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| Re: My New Mix... [message #85976 is a reply to message #85965] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 09:40   |
Neil
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The guitars sound pretty... very harp-like. I'd have the player
re-do the solo, though. I think I would prefer the singer just
an eensy bit more forward & with a splash less reverb, although
I know a lot of music of this nature is drowing in it (doesn't
mean that your mix has to, though).
What was your signal chain on the vox? Sounds like to had to do
a bit more de-essing than you might have wanted to (or is she
from Catalonia lol)?
Neil
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>All,
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>I have posted my mix at:
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>http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html
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>Please give it a listen and give your opinions good, bad or indifferent.
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>--=20
>Thanks,
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>Brandon
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>All,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have posted my mix at:</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
>href=3D"http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html">http://mymixes.zoomshare.com=
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Please give it a listen and give your opinions =
>good, bad=20
>or indifferent.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial>
><DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
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><DIV>Brandon </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #85981 is a reply to message #85976] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 10:03 |
brandon[2]
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"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46644094$1@linux...
I'd have the player re-do the solo, though.=20
Cause of the blotched notes?
I think I would prefer the singer just
an eensy bit more forward & with a splash less reverb.
noted.
What was your signal chain on the vox? Sounds like to had to do
a bit more de-essing than you might have wanted to (or is she
from Catalonia lol)?
CAD VX2 tube LDC thru the RNC to disk.
Then EQ and an L2. with a send to an aux with SIR
Then an Antares Tube plug to warm it up on the stereo bus another =
stereo EQ and another L2.
Neil
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>All,
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>I have posted my mix at:
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>http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html
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>Please give it a listen and give your opinions good, bad or =
indifferent.
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>--=3D20
>Thanks,
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>Brandon=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>I have posted my mix at:</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><A=3D20
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>href=3D3D"http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html">http://mymixes.zoomshare.=
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>or indifferent.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>
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<DIV>I'd have the player re-do the solo, though. </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Cause of the blotched =
notes?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I think I would prefer the singer just<BR>an eensy bit more =
forward &=20
with a splash less reverb.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>noted.</FONT></DIV><FONT=20
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<DIV><BR>What was your signal chain on the vox? Sounds like to had to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>CAD VX2 tube LDC thru the RNC =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Then EQ and an L2. with a send =
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L2.</FONT><BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Brandon " <<A=20
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #85996 is a reply to message #85995] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 13:11 |
brandon[2]
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lol
that's the same answer that ran thru my head after I sent the message.
No but seriously I was just curious so I could determine what peoples =
opinions are in
relation to the speakers they are listening thru.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46647196$1@linux...
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>What kinda speakers you listening thru?
The kind that any of your mixes should be able to translate to.
:D !!!
(ok, they're Harmon-Kardon computer speakers - decent ones.
I think they're a five-way, and they have bass ports, and oil-
cooled tweets)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>that's the same answer that ran thru my head =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No but seriously I was just curious so I could =
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thru.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86002 is a reply to message #85996] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 14:01 |
Cujjo
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I was thinking along the lines of Neil, that the guitars sound really nice,
but I may lay back a teensie bit on the picky part in the high end.
Also, I dug the verb on the vox but wondered if a teeny bit more predelay
would be in order.
Also I too wanted the vox out a bit more, as well as the harmony, I want
to hear that more for sure,
I thought I heard a ducking for a split second in the lead vox about halfway
through the song.
But all in all, I'd be happy if it were my mix. Subjective stuff.
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>lol
>that's the same answer that ran thru my head after I sent the message.
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>No but seriously I was just curious so I could determine what peoples =
>opinions are in
>relation to the speakers they are listening thru.
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>--=20
>Thanks,
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>Brandon=20
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46647196$1@linux...
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> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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> >Neil,=3D20
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> >What kinda speakers you listening thru?
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> The kind that any of your mixes should be able to translate to.
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> :D !!!
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> (ok, they're Harmon-Kardon computer speakers - decent ones.
> I think they're a five-way, and they have bass ports, and oil-
> cooled tweets)
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>lol</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>that's the same answer that ran thru my head =
>after I sent=20
>the message.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No but seriously I was just curious so I could =
>determine=20
>what peoples opinions are in</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>relation to the speakers they are listening=20
>thru.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Brandon </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>"Neil" <<A href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com">OIUOIU@OIU.com</A>> =
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>speakers you=20
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86012 is a reply to message #86002] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 16:34 |
Paul Braun
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On 5 Jun 2007 07:01:40 +1000, "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>I was thinking along the lines of Neil, that the guitars sound really nice,
>but I may lay back a teensie bit on the picky part in the high end.
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>Also, I dug the verb on the vox but wondered if a teeny bit more predelay
>would be in order.
>Also I too wanted the vox out a bit more, as well as the harmony, I want
>to hear that more for sure,
>
>I thought I heard a ducking for a split second in the lead vox about halfway
>through the song.
>
>But all in all, I'd be happy if it were my mix. Subjective stuff.
>
Agreed. The guitars have a nice round, warm sound with a touch of
room. But yes, probably de-pickify a bit.
