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| Paris& Laptop [message #57960] |
Wed, 07 September 2005 09:04  |
zmora
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nearly shaking.
>He felt beaten, and like a victim of a mssive power structu
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| Re: Paris& Laptop [message #57971 is a reply to message #57970] |
Wed, 07 September 2005 15:20  |
Tom Bruhl
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d sue me for
>>damaging the house (which I did not do) if I did not get out that
>>night. I did not, and ended up defending myself in court (lost)
>>and on appeal (settled for a few hundred). Fun huh?
>>
>>Why am I telling you this? Because an experience like that will
>>make a flaming Bolshevik out of anyone. An experience like
>>what you are describing will result in the way you feel. It's only
>>reasonable that this is so.
>>
>>Two problems though.
>>
>>1. Your model does not account for the black leaders who not only
>>do great work, but will bend for no one. Rice and Powell are prime
>>examples. I do not believe that *anyone* pulls their strings.
>>And frankly, although we know there is still racism out there,
>>the hate shown towards conservative black leaders by liberals of
>>all colors, is often much, much worse than any racism they have
>>experienced. It starts with the idea that they are just puppets.
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>>And how will your model hold up if Rice becomes president?
>>Think she will be one of the bosses then? But she will STILL be
>>slandered by the left for not being one of them, won't she?
>>
>>This is not what King had in mind is it?
>>
>>
>>2. The fundamental difference between the left and the right on
>>this is NO LONGER "do we like black people?" any more. This is not
>>1961. (and honestly, look at liberal cities like San Fran and
>>Portland OR and try to find some black people) The fundamental
>>difference today is whether we believe that the government should
>>provide equal opportunities or equal results. The right believes
>>that the government should provide equal opportunites, but the
>>left believes that unequal results automatically equal racism.
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>>The left believe this because it keeps them in power and keeps
>>people coming back to them for handouts, creating a permanent
>>underclass of black victims on the bottom and white liberals on top with
>>handouts.
>>
>>But of course, equal opportunity does not always give equal results.
>>And that offends those with socialistic bents. Unfortunately for
>>them, the methods of providing equal results always fail, and
>>pretty much everyone knows it.
>>
>>Why do African immigrants do so much better than many black
>>americans? They do. Better grades, better jobs. It clearly is
>>not the genes.
>>
>>Racism isn't just sinful, it's stupid.
>>
>>It's the damn culture, not the people. Read Thomas Sowell on this.
>>That culture, derived from slave owners, has a history all the way
>>back to england, scotland and ireland, and every group, white or
>>black that embraces it, sees the same phenomena that black
>>american culture currently suffers from.
>>
>>I spent most of my life in academia, and I have done more than
>>have black friends. I have mentored and led young black men.
>>Today, nearly all are succesful and many are professionals, and it
>>all started with changing the way they think. Racism is not the
>>issue. It's like "whack-a-mole", we need to hammer it wherever it
>>pops up, but that won't change things. What made the change
>>is a sense of ownership.
>>
>>Young man came in my office one day to apologize for being late.
>>Said he was in jail. Turns out he was in McDonalds late at night,
>>just "eating while black" and a couple of Fontana cops rousted him.
>>When he simply asked them why they were hassling him, he ended
>>up in jail with a summons. He was so mad he was nearly shaking.
>>He felt beaten, and like a victim of a mssive power structure that
>>hated him for his skin color. He was set to pay the fine, but the
>>hate from this expreience was palpable in him. I said "to hell with
>>that, don't pay a damn thing". You are an AMERICAN, you own
>>this country as much as anyone else. Don't react to this like those
>>racist cops expect you to. You go in dressed well, and plead
>>"not guilty" in a loud and clear voice and explain what happened
>>as if you expect to be exonerated. Be righteous, be strong.
>>
>>The judge threw out the case and chewed out the cops.
>>
>>Today he helps run a restaurant. Has a nicer car than I do.
>>
>>The reason I reacted so strongly to Kanye West's nonsense, and
>>Jason repeating it here, is that it goes to the heart of this issue.
>>
>>White racists look at the looting in NO and go "how come them
>>people is all black?" As if their skin was what made them criminals.
>>And Kanye and others cannot stand the apparent loss of respect
>>that represents, so they must push the blame somewhere else, so
>>they tell lies about the president, while not doing a DAMN THING
>>to help anyone in NO.
>>
>>These people. Kanye and the racists, are two side of the same
>>person. Both full of sh*t. If there was ONE black hero, (and there
>>were hundreds) then the evil in NO was not Bush or the white power
>>structure, it was the evil in the criminal's own shriveled little
>>hearts. But to admit this, is to give an inch to the racists, so we
>>tell lies.
>>
>>Here's the truth. The failure in NO was entirely due to the corrupt
>>mayor and his 255 school buses and the incompetent sobbing
>>governor. Could FEMA have reacted faster? Yes, but not by much
>>and Bush is only to blame if he does not fix FEMA.
