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Compression while recording? [message #59445] Sun, 23 October 2005 14:20 Go to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
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t it hard with compression and a little
eq boost at mixdown. The singer is long gone and there is frequently no second
chance. If you discover this during the tracking session, you can adjust
the mic, try a different mic, etc. It’s better to get a sound that works
to tape and have confidence that it will work in the mix with just a little
tweaking. (I think this is the main reason the vast majority of producers
and engineers that
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59448 is a reply to message #59445] Sun, 23 October 2005 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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ant for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
>several categories for awards:
>
>Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
>Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B vocal perfomance "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>
>Obviously, it is early on in the running, but good news none the less.
>
>TyroneOn 24 Oct 2005 03:54:09 +1000, "Tyrone Corbett"
<tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>Guy's, I just received notice that a son
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59452 is a reply to message #59448] Sun, 23 October 2005 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
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oiding the second conversions if possible.)
>
> 2. If you are looking for a particular sound, it is very dangerous to
assume
> that you can get it after the fact. Many times I have discovered that the
> track becomes too sibilancy if I hit it hard with compression and a little
> eq boost at mixdown. The singer is long gone and there is frequently no
second
> chance. If you discover this during the tracking session, you can adjust
> the mic, try a different mic, etc. It's better to get a sound that works
> to tape and have confidence that it will work in the mix with just a
little
> tweaking. (I think this is the main reason the vast majority of producers
> and engineers that I know that work on major label projects still cut this
> way.)
>
> 3. Controlling level to tape is still important. The Paris meters (like
most
> DAW meters) are not accurate enough to spot short peak overs. You can
always
> overcompensate and record very low, but how many engineers cut below -10,
> and I know many singers that can cause very wide swings in input levels.
> This can also be true of instrument tracks although I tend to be more
conservative
> with compression for instruments. Using some compression to tape can save
> an import
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59455 is a reply to message #59445] Sun, 23 October 2005 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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l a track dead, and we all know that you can't
un-compress.
>
> Gene
>
> PS. One final point. If you know that you will be spending a lot of time
> with Mr. AutoTune you should avoid compression or go very light.
>I use the eds comp on the main buss insert, as well as nolimit. You can hear
some of my work at....

http://www.myspace.com/roma79
http://www.myspace.com/riddleofsteelband
http://www.myspace.com/asceticrecords

rock on,
-Carl Amburn

"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Do most users prefer to mix in paris with or without
> the eds stereo comp across the mix buss?Saaawwweeeeeettt Tyrone. All I want for Christmas is your Grammy nomination.
! Ha!

-Carl Amburn

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
> Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
> several categories for awards:
>
> Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
> Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
> Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
> Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
> Best R&B vocal perfomance "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>
> Obviously, it is early on in the running, but good news none the less.
>
> Tyronetotally cool, congratulations!


James

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
>Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
>several categories for awards:
>
>Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
>Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B vocal perfomance "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>
>Obviously, it is early on in the running, but good news none the less.
>
>TyroneGreat news, Ty! Best of luck to you - hope you get it!

Neil


"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
>Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
>several categories for awards:
>
>Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
>Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&a
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59458 is a reply to message #59455] Sun, 23 October 2005 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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fferent voicing from standard issue (Sytek)
>5. Mojave cardioid built by Mike Claytor (Great River MP2-MH)
>6. SE Gemini (Great River MP2-MH)
>7. Neumann KM184's in X/Y (Forssell JMP-6)
>8. AKG C460B-Ck-61's in X/Y (Forssell JMP-6)
>9. SE 3 in X/Y (Forssell JMP-6)
>
>These preamps are all somewhat similar, being clean/straight wire with gain
>kinda pre's and they were selected for reasons if consistency and expediency
>in getting this test done within the remaining time I have available in
>2005.
>
>If it's OK with eve3ryone involved, I'll make some sound clips available.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>
>I'm mixing with the channel faders fairly hot, the submix faders down to
where the submix isn't quite hitting oiverload (in my most recent imx. this
was around -2.2dB , then using NoLimit for making up the gain and then a
little more......usually a threshold setting of
-4.4dB. This yields a sound which is, to my ears, sorta like using a
nicely colored bus compressor like a VariMu.