Yes, pull the vox out towards the front a bit more.
I also heard either ducking or some comp pumping on the vox. You
using Supernice on the RNC? Supernice is, well, super nice.
I listened on my Event Project-8 monitors.
One thing though - maybe it's the vocal chain, but after listening
three times through, I still can't make out the words she's singing.
Sounds like it's a whole other language....
;-P
pab
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86013 is a reply to message #86002] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 16:43 |
brandon[2]
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Cujo,
>I was thinking along the lines of Neil, that the guitars sound really nice,
>but I may lay back a teensie bit on the picky part in the high end.
>
I have redone the mix and EQd the verb a bit.
I stripped out everything below 250hz and gradually
rammped up. This cleaned up a lot of mud and really increased clarity. I
think it makes the highs on the guitars POP more since they got the verb.
>Also, I dug the verb on the vox but wondered if a teeny bit more predelay
>would be in order.
I have not even messed with the predelay to be honest. I know it is very
important part of getting a good verb sound. The vox sound a lot different
now without so much low end verb. See what you think of the next one.
>Also I too wanted the vox out a bit more, as well as the harmony, I want
>to hear that more for sure,
I still havent increased dbs on the vox. See what you think of the second
mix (i will post later tonite)
>
>I thought I heard a ducking for a split second in the lead vox about halfway
>through the song.
You are probably right. A few of the peaks I brought down with automation...
I may need to tweak a couple to smooth it out.
>
>But all in all, I'd be happy if it were my mix. Subjective stuff.
Thank Cujo...I appreciate your input.
The second mix I found some things I could improve upon like Lead guiar EQ,
verb tweaks, limiting settings here and there, etc... I took the Antares
Tube out completely, but that isnt what was causing the crackling I am hearing
on the loud vocal passes. I am going to have to look at my signal chain and
see if there is some clipping somewhere.
Brandon
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>>lol
>>that's the same answer that ran thru my head after I sent the message.
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>>No but seriously I was just curious so I could determine what peoples =
>>opinions are in
>>relation to the speakers they are listening thru.
>>
>>--=20
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Brandon=20
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46647196$1@linux...
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>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>> >
>> >Neil,=3D20
>> >
>> >What kinda speakers you listening thru?
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>> The kind that any of your mixes should be able to translate to.
>>
>> :D !!!
>>
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>> (ok, they're Harmon-Kardon computer speakers - decent ones.
>> I think they're a five-way, and they have bass ports, and oil-
>> cooled tweets)
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>lol</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>that's the same answer that ran thru my head =
>>after I sent=20
>>the message.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No but seriously I was just curious so I could
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>>determine=20
>>what peoples opinions are in</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>relation to the speakers they are listening=20
>>thru.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Brandon </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>"Neil" <<A href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com">OIUOIU@OIU.com</A>> =
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>>speakers you=20
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>>to=20
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>>five-way,=20
>> and they have bass ports, and oil-<BR>cooled =
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86015 is a reply to message #86002] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 16:39 |
Martin Harrington
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I thought the mix was good.
I agree with Cujo though, I would like to have heard a little more pre delay
on the lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing vox.
All in all, a nice mix.
Bare in mind, i'm only listening on "half"decent generic computer monitors.
Well done
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:46647db4$1@linux...
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>
> I was thinking along the lines of Neil, that the guitars sound really
> nice,
> but I may lay back a teensie bit on the picky part in the high end.
>
> Also, I dug the verb on the vox but wondered if a teeny bit more predelay
> would be in order.
> Also I too wanted the vox out a bit more, as well as the harmony, I want
> to hear that more for sure,
>
> I thought I heard a ducking for a split second in the lead vox about
> halfway
> through the song.
>
> But all in all, I'd be happy if it were my mix. Subjective stuff.
>
>
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>lol
>>that's the same answer that ran thru my head after I sent the message.
>>
>>No but seriously I was just curious so I could determine what peoples =
>>opinions are in
>>relation to the speakers they are listening thru.
>>
>>--=20
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Brandon=20
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46647196$1@linux...
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Neil,=3D20
>> >
>> >What kinda speakers you listening thru?
>>
>> The kind that any of your mixes should be able to translate to.
>>
>> :D !!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (ok, they're Harmon-Kardon computer speakers - decent ones.
>> I think they're a five-way, and they have bass ports, and oil-
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>lol</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>that's the same answer that ran thru my head =
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No but seriously I was just curious so I could =
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
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>><DIV>Brandon </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>"Neil" <<A href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com">OIUOIU@OIU.com</A>> =
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86044 is a reply to message #85965] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 21:51 |
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Sounds real purty to me. I agree with the suggestions on the reverb. =
I, too, wanted to hear the vocals more, but mostly just in certain =
passages. If it was me, I'd just ride/program the fader to keep the =
voice just on top of the mix, but I'm kind of obsessive that way. :)
Sarah
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:46642626$1@linux...
