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| Dual Processor????? [message #65365] |
Mon, 13 March 2006 14:03  |
Chris Lang
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I am toying with getting a new CPU.
If I am just using Paris, by itself, OR running simultaneously
with Cubase, do I need a dual processor??
I am thinking AMD 64, but they do sell those as a dual of course.
Thanks for the advice as always!
Chris
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65430 is a reply to message #65400] |
Wed, 15 March 2006 21:33  |
Neil
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***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
work well with a Paris card.***
I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
away from Uli - at least at this time.
Neil
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI,
>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed and
>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at most
>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work well
>with a Paris card.
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>
>> Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte and Asus
>> crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to a change
if
>> there's an equal or better out there.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:44166388$1@linux...
>>
>>>Hi Chris,
>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest a single
>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65435 is a reply to message #65430] |
Wed, 15 March 2006 21:15 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Neil,
Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats the
most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only have 2.
Chris
Neil wrote:
> ***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
> well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
> work well with a Paris card.***
>
> I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
> fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
> Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
> PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
> CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
> based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
> away from Uli - at least at this time.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>HI,
>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed and
>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at most
>
>
>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work well
>>with a Paris card.
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte and Asus
>
>
>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to a change
>
> if
>
>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>
>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>
>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest a single
>
>
>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65479 is a reply to message #65435] |
Fri, 17 March 2006 06:58 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Hey Chris...
OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
thread, it's pretty relevant:
I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
M1689 chipset.
I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
boxes.
I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
give that a shot?
So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
yet? Nothing that I can think of.
Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
Neil
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Neil,
>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats the
>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only have
2.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>> ***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>> well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>> work well with a Paris card.***
>>
>> I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>> fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>> Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>> PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>> CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>> based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>> away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>HI,
>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed and
>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at most
>>
>>
>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work well
>>>with a Paris card.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte and
Asus
>>
>>
>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to a change
>>
>> if
>>
>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>
>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>
>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest a
single
>>
>>
>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65484 is a reply to message #65479] |
Fri, 17 March 2006 07:15 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Neil,
I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far but I
assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard which
may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just doesn't
like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have at
least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are you
using an ATI X series video card?
Chris
Neil wrote:
> Hey Chris...
>
> OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
> thread, it's pretty relevant:
>
> I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
> purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
> intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
> had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
> running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
> problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
> window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
> just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
> an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
> M1689 chipset.
>
> I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
> a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
> This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
> including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
> attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
> and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
> I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
> before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
> reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>
> OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
> for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
> I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
> and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
> version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
> but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
> a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
> meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
> to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
> boxes.
>
> I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
> several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
> flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
> in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
> to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
> FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
> chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
> Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
> I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
> give that a shot?
>
> So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
> CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
> you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
> that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
> cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
> SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
> everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
> project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
> everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
> because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
> sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
> of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
> down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
> Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
> Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
> license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
> for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>
> So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
> system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
> but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
> could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
> sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
> yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>
> Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Neil,
>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>
>
>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats the
>
>
>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only have
>
> 2.
>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>
>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>HI,
>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>
>
>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed and
>
>
>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at most
>>>
>>>
>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>
>
>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work well
>
>
>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte and
>
> Asus
>
>>>
>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to a change
>>>
>>>if
>>>
>>>
>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>
>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>
>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest a
>
> single
>
>>>
>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65494 is a reply to message #65485] |
Fri, 17 March 2006 11:00 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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Hi Gene,
Not to far sense they are close to the end of the silicons tolerance.
You might try a Operton 165 also they will even higher than the 3800.
Chris
gene lennon wrote:
> Thanks Chris,
> I wonder how far the 4800 can be pushed?
> Gene
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>> It works great with all the XAMD x2 chips. My favorite combo is to
>> overclock the x2 3800 (2.0 Ghz) to 2.53Ghz which puts neck and neck with
>
>> the 4800+.. :) It also seems to work with any of the video cards I've
>> tried in it so far.