Deej

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> What type os setting do you use?
> I can;t seem to trust Nolimit on the Mix bus as it always gives me a very
> flat looking WAV.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I've been mixing with NoLimit across the Global bus.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:435bf479$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Do most users prefer to mix in paris with or without
> >> the eds stereo comp across the mix buss?
> >
> >If the performer doesn't have good mic technique, a transparent compressor
can save a take. I don't use comp color when tracking if I can help it.
Limits my options later on.

Deej

"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> Just curious how many of you fellow Parisians approach compression while
recording
> in to paris. For instance, does anyone compress Snares and Kicks or
Overheads
> to get a hotter level without too much red. What about vocals?
> Do you record em uncompressed and then add when mixing? Or do you like the
> effect of compressing while tracking and then again while mixing?
> Also I'd love to know what some of our fav hardware compressors are and
why.Deej, I've look for some old post I thought I saved from when you went through
this, but I can't find them, so, please forgive, but I need your help. I
finally installed the RME 9652 and Cubase SX3. I can't get them to sync up
at all. Cubase just sits there when I press play on Paris (I have the adat
sync hooked up) I have tried everything I can think of, changing settings
in the 9652 control panel to recieve adat sync, set cubase to recieve sync,
etc. I'm just talking transport sync so far...havn't even tried audio yet.
I previously had Cubase 1.06 sync'd up perfectly (sample accurate) with Paris
using a Frontier Dakota.
etc(but it's late so I may be missing something) Do you have any tips?????
RodI'm sure some of you guys are hip to this, but I thought I would put this
out there.

http://www.josephson.com/tn5.html

James"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
>Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
>several categories for awards:
>
>Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
>Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
>Best R&B vocal perfomance "All I Want for Christmas is You"
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59465 is a reply to message #59445] Sun, 23 October 2005 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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he
adat
>> sync hooked up) I have tried everything I can think of, changing settings
>> in the 9652 control panel to recieve adat sync, set cubase to recieve

>> sync,
>> etc. I'm just talking transport sync so far...havn't even tried audio
yet.
>> I previously had Cubase 1.06 sync'd up perfectly (sample accurate) with

>> Paris
>> using a Frontier Dakota.
>> etc(but it's late so I may be missing something) Do you have any tips?????
>> Rod
>
>Extremely cool. Kudos to you and your partners.
Wish you the best.
MR

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
>Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christm
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59472 is a reply to message #59452] Mon, 24 October 2005 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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/> sync
> >up
> >>> at all. Cubase just sits there when I press play on Paris (I have the
> >adat
> >>> sync hooked up) I have tried everything I can think of, changing
settings
> >>> in the 9652 control panel to recieve adat sync, set cubase to recieve
> >
> >>> sync,
> >>> etc. I'm just talking transport sync so far...havn't even tried audio
> >yet.
> >>> I previously had Cubase 1.06 sync'd up perfectly (sample accurate)
with
> >
> >>> Paris
> >>> using a Frontier Dakota.
> >>> etc(but it's late so I may be missing something) Do you have any
tips?????
> >>> Rod
> >>
> >>
> >
>Great news man! We're pulling for you here.