All,
I have posted my mix at:
http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html
Please give it a listen and give your opinions good, bad or =
indifferent.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sarah</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have posted my mix at:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
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href=3D"http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html">http://mymixes.zoomshare.com=
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good, bad=20
or indifferent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86058 is a reply to message #86023] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 05:46 |
Cujjo
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Brandon, I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing the mood
too.
I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at first I thought they both
could come up just a tad more but when I turned up the volume on my speakers
it sat better.
Is that a nylon string guitar? Will the song be mastered?
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>So guys... I have listened intently to the suggestions you made.
>I do hear the need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, and
the
>need for louder harmony vox.
>
>I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in regards to verb.
>I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.
>I am very grateful for all your help.
>
>I cant wait to tweak it tomorrow!
>
>b
>
>
>
>
>
>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>>
>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels like giving it a listen.
>>b
>>
>>
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Martin,
>>>
>>>Thanks for contributing.
>>>
>>>>I thought the mix was good.
>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to have heard a little more pre
>>delay
>>>
>>>>on the lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing vox.
>>>
>>>I will check out the predelay.
>>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of those backing vox phrases...I
>>>think that is why I got them so low...just got tired of making edits and
>>>wanted to start mixing.
>>>
>>>>All in all, a nice mix.
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only listening on "half"decent generic computer monitors.
>>>
>>>thx
>>>
>>>b
>>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86060 is a reply to message #86058] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 05:54 |
brandon[2]
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Yes all guitars are nylon string.
What are you talkin about ....it is mastered?!!! :-)
I doubt it will be mastered.
This particular song is a wedding present for a friend of the singer.
Nothing meant for distribution.
I didn't charge them anything.
The guitarist is like a brother to me and the singer is his band mate...
well X-bandmate. Their band just broke up.
Around here it seems that studio recording has a tendancy of disolving =
bands.
I think it is because everyine finally talks about the direction=20
they want to go with the music and discover that they don't have the =
same goals.
Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of change into a recording =
studio here..
they haven't received a finished product and now they are no more.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
news:46655b0d$1@linux...
Brandon, I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing =
the mood
too.
I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at first I thought they =
both
could come up just a tad more but when I turned up the volume on my =
speakers
it sat better.
Is that a nylon string guitar? Will the song be mastered?
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>So guys... I have listened intently to the suggestions you made.
>I do hear the need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, =
and
the
>need for louder harmony vox.
>
>I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in regards to verb.
>I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.
>I am very grateful for all your help.
>
>I cant wait to tweak it tomorrow!
>
>b
>
>
>
>
>
>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>>
>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels like giving it a listen.
>>b
>>
>>
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Martin,
>>>
>>>Thanks for contributing.
>>>
>>>>I thought the mix was good.
>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to have heard a little more =
pre
>>delay
>>>
>>>>on the lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing vox.
>>>
>>>I will check out the predelay.=20
>>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of those backing vox =
phrases...I
>>>think that is why I got them so low...just got tired of making =
edits and
>>>wanted to start mixing.
>>>
>>>>All in all, a nice mix.
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only listening on "half"decent generic computer =
monitors.
>>>
>>>thx
>>>
>>>b
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Yes all guitars are nylon string.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What are you talkin about ....it is mastered?!!! =
:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I doubt it will be mastered.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This particular song is a wedding present for a =
friend of=20
the singer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nothing meant for distribution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I didn't charge them anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The guitarist is like a brother to me and the =
singer is=20
his band mate...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>well X-bandmate. Their band just broke =
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Around here it seems that studio recording has a =
tendancy=20
of disolving bands.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I think it is because everyine finally talks =
about the=20
direction </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they want to go with the music and discover that =
they=20
don't have the same goals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of =
change into=20
a recording studio here..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they haven't received a finished product and now =
they are=20
no more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com">chris@applemanstudio.com</A>>=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46655b0d$1@linux">news:46655b0d$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Brandon,=20
I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing the=20
mood<BR>too.<BR>I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at =
first I=20
thought they both<BR>could come up just a tad more but when I turned =
up the=20
volume on my speakers<BR>it sat better.<BR>Is that a nylon string =
guitar? Will=20
the song be mastered?<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>So =
guys... I have=20
listened intently to the suggestions you made.<BR>>I do hear the =
need for=20
predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, and<BR>the<BR>>need =
for louder=20
harmony vox.<BR>><BR>>I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in =
regards to=20
verb.<BR>>I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.<BR>>I =
am very=20
grateful for all your help.<BR>><BR>>I cant wait to tweak it=20
=
tomorrow!<BR>><BR>>b<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>=
;"Brandon"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:A@A.com">A@A.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels =
like giving=20
it a=20
=
listen.<BR>>>b<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>><BR>>>"Bran=
don"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>Martin, <BR>>>><BR>>>=
>Thanks=20
for contributing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>I thought the mix =
was=20
good.<BR>>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to =
have heard=20
a little more =
pre<BR>>>delay<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>on the=20
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vox.<BR>>>><BR>>>>I will check out the predelay.=20
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those=20
backing vox phrases...I<BR>>>>think that is why I got them so =
low...just got tired of making edits and<BR>>>>wanted to =
start=20
mixing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>All in all, a nice=20
mix.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Thank=20
you.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only =
listening on=20
"half"decent generic computer=20
=
monitors.<BR>>>><BR>>>>thx <BR>>>><BR>>>&=
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86062 is a reply to message #86060] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 05:58 |
brandon[2]
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HEy Cujo,
I would be interested to hear it mastered though.