>> You do want to make sure that you are usig the newest BIOS and chipset
>> drivers. The board is really flakey with the first BIOS.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> gene lennon wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>> Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>>>
>>>> and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>
>>>> in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats the
>>>
>>>> most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only have
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Chris,
>>> What processor are you running on the A8R-MVP? I’m looking for a dependable
>>> dual that will live with UAD and Powercore cards.
>>> (Not for Paris).
>>> Gene
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65508 is a reply to message #65484] |
Sat, 18 March 2006 07:25 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
is "unstable".
Neil
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Neil,
>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far but I
>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard which
>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just doesn't
>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have at
>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are you
>using an ATI X series video card?
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>
>> Hey Chris...
>>
>> OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
>> thread, it's pretty relevant:
>>
>> I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
>> purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
>> intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
>> had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
>> running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
>> problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
>> window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
>> just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
>> an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
>> M1689 chipset.
>>
>> I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
>> a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
>> This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
>> including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
>> attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
>> and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
>> I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
>> before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
>> reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>>
>> OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
>> for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
>> I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
>> and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
>> version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
>> but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
>> a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
>> meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
>> to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
>> boxes.
>>
>> I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
>> several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
>> flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
>> in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
>> to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
>> FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
>> chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
>> Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
>> I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
>> give that a shot?
>>
>> So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
>> CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
>> you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
>> that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
>> cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
>> SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
>> everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
>> project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
>> everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
>> because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
>> sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
>> of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
>> down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
>> Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
>> Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
>> license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
>> for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>>
>> So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
>> system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
>> but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
>> could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
>> sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
>> yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>>
>> Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Neil,
>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>>
>>
>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats the
>>
>>
>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only have
>>
>> 2.
>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>>
>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>HI,
>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>
>>
>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed and
>>
>>
>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at most
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>
>>
>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work well
>>
>>
>>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte and
>>
>> Asus
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to a
change
>>>>
>>>>if
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest
a
>>
>> single
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>ADK
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
|
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65510 is a reply to message #65508] |
Sat, 18 March 2006 06:55 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
HI Neil,
If you do decide to get a new board I would suggest the A8R-MVP. Yes I
know it has ULI on it . We built appox 50 of theses so far and have had
no problems with them. I think maybe 1 or 2 bad boards which believe me
is really low.
Chris
Neil wrote:
> It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
> anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
> drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
>
> I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
> been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
> give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
> some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
> work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
> is "unstable".
>
> Neil
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Neil,
>>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far but I
>
>
>>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
>>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard which
>>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just doesn't
>
>
>>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have at
>
>
>>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are you
>
>
>>using an ATI X series video card?
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey Chris...
>>>
>>>OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
>>>thread, it's pretty relevant:
>>>
>>>I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
>>>purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
>>>intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
>>>had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
>>>running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
>>>problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
>>>window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
>>>just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
>>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
>>>M1689 chipset.
>>>
>>>I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
>>>a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
>>>This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
>>>including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
>>>attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
>>>and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
>>>I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
>>>before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
>>>reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>>>
>>>OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
>>>for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
>>>I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
>>>and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
>>>version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
>>>but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
>>>a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
>>>meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
>>>to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
>>>boxes.
>>>
>>>I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
>>>several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
>>>flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
>>>in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
>>>to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
>>>FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
>>>chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
>>>Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
>>>I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
>>>give that a shot?
>>>
>>>So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
>>>CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
>>>you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
>>>that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
>>>cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
>>>SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
>>>everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
>>>project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
>>>everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
>>>because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
>>>sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
>>>of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
>>>down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
>>>Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
>>>Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
>>>license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
>>>for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>>>
>>>So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
>>>system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
>>>but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
>>>could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
>>>sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
>>>yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>>>
>>>Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>>>
>>>
>>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>
>
>>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats the
>>>
>>>
>>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only have
>>>
>>>2.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>HI,
>>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at most
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work well
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte and
>>>
>>>Asus
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to a
>
> change
>
>>>>>if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest
>
> a
>
>>>single
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
|
|
|
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65527 is a reply to message #65510] |
Sat, 18 March 2006 20:00 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Thanks, Chris, I'll kepp that one in mind if I decide to switch,
but all "seems" to be well at the moment, at least - I've been
mixing a few cuts, and no glitches, etc. The only weird thing
that's now happening is that I have to unplug & reinsert the
dongle if I turn off the computer - which before I didn't have
to do, but I dunno if that's amobo thing or a Syncrosoft newer
driver version thing.