;o)

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
> Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
> several categories for awards:
>
> Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
> Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
> Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
> Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
> Best R&B vocal perfomance "All I Want for Christmas is You"
>
> Obviously, it is early on in the ru
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59482 is a reply to message #59445] Mon, 24 October 2005 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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-4.4dB. This yields a sound which is, to my ears, sorta like using
> a
> >nicely colored bus compressor like a VariMu.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> >news:435bfd41$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> What type os setting do you use?
> >> I can;t seem to trust Nolimit on the Mix bus as it always gives me a
very
> >> flat looking WAV.
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >I've been mixing with NoLimit across the Global bus.
> >> >
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59488 is a reply to message #59445] Mon, 24 October 2005 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;Deej
>> >
>> >"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> >news:435bfd41$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What type os setting do you use?
>> >> I can;t seem to trust Nolimit on the Mix bus as it always gives me
a
>very
>> >> flat looking WAV.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >I've been mixing with NoLimit across the Global bus.
>> >> >
>> >> >Deej
>> >> >
>> >> >"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:435bf479$

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Re: Compression while recording? [message #59490 is a reply to message #59488] Mon, 24 October 2005 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sync, set cubase to
>>>> >>> recieve
>>>> >
>>>> >>> sync,
>>>> >>> etc. I'm just talking transport sync so far...havn't even tried

>>>> >>> audio
>>>> >yet.
>>>> >>> I previously had Cubase 1.06 sync'd up perfectly (sample accurate)
>>>with
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Paris
>>>> >>> using a Frontier Dakota.
>>>> >>> etc(but it's late so I may be missing something) Do you have any
>>>tips?????
>>>> >>> Rod
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Thanks Kim for the suggestions...how do you "bypass" PACE ? ( I have
anti-pace software that I have never tried to use)...
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:435a0c1e$1@linux...
>
> > Pace never actually caused me any trouble, though I do bypass it now
just
> to be sure. ;o)
>at least I am, I think DJ switched back to ME to get multiple adats per mec.
I know what your asking......Paris on XP has always worked with usin
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59497 is a reply to message #59488] Mon, 24 October 2005 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vous to only have one instance of some of
> these files, as some are client files.
> Rod
>
>
>
>
>
>Don't own the video ,wish i did.Any recommended settings,Aaron?
Eugene B


Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yes, but not as a compressor, heheh......
>
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59498 is a reply to message #59497] Mon, 24 October 2005 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I usually get a mix I dig, then I'll spank the global fader with gain out
of
>the compressor make up gain. Fattens it up every time. The method is covered

>in the Paris video I cut with BT I believe. Thanks for the trick, Brian!
No
>limit is great, but for what I want there it's not where I'm going,
>personally.
>Now then, no limit on a bass/floor tom/kick track... that's another thang...
>
>AA
>
>
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Re: Compression while recording? [message #59506 is a reply to message #59498] Mon, 24 October 2005 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that light hardware compression with a peak limit in
> and
>>light compression on the way out to mix (be it through a plug, hardware,
>>EDS or mix/bus/channel gain limiting) produces the most smooth results for
>>my style of mixing... which is typically pop/agressive levels. Results may
>>vary on material program, of course.
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59511 is a reply to message #59490] Mon, 24 October 2005 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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xMEC and 4xEDS + Magma.

As I have some nice outboard FX (6 units) and want to use
them on all MEC's and want to have them available on all
channels, I come to that "Aux buss suming problem".
(Btw., effects are: Lexicon 480L, Lexicon 300, TC M3000,
Lexicon PCM70, Sony M7 and Roland space echo.)

Did anyone found some quality solution on this topic????

As I have some skills in electrotehnics, I'm searching
for some DIY solution for this problem.
....something like "High quality 8x2 mixer with balanced I/O..."
Of course, I need 5 mixers of that kind.... or one 40x10...

I also considered a digital summing solution with ADAT interface
in every MEC, then summing ADAT signals in Friend Chip's
DMX12 or DMX16 digital matrix and then convert this summed
ADAT signal with 8ch. A/D to 8 analog balanced sends.
This solution is THE BEST, but it costs about 2700$ !!!!!

I must convert this signals to analog because not all of
my FX have digital inputs.... and Lexicon 300 acts little
bit wierd when conected digitally... ;*)

....well I think an HQ analog solution is the best idea...

Please, tell me if there was some workaraund on this topic.

THANX.