I know you do this correct?
What would you charge to give this track a once over?
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:46655ecf@linux...
Yes all guitars are nylon string.
What are you talkin about ....it is mastered?!!! :-)
I doubt it will be mastered.
This particular song is a wedding present for a friend of the singer.
Nothing meant for distribution.
I didn't charge them anything.
The guitarist is like a brother to me and the singer is his band =
mate...
well X-bandmate. Their band just broke up.
Around here it seems that studio recording has a tendancy of disolving =
bands.
I think it is because everyine finally talks about the direction=20
they want to go with the music and discover that they don't have the =
same goals.
Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of change into a recording =
studio here..
they haven't received a finished product and now they are no more.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
news:46655b0d$1@linux...
Brandon, I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing =
the mood
too.
I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at first I thought =
they both
could come up just a tad more but when I turned up the volume on my =
speakers
it sat better.
Is that a nylon string guitar? Will the song be mastered?
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>So guys... I have listened intently to the suggestions you made.
>I do hear the need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, =
and
the
>need for louder harmony vox.
>
>I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in regards to verb.
>I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.
>I am very grateful for all your help.
>
>I cant wait to tweak it tomorrow!
>
>b
>
>
>
>
>
>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>>
>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels like giving it a listen.
>>b
>>
>>
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Martin,
>>>
>>>Thanks for contributing.
>>>
>>>>I thought the mix was good.
>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to have heard a little =
more pre
>>delay
>>>
>>>>on the lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing vox.
>>>
>>>I will check out the predelay.=20
>>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of those backing =
vox phrases...I
>>>think that is why I got them so low...just got tired of making =
edits and
>>>wanted to start mixing.
>>>
>>>>All in all, a nice mix.
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only listening on "half"decent generic =
computer monitors.
>>>
>>>thx
>>>
>>>b
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>HEy Cujo,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I would be interested to hear it mastered=20
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I know you do this correct?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What would you charge to give this track a once=20
over?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Brandon" <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:46655ecf@linux">news:46655ecf@linux</A>...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Yes all guitars are nylon string.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What are you talkin about ....it is =
mastered?!!!=20
:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I doubt it will be mastered.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This particular song is a wedding present for =
a friend=20
of the singer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nothing meant for distribution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I didn't charge them anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The guitarist is like a brother to me and the =
singer is=20
his band mate...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>well X-bandmate. Their band just broke =
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Around here it seems that studio recording has =
a=20
tendancy of disolving bands.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I think it is because everyine finally talks =
about the=20
direction </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they want to go with the music and discover =
that they=20
don't have the same goals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of =
change=20
into a recording studio here..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they haven't received a finished product and =
now they=20
are no more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com">chris@applemanstudio.com</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:46655b0d$1@linux">news:46655b0d$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Brandon,=20
I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing the=20
mood<BR>too.<BR>I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at =
first I=20
thought they both<BR>could come up just a tad more but when I turned =
up the=20
volume on my speakers<BR>it sat better.<BR>Is that a nylon string =
guitar?=20
Will the song be mastered?<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>So =
guys... I=20
have listened intently to the suggestions you made.<BR>>I do hear =
the=20
need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, =
and<BR>the<BR>>need=20
for louder harmony vox.<BR>><BR>>I do personally like the =
dryer MIX2=20
in regards to verb.<BR>>I am going to edit the before mentioned=20
issues.<BR>>I am very grateful for all your =
help.<BR>><BR>>I cant=20
wait to tweak it=20
=
tomorrow!<BR>><BR>>b<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>=
;"Brandon"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:A@A.com">A@A.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels =
like=20
giving it a=20
=
listen.<BR>>>b<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>><BR>>>"Bran=
don"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>Martin, <BR>>>><BR>>>=
>Thanks=20
for contributing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>I thought the =
mix was=20
good.<BR>>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to =
have=20
heard a little more=20
pre<BR>>>delay<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>on the lead =
vox and=20
maybe a little more wash on the backing=20
vox.<BR>>>><BR>>>>I will check out the predelay.=20
<BR>>>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of =
those=20
backing vox phrases...I<BR>>>>think that is why I got them =
so=20
low...just got tired of making edits and<BR>>>>wanted to =
start=20
mixing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>All in all, a nice=20
mix.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Thank=20
you.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only =
listening on=20
"half"decent generic computer=20
=
monitors.<BR>>>><BR>>>>thx <BR>>>><BR>>>&=
gt;b<BR>>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86064 is a reply to message #86060] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 06:56 |
Neil
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"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>Around here it seems that studio recording has a tendancy of
>disolving bands. I think it is because everyine finally talks
>about the direction they want to go with the music and discover
>that they don't have the same goals.