Neil
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Neil,
>If you do decide to get a new board I would suggest the A8R-MVP. Yes I
>know it has ULI on it . We built appox 50 of theses so far and have had
>no problems with them. I think maybe 1 or 2 bad boards which believe me
>is really low.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>> It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
>> anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
>> drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
>>
>> I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
>> been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
>> give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
>> some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
>> work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
>> is "unstable".
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Neil,
>>>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far but
I
>>
>>
>>>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
>>>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard which
>>>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just doesn't
>>
>>
>>>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have
at
>>
>>
>>>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are you
>>
>>
>>>using an ATI X series video card?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey Chris...
>>>>
>>>>OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
>>>>thread, it's pretty relevant:
>>>>
>>>>I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
>>>>purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
>>>>intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
>>>>had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
>>>>running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
>>>>problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
>>>>window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
>>>>just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
>>>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
>>>>M1689 chipset.
>>>>
>>>>I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
>>>>a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
>>>>This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
>>>>including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
>>>>attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
>>>>and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
>>>>I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
>>>>before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
>>>>reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>>>>
>>>>OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
>>>>for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
>>>>I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
>>>>and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
>>>>version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
>>>>but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
>>>>a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
>>>>meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
>>>>to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
>>>>boxes.
>>>>
>>>>I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
>>>>several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
>>>>flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
>>>>in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
>>>>to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
>>>>FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
>>>>chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
>>>>Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
>>>>I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
>>>>give that a shot?
>>>>
>>>>So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
>>>>CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
>>>>you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
>>>>that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
>>>>cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
>>>>SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
>>>>everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
>>>>project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
>>>>everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
>>>>because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
>>>>sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
>>>>of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
>>>>down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
>>>>Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
>>>>Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
>>>>license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
>>>>for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>>>>
>>>>So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
>>>>system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
>>>>but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
>>>>could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
>>>>sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
>>>>yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>>>>
>>>>Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>>
>>
>>>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats
the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only
have
>>>>
>>>>2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HI,
>>>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed
and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at
most
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work
well
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte
and
>>>>
>>>>Asus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to
a
>>
>> change
>>
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>single
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>ADK
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
|
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|
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65531 is a reply to message #65527] |
Sat, 18 March 2006 21:04 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
HI Neil,
MOre than likely the board suffers from the same issue as some of the
NForce 3 and 4 boards. They have under powered USB ports that the
syncrosoft does not like. TRy pluggin it in the a powered hub and see if
it works right.
Chris
Neil wrote:
> Thanks, Chris, I'll kepp that one in mind if I decide to switch,
> but all "seems" to be well at the moment, at least - I've been
> mixing a few cuts, and no glitches, etc. The only weird thing
> that's now happening is that I have to unplug & reinsert the
> dongle if I turn off the computer - which before I didn't have
> to do, but I dunno if that's amobo thing or a Syncrosoft newer
> driver version thing.
>
> Neil
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>HI Neil,
>>If you do decide to get a new board I would suggest the A8R-MVP. Yes I
>>know it has ULI on it . We built appox 50 of theses so far and have had
>
>
>>no problems with them. I think maybe 1 or 2 bad boards which believe me
>
>
>>is really low.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
>>>anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
>>>drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
>>>
>>>I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
>>>been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
>>>give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
>>>some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
>>>work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
>>>is "unstable".
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far but
>
> I
>
>>>
>>>>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
>>>>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard which
>
>
>>>>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just doesn't
>>>
>>>
>>>>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have
>
> at
>
>>>
>>>>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are you
>>>
>>>
>>>>using an ATI X series video card?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey Chris...
