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| Wavelab and dithering question [message #70136] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 07:30  |
cujo
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Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you place
on the master bus on the montage mode?
Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode permanently
change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate bunch
of files?
I don't know if I am making sense here.
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70147 is a reply to message #70141] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 11:36  |
cujo
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John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and it is
way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each "track"
in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time inbetween
just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add UAD plugs
to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now, I would
bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY how
i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses Roxio
for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and you can
not nudge..
Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on that
has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL the
output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange EQ
thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix in
WL!
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
>this montage thing?
>
>cujo wrote:
>> For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do all
the
>> songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping so
I wondered
>> if it was the more "pro" option.
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>>>
>>>cujo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you place
>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
>>>>
>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode permanently
>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
bunch
>>>>of files?
>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70160 is a reply to message #70147] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 18:43 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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Hi Cujo and John,
Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is a
stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
of August.
In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send volume
control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use outboard
gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
Chris
Cujo wrote:
> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and it is
> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each "track"
> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time inbetween
> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add UAD plugs
> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now, I would
> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY how
> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses Roxio
> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and you can
> not nudge..
>
> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on that
> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL the
> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange EQ
> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix in
> WL!
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
>
>
>>this montage thing?
>>
>>cujo wrote:
>>
>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do all
>
> the
>
>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping so
>
> I wondered
>
>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
>>>
>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>>>>
>>>>cujo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you place
>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
>>>>>
>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode permanently
>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
>
> bunch
>
>>>>>of files?
>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70170 is a reply to message #70160] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 07:36 |
cujo
Messages: 285
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What would a decent USB interface be?
The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Cujo and John,
>Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
>board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
>sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
>Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
>Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is a
>stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
>competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
>of August.
>
>In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
>sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send volume
>control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
>chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use outboard
>gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Cujo wrote:
>> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and it
is
>> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each "track"
>> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time inbetween
>> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add UAD
plugs
>> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now, I would
>> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY
how
>> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses Roxio
>> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and you
can
>> not nudge..
>>
>> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on that
>> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL the
>> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange
EQ
>> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix
in
>> WL!
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
>>
>>
>>>this montage thing?
>>>
>>>cujo wrote:
>>>
>>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do all
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping so
>>
>> I wondered
>>
>>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>>>>>
>>>>>cujo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you
place
>>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode permanently
>>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
>>
>> bunch
>>
>>>>>>of files?
>>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70172 is a reply to message #70170] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 08:02 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:44b265f3$1@linux...
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>
> What would a decent USB interface be?
>
> The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
>
external FX???.....if so, then you are using the most recent version.
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >Hi Cujo and John,
> >Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
> >board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
> >sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
> >Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
> >Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is a
>
> >stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
> >competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
> >of August.
> >
> >In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
> >sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send volume
>
> >control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
> >chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use outboard
>
> >gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
> >
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >Cujo wrote:
> >> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and it
> is
> >> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each
"track"
> >> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time
inbetween
> >> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add UAD
> plugs
> >> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now, I
would
> >> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY
> how
> >> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses
Roxio
> >> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and you
> can
> >> not nudge..
> >>
> >> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on
that
> >> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL
the
> >> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange
> EQ
> >> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix
> in
> >> WL!
> >>
> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
> >>
> >>
> >>>this montage thing?
> >>>
> >>>cujo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do all
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping so
> >>
> >> I wondered
> >>
> >>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
> >>>>
> >>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>cujo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you
> place
> >>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode
permanently
> >>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
> >>
> >> bunch
> >>
> >>>>>>of files?
> >>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Ludwig
> >ADK
> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70176 is a reply to message #70172] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 08:50 |
cujo
Messages: 285
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Oh, no not that, that would be nice, I meant UAD stuff and the like.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:44b265f3$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> What would a decent USB interface be?
>>
>> The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
>>
>
>external FX???.....if so, then you are using the most recent version.
>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> >Hi Cujo and John,
>> >Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
>> >board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
>> >sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
>> >Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
>> >Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is
a
>>
>> >stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
>> >competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
>> >of August.