It's not just around there, it's a fairly common phenomenon,
IME. Sometimes it's because they discover they don't have the
same goals, as you mention, but more often it's due to things
like:
a.) They think all they need to get noticed & break out is a
good recording, and when their killer demo's been circulating
for a year & they still don't have a record deal, a bandmember
or two starts to lose interest & quits, then another, etc.
b.) They discover they're not so hot shit after all... like for
example, all the thousands of "hardcore fans" that they thought
they had - you know, all the ones that show up to every club
gig and are constantly telling them how great they are - don't
seem to be hardcore enough to put their money where their mouth
is & buy a CD. So they press a thousand CD's & sell a few big
batches at the first few gigs after the CD comes out, but then
a year goes by & they still have 700 left out of the 1000 they
pressed. Depression hits, bandmembers split, etc.
c.) It's a young-ish band that's been garaging & gigging for
awhile & they think they sound great - all their friends & fans
tell them so, after all - and then they start recording & all
the clams & bad-timing issues that you don't necessarily notice
live (because in a live environment five seconds after you've
tried to play that riff you can never play right, or rushed the
fill on that break for the umpteenth time, everyone's forgotten
about it; but when recording, they obviously show up again &
again on every single playback) start rearing their ugly heads.
So the alpha band-guy starts getting on the other guys' case
about this, trying to get them to step up & get tight, and this
carries beyond the studio, and pretty soon the relationship
between bandmambers has changed - the dynamic is no
longer "he's our guitarist" (it's usually a guitarist) it's
now: "he's trying to take over the band" or some such thing...
tensions develop, bandmembers quit or get fired, etc.
I've seen all of these things happen.
Neil
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86068 is a reply to message #86044] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 07:12 |
brandon[2]
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Fricken guitar players!!!
They always want to run the show...
I know because I am one..
and I always try to ..:-)
The few bands I was in .. the drummers hated me, because I would tell =
them the beat they were playing
didn't fit. Ofcourse they took offense to this..I don't know why????
My friends band that I mentioned earilier broke up because of him..
He is the guitarist... Well I wont say it was because of him...the =
drummer
....well Bongo player...wanted to be the producer and was very =
controling..
over the mix... Well needless to say my friend didn't like being told =
his guitars need to be turned
down....So conversations like" Wait!!..your the Bongo player...right?" =
"Who are you again?...The Bongo player?"
After that the bongo player quit the band.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
news:4664ed80@linux...
Sounds real purty to me. I agree with the suggestions on the reverb. =
I, too, wanted to hear the vocals more, but mostly just in certain =
passages. If it was me, I'd just ride/program the fader to keep the =
voice just on top of the mix, but I'm kind of obsessive that way. :)
Sarah
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:46642626$1@linux...
All,
I have posted my mix at:
http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html
Please give it a listen and give your opinions good, bad or =
indifferent.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Fricken guitar players!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>They always want to run the show...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I know because I am one..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>and I always try to ..:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The few bands I was in .. the drummers hated me, =
because I=20
would tell them the beat they were playing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>didn't fit. Ofcourse they took offense to =
this..I don't=20
know why????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>My friends band that I mentioned earilier broke =
up because=20
of him..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>He is the guitarist... Well I wont say it was =
because of=20
him...the drummer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>...well Bongo player...wanted to be the =
producer and=20
was very controling..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>over the mix... Well needless to say my friend =
didn't like=20
being told his guitars need to be turned</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>down....So conversations like" Wait!!..your the =
Bongo=20
player...right?" "Who are you again?...The Bongo player?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>After that the bongo player quit the =
band.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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=
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href=3D"news:4664ed80@linux">news:4664ed80@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds real purty to me. I =
agree with the=20
suggestions on the reverb. I, too, wanted to hear the vocals =
more, but=20
mostly just in certain passages. If it was me, I'd just=20
ride/program the fader to keep the voice just on top of =
the=20
mix, but I'm kind of obsessive that way. :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sarah</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Brandon" <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46642626$1@linux">news:46642626$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have posted my mix at:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
=
href=3D"http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html">http://mymixes.zoomshare.com=
/5.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Please give it a listen and give your =
opinions good,=20
bad or indifferent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86078 is a reply to message #86060] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 09:50 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
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Man, they'll love the song.
Heheh, I have had more than one break up happen after a studio session.
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yes all guitars are nylon string.
>What are you talkin about ....it is mastered?!!! :-)
>I doubt it will be mastered.
>This particular song is a wedding present for a friend of the singer.
>Nothing meant for distribution.
>I didn't charge them anything.
>The guitarist is like a brother to me and the singer is his band mate...
>well X-bandmate. Their band just broke up.
>Around here it seems that studio recording has a tendancy of disolving =
>bands.
>I think it is because everyine finally talks about the direction=20
>they want to go with the music and discover that they don't have the =
>same goals.
>Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of change into a recording =
>studio here..
>they haven't received a finished product and now they are no more.
>
>
>--=20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon=20
>
>
>
> "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
>news:46655b0d$1@linux...
>
>
> Brandon, I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing =
>the mood
> too.