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
>>>>>thread, it's pretty relevant:
>>>>>
>>>>>I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
>>>>>purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
>>>>>intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
>>>>>had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
>>>>>running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
>>>>>problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
>>>>>window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
>>>>>just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
>>>>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
>>>>>M1689 chipset.
>>>>>
>>>>>I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
>>>>>a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
>>>>>This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
>>>>>including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
>>>>>attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
>>>>>and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
>>>>>I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
>>>>>before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
>>>>>reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
>>>>>for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
>>>>>I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
>>>>>and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
>>>>>version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
>>>>>but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
>>>>>a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
>>>>>meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
>>>>>to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
>>>>>boxes.
>>>>>
>>>>>I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
>>>>>several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
>>>>>flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
>>>>>in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
>>>>>to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
>>>>>FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
>>>>>chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
>>>>>Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
>>>>>I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
>>>>>give that a shot?
>>>>>
>>>>>So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
>>>>>CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
>>>>>you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
>>>>>that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
>>>>>cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
>>>>>SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
>>>>>everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
>>>>>project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
>>>>>everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
>>>>>because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
>>>>>sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
>>>>>of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
>>>>>down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
>>>>>Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
>>>>>Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
>>>>>license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
>>>>>for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>>>>>
>>>>>So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
>>>>>system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
>>>>>but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
>>>>>could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
>>>>>sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
>>>>>yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>>>>>
>>>>>Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I put
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats
>
> the
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only
>
> have
>
>>>>>2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HI,
>>>>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed
>
> and
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and at
>
> most
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work
>
> well
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte
>
> and
>
>>>>>Asus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to
>
> a
>
>>>change
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>single
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
|
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65537 is a reply to message #65531] |
Sun, 19 March 2006 07:23 |
IOUOI
Messages: 38
Registered: June 2007
|
Member |
|
|
Hey Chris...
I had actually heard about that issue with some boards awhile
back - I do have a PCI card with 2 Firewire & 3 USB ports on it
laying around & was thinking about trying that, but then it
occurred to me that if low-powered USB ports were the issue,
then it's unlikely that my wireless network adaptor (for my DSL
connection) would be working properly, since that's strictly
USB-powered. I'm sure it takes more juice to run that than it
does to run a USB key, and I'm getting a full-strength signal
over DSL adaptor.
I think I'll live with it as it is unless it gets too
inconsistent or annoying. Now if I were Deej...
Neil
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Neil,
> MOre than likely the board suffers from the same issue as some of the
>NForce 3 and 4 boards. They have under powered USB ports that the
>syncrosoft does not like. TRy pluggin it in the a powered hub and see if
>it works right.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Chris, I'll kepp that one in mind if I decide to switch,
>> but all "seems" to be well at the moment, at least - I've been
>> mixing a few cuts, and no glitches, etc. The only weird thing
>> that's now happening is that I have to unplug & reinsert the
>> dongle if I turn off the computer - which before I didn't have
>> to do, but I dunno if that's amobo thing or a Syncrosoft newer
>> driver version thing.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>HI Neil,
>>>If you do decide to get a new board I would suggest the A8R-MVP. Yes I
>>>know it has ULI on it . We built appox 50 of theses so far and have had
>>
>>
>>>no problems with them. I think maybe 1 or 2 bad boards which believe me
>>
>>
>>>is really low.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
>>>>anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
>>>>drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
>>>>
>>>>I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
>>>>been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
>>>>give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
>>>>some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
>>>>work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
>>>>is "unstable".
