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a favor to ask [message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 13:27

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I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion of
the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
significant.

Here's a link:

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html

At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
seconds you can click on it to DL the file.

Thanks,

Deej

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88454 is a reply to message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 14:05

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Sounds great.. You can push it more for my taste :).. I did not hear the hiss..I'll
check again in the studio..

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
to
>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen

>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
a
>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my

>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
of
>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering

>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>significant.
>
>Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the

>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
15
>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88464 is a reply to message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 18:43

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I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.

DJ wrote:
> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion of
> the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
> if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
> significant.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88465 is a reply to message #88464]

Mon, 23 July 2007 18:57

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OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
heard it as well).

Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
& be the one to find it! lol

Neil

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>
>DJ wrote:
>> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
to
>> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen

>> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
a
>> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
my
>> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
of
>> the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering

>> if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something

>> significant.
>>
>> Here's a link:
>>
>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>
>> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
the
>> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
15
>> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88466 is a reply to message #88465]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:05

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I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal
music you record over there... ;-)

David.

Neil wrote:
> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
> heard it as well).
>
> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
> & be the one to find it! lol
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>
> to
>
>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
>
>
>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>
> a
>
>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>
> my
>
>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>
> of
>
>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
>
>
>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>
>
>>>significant.
>>>
>>>Here's a link:
>>>
>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>
>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>
> the
>
>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>
> 15
>
>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>
>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88467 is a reply to message #88466]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:13

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I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was definitely
contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
without.

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>record over there... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Neil wrote:
>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>> heard it as well).
>>
>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I heard
>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>>
>> to
>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>happen
>>
>>
>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>>
>> a
>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>
>> my
>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>>
>> of
>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>wondering
>>
>>
>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>
>>
>>>>significant.
>>>>
>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>
>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>
>> the
>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>>
>> 15
>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88468 is a reply to message #88467]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:23

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HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?

And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was definitely

>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>without.
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you

>>record over there... ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>> heard it as well).
>>>
>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I heard

>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly

>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>>>
>>> to
>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to

>>>>>happen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>>>
>>> a
>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>
>>> my
>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>>>
>>> of
>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>wondering
>>>
>>>
>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>
>>>
>>>>>significant.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>
>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>
>>> the
>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>>>
>>> 15
>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>
>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88470 is a reply to message #88468]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:25

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maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the the
buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
sleepmixing.

;oP

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>
> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>
> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>
> Neil
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>definitely
>
>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>without.
>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>
>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Neil wrote:
>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>
>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>heard
>
>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>
>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>trying
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>
>>>>>>happen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>portion
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>wondering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>after
>>>>
>>>> 15
>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88471 is a reply to message #88470]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:33

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Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:

> maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the the
> buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
> this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
> send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
> sleepmixing.
>
> ;oP
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>
>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>
>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>definitely
>>
>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>without.
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>
>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>heard
>>
>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>
>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>
>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>>15
>>>>>
>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88472 is a reply to message #88471]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:55

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To really understand what I'm going for here as far as the vocal, this is
the song I was asked to use as a relative "go by"

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197417/Tried-True-and-Teste d-mp3.html

;o)

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:46a56644$1@linux...
> Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>> the buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard.
>> Maybe this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the
>> damn send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>> sleepmixing.
>>
>> ;oP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>
>>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>
>>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>definitely
>>>
>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>without.
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>
>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>>heard
>>>
>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>prolly
>>>
>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>
>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>
>>>>>>15
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>

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Re: a favor to ask [message #88473 is a reply to message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 21:03

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I don�t think its noise; I think it�s a small amount of harmonic clipping
in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a lot
of information in the 8K range� Both peak and average. This could be caused
by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using a
file sharing service, why don�t you post the wave files.
Gene
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Mon, 23 July 2007 21:34

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Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
section I'm noticing it most.

It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.

Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
the
>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe

>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn

>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>sleepmixing.
>
>;oP
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>
>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>
>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>definitely
>>
>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>without.
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>
>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I

>>>>>>heard
>>
>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>
>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>
>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
of
>>>>>
>>>>> my
>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
to
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and

>>>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Mon, 23 July 2007 21:39

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Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
happening throughout the piece if it's what you're referring
to? So are you hearing it, too?