>>
>>Jason and Kanye, and the whole lousy bunch of liars here are so
>>short on facts that they must tell bigger and bigger lies and get
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| Re: Paris& Laptop [message #57977 is a reply to message #57975] |
Wed, 07 September 2005 19:19 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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> Problem is, it;'s all over the dobro, mandolin and doublebass and guitar.
> Carving his voice out of all these instruments basically kills the mix.
>
> There are also phasing issues because the instrument mics are, in every
> case, at least 10 ft. and in the case of the dobro, 20' away from the
> singer. It's not really a problem with instruments being that far
> separated
> from each other, but with a singer, it's killin me.
>
> WTF was I thinking letting them do this? I should have shot the producer,
> stolen his money and paid myself for another day of time for overdubs.
>
> I was hoping to do a better mix with some extreme cuts and marginal boosts
> to certain instruments but this (especially boosting the dobro freqs so
> that
> they cut through the mix) really aggravates the worst frequencies in the
> vocal bleed.
>
> I'll get an acceptable mix out of this using very slight cuts and panning,
> but it's never going to sparkle and I'm not going to *wow* anyone with it.
> That's a shame. the instruments are really well played and I'd just love
> to
> create a *radio ready* situation for them ;o)
>
> Well......it was their decision to do it this way in the interest of time.
> I
> just hate that sometimes when all of a sudden I get into a demo session
> and
> the players just absolutely *KILL* they are so good. This is one of those
> situations.
>
> I'm sure I'll be able to polish it up with a bit of EQ and gentle
> compression on the mix bus but the phasing of the vocal is still going to
> be
> there to a small degree.
>
> ;oP
>
>
>Right after I posted this I found the *major* culprit. The vocal frequencies
in the doublebass were absolutely the problem. Luckily, there's lots of room
for surgery in the upper midrange of a doublebass, especially in the contest
of a mix. I did some major carving. Cleaned it right up. I'm back to doing
my other little tweaks that I wanted to do (in a bit more conservative
manner) and things are holding together.
Thanks for your thoughts. I must have been readin'yo'mind.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:431fb97a$1@linux...
> Have you tried to que the vocal up against, one track at a time, let's
say..
> dobro track.. out of phase until it cancels the most? Then render the
> dobro.. lather, rinse, repeat for the worst tracks. Too much of this could
> cause all kinds of phase nightmares, but it might enable you to clean off
> enough funk to deal with the mix tones.
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:431fb6b1$1@linux...
> > I've been mixing a project here that was recorded for a new client. He
> > just
> > means it to be a demo and so in the interest of getting this done
quickly,
> > we didn't isolate the singer. He's got a very dull and honky midrange
that
> > is bleeding all over the tracks (*all* of them). Normally, on something
> > like
> > this I would do a little cutting at 400Hz to carve out the cardboard,
> > then
> > a tiny boost at 3kHz for a little clarity while softening up the 5kHz
> > range
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| Re: Paris& Laptop [message #57992 is a reply to message #57986] |
Thu, 08 September 2005 02:55 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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yway, sorry if this post is a little confused, but I AM a little confused
right now. Maybe I just need to vent a little bit, but hopefully a
benificial discussion can come of this.
Thanks,
Joey Bee
Interesting link. Chock full of ignorant bravado and riddled with
logical fallacies. Proof through agressive asssertion and repetition,
generalizations, simplistic metaphor, thin on facts, heavy on
allegations. Nice rant. Long. Off the mark. I'm not surprised that
comments were removed. Very entertaining.
If anyone wants to disect it further, start up a thread on PARIS/general.
Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
JT wrote:
> DC,
>
> Although I often don't agree with you, thanks for posting that link. A very
> good read.
>
> jt
>
> "DC" <dc@spamthecan.com> wrote:
>
>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The big guys call him
>>>up to the office and decide to make him a superviser.
>>>Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are
>>>getting places. But not so fast! They make him believe
>>>that if he continues to work hard he will become one
>>>of them,but he will never become one of them and
>>>at
>>>some point he will realize that he has been use to do the
>>>dirty work for them.
>>
>>Nappy,
>>
>>I remember being a college kid and having to rent small houses
>>and apartments. The landlord can throw your butt out at any
>>time for any reason. One of them got tossed out of his in-laws
>>house for beating his wife and ordered me out on one day notice! I
>>had just moved in 3 days earlier. I said only with a complete refund
>>of every nickel. He refused, and told me he would sue me for
>>damaging the house (which I did not do) if I did not get out that
>>night. I did not, and ended up defending myself in court (lost)
>>and on appeal (settled for a few hundred). Fun huh?
>>
>>Why am I telling you this? Because an experience like that will
>>make a flaming Bolshevik out of anyone. An experience like
>>what you are describing will result in the way you feel. It's only
>>reasonable that this is so.
>>
>>Two problems though.
>>
>>1. Your model does not account for the black leaders who not only
>>do great work, but will bend for no one. Rice and Powell are prime
>>examples. I do not believe that *anyone* pulls their strings.
>>And frankly, although we know there is still racism out there,
>>the hate shown towards conservative black leaders by liberals of
>>all colors, is often much, much worse than any racism they have
>>experien
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