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We all need this. [message #88285]

Wed, 18 July 2007 11:55

excelav

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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

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http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html

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Re: We all need this. [message #88289 is a reply to message #88285]

Wed, 18 July 2007 14:29

Dedric Terry

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I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access in
the US compared to the rest of the world.
I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and others
is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately I
have access and a much better deal through a business here
in our building.

40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone making
it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that reality
for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in 15 years
after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and more.

Dedric

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Re: We all need this. [message #88290 is a reply to message #88289]

Wed, 18 July 2007 15:08

excelav

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"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access
in
>the US compared to the rest of the world.
>I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and others

>is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
>and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately I

>have access and a much better deal through a business here
>in our building.
>
>40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone making

>it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that reality

>for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in 15 years

>after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and more.
>
>Dedric

Did you see the story on PBS about the city that tried to put in a fiber
network and got sued by the big conglomerates? I think it was Montgomery
AL.

>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
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Re: We all need this. [message #88291 is a reply to message #88290]

Wed, 18 July 2007 15:10

excelav

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Location: Metro Detroit

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I think we all have a need for speed; )

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access
>in
>>the US compared to the rest of the world.
>>I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and others
>
>>is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
>>and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately
I
>
>>have access and a much better deal through a business here
>>in our building.
>>
>>40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone making
>
>>it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that reality
>
>>for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in 15 years
>
>>after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and more.
>>
>>Dedric
>
>Did you see the story on PBS about the city that tried to put in a fiber
>network and got sued by the big conglomerates? I think it was Montgomery
>AL.
>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:469e623e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
>>
>

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Re: We all need this. [message #88293 is a reply to message #88290]

Wed, 18 July 2007 15:54

Dedric Terry

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I didn't see that - I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it is a rather sad
and embarrasing indication of our country's corporate climate.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Did you see the story on PBS about the city that tried to put in a fiber
> network and got sued by the big conglomerates? I think it was Montgomery
> AL.
>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:469e623e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
>>
>

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Re: We all need this. [message #88294 is a reply to message #88293]

Wed, 18 July 2007 16:03

JeffH

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Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR

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Dedric Terry wrote:
> I didn't see that - I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it is a rather
> sad and embarrasing indication of our country's corporate climate.
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:469e8f57$1@linux...
>
>> Did you see the story on PBS about the city that tried to put in a fiber
>> network and got sued by the big conglomerates? I think it was
>> Montgomery
>> AL.
>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:469e623e$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>
I heard a little about it. Wasn't there an issue about how that was to
be funded? What I remember was the city was still going to charge for
access, but in such a way that it gave them an unfair trade advantage.

Jeff

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Re: We all need this. [message #88303 is a reply to message #88294]

Wed, 18 July 2007 22:28

excelav

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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

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Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Dedric Terry wrote:
>> I didn't see that - I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it is a rather

>> sad and embarrasing indication of our country's corporate climate.
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:469e8f57$1@linux...
>>
>>> Did you see the story on PBS about the city that tried to put in a fiber
>>> network and got sued by the big conglomerates? I think it was
>>> Montgomery
>>> AL.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:469e623e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I heard a little about it. Wasn't there an issue about how that was to

>be funded? What I remember was the city was still going to charge for
>access, but in such a way that it gave them an unfair trade advantage.
>
>Jeff

I may have the details wrong, but I believe it was going to be rolled in
to their taxes. The people voted it in. The people wanted it, Verizon and
other companies didn't, so they sued to stop it. It was going to cost the
people a lot less as I recall.

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Re: We all need this. [message #88306 is a reply to message #88289]

Thu, 19 July 2007 02:04

erlilo

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Registered: June 2005

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I must say the truth really can be different when reading this. I took a
research and found out that a fiberoptical cable can handle up to that kind
of speed in tests, as they had done with that old lady in Karlstad. But the
speed on their internet for the people is yet totally different. I went to
their homesite in Karlstad, Sweden, http://www.elnat.karlstad.se/ trying to
find out more. So I found out the speed for the people/firms can be up
to 100 Mbit/sec up and download but normally is 10/10 Mbit/sec, after what
you will pay for.
We have had this kind of fiberoptical cable here in the district for some
years now and my children have used it privately from the start with 10/10
Mbit/sec and they can get up to 50/25Mbit/sec speed if they want to pay for
that kind of speed. They also have TV and telephone on the same cable. Firms
can allready get up to 100/100, so you see it's not any news at all;-)
By the way, I have ordered fiberoptical
http://www.lyse.no/category.php?categoryID=5047 and will get it at the end
of August/beginning of September.
So as far as I can see, it's just the competition in the marked that's
setting the internetspeed with a fiberoptical cable.

Erling

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> skrev i melding news:469e87be@linux...
>I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access in
>the US compared to the rest of the world.
> I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and
> others is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
> and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately I
> have access and a much better deal through a business here
> in our building.
>
> 40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone
> making it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that
> reality for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in
> 15 years after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and
> more.
>
> Dedric
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:469e623e$1@linux...
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
>

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