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OT Anyone tried Apogee Ensemble? [message #66720] Fri, 14 April 2006 18:03 Go to next message
Bill Lorentzen is currently offline  Bill Lorentzen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2005
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My client uses Logic and the Ensemble sounds like a good fit. Any hands on
experience anyone?

Here's the overall scenario: We have an Apogee AD16X (16 channel AD
converter), an RME card in the computer which accepts the Apogee's ADAT I/Os
and a Motu 828 Mk 2 rack unit which runs in/out of the Mac via FW.

I want to improve the DA conversion, which is currently the DA in the Motu.
I was originally looking at a UA 2092, a Benchmark DAC1 or a Prism DA2 -
something along those lines for the DA converters, then I ran across the new
Ensemble which is supposed to be a good fit with Logic.

Problem is I have no idea of the quality of the DA converters. Plus we don't
really need the 4 mic pres (rack of Neves). Still, being able to integrate
the AD 16X and Ensemble in the same routing software would be very
convenient and we could maybe lose the RME and the MOTU altogether.

Any comments?
Re: OT Anyone tried Apogee Ensemble? [message #66722 is a reply to message #66720] Fri, 14 April 2006 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
uptown jimmy is currently offline  uptown jimmy   UNITED STATES
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People are raving about its potential online, though it's not widely
available yet. First run is already sold, with folks lining up for the
second run.

FWIW.

Sounds like a ProTools killer to me. We'll see.

Given the reputations of the two parties, I'd call it a no-brainer.


"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message news:444045b2@linux...
> My client uses Logic and the Ensemble sounds like a good fit. Any hands on
> experience anyone?
>
> Here's the overall scenario: We have an Apogee AD16X (16 channel AD
> converter), an RME card in the computer which accepts the Apogee's ADAT
I/Os
> and a Motu 828 Mk 2 rack unit which runs in/out of the Mac via FW.
>
> I want to improve the DA conversion, which is currently the DA in the
Motu.
> I was originally looking at a UA 2092, a Benchmark DAC1 or a Prism DA2 -
> something along those lines for the DA converters, then I ran across the
new
> Ensemble which is supposed to be a good fit with Logic.
>
> Problem is I have no idea of the quality of the DA converters. Plus we
don't
> really need the 4 mic pres (rack of Neves). Still, being able to integrate
> the AD 16X and Ensemble in the same routing software would be very
> convenient and we could maybe lose the RME and the MOTU altogether.
>
> Any comments?
>
>
Re: OT Anyone tried Apogee Ensemble? [message #66725 is a reply to message #66722] Fri, 14 April 2006 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Lorentzen is currently offline  Bill Lorentzen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2005
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I did a little more research and there seems to be some problems with the FW
drivers - they don't work. Problems w/ core audio apparently on Apple's end.
I remember when i bought the AD16X Apogee told me not to use the FW I/O
because they could not get the drivers to work, and this seems to be the
same problem. Hmmm. Bummer.


"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:44404dbe$1@linux...
> People are raving about its potential online, though it's not widely
> available yet. First run is already sold, with folks lining up for the
> second run.
>
> FWIW.
>
> Sounds like a ProTools killer to me. We'll see.
>
> Given the reputations of the two parties, I'd call it a no-brainer.
>
>
> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
> news:444045b2@linux...
>> My client uses Logic and the Ensemble sounds like a good fit. Any hands
>> on
>> experience anyone?
>>
>> Here's the overall scenario: We have an Apogee AD16X (16 channel AD
>> converter), an RME card in the computer which accepts the Apogee's ADAT
> I/Os
>> and a Motu 828 Mk 2 rack unit which runs in/out of the Mac via FW.
>>
>> I want to improve the DA conversion, which is currently the DA in the
> Motu.
>> I was originally looking at a UA 2092, a Benchmark DAC1 or a Prism DA2 -
>> something along those lines for the DA converters, then I ran across the
> new
>> Ensemble which is supposed to be a good fit with Logic.
>>
>> Problem is I have no idea of the quality of the DA converters. Plus we
> don't
>> really need the 4 mic pres (rack of Neves). Still, being able to
>> integrate
>> the AD 16X and Ensemble in the same routing software would be very
>> convenient and we could maybe lose the RME and the MOTU altogether.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>>
>
>
Re: OT Anyone tried Apogee Ensemble? [message #66733 is a reply to message #66725] Fri, 14 April 2006 22:17 Go to previous message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Hey Bill,
I guess it's on to either Apogee 16DAX or BenchMarks new DA converter. You
can't go wrong with either choice.

"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote:
>I did a little more research and there seems to be some problems with the
FW
>drivers - they don't work. Problems w/ core audio apparently on Apple's
end.
>I remember when i bought the AD16X Apogee told me not to use the FW I/O

>because they could not get the drivers to work, and this seems to be the

>same problem. Hmmm. Bummer.
>
>
>"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:44404dbe$1@linux...
>> People are raving about its potential online, though it's not widely
>> available yet. First run is already sold, with folks lining up for the
>> second run.
>>
>> FWIW.
>>
>> Sounds like a ProTools killer to me. We'll see.
>>
>> Given the reputations of the two parties, I'd call it a no-brainer.
>>
>>
>> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
>> news:444045b2@linux...
>>> My client uses Logic and the Ensemble sounds like a good fit. Any hands

>>> on
>>> experience anyone?
>>>
>>> Here's the overall scenario: We have an Apogee AD16X (16 channel AD
>>> converter), an RME card in the computer which accepts the Apogee's ADAT
>> I/Os
>>> and a Motu 828 Mk 2 rack unit which runs in/out of the Mac via FW.
>>>
>>> I want to improve the DA conversion, which is currently the DA in the
>> Motu.
>>> I was originally looking at a UA 2092, a Benchmark DAC1 or a Prism DA2
-
>>> something along those lines for the DA converters, then I ran across
the
>> new
>>> Ensemble which is supposed to be a good fit with Logic.
>>>
>>> Problem is I have no idea of the quality of the DA converters. Plus we
>> don't
>>> really need the 4 mic pres (rack of Neves). Still, being able to
>>> integrate
>>> the AD 16X and Ensemble in the same routing software would be very
>>> convenient and we could maybe lose the RME and the MOTU altogether.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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