And, btw., these guys using the M-audio digital summing device,
take a look at DMX12 (http://www.friend-chip.de/dmx12.htm)
and DMX16 (http://www.friend-chip.de/dmx16.htm).
These devices are much more sophisticated then M-audio!
....but not worth a fortune...
:-)Rod wrote :"I think DJ switched back to ME to get multiple adats per mec."

Is that some problem with multiple ADAT cards per MEC IN XP ????????????????

Suad


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:435d30bc$1@linux...
>
> at least I am, I think DJ switched back to ME to get mult
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59515 is a reply to message #59445] Mon, 24 October 2005 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Latham is currently offline  Chris Latham   UNITED STATES
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t; >>>>> >>> etc(but it's late so I may be missing something) Do you have any
> >>>>tips?????
> >>>>> >>> Rod
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>Hello.

I saw that some of you are using M-audio digipatch.

....well, it's good but take look at this stuff:

DMX 12 http://www.friend-chip.de/dmx12.htm
(12 x 12 crosspoint switch matrix, 24bit ADAT and SPDIF)
....about 675$

DMX 16 http://www.friend-chip.de/dmx16.htm
(16 x 16 crosspoint switch matrix, MULTI Digital Format - 4 modules!!)
....about 489$ mainframe + about 200$ for modules (ADAT,Spdif,AES, format
conversion...)


Excelent stuff. Isn't it?

Greetings,

SuadThat's awesome!

Congats!!!!

Craig M



in article 435c82e1$1@linux, Dimitrios at musurgio@otenet.gr wrote on
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Re: Compression while recording? [message #59550 is a reply to message #59515] Tue, 25 October 2005 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Win 9x in order to get
> more
> > than 1 x ADAT card working per MEC. This is a *big* issue and has to do
> > with the Paris XP driver. It's not something that you can just *work
> around*
> > if you absolutely have to have lots of ADAT cards in Paris. The only two
> > individuals I know of who have successfully accomplished this are Brian
T
> > and Mic Cross and last time I talked to Mic, he was having some problems
> > with his rig relapsing back into not seeing some of the ADAT cards so
this
> > isn't something to take lightly if you're planning on using a
*doubleDAW*
> > configuration.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> > "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:435e4465@linux...
> > > Thanks Deej for your response. That's very kind!
> > > Your real name is Doug as I rememberd??
> > >
> > > I have an Intel875PBZ mbo running with 3.2Ghz Northwood.
> > > It has a nice IRQ4 PCI slot which is not shared with
> > > anything!
> > > I'm just negotiating with Magma dealer in Austria...
> > > I'll probably take MagmaP7NE oem kit. (without a case) (about700EUR)
> > > I'm planning to put 4 EDS cards in there.
> > > I hope there won't be some additional latencies in signalflow
> > > with Magma... Will it be?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Suad
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > news:435e4213@linux...
> > > > I'm using a 13 slot Magma with Cubase SX and 4 x UAD
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59559 is a reply to message #59550] Tue, 25 October 2005 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nk">matrtinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Don't own the video ,wish i did.Any recommended settings,Aaron?
>> Eugene B
>>
>>
>> Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Yes, but not as a compressor, heheh......
>>>I usually get a mix I dig, then I'll spank the global fader with gain
out
>> of
>>>the compressor make up gain. Fattens it up every time. The method is
>>>covered
>>
>>>in the Paris video I cut with BT I believe. Thanks for the trick, Brian!
>> No
>>>limit is great, but for what I want there it's not where I'm going,
>>>personally.
>>>Now then, no limit on a bass/floor tom/kick track... that's another
>>>thang...
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:435bf479$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Do most users prefer to mix in paris with or without
>>>> the eds stereo comp across the mix buss?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Maybe try an Intel875PBZ mainboard...
It's top quality, rock stable, ICH5R Sata raid, Excelent Intel Gigabit LAN,
AGP8x, 5 "normal" PCI busses, dual chanel DDR, no sound.

I have 2 of them. One for paris second for Cubase.
Works excelent.