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far but
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>
>>>>>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
>>>>>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard which
>>
>>
>>>>>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just doesn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have
>>
>> at
>>
>>>>
>>>>>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are
you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>using an ATI X series video card?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Chris...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
>>>>>>thread, it's pretty relevant:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
>>>>>>purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
>>>>>>intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
>>>>>>had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
>>>>>>running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
>>>>>>problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
>>>>>>window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
>>>>>>just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
>>>>>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
>>>>>>M1689 chipset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
>>>>>>a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
>>>>>>This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
>>>>>>including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
>>>>>>attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
>>>>>>and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
>>>>>>I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
>>>>>>before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
>>>>>>reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
>>>>>>for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
>>>>>>I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
>>>>>>and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
>>>>>>version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
>>>>>>but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
>>>>>>a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
>>>>>>meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
>>>>>>to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
>>>>>>boxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
>>>>>>several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
>>>>>>flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
>>>>>>in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
>>>>>>to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
>>>>>>FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
>>>>>>chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
>>>>>>Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
>>>>>>I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
>>>>>>give that a shot?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
>>>>>>CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
>>>>>>you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
>>>>>>that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
>>>>>>cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
>>>>>>SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
>>>>>>everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
>>>>>>project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
>>>>>>everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
>>>>>>because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
>>>>>>sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
>>>>>>of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
>>>>>>down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
>>>>>>Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
>>>>>>Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
>>>>>>license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
>>>>>>for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
>>>>>>system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
>>>>>>but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
>>>>>>could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
>>>>>>sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
>>>>>>yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS A8R-MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I
put
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only
>>
>> have
>>
>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>>>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>>>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>>>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>>>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>>>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>>>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>>>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HI,
>>>>>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good choices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>>>>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed
>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and
at
>>
>> most
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work
>>
>> well
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte
>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>>Asus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>change
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would suggest
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>single
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>ADK
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65608 is a reply to message #65537] |
Tue, 21 March 2006 12:47 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
>Now if I were Deej<
.....huh???.........whaaaa????........sorry, I've been remiss in my
attendance to this thread. I think it's the Uli chipset...........I mean,
after all, Uli is Mr. Behringer's first name. that should tell you
something.
;o)
"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:441d6970$1@linux...
>
> Hey Chris...
>
> I had actually heard about that issue with some boards awhile
> back - I do have a PCI card with 2 Firewire & 3 USB ports on it
> laying around & was thinking about trying that, but then it
> occurred to me that if low-powered USB ports were the issue,
> then it's unlikely that my wireless network adaptor (for my DSL
> connection) would be working properly, since that's strictly
> USB-powered. I'm sure it takes more juice to run that than it
> does to run a USB key, and I'm getting a full-strength signal
> over DSL adaptor.
>
> I think I'll live with it as it is unless it gets too
> inconsistent or annoying. Now if I were Deej...
>
> Neil
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >HI Neil,
> > MOre than likely the board suffers from the same issue as some of the
>
> >NForce 3 and 4 boards. They have under powered USB ports that the
> >syncrosoft does not like. TRy pluggin it in the a powered hub and see if
>
> >it works right.
> >
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >Neil wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, Chris, I'll kepp that one in mind if I decide to switch,
> >> but all "seems" to be well at the moment, at least - I've been
> >> mixing a few cuts, and no glitches, etc. The only weird thing
> >> that's now happening is that I have to unplug & reinsert the
> >> dongle if I turn off the computer - which before I didn't have
> >> to do, but I dunno if that's amobo thing or a Syncrosoft newer
> >> driver version thing.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>HI Neil,
> >>>If you do decide to get a new board I would suggest the A8R-MVP. Yes I
>
> >>>know it has ULI on it . We built appox 50 of theses so far and have had
> >>
> >>
> >>>no problems with them. I think maybe 1 or 2 bad boards which believe me
> >>
> >>
> >>>is really low.
> >>>
> >>>Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Neil wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
> >>>>anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
> >>>>drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
> >>>>been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
> >>>>give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
> >>>>some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
> >>>>work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
> >>>>is "unstable".
