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No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73864] Wed, 11 October 2006 15:20 Go to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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I finally ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to NVidia
GEForce 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM per
head and stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass slow by
comparison and the Nvidia drivers feel much more stable than the Matrox
drivers ever did.

Deej
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73865 is a reply to message #73864] Wed, 11 October 2006 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Deej,
Lamont has suggested the UAD-1 plugs and Waves SSL plugs
will work much better with the shnazzier video card. I'm thinking
of tan upgrade also. Did your IRQs change with the video card
swap?
Tom
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452d6e25$1@linux...
I finally ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to =
NVidia
GEForce 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM =
per
head and stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass =
slow by
comparison and the Nvidia drivers feel much more stable than the =
Matrox
drivers ever did.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of tan upgrade also.&nbsp; Did your =
IRQs change=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>swap?</FONT></DIV>
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per<BR>head and=20
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Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73869 is a reply to message #73864] Wed, 11 October 2006 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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Yep...

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>I finally ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to NVidia
>GEForce 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM per
>head and stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass slow
by
>comparison and the Nvidia drivers feel much more stable than the Matrox
>drivers ever did.
>
>Deej
>
>
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73870 is a reply to message #73865] Wed, 11 October 2006 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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Not the UAD plugs. The UAD PCI card is a Video Card per se.. I say that you
will get better performance with the SSL bundle with a better video card

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Deej,
>Lamont has suggested the UAD-1 plugs and Waves SSL plugs
>will work much better with the shnazzier video card. I'm thinking
>of tan upgrade also. Did your IRQs change with the video card
>swap?
>Tom
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452d6e25$1@linux...
> I finally ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to =
>NVidia
> GEForce 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM
=
>per
> head and stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass =
>slow by
> comparison and the Nvidia drivers feel much more stable than the =
>Matrox
> drivers ever did.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lamont has suggested the UAD-1 plugs =
>and Waves SSL=20
>plugs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will work much better with the =
>shnazzier video=20
>card.  I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of tan upgrade also.  Did your =
>IRQs change=20
>with the video card</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>swap?</FONT></DIV>
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>finally=20
> ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to =
>NVidia<BR>GEForce=20
> 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM =
>per<BR>head and=20
> stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass slow=20
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Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73873 is a reply to message #73864] Wed, 11 October 2006 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Deej, did you find PCI and AGP versions? If so, lead me on bro, my old
matrox cards have ticked me off for the last time if I can find a testament
like the one I think this is.
AA


"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452d6e25$1@linux...
>I finally ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to NVidia
> GEForce 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM per
> head and stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass slow
> by
> comparison and the Nvidia drivers feel much more stable than the Matrox
> drivers ever did.
>
> Deej
>
>
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73877 is a reply to message #73873] Wed, 11 October 2006 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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AAron...here's where I got mine:

http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQfromZR
10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0

http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Fook %2DV008

These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and load the (most
recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the PCI card. It
will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both cards in
the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP card wouldn't
load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, logical person
would, and it worked quite nicely.

What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my screens or
dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the major CPU hit
that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI card. With the
old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running on the PCI
card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window during playback
could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a heavy
session.

Deej

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:452d8789@linux...
> Deej, did you find PCI and AGP versions? If so, lead me on bro, my old
> matrox cards have ticked me off for the last time if I can find a
testament
> like the one I think this is.
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452d6e25$1@linux...
> >I finally ditched my last Matrox video cards on my DAWs. Upgraded to
NVidia
> > GEForce 5500 dual heads on everything now. It's nice having 128MB vRAM
per
> > head and stable drivers. Those old 32MB per head G450's were dogass slow
> > by
> > comparison and the Nvidia drivers feel much more stable than the Matrox
> > drivers ever did.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
>
>
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73880 is a reply to message #73877] Wed, 11 October 2006 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>AAron...here's where I got mine:
>
> http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQfromZR
>10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0
>
> http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Fook %2DV008
>
>These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and load the (most
>recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the PCI card. It
>will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both cards
in
>the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP card wouldn't
>load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, logical person
>would, and it worked quite nicely.
>
>What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my screens or
>dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the major CPU
hit
>that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI card. With
the
>old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running on the PCI
>card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window during playback
>could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a heavy
>session.
>
>Deej
>