But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!

Neil

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>I don�t think its noise; I think it�s a small amount of harmonic clipping
>in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a lot
>of information in the 8K range� Both peak and average. This could be caused
>by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using a
>file sharing service, why don�t you post the wave files.
>Gene

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Mon, 23 July 2007 21:58

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Don't tell the singer, but I was using "Wasted away in Margaritaville"
at least for the middle section.

:-)

Jeff

J wrote:
> To really understand what I'm going for here as far as the vocal, this is
> the song I was asked to use as a relative "go by"
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197417/Tried-True-and-Teste d-mp3.html
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:46a56644$1@linux...
>
>>Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>>>the buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard.
>>>Maybe this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the
>>>damn send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>>sleepmixing.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>>
>>>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>>definitely
>>>>
>>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>>without.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>>
>>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>
>>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>>prolly
>>>>
>>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>

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Mon, 23 July 2007 22:15

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Neil,

It's a Quantec Yardstick. There is a Behringer SRC2496 format converter
interpatching it with an RME ADI4-DD unit which is interfacing another
SRC2496. The Behringers allow me to use the Quantec at 88.2 if need be, but
in this case it's AES>AES, with no format conversion happening. Two of these
are also being used to digitally interpatch my Roland R-880 which is
processing the vocal track.

Here's a link to the 16/44.1 .wav file.

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197440/Faith-In-Love-wav.ht ml

I have run this through every analyzer in Wavelab and it is showing no
digital problems at all. I'm going to go back an do some testing and
reevaluation of the reverbs.

Roland R-880 is on vocal, the Quantec is on guitars, mandolin snare and
OH's. A Lexicon PCM 91 is on the fiddles and a sony V77 (drumroom setting)
is processing the both kick tracks, both snare tracks, the OH's and the
electric bass. there is also a TC Elctronics D-2 processing the left panned
strings. All of these processors are digitally interfaced. they are all
clocked properly and the system is dead quiet when idling.

;o)

Deej

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a58149$1@linux...
>
> Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
> section I'm noticing it most.
>
> It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
> mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
> pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
> sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
> seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
> of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
> you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
> some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
> the
>>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>
>>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>
>>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>sleepmixing.
>>
>>;oP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>
>>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>
>>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>definitely
>>>
>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>without.
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>
>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>
>>>>>>>heard
>>>
>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>prolly
>>>
>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>
>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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">
> But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
>
> Neil
>

Done. check the answer to your post above.

thanks,

Deej

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Mon, 23 July 2007 22:26

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�Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
happening throughout the piece�

No. I hear periodic artifacts in MP3s all the time. Particularly in ones
I make.

�So are you hearing it, too?�
Yes..subtle. Not really broadband noise to me.

Gene

"Nei" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
>happening throughout the piece if it's what you're referring
>to? So are you hearing it, too?
>
>But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>I don�t think its noise; I think it�s a small amount of harmonic clipping
>>in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a
lot
>>of information in the 8K range� Both peak and average. This could be caused
>>by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using
a
>>file sharing service, why don�t you post the wave files.
>>Gene
>

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Mon, 23 July 2007 22:56

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OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
during the section I'm referring to).

FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
part, izallimsayin'.

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>It's a Quantec Yardstick. There is a Behringer SRC2496 format converter

>interpatching it with an RME ADI4-DD unit which is interfacing another
>SRC2496. The Behringers allow me to use the Quantec at 88.2 if need be,
but
>in this case it's AES>AES, with no format conversion happening. Two of these

>are also being used to digitally interpatch my Roland R-880 which is
>processing the vocal track.
>
>Here's a link to the 16/44.1 .wav file.
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197440/Faith-In-Love-wav.ht ml
>
>I have run this through every analyzer in Wavelab and it is showing no
>digital problems at all. I'm going to go back an do some testing and
>reevaluation of the reverbs.
>
>Roland R-880 is on vocal, the Quantec is on guitars, mandolin snare and

>OH's. A Lexicon PCM 91 is on the fiddles and a sony V77 (drumroom setting)