I had some bad expirience with Asus P4C800. Realy bad expirience!!
From then, no Asus anymore!

Regards,

Suad


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> Hey,
>
> Anyone using this??
>
> http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=0&a mp;model=166&modelmenu=1
>
> Good, bad, indifferent? Need a single CPU Intel based computer for
> Nuendo
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59595 is a reply to message #59559] Wed, 26 October 2005 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Hi All -

I know this is WAY off-topic, but I'm desperate and thought
maybe someone here might have some experience with this. I
recently picked up an old Zoom 9050 (half-rack unit made in the
early 90s). I remembered these sounding really cool, and got it
for like $75.


Problem came when I tried to hook a MIDI controller to it –
nothing worked. The Zoom has a MIDI monitor, and it displayed
nothing. Cables were good, and the controller works with other
equipment, so it’s definitely the Zoom. Strange thing is, the
MIDI in and out ports on the Zoom only have 3 conductors – now I
know that MIDI only uses 3 of the 5 pins, but almost all MIDI gear at least
has 5 connectors (even if only 3 are hooked-up).

Question – anyone know if there is some bizarre proprietary pin-
out for the Zoom MIDI cable? Anyone else experience problems
with Zoom 9030 / 9050 units and MIDI?

Thanks, and sorry for the OT message :)Hey,

I've had several of these units and every one of them was flaky in some
way. 2 of them just stopped working, one had the same no-midi issue.
Could be just a dud unit. Maybe not, but that's my take on them.

jef
ps. they really do have some cool sound huh?

deadmeat wrote:

>Hi All -
>
>I know this is WAY off-topic, but I'm desperate and thought
>maybe someone here might have some experience with this. I
>recently picked up an old Zoom 9050 (half-rack unit made in the
>early 90s). I remembered these sounding really cool, and got it
>for like $75.
>
>
>Problem came when I tried to hook a MIDI controller to it –
>nothing worked. The Zoom has a MIDI monitor, and it displayed
>nothing. Cables were good, and the controller works with other
>equipment, so it’s definitely the Zoom. Strange thing is, the
>MIDI in and out ports on the Zoom only have 3 conductors – now I
>know that MIDI only uses 3 of the 5 pins, but almost all MIDI gear at least
>has 5 connectors (even if only 3 are hooked-up).
>
>Question – anyone know if there is some bizarre proprietary pin-
>out for the Zoom MIDI cable? Anyone else experience problems
>with Zoom 9030 / 9050 units and MIDI?
>
>Thanks, and sorry for the OT message :)
>
>
>3 of 5 pins wired is normal. Many older devices only send/receive on
channel 1. Try that first.

David.

deadmeat wrote:

> Hi All -
>
> I know this is WAY off-topic, but I'm desperate and thought
> maybe someone here might have some experience with this. I
> recently picked up an old Zoom 9050 (half-rack unit made in the
> early 90s). I remembered these sounding really cool, and got it
> for like $75.
>
>
> Problem came when I tried to hook a MIDI controller to it –
> nothing worked. The Zoom has a MIDI monitor, and it displayed
> nothing. Ca
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bles were good, and the controller works with other
> equipment, so it’s definitely the Zoom. Strange thing is, the
> MIDI in and out ports on the Zoom only have 3 conductors – now I
> know that MIDI only uses 3 of the 5 pins, but almost all MIDI gear at least
> has 5 connectors (even if only 3 are hooked-up).
>
> Question – anyone know if there is some bizarre proprietary pin-
> out for the Zoom MIDI cable? Anyone else experience problems
> with Zoom 9030 / 9050 units and MIDI?
>
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>The big boys like to commit. Saves everyone
>time in the end as long as it's a good decision.

I should have added "and I'm just a shrimp in the sea
of audio."

But I do commit from time to time.
Tom

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>The big boys like to commit. Saves everyone
>time in the end as long as it's a good decision.