> I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at first I thought they
=
>both
> could come up just a tad more but when I turned up the volume on my =
>speakers
> it sat better.
> Is that a nylon string guitar? Will the song be mastered?
>
>
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >
> >So guys... I have listened intently to the suggestions you made.
> >I do hear the need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, =
>and
> the
> >need for louder harmony vox.
> >
> >I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in regards to verb.
> >I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.
> >I am very grateful for all your help.
> >
> >I cant wait to tweak it tomorrow!
> >
> >b
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels like giving it a listen.
> >>b
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Martin,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for contributing.
> >>>
> >>>>I thought the mix was good.
> >>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to have heard a little more
=
>pre
> >>delay
> >>>
> >>>>on the lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing vox.
> >>>
> >>>I will check out the predelay.=20
> >>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of those backing vox
=
>phrases...I
> >>>think that is why I got them so low...just got tired of making =
>edits and
> >>>wanted to start mixing.
> >>>
> >>>>All in all, a nice mix.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you.
> >>>
> >>>>Bare in mind, i'm only listening on "half"decent generic computer
=
>monitors.
> >>>
> >>>thx
> >>>
> >>>b
> >>
> >
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Yes all guitars are nylon string.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What are you talkin about ....it is mastered?!!!
=
>
>:-)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I doubt it will be mastered.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This particular song is a wedding present for a
=
>friend of=20
>the singer.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nothing meant for distribution.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I didn't charge them anything.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The guitarist is like a brother to me and the =
>singer is=20
>his band mate...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>well X-bandmate. Their band just broke =
>up.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Around here it seems that studio recording has a
=
>tendancy=20
>of disolving bands.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I think it is because everyine finally talks =
>about the=20
>direction </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they want to go with the music and discover that
=
>they=20
>don't have the same goals.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of =
>change into=20
>a recording studio here..</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they haven't received a finished product and now
=
>they are=20
>no more.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Brandon </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Cujo" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com">chris@applemanstudio.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:46655b0d$1@linux">news:46655b0d$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>Brandon,=20
> I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing the=20
> mood<BR>too.<BR>I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at =
>first I=20
> thought they both<BR>could come up just a tad more but when I turned =
>up the=20
> volume on my speakers<BR>it sat better.<BR>Is that a nylon string =
>guitar? Will=20
> the song be mastered?<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>So =
>guys... I have=20
> listened intently to the suggestions you made.<BR>>I do hear the =
>need for=20
> predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, and<BR>the<BR>>need =
>for louder=20
> harmony vox.<BR>><BR>>I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in =
>regards to=20
> verb.<BR>>I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.<BR>>I =
>am very=20
> grateful for all your help.<BR>><BR>>I cant wait to tweak it=20
> =
>tomorrow!<BR>><BR>>b<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>=
>;"Brandon"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:A@A.com">A@A.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels =
>like giving=20
> it a=20
> =
>listen.<BR>>>b<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>"Bran=
>don"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>Martin,<BR>>>><BR>>>=
>>Thanks=20
> for contributing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>I thought the mix =
>was=20
> good.<BR>>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to =
>have heard=20
> a little more =
>pre<BR>>>delay<BR>>>><BR>>>>>on the=20
> lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing=20
> vox.<BR>>>><BR>>>>I will check out the predelay.=20
> <BR>>>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of =
>those=20
> backing vox phrases...I<BR>>>>think that is why I got them so =
>
> low...just got tired of making edits and<BR>>>>wanted to =
>start=20
> mixing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>All in all, a nice=20
> mix.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Thank=20
> you.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only =
>listening on=20
> "half"decent generic computer=20
> =
>monitors.<BR>>>><BR>>>>thx<BR>>>><BR>>>&=
>gt;b<BR>>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86079 is a reply to message #86062] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 09:51 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
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Oh shit, I aint no mastering guy.
Dave Collins does one of songs for 100 bucks..he is great too.
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>HEy Cujo,
>
>I would be interested to hear it mastered though.
>I know you do this correct?
>What would you charge to give this track a once over?
>
>
>--=20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon=20
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:46655ecf@linux...
> Yes all guitars are nylon string.
> What are you talkin about ....it is mastered?!!! :-)
> I doubt it will be mastered.
> This particular song is a wedding present for a friend of the singer.
> Nothing meant for distribution.
> I didn't charge them anything.
> The guitarist is like a brother to me and the singer is his band =
>mate...
> well X-bandmate. Their band just broke up.
> Around here it seems that studio recording has a tendancy of disolving
=
>bands.
> I think it is because everyine finally talks about the direction=20
> they want to go with the music and discover that they don't have the =
>same goals.
> Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of change into a recording
=
>studio here..
> they haven't received a finished product and now they are no more.
>
>
> --=20
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon=20
>
>
>
> "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
>news:46655b0d$1@linux...
>
>
> Brandon, I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing
=
>the mood
> too.
> I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at first I thought =
>they both
> could come up just a tad more but when I turned up the volume on my
=
>speakers
> it sat better.