>> >
>> >In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
>> >sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send volume
>>
>> >control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
>> >chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use outboard
>>
>> >gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
>> >
>> >
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >Cujo wrote:
>> >> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and
it
>> is
>> >> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each
>"track"
>> >> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time
>inbetween
>> >> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add
UAD
>> plugs
>> >> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now,
I
>would
>> >> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY
>> how
>> >> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses
>Roxio
>> >> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and
you
>> can
>> >> not nudge..
>> >>
>> >> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on
>that
>> >> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL
>the
>> >> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange
>> EQ
>> >> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix
>> in
>> >> WL!
>> >>
>> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>this montage thing?
>> >>>
>> >>>cujo wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do
all
>> >>
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping
so
>> >>
>> >> I wondered
>> >>
>> >>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>cujo wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug
you
>> place
>> >>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode
>permanently
>> >>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
>> >>
>> >> bunch
>> >>
>> >>>>>>of files?
>> >>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Chris Ludwig
>> >ADK
>> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> >www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> >(859) 635-5762
>
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70178 is a reply to message #70176] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 08:56 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Right. I've considered upgrading to the newer version so I can insert a
hardware reverbs before the limiter in a mastering scenario.
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:44b27732$1@linux...
>
>
> Oh, no not that, that would be nice, I meant UAD stuff and the like.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> >news:44b265f3$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> What would a decent USB interface be?
> >>
> >> The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
> >>
> >
> >external FX???.....if so, then you are using the most recent version.
> >
> >> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >> >Hi Cujo and John,
> >> >Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
> >> >board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
> >> >sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
> >> >Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
> >> >Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is
> a
> >>
> >> >stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
> >> >competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
> >> >of August.
> >> >
> >> >In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
> >> >sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send
volume
> >>
> >> >control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
> >> >chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use
outboard
> >>
> >> >gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Cujo wrote:
> >> >> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and
> it
> >> is
> >> >> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each
> >"track"
> >> >> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time
> >inbetween
> >> >> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add
> UAD
> >> plugs
> >> >> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now,
> I
> >would
> >> >> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD
EXACTLY
> >> how
> >> >> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses
> >Roxio
> >> >> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and
> you
> >> can
> >> >> not nudge..
> >> >>
> >> >> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on
> >that
> >> >> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL
> >the
> >> >> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some
strange
> >> EQ
> >> >> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the
mix
> >> in
> >> >> WL!
> >> >>
> >> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab,
what's
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>this montage thing?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>cujo wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do
> all
> >> >>
> >> >> the
> >> >>
> >> >>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping
> so
> >> >>
> >> >> I wondered
> >> >>
> >> >>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>cujo wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug
> you
> >> place
> >> >>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode
> >permanently
> >> >>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a
seperate
> >> >>
> >> >> bunch
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>of files?
> >> >>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Chris Ludwig
> >> >ADK
> >> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >> >www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >> >(859) 635-5762
> >
> >
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70184 is a reply to message #70178] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 09:38 |
cujo
Messages: 285
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I am using just the essentials it is about a 6 months old, would the essentails
allow this? My next gear goal (goooooooaaaaaaaal!) is possibly a Merc 1968
for the stereo buss.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Right. I've considered upgrading to the newer version so I can insert a
>hardware reverbs before the limiter in a mastering scenario.
>
> "Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:44b27732$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Oh, no not that, that would be nice, I meant UAD stuff and the like.
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> >news:44b265f3$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What would a decent USB interface be?
>> >>
>> >> The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
>> >>
>> >
>> >external FX???.....if so, then you are using the most recent version.
>> >
>> >> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> >> >Hi Cujo and John,
>> >> >Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all
on
>> >> >board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
>> >> >sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
>> >> >Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
>> >> >Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that
is
>> a
>> >>
>> >> >stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
>> >> >competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in
end
>> >> >of August.
