the same Error message. Strange this Paris Software. Any other thing I should try?

Thanks - Jeff
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108353 is a reply to message #108352] Thu, 14 August 2014 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My bet is that the PACE driver I sent is too old. You need something in between what I sent and what is on the PACE website.

I would try installing the latest PACE driver that is in another post on your new XP install.

If that doesn't work, you could contact PACE:

https://www.paceap.com/home.html

I'm pretty sure all they publish is a sales contact.

Or, you could contact Intelligent Devices:

http://intelligentdevices.com/

to see if one of them can provide a newer but not too much newer version of the PACE driver. The one I posted is from 2002.

All the best,

Mike

Re: Paris window will not open [message #108354 is a reply to message #108353] Thu, 14 August 2014 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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What I'm using is XP Home edition with SP2,Sp3 installed too.
This is one a P-4 running a 3.0 gig processor. 2 gigs of ram.

I just got done recording tracks and it is working very solid. So it's just a hit or mess on loading the drivers.

I tried using the new pace driver you sent me. The old one is working best with 2.0, Neither will work with the Paris 3.0 software installed.

Thanks - Jeff
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108355 is a reply to message #108354] Thu, 14 August 2014 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to throw this out there, my rig on which paris is on, runs on windows 8, my other rig is on 8.1 sorry for the misinformation. I had to get the Ilock license manager on my computer, then I installed mikes newest driver, then installed the 3.0 from the driver package, then opened paris and it asked for my response I had to go through ID to get a response that would work, once I got the second new response bang!!! up and running and still going Rock! Before I did all these steps I would try to launch paris and it would come up asking me if I wanted to let this program run, click yes, there she goes! I hate to say it but it sounds like that pace thing, ID is the hastle. There are a lot of previous postings about ID or Pace and the hastle. Rich
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108356 is a reply to message #108334] Thu, 14 August 2014 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TriSound Recording is currently offline  TriSound Recording   UNITED STATES
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Hey Rich,

Seems like last time I used my Paris in the old computer, the IT came up right away on the loaded software and gave me a Challenge for IT and then I would email them with the challenge and they gave me a response to the Paris challenge that the software came up with. That is what I seem to remember, maybe I'm wrong. It just did not come up anymore on my software. I don't even read about in the Paris manual.

My computer worked for years then the main hard drive died. So I built the same P-4 computer. I did not even know there was a new driver for 7, 8 & 8.1 Microsoft operating system now.

May have to build a faster one in the future. I will wait until Mike builds the ANSO Drivers and then do the upgrade.

Will 8.1 even work with a P-4 3 gig system. I think It maybe so slow for 7 and up. I know a P-4 is a slug on the internet. LOL

"Dame it Jim", I'm a Studio engineer not a computer programer!
I'm the one that's suppose to be twisting the knobs not my computer twisting mine. Rolling Eyes

Well thanks Rich,

Jeff
Re: Paris window will not open [message #108357 is a reply to message #108356] Thu, 14 August 2014 22:01 Go to previous message
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I agree I am not going to mess with my rig until Mike finishes his thing. The motor runs.........I know being able to go 64 bit on windows 8 would be cool but when you think about it when paris say 3 first came out it, how much rham was in a COMPUTER THEN , MEGA BYTE OR SOMETHING, NOW THEY are what giga byte so I already have so much more rham then this thing ever knew about when these versions were born, so I ain't messin with this little motor until it be broken or taken to Shocked the next step. Rich
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