Funny, I was talking to DJ bout this the other day too.
The problem with using mic pres instrwad of a quality board is how to =
bus
tracks. I always want to do it with snare top and botton too..






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Just group the faders in Paris with chosen eq and
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they're a dime a dozen.

But you knew that.
T.

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>The big boys like to commit. Saves everyone
>time in the end as long as it's a good decision.

Funny, I was talking to DJ bout this the other day too.
The problem with using mic pres instrwad of a quality board is how to =
bus
tracks. I always want to do it with snare top and botton too..






"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>

>
> "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =3D
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> Yes. Get the balance like you like it, then stripe it to one =
track.
>
> CL
>
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> news:435e9870$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > Pretty easy and common to do during mixing using another track in =
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> > Was the engineer commiting at tracking to one combined track?
>
>
>
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Thanks,
MattMagama bases the supply requirements at 25W per slot, which is the
most a PCI card is "supposed" to draw. Go with a 400W supply just to
be safe.

David.

thesandbox wrote:

> I am looking at a 7 slot tower unit that has the 300W PS in it. Will that
> be fine or should I find one with the 400w.
> Thanks,
> MattI was warned off of these tower units by someone, I forget who, after he
told me that he was having all sorts of problems. I've never had an issue
with my 13 slot rackmount Magma. YMMV.

Deej

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> Magama bases the supply requirements at 25W per slot, which is the
> most a PCI card is "supposed" to draw. Go with a 400W supply just to
> be safe.
>
> David.
>
> thesandbox wrote:
>
> > I am looking at a 7 slot tower unit that has the 300W PS in it. Will
that
> > be fine or should I find one with the 400w.
> > Thanks,
> > MattI didn't even see the word "tower" in there... but yes, go with a
rackmount unit if possible.

David.

DJ wrote:

> I was warned off of these tower units by someone, I forget who, after he
> told me that he was having all sorts of problems. I've never had an issue
> with my 13 slot rackmount Magma. YMMV.
>
> Deej
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
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>>Magama bases the supply requirements at 25W per slot, which is the
>>most a PCI card is "supposed" to draw. Go with a 400W supply just to
>>be safe.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>thesandbox wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am looking at a 7 slot tower unit that has the 300W PS in it. Will
>
> that
>
>>>be fine or should I find one with the 400w.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Matt
>
>
>What's your major malfunction numb nuts! You guys have no EQ Balls! You
can't commit, give me a break! EQ the hell out of it and push everything
in to the RED!!! Have some Balls you weenies!

The Gunny

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'm a total weenie when it comes to commitment. Sometimes I wake up at night
>in a cold sweat from nightmares I've had about rendering effects. Just the
>other day, I did a gain change of a segment of audio in the Paris editor
and
>I could have sworn that I saw a guy with a hockey mask and a butcher knife
>flash across the screen
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4360bb0d$1@linux...
>> i play big boy at home and commit
>>
>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> > The big boys like to commit. Saves everyone
>> > time in the end as long as it's a good decision.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net
>> > <mailto:latham_c@bellsouth.net>> wrote in message
>news:43607279@linux...
>> > Yes. Get the balance like you like it, then stripe it to one track.
>> >
>> > CL
>> >
>> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com
>> > <mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com>> wrote in message
>> > news:435e9870$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Pretty easy and common to do during mixing using another track
in
>> > Paris
>> > > Was the engineer commiting at tracking to one combined track?
>> >
>
>Yeah, I do this all the time,
Not quite the same though.