>> >> >
>> >> >In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
>> >> >sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send
>volume
>> >>
>> >> >control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
>> >> >chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use
>outboard
>> >>
>> >> >gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Chris
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Cujo wrote:
>> >> >> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and
>> it
>> >> is
>> >> >> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each
>> >"track"
>> >> >> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time
>> >inbetween
>> >> >> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add
>> UAD
>> >> plugs
>> >> >> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now,
>> I
>> >would
>> >> >> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD
>EXACTLY
>> >> how
>> >> >> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses
>> >Roxio
>> >> >> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and
>> you
>> >> can
>> >> >> not nudge..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked
on
>> >that
>> >> >> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using
WL
>> >the
>> >> >> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some
>strange
>> >> EQ
>> >> >> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the
>mix
>> >> in
>> >> >> WL!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab,
>what's
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>this montage thing?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>cujo wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can
do
>> all
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping
>> so
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I wondered
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>cujo wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug
>> you
>> >> place
>> >> >>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode
>> >permanently
>> >> >>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a
>seperate
>> >> >>
>> >> >> bunch
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>>>of files?
>> >> >>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Chris Ludwig
>> >> >ADK
>> >> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> >> >www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> >> >(859) 635-5762
>> >
>> >
>
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70200 is a reply to message #70184] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 16:09 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Cujo,
Only the Full version of Wavelab offers the external effects option.
POssibly the upcoming Wavelab Studio version will also but haven't seen
a concrete list of features yet on that version to know for sure.
Chris
Cujo wrote:
> I am using just the essentials it is about a 6 months old, would the essentails
> allow this? My next gear goal (goooooooaaaaaaaal!) is possibly a Merc 1968
> for the stereo buss.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> Right. I've considered upgrading to the newer version so I can insert a
>> hardware reverbs before the limiter in a mastering scenario.
>>
>> "Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:44b27732$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Oh, no not that, that would be nice, I meant UAD stuff and the like.
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>> "Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:44b265f3$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> What would a decent USB interface be?
>>>>>
>>>>> The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
>>>>>
>>>> external FX???.....if so, then you are using the most recent version.
>>>>
>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Cujo and John,
>>>>>> Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all
> on
>>>>>> board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
>>>>>> sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
>>>>>> Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
>>>>>> Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that
> is
>>> a
>>>>>> stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
>>>>>> competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in
> end
>>>>>> of August.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
>>>>>> sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send
>> volume
>>>>>> control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
>>>>>> chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use
>> outboard
>>>>>> gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cujo wrote:
>>>>>>> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and
>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each
>>>> "track"
>>>>>>> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time
>>>> inbetween
>>>>>>> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add
>>> UAD
>>>>> plugs
>>>>>>> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now,
>>> I
>>>> would
>>>>>>> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD
>> EXACTLY
>>>>> how
>>>>>>> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses
>>>> Roxio
>>>>>>> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and
>>> you
>>>>> can
>>>>>>> not nudge..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked
> on
>>>> that
>>>>>>> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using
> WL
>>>> the
>>>>>>> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some
>> strange
>>>>> EQ
>>>>>>> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the
>> mix
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> WL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab,
>> what's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this montage thing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cujo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can
> do
>>> all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping
>>> so
>>>>>>> I wondered
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if it was the more "pro" option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cujo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug
>>> you
>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>>> on the master bus on the montage mode?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode
>>>> permanently
>>>>>>>>>>> change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a
>> seperate
>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of files?
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if I am making sense here.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>> ADK
>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70257 is a reply to message #70245] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 06:05 |
cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Hmm, I just put raised whites on my Honda Element, I think they look cooler
on that car.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Well, it's not a bad choice by any means, I'm just not sure how you're going
>to park it on top of the computer or insert it into the bitstream.
>AA
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:44b28298$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I am using just the essentials it is about a 6 months old, would the
>> essentails
>> allow this? My next gear goal (goooooooaaaaaaaal!) is possibly a Merc
1968
>> for the stereo buss.
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>Right. I've considered upgrading to the newer version so I can insert
a
>>>hardware reverbs before the limiter in a mastering scenario.
>>>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>
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