> >>>>
> >>>>Neil
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi Neil,
> >>>>>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far
but
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
> >>>>>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard
which
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just
doesn't
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have
> >>
> >> at
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are
> you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>using an ATI X series video card?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Neil wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hey Chris...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
> >>>>>>thread, it's pretty relevant:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
> >>>>>>purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
> >>>>>>intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
> >>>>>>had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
> >>>>>>running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
> >>>>>>problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
> >>>>>>window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
> >>>>>>just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
> >>>>>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
> >>>>>>M1689 chipset.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
> >>>>>>a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
> >>>>>>This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
> >>>>>>including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
> >>>>>>attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
> >>>>>>and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
> >>>>>>I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
> >>>>>>before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
> >>>>>>reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
> >>>>>>for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
> >>>>>>I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
> >>>>>>and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
> >>>>>>version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
> >>>>>>but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
> >>>>>>a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
> >>>>>>meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
> >>>>>>to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
> >>>>>>boxes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
> >>>>>>several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
> >>>>>>flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
> >>>>>>in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
> >>>>>>to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
> >>>>>>FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
> >>>>>>chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
> >>>>>>Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
> >>>>>>I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
> >>>>>>give that a shot?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
> >>>>>>CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
> >>>>>>you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
> >>>>>>that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
> >>>>>>cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
> >>>>>>SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
> >>>>>>everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
> >>>>>>project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
> >>>>>>everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
> >>>>>>because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
> >>>>>>sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
> >>>>>>of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
> >>>>>>down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
> >>>>>>Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
> >>>>>>Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
> >>>>>>license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
> >>>>>>for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
> >>>>>>system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
> >>>>>>but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
> >>>>>>could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
> >>>>>>sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
> >>>>>>yet? Nothing that I can think of.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Neil
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi Neil,
> >>>>>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS
A8R-MVP
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I
> put
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only
> >>
> >> have
> >>
> >>>>>>2.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Chris
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Neil wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
> >>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
> >>>>>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
> >>>>>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
> >>>>>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
> >>>>>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
> >>>>>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
> >>>>>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
> >>>>>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Neil
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>HI,
> >>>>>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good
choices.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>
> >>>>>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and
> at
> >>
> >> most
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be
working
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work
> >>
> >> well
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>with a Paris card.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Chris
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >>>>>>Asus
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >>>>change
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>if
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
> >>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would
suggest
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>single
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
> >>>>>>>>>ADK
> >>>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >>>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
> >>>>>>>ADK
> >>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Chris Ludwig
> >>>>>ADK
> >>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >>>>>(859) 635-5762
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Chris Ludwig
> >>>ADK
> >>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >>>(859) 635-5762
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Chris Ludwig
> >ADK
> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >(859) 635-5762
>
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65615 is a reply to message #65608] |
Wed, 22 March 2006 06:49 |
Ne
Messages: 17
Registered: May 2007
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Junior Member |
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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Now if I were Deej<
>
>....huh???.........whaaaa????........sorry, I've been remiss in my
>attendance to this thread. I think it's the Uli chipset...........I mean,
>after all, Uli is Mr. Behringer's first name. that should tell you
>something.
DOH! Damn you, man! Now you've just doomed my chipset to
spontaneously catch fire for no apparent reason!
:)
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| Re: Was DUAL PROC, now CHIPSET????? [message #65617 is a reply to message #65608] |
Wed, 22 March 2006 05:47 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Ha
DJ wrote:
>>Now if I were Deej<
>
>
> ....huh???.........whaaaa????........sorry, I've been remiss in my
> attendance to this thread. I think it's the Uli chipset...........I mean,
> after all, Uli is Mr. Behringer's first name. that should tell you
> something.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:441d6970$1@linux...
>
>>Hey Chris...
>>
>>I had actually heard about that issue with some boards awhile
>>back - I do have a PCI card with 2 Firewire & 3 USB ports on it
>>laying around & was thinking about trying that, but then it
>>occurred to me that if low-powered USB ports were the issue,
>>then it's unlikely that my wireless network adaptor (for my DSL
>>connection) would be working properly, since that's strictly
>>USB-powered. I'm sure it takes more juice to run that than it
>>does to run a USB key, and I'm getting a full-strength signal
>>over DSL adaptor.
>>
>>I think I'll live with it as it is unless it gets too
>>inconsistent or annoying. Now if I were Deej...
