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Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85625 is a reply to message #85601]

Wed, 30 May 2007 07:52

LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

James, we agree but disagree.. I believe that Health Care should be free to
all Americans.. AND, if you pay into SS, you should some kind of pay-off.

However, it's afact that when people go out to Vegas to invest their money,
the outcome is usuallly bad. The average american does not no how to invest
in the market. That would be like wall street preying on the weak and innocent.
basically robing them (us)..

Also, the Canadian medial system was poor(second rate) before they went national.
By going national, only did it polarize what was already known..

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>LaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on Bush.
>
>My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list for
things
>like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work there, and
>it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
>everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or free healthcare.
> It should only be for American citizens!
>
>Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing it to
pay
>for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't touch
it
>because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should be that
>the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!! They should
>have split programs where you can have it invested in different accounts
>so that it's diversified.
>
>The mentality that the government should take care of you is a bad one.

>The free ride in this country is going to be over soon!!!!!!!!
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>You got it..
>>Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they prefer
>>free health care and social security???
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do,
>>will
>>>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
>>>
>>>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
>>>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their
protesting.
>>> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not
the
>>>real people of Venezuela.
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>>>
>>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
>>>ruler
>>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>>
>>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to
be
>>>comunist
>>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
>>>their
>>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
>>>not
>>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>>>that's
>>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's
>>to
>>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people
will
>>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and watch
>>south
>>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>>
>>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or
are
>>>>you
>>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
>>gas/water
>>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>>>after
>>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of
pulling
>>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out
I
>>had
>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71%
was
>>>>water,
>>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all
>of
>>>>the
>>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
>>responsible
>>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>>>their
>>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It
took
>>>>>about
>>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
>>a
>>>>choice,
>>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>>owner
>>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their
tanks.
>>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many
reports
>>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over
>town.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>>>>to
>>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
>>I
>>>>am
>>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
>>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>>not
>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>>just
>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
>country.
>>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
>the
>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
>best
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>>he
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>>as
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you
read
>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>>by
>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>>for
>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>>has
>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
>at:
>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>>due
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>>of
>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
>be
>>>>used
>>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
>start
>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
>of
>>>>free
>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>>of
>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move
that
>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN
DUE
>>>>TO
>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>>100%
>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>>PASSED
>>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>>OF
>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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