DJ
If you have any extra CPU cycles in that Geforce, you might want to check
this out.

http://tinyurl.com/nmm3p
Gene
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73909 is a reply to message #73880] Thu, 12 October 2006 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aaron allen[1] is currently offline  aaron allen[1]
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Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by chance (preferrably
no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My antiquated Paris rig needs VGA only, heh.. what
a surprise, 'eh?
AA


>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>AAron...here's where I got mine:
>>
>> http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQfromZR
>>10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0
>>
>> http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Fook %2DV008
>>
>>These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and load the (most
>>recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the PCI card.
It
>>will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both cards
>in
>>the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP card wouldn't
>>load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, logical person
>>would, and it worked quite nicely.
>>
>>What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my screens or
>>dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the major CPU
>hit
>>that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI card. With
>the
>>old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running on the PCI
>>card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window during playback
>>could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a heavy
>>session.
>>
>>Deej
>>
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73911 is a reply to message #73909] Thu, 12 October 2006 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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I picked up two DVI/VGA adapters. They did not come with the cards. Also,
I've been testing some screen drags with big windows today. I'm getting 100%
CPU spikes on the PCI card when dragging a full sized mixer window at 1200 x
1600 resolution (dammit!!! ;o( . This is sorta disappointing, but hey,
overall performance otherwiae, as in general stability of the driver, is
much, much improved. I'll be blaying around with my color settings and
performance settings to see if I can mitigate this some. I've conditioned
myself to be careful about screen dragging during tracking anyway, but in a
perfect world...........maybe something like a Colorgraphics Predator Pro
AGP? Not a lot of VRam on one of those and I'm not sure about the drivers
either....especially for win 9x.


"aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote in message news:452e766d$1@linux...
>
> Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by chance
(preferrably
> no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My antiquated Paris rig needs VGA only, heh..
what
> a surprise, 'eh?
> AA
>
>
> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >>AAron...here's where I got mine:
> >>
>
>> http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQfrom
ZR
> >>10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0
> >>
> >> http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Fook %2DV008
> >>
> >>These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and load the
(most
> >>recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the PCI card.
> It
> >>will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both cards
> >in
> >>the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP card wouldn't
> >>load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, logical
person
> >>would, and it worked quite nicely.
> >>
> >>What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my screens or
> >>dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the major CPU
> >hit
> >>that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI card. With
> >the
> >>old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running on the
PCI
> >>card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window during
playback
> >>could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a heavy
> >>session.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
>
Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73917 is a reply to message #73911] Thu, 12 October 2006 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Deej,
Macro Express has prevented the need for screen drags for me.
Are you using that? It's worth it's weight in gold.
Tom
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452e7f0a@linux...
I picked up two DVI/VGA adapters. They did not come with the cards. =
Also,
I've been testing some screen drags with big windows today. I'm =
getting 100%
CPU spikes on the PCI card when dragging a full sized mixer window at =
1200 x
1600 resolution (dammit!!! ;o( . This is sorta disappointing, but hey,
overall performance otherwiae, as in general stability of the driver, =
is
much, much improved. I'll be blaying around with my color settings and
performance settings to see if I can mitigate this some. I've =
conditioned
myself to be careful about screen dragging during tracking anyway, but =
in a
perfect world...........maybe something like a Colorgraphics Predator =
Pro
AGP? Not a lot of VRam on one of those and I'm not sure about the =
drivers
either....especially for win 9x.


"aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote in message news:452e766d$1@linux...
>
> Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by =
chance
(preferrably
> no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My antiquated Paris rig needs VGA only, =
heh..
what
> a surprise, 'eh?
> AA
>
>
> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >>AAron...here's where I got mine:
> >>
>
=
>> http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQf=
rom
ZR
> >>10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0
> >>
> =
>> http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DFo ok%2DV008
> >>
> >>These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and load =
the
(most
> >>recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the PCI =
card.
> It
> >>will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both =
cards
> >in
> >>the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP card =
wouldn't
> >>load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, logical
person
> >>would, and it worked quite nicely.
> >>
> >>What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my screens =
or
> >>dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the =
major CPU
> >hit
> >>that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI =
card. With
> >the
> >>old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running on =
the
PCI
> >>card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window =
during
playback
> >>could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a =
heavy
> >>session.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
>




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Macro Express has prevented the need =
for screen=20
drags for me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you using that?&nbsp; It's worth =
it's weight in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Also,<BR>I've been=20
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href=3D"mailto:notachance@net.net">notachance@net.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;AAron...here's where I got mine:<BR>&gt;=20
=
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driver for=20
it first. Then install the PCI card.<BR>&gt; It<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;will =
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but the=20
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card.=20
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mouse=20
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momentary spike and dragging a large window during<BR>playback<BR>&gt; =

&gt;&gt;could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a =

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Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73919 is a reply to message #73917] Thu, 12 October 2006 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've never taken the time to figure out how to use it. Will it =
intimidate me and make me feel inferior and "wusslike"?

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:452e86ef$1@linux...
Deej,
Macro Express has prevented the need for screen drags for me.
Are you using that? It's worth it's weight in gold.
Tom
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452e7f0a@linux...
I picked up two DVI/VGA adapters. They did not come with the cards. =
Also,
I've been testing some screen drags with big windows today. I'm =
getting 100%
CPU spikes on the PCI card when dragging a full sized mixer window =
at 1200 x
1600 resolution (dammit!!! ;o( . This is sorta disappointing, but =
hey,
overall performance otherwiae, as in general stability of the =
driver, is
much, much improved. I'll be blaying around with my color settings =
and
performance settings to see if I can mitigate this some. I've =
conditioned
myself to be careful about screen dragging during tracking anyway, =
but in a
perfect world...........maybe something like a Colorgraphics =
Predator Pro
AGP? Not a lot of VRam on one of those and I'm not sure about the =
drivers
either....especially for win 9x.


"aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote in message =
news:452e766d$1@linux...
>
> Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by =
chance
(preferrably
> no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My antiquated Paris rig needs VGA only, =
heh..
what
> a surprise, 'eh?
> AA
>
>
> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >>AAron...here's where I got mine:
> >>
>
=
>> http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQf=
rom
ZR
> >>10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0
> >>
> =
>> http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DFo ok%2DV008
> >>
> >>These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and load =
the
(most
> >>recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the PCI =
card.
> It
> >>will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed =
both cards
> >in
> >>the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP card =
wouldn't
> >>load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, =
logical
person
> >>would, and it worked quite nicely.
> >>
> >>What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my =
screens or
> >>dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the =
major CPU
> >hit
> >>that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI =
card. With
> >the
> >>old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running =
on the
PCI
> >>card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window =
during
playback
> >>could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a =
heavy
> >>session.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
>