>is processing the both kick tracks, both snare tracks, the OH's and the

>electric bass. there is also a TC Elctronics D-2 processing the left panned

>strings. All of these processors are digitally interfaced. they are all

>clocked properly and the system is dead quiet when idling.
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a58149$1@linux...
>>
>> Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
>> section I'm noticing it most.
>>
>> It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
>> mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
>> pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
>> sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
>> seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
>> of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
>> you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
>> some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>> the
>>>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>>
>>>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>>
>>>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>>sleepmixing.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>>
>>>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>>
>>>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>>definitely
>>>>
>>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>>without.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music
you
>>>>
>>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or
I
>>
>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>
>>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's

>>>>>>>>prolly
>>>>
>>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs
to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a59493$1@linux...
>
> OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
> it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
> right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
> file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
> on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
> during the section I'm referring to).
>
> FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
> recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
> part, izallimsayin'.
>
>
> Neil
>

I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case of
Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try to
keep it to around 72-75dB.

Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.

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I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is probably
reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I personally
like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are particularly
clear and bright with no offending sibilance�s.
My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
the production is very good.
Gene

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen

>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years

>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
of
>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few

>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
to
>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>
>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>
>;o)
>
>
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Sleepmixing! You're a genius. Now I know how to get those extra hours in.

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Gene, that's pretty much what i felt.
The drummer was letting the team down a little, ( and I'm not too fussed on
the actual snare sound), but that's purely an old farts personal opinion.
The other thing I was a little concerned over was the singers pitch some
times, and the (intrusive) fiddle in the first part of the piece.
Some nice recording and mixing though Deej.
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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>
> I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is
> probably
> reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
> as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
> ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
> I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I
> personally
> like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are
> particularly
> clear and bright with no offending sibilance�s.
> My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
> the production is very good.
> Gene
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a
>>listen
>
>>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>
>>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
> of
>>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>
>>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
> to
>>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>>
>>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>

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"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Gene, that's pretty much what i felt.
> The drummer was letting the team down a little, ( and I'm not too fussed
> on the actual snare sound), but that's purely an old farts personal
> opinion.
> The other thing I was a little concerned over was the singers pitch some
> times, and the (intrusive) fiddle in the first part of the piece.
> Some nice recording and mixing though Deej.
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247

Heheh!!!.Thanks Martin. Funny how that fiddle at the beginning is so
controversial. Some folks love it and want it louder, others think it should
be lost altogether.

:o)

> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:46a6043d$1@linux...
>>
>> I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is
>> probably
>> reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
>> as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
>> ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
>> I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I
>> personally
>> like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are
>> particularly
>> clear and bright with no offending sibilance�s.
>> My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
>> the production is very good.
>> Gene
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a
>>>listen
>>
>>>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few
>>>years
>>
>>>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
>> of
>>>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>>
>>>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
>> to
>>>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>>>
>>>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
>
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Wed, 25 July 2007 01:51

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not to worry...in a couple years you'll forget whatever it is that
bothers you about your age...daily.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:35:22 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:

>
>"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a59493$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
>> it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
>> right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
>> file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
>> on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
>> during the section I'm referring to).
>>
>> FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
>> recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
>> part, izallimsayin'.
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case of
>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try to
>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>
>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>
>;o)
>
>

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Wed, 25 July 2007 22:44

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Wow, some good ears out there. I thought maybe I heard something around
where the mandolin crescendos just before the bridge, but maybe it's just
the snare rim reverb. My co-producer who is actually an engineer is the one
who deals with this kind of issue on our mixes, since I'm not generally
bothered by bits of noise, distortion, out-of-tuneness, etc. (Auto Tune . .
.. phehh)

Really I just wanted to say I thought it sounded real purty. Nice work. DJ.
:)

S

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a51089@linux...
> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
> of the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
> wondering if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
> something significant.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>

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Wed, 25 July 2007 23:06

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"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:46a83602@linux...
> Wow, some good ears out there. I thought maybe I heard something around
> where the mandolin crescendos just before the bridge, but maybe it's just
> the snare rim reverb. My co-producer who is actually an engineer is the
> one who deals with this kind of issue on our mixes, since I'm not
> generally bothered by bits of noise, distortion, out-of-tuneness, etc.
> (Auto Tune . . . phehh)
>
> Really I just wanted to say I thought it sounded real purty. Nice work.
> DJ. :)
>
> S

Thanks

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