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Cujo,
>Just group the faders in Paris with chosen eq and
>'relative' selected in one of the two faders. You'll never lose=20
>the blend although it will take another track. These days
>they're a dime a dozen.
>
>But you knew that.
>T.
>
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
>news:4360ca5e$1@linux...
>
>
>
> >The big boys like to commit. Saves everyone
> >time in the end as long as it's a good decision.
>
> Funny, I was talking to DJ bout this the other day too.
> The problem with using mic pres instrwad of a quality board is how to
=
>bus
> tracks. I always want to do it with snare top and botton too..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
>
> >
> > "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =3D
> >news:43607279@linux...
> > Yes. Get the balance like you like it, then stripe it to one =
>track.
> >
> > CL
> >
> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> > news:435e9870$1@linux...
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty easy and common to do during mixing using another track in
=
>=3D
> >Paris
> > > Was the engineer commiting at tracking to one combined track?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Compression while recording? [message #59609 is a reply to message #59598] Thu, 27 October 2005 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Compression while recording? [message #59610 is a reply to message #59604] Thu, 27 October 2005 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>I thought it might have been you David. What was it???.....something about
the IDE bus being integrated into these towers or something like that?

Deej

"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4361313a$1@linux...
> I didn't even see the word "tower" in there... but yes, go with a
> rackmount unit if possible.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
> > I was warned off of these tower units by someone, I forget who, after he
> > told me that he was having all sorts of problems. I've never had an
issue
> > with my 13 slot rackmount Magma. YMMV.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:4361287e$1@linux...
> >
> >>Magama bases the supply requirements at 25W per slot, which is the
> >>most a PCI card is "supposed" to draw. Go with a 400W supply just to
> >>be safe.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>thesandbox wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am looking at a 7 slot tower unit that has the 300W PS in it. Will
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>be fine or should I find one with the 400w.
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Matt
> >
> >
> >No, it wasn't me. Doesn't make sense though, because even
the rack mount had an IDE controller on-board... doesn't it??

David.

DJ wrote:
> I thought it might have been you David. What was it???.....something about
> the IDE bus being integrated into these towers or something like that?
>
> Deej
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:4361313a$1@linux...
>
>>I didn't even see the word "tower" in there... but yes, go with a
>>rackmount unit if possible.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was warned off of these tower units by someone, I forget who, after he
>>>told me that he was having all sorts of problems. I've never had an
>
> issue
>
>>>with my 13 slot rackmount Magma. YMMV.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4361287e$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Magama bases the supply requirements at 25W per slot, which is the
>>>>most a PCI card is "supposed" to draw. Go with a 400W supply just to
>>>>be safe.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>thesandbox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am looking at a 7 slot tower unit that has the 300W PS in it. Will
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>be fine or should I find one with the 400w.
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>OOOOHHH!!!!!!.......RAHHHHH!!!!!!......... now go compress a watermelon!

;o)

"The BIG GUN!" <biggun@donteventhinkaboutitnumbnuts.com> wrote in message
news:43613a1d$1@linux...
>
> What's your major malfunction numb nuts! You guys have no EQ Balls! You
> can't commit, give me a break! EQ the hell out of it and push everything
> in to the RED!!! Have some Balls you weenies!
>
> The Gunny
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I'm a total weenie when it comes to commitment. Sometimes I wake up at
night
> >in a cold sweat from nightmares I've had about rendering effects. Just
the
> >other day, I did a gain change of a segment of audio in the Paris editor
> and
> >I could have sworn that I saw a guy with a hockey mask and a butcher
knife
> >flash across the screen
> >
> >
> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4360bb0d$1@linux...
> >> i play big boy at home and commit
> >>
> >> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> >> > The big boys like to commit. Saves everyone
> >> > time in the end as long as it's a good decision.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net
> >> > <mailto:latham_c@bellsouth.net>> wrote in message
> >news:43607279@linux...
> >> > Yes. Get the balance like you like it, then stripe it to one
track.
> >> >
> >> > CL
> >> >
> >> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com
> >> > <mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com>> wrote in message
> >> > news:435e9870$1@linux...
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Pretty easy and common to do during mixing using another track
> in
> >> > Paris
> >> > > Was the engineer commiting at tracking to one combined track?
> >> >
> >
> >I don't remember seeing any hard drive connectors in my 13 slot unit. I
think there are HD shelves and IDE connectors in the towers though. Perhaps
this causes some kind of train wreck. I wish I could remember who I was
discussing this with. At the time I was considering this I remember I was
kicking it around with you, Brian T. Aaron Allen and Derek, I think.