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Macro Express has prevented the need =
for screen=20
drags for me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you using that?&nbsp; It's worth =
it's weight=20
in gold.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:notachance@net.net">notachance@net.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:452e7f0a@linux">news:452e7f0a@linux</A>...</DIV>I =
picked up two=20
DVI/VGA adapters. They did not come with the cards.&nbsp; =
Also,<BR>I've been=20
testing some screen drags with big windows today. I'm getting =
100%<BR>CPU=20
spikes on the PCI card when dragging a full sized mixer window at =
1200=20
x<BR>1600 resolution (dammit!!! ;o( . This is sorta disappointing, =
but=20
hey,<BR>overall performance otherwiae, as in general stability of =
the=20
driver, is<BR>much, much improved. I'll be blaying around with my =
color=20
settings and<BR>performance settings to see if I can mitigate this =
some.=20
I've conditioned<BR>myself to be careful about screen dragging =
during=20
tracking anyway, but in a<BR>perfect world...........maybe something =
like a=20
Colorgraphics Predator Pro<BR>AGP? Not a lot of VRam on one of those =
and I'm=20
not sure about the drivers<BR>either....especially for win=20
9x.<BR><BR><BR>"aaron allen" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@spam.net">no@spam.net</A>&gt; wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:452e766d$1@linux">news:452e766d$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&g=
t;=20
Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by=20
chance<BR>(preferrably<BR>&gt; no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My =
antiquated Paris=20
rig needs VGA only, heh..<BR>what<BR>&gt; a surprise, 'eh?<BR>&gt;=20
AA<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;"DJ" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:notachance@net.net">notachance@net.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;AAron...here's where I got mine:<BR>&gt;=20
=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_=
W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ9QQfclZ4QQfrom<BR>ZR<BR>&gt;=20
=
&gt;&gt;10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32 437342QQsofpZ0 <BR>&gt=
;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
=
&gt;&gt; http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DFo ok%2D=
V008<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;These cards are sweet. Be sure to install =
the AGP=20
card and load the<BR>(most<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;recent NVidia unified) =
driver for=20
it first. Then install the PCI card.<BR>&gt; It<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;will =
use the=20
same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both cards<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;in<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card =
loaded but=20
the AGP card wouldn't<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;load so I uninstalled the =
drivers,=20
then behaved as a sane, logical<BR>person<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;would, and =
it=20
worked quite nicely.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;What is cool =
about=20
this is when I drag the mouse across my screens or<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;dragging=20
windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the major =
CPU<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;hit<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;that I got with the screens that were =
running on the=20
G450 PCI card. With<BR>&gt; &gt;the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;old Matrox =
cards, the=20
minute the mouse touched the GUI running on the<BR>PCI<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;card=20
there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window=20
during<BR>playback<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;could cause a farily serious =
surge,=20
enough to worry about in a heavy<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;session.<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;Deej<BR>&gt; =
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Re: No mo' Matrox pour moi..... [message #73922 is a reply to message #73919] Thu, 12 October 2006 12:26 Go to previous message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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It will give you all the power Luke.

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452e8bf6@linux...
I've never taken the time to figure out how to use it. Will it =
intimidate me and make me feel inferior and "wusslike"?

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:452e86ef$1@linux...
Deej,
Macro Express has prevented the need for screen drags for me.
Are you using that? It's worth it's weight in gold.
Tom
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452e7f0a@linux...
I picked up two DVI/VGA adapters. They did not come with the =
cards. Also,
I've been testing some screen drags with big windows today. I'm =
getting 100%
CPU spikes on the PCI card when dragging a full sized mixer window =
at 1200 x
1600 resolution (dammit!!! ;o( . This is sorta disappointing, but =
hey,
overall performance otherwiae, as in general stability of the =
driver, is
much, much improved. I'll be blaying around with my color settings =
and
performance settings to see if I can mitigate this some. I've =
conditioned
myself to be careful about screen dragging during tracking anyway, =
but in a
perfect world...........maybe something like a Colorgraphics =
Predator Pro
AGP? Not a lot of VRam on one of those and I'm not sure about the =
drivers
either....especially for win 9x.


"aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote in message =
news:452e766d$1@linux...
>
> Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by =
chance
(preferrably
> no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My antiquated Paris rig needs VGA only, =
heh..
what
> a surprise, 'eh?
> AA
>
>
> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >>AAron...here's where I got mine:
> >>
>
=
>> http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ 9QQfclZ4QQf=
rom
ZR
> >>10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32437342QQsofpZ0
> >>
> =
>> http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DFo ok%2DV008
> >>
> >>These cards are sweet. Be sure to install the AGP card and =
load the
(most
> >>recent NVidia unified) driver for it first. Then install the =
PCI card.
> It
> >>will use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed =
both cards
> >in
> >>the mobo, fired her up and the PCI card loaded but the AGP =
card wouldn't
> >>load so I uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, =
logical
person
> >>would, and it worked quite nicely.
> >>
> >>What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my =
screens or
> >>dragging windows around dring playback, I get nothing like the =
major CPU
> >hit
> >>that I got with the screens that were running on the G450 PCI =
card. With
> >the
> >>old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse touched the GUI running =
on the
PCI
> >>card there was a momentary spike and dragging a large window =
during
playback
> >>could cause a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a =
heavy
> >>session.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
>




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"wusslike"?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
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href=3D"news:452e86ef$1@linux">news:452e86ef$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Macro Express has prevented the =
need for screen=20
drags for me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you using that?&nbsp; It's =
worth it's=20
weight in gold.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"DJ" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:notachance@net.net">notachance@net.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:452e7f0a@linux">news:452e7f0a@linux</A>...</DIV>I=20
picked up two DVI/VGA adapters. They did not come with the =
cards.&nbsp;=20
Also,<BR>I've been testing some screen drags with big windows =
today. I'm=20
getting 100%<BR>CPU spikes on the PCI card when dragging a full =
sized=20
mixer window at 1200 x<BR>1600 resolution (dammit!!! ;o( . This is =
sorta=20
disappointing, but hey,<BR>overall performance otherwiae, as in =
general=20
stability of the driver, is<BR>much, much improved. I'll be =
blaying around=20
with my color settings and<BR>performance settings to see if I can =

mitigate this some. I've conditioned<BR>myself to be careful about =
screen=20
dragging during tracking anyway, but in a<BR>perfect =
world...........maybe=20
something like a Colorgraphics Predator Pro<BR>AGP? Not a lot of =
VRam on=20
one of those and I'm not sure about the =
drivers<BR>either....especially=20
for win 9x.<BR><BR><BR>"aaron allen" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@spam.net">no@spam.net</A>&gt; wrote in message =
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:452e766d$1@linux">news:452e766d$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&g=
t;=20
Deej, did both those vid cards come capable of all VGA output by=20
chance<BR>(preferrably<BR>&gt; no DVI to VGA adaptors)? My =
antiquated=20
Paris rig needs VGA only, heh..<BR>what<BR>&gt; a surprise, =
'eh?<BR>&gt;=20
AA<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;"DJ" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:notachance@net.net">notachance@net.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;AAron...here's where I got mine:<BR>&gt;=20
=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;http://search.stores.ebay.com/ImageStore_v29_=
W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZ9QQfclZ4QQfrom<BR>ZR<BR>&gt;=20
=
&gt;&gt;10QQfsnZImageStoreQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ32 437342QQsofpZ0 <BR>&gt=
;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
=
&gt;&gt; http://www.fookstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3DFo ok%2D=
V008<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;These cards are sweet. Be sure to install =
the AGP=20
card and load the<BR>(most<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;recent NVidia unified) =
driver=20
for it first. Then install the PCI card.<BR>&gt; It<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;will=20
use the same driver. In my usual fashion, I just crammed both=20
cards<BR>&gt; &gt;in<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;the mobo, fired her up and =
the PCI=20
card loaded but the AGP card wouldn't<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;load so I=20
uninstalled the drivers, then behaved as a sane, =
logical<BR>person<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;would, and it worked quite nicely.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;What is cool about this is when I drag the mouse across my =
screens=20
or<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;dragging windows around dring playback, I get =
nothing=20
like the major CPU<BR>&gt; &gt;hit<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;that I got with =
the=20
screens that were running on the G450 PCI card. With<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;the<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;old Matrox cards, the minute the mouse =
touched the=20
GUI running on the<BR>PCI<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;card there was a =
momentary spike=20
and dragging a large window during<BR>playback<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;could cause=20
a farily serious surge, enough to worry about in a heavy<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;session.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;Deej<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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