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>HI Neil,
>>> MOre than likely the board suffers from the same issue as some of the
>>
>>>NForce 3 and 4 boards. They have under powered USB ports that the
>>>syncrosoft does not like. TRy pluggin it in the a powered hub and see if
>>
>>>it works right.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks, Chris, I'll kepp that one in mind if I decide to switch,
>>>>but all "seems" to be well at the moment, at least - I've been
>>>>mixing a few cuts, and no glitches, etc. The only weird thing
>>>>that's now happening is that I have to unplug & reinsert the
>>>>dongle if I turn off the computer - which before I didn't have
>>>>to do, but I dunno if that's amobo thing or a Syncrosoft newer
>>>>driver version thing.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>HI Neil,
>>>>>If you do decide to get a new board I would suggest the A8R-MVP. Yes I
>>
>>>>>know it has ULI on it . We built appox 50 of theses so far and have had
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>no problems with them. I think maybe 1 or 2 bad boards which believe me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>is really low.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a 600-watt power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem...
>>>>>>anyway, I finally got it to work... had to reload the USB
>>>>>>drivers this time, then reload the license control drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm almost tempted to just go get a new mobo since this has
>>>>>>been so flaky from the start, but now that it's working, I'll
>>>>>>give it a shot for awhile & see if it's decided to settle into
>>>>>>some level of stability... I hope so, becasue with this kind of
>>>>>>work, we all know that the only thing worse than "slow"
>>>>>>is "unstable".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>>I haven't seen anyone but you so far using this model board so far
>
> but
>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>assume you wanted to be a guinea pig for it..:)
>>>>>>>It sounds to me like you more than like have a flaky motherboard
>
> which
>
>>>>
>>>>>>>may be just that board you have or a piece of hardware that just
>
> doesn't
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>like that motherboard i.e., Ram, hard drives, video card. Do you have
>>>>
>>>>at
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>least a 450 watt PS? Most all the new board need allot of juice. Are
>>
>>you
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>using an ATI X series video card?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey Chris...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>OK, check out this rant, and considering the timing of this
>>>>>>>>thread, it's pretty relevant:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I decided recently to upgrade my mobo & CPU, because I
>>>>>>>>purchased CubaseSX v3, and apparently that app is more CPU-
>>>>>>>>intensive than the v1.xx I was running (a couple of projects I
>>>>>>>>had going were pushing the limit already, but when I tried
>>>>>>>>running them in v3, they started to glitch & have playback
>>>>>>>>problems - you could see the CPU meter in the "VST Performance"
>>>>>>>>window, go up a little more than it had in v1.xx - apparently
>>>>>>>>just enough to cause problems). So I get a new mobo/CPU combo -
>>>>>>>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ sitting on a Gigabyte GA-K8U with a ULi
>>>>>>>>M1689 chipset.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I install the new stuff, and expect the usual - a few glitches,
>>>>>>>>a handful of reboots, and we're off & running, right? Nope.
>>>>>>>>This thing has been a nightmare from day one - lots of issues,
>>>>>>>>including getting stuck in a boot loop that took me half-dozen
>>>>>>>>attempts of having to boot into "safe" mode in order to undo,
>>>>>>>>and finally, getting stuck in another boot loop, at which point
>>>>>>>>I even brought it to a service tech - never had to do that
>>>>>>>>before... ended up having to wipe the hard drive clean,
>>>>>>>>reformat, and reinstall WinXP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>OK, so now it should be OK, right? I try to install the drivers
>>>>>>>>for my RME Multiface, and no luck, the PC is not recognizing it.
>>>>>>>>I e-mail Synthax (the folks that do RME support for the US),
>>>>>>>>and they tell me that it might be my card - which is an older
>>>>>>>>version and has been known on some systems to have problems -
>>>>>>>>but the good news is for $40 and a return of my card, I can get
>>>>>>>>a factory refurb which addresses these issues. So in the
>>>>>>>>meanwhile I decide to buy a new card, since I've been wanting
>>>>>>>>to go to 16 inputs anyway & I have two of the Multiface i/o
>>>>>>>>boxes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I get the new card, install it, load the drivers, and after
>>>>>>>>several hours of trying every combination of possible drivers,
>>>>>>>>flash updates to the firmware, clearing out extraneous entries
>>>>>>>>in the ASIO portion of the system registry, and another e-mail
>>>>>>>>to Synthax just to make sure I'm not missing anything, I
>>>>>>>>FINALLY get it to work... what worked was to reinstall the
>>>>>>>>chipset drivers, THEN reinstall the RME drivers, then reboot.