Well anyway, what I got out of it was that the tower worked fine for office
purposes but restricted throughput so not to go with a tower for audio.

Deej

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:4361792a$1@linux...
> No, it wasn't me. Doesn't make sense though, because even
> the rack mount had an IDE controller on-board... doesn't it??
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
> > I thought it might have been you David. What was it???.....something
about
> > the IDE bus being integrated into these towers or something like that?
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:4361313a$1@linux...
> >
> >>I didn't even see the word "tower" in there... but yes, go with a
> >>rackmount unit if possible.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>DJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I was warned off of these tower units by someone, I forget who, after
he
> >>>told me that he was having all sorts of problems. I've never had an
> >
> > issue
> >
> >>>with my 13 slot rackmount Magma. YMMV.
> >>>
> >>>Deej
> >>>
> >>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:4361287e$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Magama bases the supply requirements at 25W per slot, which is the
> >>>>most a PCI card is "supposed" to draw. Go with a 400W supply just to
> >>>>be safe.
> >>>>
> >>>>David.
> >>>>
> >>>>thesandbox wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I am looking at a 7 slot tower unit that has the 300W PS in it. Will
> >>>
> >>>that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>be fine or should I find one with the 400w.
> &
Re: Compression while recording? [message #59613 is a reply to message #59609] Thu, 27 October 2005 18:06 Go to previous message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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;
>>>
>
>LOS ANGELES (AP) - George Takei, best known for his role as Mr. Sulu in "Star
Trek," came out as homosexual in the current issue of a magazine covering
the Los Angeles gay and lesbian community. Takei told The Associated Press
on Thursday that his new onstage role as psychologist Martin Dysart in "Equus,"
helped inspire him to publicly discuss his sexuality.
Takei described the character as a "very contained but turbulently frustrated
man." The play opened Wednesday at the David Henry Hwang Theater in Los Angeles,
the same day that Frontiers magazine featured a story on Takei's coming out.
The current social and political climate also motivated Takei's disclosure,
he said.
"The world has changed from when I was a young teen feeling ashamed for being
gay," he said. "The issue of gay marriage is now a political issue. That
would have been unthinkable when I was young."
The 68-year-old actor said he and his partner, Brad Altman, have been together
for 18 years.
Takei, a Japanese-American who lived in a U.S. internment camp from age 4
to 8, said he grew up feeling ashamed of his ethnicity and sexuality. He
likened prejudice against gays to racial segregation.
"It's against basic decency and what American values stand for," he said.
Takei joined the "Star Trek" cast in 1973 as Hikaru Sulu, a character he
played for three seasons on television and in six subsequent films. He received
a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1986.
A community activist, Takei ran for the Los Angeles City Council in 1973.
He serves on the advisory committee of the California Civil Liberties Public
Education Program and is chairman of East West Players, the theater company
producing "Equus."

http://www.wjla.com/headlines/1005/272568.html
----------
<insert tasteless joke>

No, Mr Sulu.. I said set a course for Uranus,not 'your ....'

ARRGGHHHH!!!


AAHmmm... I'll have too pay a little closer attention to the
inside next time I open ours. Say, while we are on the
topic... do you have that resistor mod thingy in yours? I
wonder if that was a tech note just for the tower models...

David.

DJ wrote:

> I don't remember seeing any hard drive connectors in my 13 slot unit. I
> think there are HD shelves and IDE connectors in the towers though. Perhaps
> this causes some kind of train wreck. I wish I could remember who I was
> discussing this with. At the time I was considering this I remember I was
> kicking it around with you, Brian T. Aaron Allen and Derek, I think.
>
> Well anyway, what I got out of it was that the tower worked fine for office
> purposes but restricted throughput so not to go with a tower
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