> Is that a nylon string guitar? Will the song be mastered?
>
>
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >
> >So guys... I have listened intently to the suggestions you made.
> >I do hear the need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar,
=
>and
> the
> >need for louder harmony vox.
> >
> >I do personally like the dryer MIX2 in regards to verb.
> >I am going to edit the before mentioned issues.
> >I am very grateful for all your help.
> >
> >I cant wait to tweak it tomorrow!
> >
> >b
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels like giving it a listen.
> >>b
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Martin,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for contributing.
> >>>
> >>>>I thought the mix was good.
> >>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to have heard a little =
>more pre
> >>delay
> >>>
> >>>>on the lead vox and maybe a little more wash on the backing vox.
> >>>
> >>>I will check out the predelay.=20
> >>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of those backing =
>vox phrases...I
> >>>think that is why I got them so low...just got tired of making =
>edits and
> >>>wanted to start mixing.
> >>>
> >>>>All in all, a nice mix.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you.
> >>>
> >>>>Bare in mind, i'm only listening on "half"decent generic =
>computer monitors.
> >>>
> >>>thx
> >>>
> >>>b
> >>
> >
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>HEy Cujo,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I would be interested to hear it mastered=20
>though.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I know you do this correct?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What would you charge to give this track a once=20
>over?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Brandon </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>"Brandon" <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
>href=3D"news:46655ecf@linux">news:46655ecf@linux</A>...</DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Yes all guitars are nylon string.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What are you talkin about ....it is =
>mastered?!!!=20
> :-)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I doubt it will be mastered.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This particular song is a wedding present for
=
>a friend=20
> of the singer.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nothing meant for distribution.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I didn't charge them anything.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The guitarist is like a brother to me and the
=
>singer is=20
> his band mate...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>well X-bandmate. Their band just broke =
>up.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Around here it seems that studio recording has
=
>a=20
> tendancy of disolving bands.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I think it is because everyine finally talks =
>about the=20
> direction </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they want to go with the music and discover =
>that they=20
> don't have the same goals.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sad. Their group has been dropping a bunch of
=
>change=20
> into a recording studio here..</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>they haven't received a finished product and =
>now they=20
> are no more.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Brandon </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Cujo" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com">chris@applemanstudio.com</A>>=
>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:46655b0d$1@linux">news:46655b0d$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>Brandon,=20
> I must say she has a lovely voice, very nice job capturing the=20
> mood<BR>too.<BR>I like the balance now of harmony to lead vox, at =
>first I=20
> thought they both<BR>could come up just a tad more but when I turned
=
>up the=20
> volume on my speakers<BR>it sat better.<BR>Is that a nylon string =
>guitar?=20
> Will the song be mastered?<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>So =
>guys... I=20
> have listened intently to the suggestions you made.<BR>>I do hear =
>the=20
> need for predelay, I do hear the picky bright guitar, =
>and<BR>the<BR>>need=20
> for louder harmony vox.<BR>><BR>>I do personally like the =
>dryer MIX2=20
> in regards to verb.<BR>>I am going to edit the before mentioned=20
> issues.<BR>>I am very grateful for all your =
>help.<BR>><BR>>I cant=20
> wait to tweak it=20
> =
>tomorrow!<BR>><BR>>b<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>=
>;"Brandon"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:A@A.com">A@A.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Second Mix is posted if anyone feels =
>like=20
> giving it a=20
> =
>listen.<BR>>>b<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>"Bran=
>don"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>Martin,<BR>>>><BR>>>=
>>Thanks=20
> for contributing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>I thought the =
>mix was=20
> good.<BR>>>>>I agree with Cujo though, I would like to =
>have=20
> heard a little more=20
> pre<BR>>>delay<BR>>>><BR>>>>>on the lead =
>vox and=20
> maybe a little more wash on the backing=20
> vox.<BR>>>><BR>>>>I will check out the predelay.=20
> <BR>>>>I think I need to tweak the timing on a couple of =
>those=20
> backing vox phrases...I<BR>>>>think that is why I got them =
>so=20
> low...just got tired of making edits and<BR>>>>wanted to =
>start=20
> mixing.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>All in all, a nice=20
> mix.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Thank=20
> you.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Bare in mind, i'm only =
>listening on=20
> "half"decent generic computer=20
> =
>monitors.<BR>>>><BR>>>>thx<BR>>>><BR>>>&=
>gt;b<BR>>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86080 is a reply to message #86064] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 09:54 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
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Oh man #3 is a big one..
They also often think for 500.00 bucks they can make a CD that sounds like
Pearl Jam (insert megaband here) And often in the middle of a session one
guy announces that it is his girlfriends office party that night and he needs
to be done by 3:00
"Neil" <IOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>>Around here it seems that studio recording has a tendancy of
>>disolving bands. I think it is because everyine finally talks
>>about the direction they want to go with the music and discover
>>that they don't have the same goals.