>>>>>>>>Why the chipset drivers? I dunno, I just figured I'd try it.
>>>>>>>>I have major suspicions about this chipset by now, so why not
>>>>>>>>give that a shot?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So now we should be OK, right? It works, right? Nope, I install
>>>>>>>>CubaseSX v1, which you have to have residing on the PC before
>>>>>>>>you can install the v3 upgrade), install the update to v.1, and
>>>>>>>>that all works fine, USB key is recognized, etc... everything's
>>>>>>>>cool. Set a system restore point titled something like: "OMIGOD,
>>>>>>>>SX V1 IS WORKING!", and proceed to install CubaseSX v3...
>>>>>>>>everything's cool, USB license key is recognized, I open up a
>>>>>>>>project & it plays fine... open up another project, same thing,
>>>>>>>>everything's working (I'm missing some plugin's of course,
>>>>>>>>because I haven't reinstalled any of those yet) then all of a
>>>>>>>>sudden I get a glitch.... an error msg that spews out a bunch
>>>>>>>>of numbers, and I didn't have time to grab a pen & write it
>>>>>>>>down. Hmmm... SX won't re-open. OK, reboot. Now my USB License
>>>>>>>>Key isn't being recognized... and neither is the key for SX v1.
>>>>>>>>Shut down, cycle power, try again... same thing - neither
>>>>>>>>license key is being recognized. I try to reload the drivers
>>>>>>>>for the USB key, and the PC's not seeing it. ARRGH!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So, tonight I'm going to de-install SX v3, go back to the
>>>>>>>>system restore point where v1 was working, and see what I get,
>>>>>>>>but I am really suspicious of this Uli chipset now... what else
>>>>>>>>could be causing this with a clean installation of WinXP
>>>>>>>>sitting on the hard drive, and hardly any software installed
>>>>>>>>yet? Nothing that I can think of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Makes me want to switch to a Mac & you-know-what.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>>>>Haven't used that board so couldn't comment. I have use the ASUS
>
> A8R-MVP
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and it works great with UADs, Powercores, RME, Lynx or any cards I
>>
>>put
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>in it so far. Of course only 3 PCI slots are on the board but thats
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>most you'll get on a current one. The other version of the MVP only
>>>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>***The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be working
>>>>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will
>>>>>>>>>>work well with a Paris card.***
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a new Gigabyte Mobo with a Uli Chipset, and am having a
>>>>>>>>>>fucking hell of a time getting it to recognize my RME
>>>>>>>>>>Multiface... I don't know what exactly the problem is, but this
>>>>>>>>>>PC was working perfectly before, and the only variance is the
>>>>>>>>>>CPU & mobo... my last mobo was an Epox with a Via Chipset;
>>>>>>>>>>based on this experience, I would kinda tend to warn everyone
>>>>>>>>>>away from Uli - at least at this time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>HI,
>>>>>>>>>>>The ASUS a8v series and the Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939 are good
>
> choices.
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But both are discontinued sense the chipset they use aren't made
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>anymore. You can still find the boards around but mostly refurbed
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>RMA ones. All the current mobos will have PCI-E based video and
>>
>>at
>>
>>>>most
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>3 pci slots. The newer ATI/ULI chipset based boards seem to be
>
> working
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>well for UADs and POwercores so that usually means they will work
>>>>
>>>>well
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>with a Paris card.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Speaking of the AMD FX line, what chipset are the Epox, Gigabyte
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Asus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>crowds liking. I've always been partial to VIA but I am open to
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>change
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>there's an equal or better out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:44166388$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if I'd recommend Paris with a dual core. I would
>
> suggest
>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>single
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>core 4000+ a FX57 though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>ADK
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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