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| Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88404] |
Sat, 21 July 2007 20:53  |
DJ
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I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm strapping
a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This compressor is a
little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a lot of the BIG
thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but the more I go to
the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work that goes with
it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with this new system. I
can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the hardware just provides a
different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a
lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working wit-lots of
folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks
with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what I'm
looking for.
I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and 4
x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
;o)
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88405 is a reply to message #88404] |
Sat, 21 July 2007 23:47  |
Martin Harrington
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Deej
You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a
> lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but
> the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work
> that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with
> this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the
> hardware just provides a different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the
> sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working
> wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and
> mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
> it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
> music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what
> I'm looking for.
>
> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
> If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and
> 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
>
> ;o)
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88407 is a reply to message #88405] |
Sun, 22 July 2007 00:11 |
DJ
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I've heard it....what does it mean?
;oD
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Deej
>
> You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
>
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
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> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
>> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
>> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
>> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a
>> lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too,
>> but the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the
>> work that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for
>> with this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and
>> the hardware just provides a different level coutour and dimensionaliy to
>> the sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with the genre I'm
>> working wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle
>> and mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics
>> on it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style
>> country music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds
>> to what I'm looking for.
>>
>> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the
>> road. If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x
>> 1176's and 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a
>> little while.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88408 is a reply to message #88407] |
Sun, 22 July 2007 00:28 |
DJ
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Unfortunately, the Demeter comp isn't properly calibrated for stereo use. If
I'm going to use it in any serious way on a stereo bus, I'm going to have to
get the calibration equalled out. Definitely give me some ideas though.
;o)
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a30480@linux...
> I've heard it....what does it mean?
>
> ;oD
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> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:46a2ff02$1@linux...
>> Deej
>>
>> You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
>>
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>> news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
>>> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
>>> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
>>> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create
>>> a lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too,
>>> but the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of
>>> the work that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking
>>> for with this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus
>>> and the hardware just provides a different level coutour and
>>> dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with
>>> the genre I'm working wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic
>>> guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum
>>> kit with 10 mics on it..................more like the Dirt Band than
>>> Nashville style country music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the
>>> closer it sounds to what I'm looking for.
>>>
>>> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the
>>> road. If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x
>>> 1176's and 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a
>>> little while.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88409 is a reply to message #88407] |
Sun, 22 July 2007 00:29 |
erlilo
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Hmmmm.....forget it, you're yet too young in your mind to
understand.....hmmmm.....
erlilo
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> skrev i melding
news:46a30480@linux...
> I've heard it....what does it mean?
>
> ;oD
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:46a2ff02$1@linux...
>> Deej
>>
>> You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
>>
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>> news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
>>> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
>>> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
>>> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create
>>> a lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too,
>>> but the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of
>>> the work that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking
>>> for with this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus
>>> and the hardware just provides a different level coutour and
>>> dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with
>>> the genre I'm working wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic
>>> guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum
>>> kit with 10 mics on it..................more like the Dirt Band than
>>> Nashville style country music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the
>>> closer it sounds to what I'm looking for.
>>>
>>> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the
>>> road. If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x
>>> 1176's and 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a
>>> little while.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88415 is a reply to message #88404] |
Sun, 22 July 2007 07:34 |
Paul Artola
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Deej -
I hear what you're saying. I go back and forth searching for both a
flexible DAW (or multi-DAW) studio and a functional analog one.
Currently, I am leaning towards the computer solution, with a digital
mixer at the center of it all and select outboard gear. The spectrum
of affordable plugins and VST instruments makes this a pretty simple
decision, and hopefully, the addition of my new digital mixer/control
surface will bring the tactile control that mousing it just lacks.
On the shameless plug side, if you are interested in a pair of
excellent, 4-band parametric EQs, I am selling two Speck ASCs. Give me
a ping of you (or anyone else reading this) would like more
information.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:53:01 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm strapping
>a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This compressor is a
>little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a lot of the BIG
>thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but the more I go to
>the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work that goes with
>it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with this new system. I
>can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the hardware just provides a
>different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a
>lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working wit-lots of
>folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks
>with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
>it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
>music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what I'm
>looking for.
>
>I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
>If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and 4
>x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
>
>;o)
>
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88416 is a reply to message #88404] |
Sun, 22 July 2007 07:52 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
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"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
>If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and
4
>x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
I've been thiking about hardware comps for use across the
2-buss, as well, and one of the ones that I've been eyballing
is the Cranesong STC-8. They go for about $3800 street. I
noticed that Brad Blackwood at Euphonic Mastering uses one, so
I e-mailed him about it, and one of the things he said was - and
I quote: "I suggest you try one out for yourself, but be
prepared to buy it". So now I'm scared to try one until I'm
ready to cough up that much cash! lol
Deej, the Vari-Mu might be a little dark or soft-ish for your
needs... I've played around with one before, and that's the way
it came across to my ears. Worth trying, though, and maybe I'm
wrong, but I'm just thinking about the genres you normally work
in with combinations of acoustic guitars, banjos, mandolins,
fiddles, etc., each with lots of diffeet kinds of subtle hi-end
character, might not be best served by that particular unit.
Then again, if you're looking for yet another "warmth
machine", the Vari-Mu might be right up your alley.
Neil
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| Re: Hardware "coutour and dimensionality" [message #88419 is a reply to message #88404] |
Sun, 22 July 2007 08:53 |
LaMont
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Registered: October 2005
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Hey DJ,
I can get that vibe with using the Waves SSL (Stereo) comp. It has that "glue"
and slamming vibe missing in Nuendo. Now, I can mix in Nuendo almost like
I can in Paris just by inserting the SSL Stereo comp on the master buss..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm strapping
>a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This compressor is a
>little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a lot of the BIG
>thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but the more I go
to
>the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work that goes with
>it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with this new system.
I
>can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the hardware just provides
a
>different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think
a
>lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working wit-lots of
>folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks
>with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
>it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
>music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what
I'm
>looking for.
>
>I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
>If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and
4
>x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
>
>;o)
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