>
>It's not just around there, it's a fairly common phenomenon,
>IME. Sometimes it's because they discover they don't have the
>same goals, as you mention, but more often it's due to things
>like:
>
>a.) They think all they need to get noticed & break out is a
>good recording, and when their killer demo's been circulating
>for a year & they still don't have a record deal, a bandmember
>or two starts to lose interest & quits, then another, etc.
>
>b.) They discover they're not so hot shit after all... like for
>example, all the thousands of "hardcore fans" that they thought
>they had - you know, all the ones that show up to every club
>gig and are constantly telling them how great they are - don't
>seem to be hardcore enough to put their money where their mouth
>is & buy a CD. So they press a thousand CD's & sell a few big
>batches at the first few gigs after the CD comes out, but then
>a year goes by & they still have 700 left out of the 1000 they
>pressed. Depression hits, bandmembers split, etc.
>
>c.) It's a young-ish band that's been garaging & gigging for
>awhile & they think they sound great - all their friends & fans
>tell them so, after all - and then they start recording & all
>the clams & bad-timing issues that you don't necessarily notice
>live (because in a live environment five seconds after you've
>tried to play that riff you can never play right, or rushed the
>fill on that break for the umpteenth time, everyone's forgotten
>about it; but when recording, they obviously show up again &
>again on every single playback) start rearing their ugly heads.
>So the alpha band-guy starts getting on the other guys' case
>about this, trying to get them to step up & get tight, and this
>carries beyond the studio, and pretty soon the relationship
>between bandmambers has changed - the dynamic is no
>longer "he's our guitarist" (it's usually a guitarist) it's
>now: "he's trying to take over the band" or some such thing...
>tensions develop, bandmembers quit or get fired, etc.
>
>I've seen all of these things happen.
>
>Neil
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| Re: My New Mix... [message #86081 is a reply to message #86068] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 10:00 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
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My band has had the same core line up for a while and one of the reasons
is that we all know how many asshole musicians there are out there and how
tough it is to keep it together, we also just like playing together, when
we make money that is icing on the cake.
But so many bands don't see it that way.
One big thing I have noticed over the years is how so mediocre new bands
in the early 20's have about 1-2 years with the crowd Neil is talking about..they
feel like kings because they draw 70+ "Fans" but as soon as they start overplaying
and their crowd starts to get real jobs/kids what ever, the fan bass dries
up (at least at live shows) The real artist keep moving after this, but many
give up me thinx.
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>Fricken guitar players!!!
>They always want to run the show...
>I know because I am one..
>and I always try to ..:-)
>
>The few bands I was in .. the drummers hated me, because I would tell =
>them the beat they were playing
>didn't fit. Ofcourse they took offense to this..I don't know why????
>
>My friends band that I mentioned earilier broke up because of him..
>He is the guitarist... Well I wont say it was because of him...the =
>drummer
>...well Bongo player...wanted to be the producer and was very =
>controling..
>over the mix... Well needless to say my friend didn't like being told =
>his guitars need to be turned
>down....So conversations like" Wait!!..your the Bongo player...right?" =
>"Who are you again?...The Bongo player?"
>After that the bongo player quit the band.
>
>--=20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon=20
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>news:4664ed80@linux...
> Sounds real purty to me. I agree with the suggestions on the reverb.
=
>I, too, wanted to hear the vocals more, but mostly just in certain =
>passages. If it was me, I'd just ride/program the fader to keep the =
>voice just on top of the mix, but I'm kind of obsessive that way. :)
>
> Sarah
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:46642626$1@linux...
> All,
>
> I have posted my mix at:
>
> http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html
>
> Please give it a listen and give your opinions good, bad or =
>indifferent.
>
>
> --=20
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Fricken guitar players!!!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>They always want to run the show...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I know because I am one..</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>and I always try to ..:-)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The few bands I was in .. the drummers hated me,
=
>because I=20
>would tell them the beat they were playing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>didn't fit. Ofcourse they took offense to =
>this..I don't=20
>know why????</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>My friends band that I mentioned earilier broke
=
>up because=20
>of him..</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>He is the guitarist... Well I wont say it was =
>because of=20
>him...the drummer</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>...well Bongo player...wanted to be the =
>producer and=20
>was very controling..</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>over the mix... Well needless to say my friend =
>didn't like=20
>being told his guitars need to be turned</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>down....So conversations like" Wait!!..your the
=
>Bongo=20
>player...right?" "Who are you again?...The Bongo player?"</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>After that the bongo player quit the =
>band.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Brandon </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV>"Sarah" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A =
>href=3D"news:4664ed80@linux">news:4664ed80@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds real purty to me. I =
>agree with the=20
> suggestions on the reverb. I, too, wanted to hear the vocals =
>more, but=20
> mostly just in certain passages. If it was me, I'd just=20
> ride/program the fader to keep the voice just on top of =
>the=20
> mix, but I'm kind of obsessive that way. :)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sarah</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Brandon" <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:46642626$1@linux">news:46642626$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>All,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have posted my mix at:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://mymixes.zoomshare.com/5.html">http://mymixes.zoomshare.com=
>/5.html</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Please give it a listen and give your =
>opinions good,=20
> bad or indifferent.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial>
> <DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Brandon </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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