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OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89046] Sat, 18 August 2007 11:08 Go to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLJpyvitF4

my best friend (since 1966) has a brother-in-law who's unstoppable.

-steve
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89049 is a reply to message #89046] Sat, 18 August 2007 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Wow. That made me cry. Some people have amazing courage. Thanks.

S


"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLJpyvitF4
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> my best friend (since 1966) has a brother-in-law who's unstoppable.
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> -steve
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89052 is a reply to message #89046] Sat, 18 August 2007 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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WOW!!!.One of my best friends has had an Ercoupe since the '70's. I've flown
it nuumerous times. They are cool planes. I love the mods on this one. What
an inspiring story.

;O)


"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLJpyvitF4
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> my best friend (since 1966) has a brother-in-law who's unstoppable.
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> -steve
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89055 is a reply to message #89052] Sun, 19 August 2007 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Great story, now not to be a bummer but what about all that copyrighted music
in the video? Surely that isn't legal.
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89057 is a reply to message #89055] Sun, 19 August 2007 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Does the music fall under fair use?

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rap/copyright

Q. What is fair use?



A. Another noteworthy exception to the exclusive rights previously described
is referred to as the fair use doctrine. Fair use provides an absolute exception
to the exclusive rights of the copyright owner when another uses the owner’s
work in specific ways. In cases where the fair use exception applies, permission
from the copyright owner to use the work is unnecessary.



Generally, use of a copyrighted work for criticism, comment, news reporting,
teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research
qualifies as fair use. While no bright line rules exist for determining whether
a particular use is fair, courts rely on a four factor test. The factors
are 1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether the use is
commercial or for non-profit educational purposes; 2) the nature of the copyrighted
work itself, in which courts typically evaluate whether the work is factual,
scientific, or artistic in nature; 3) the quantitative amount and substantiality,
interpreted as the qualitative amount, of the work that is copied; and 4)
the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the work.



Generally speaking, uses for non-commercial purposes that will not diminish
the copyright owner’s ability to make money from the work are considered
fair use. As a result, permission from the copyright owner for those uses
is unnecessary. However, if there is doubt about whether a use is fair, err
on the side of caution and get permission or speak with an attorney.
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89058 is a reply to message #89057] Sun, 19 August 2007 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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“Generally speaking, uses for non-commercial purposes that will not diminish
the copyright owner’s ability to make money from the work are considered
fair use.”

This is the sticky point. Because You Tube videos are now seen by millions,
copyright owners are arguing lost value. Even charitable non-profits (501c3)
need to pay royalties for TV and Radio use.
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89075 is a reply to message #89052] Sun, 19 August 2007 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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My dad had an Ercoupe for a while and they are fun to fly. With no
rudder pedals and a stable wing design, what a great choice for your
friend's brother-in-law!

Thanks for the link.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


DJ wrote:
> WOW!!!.One of my best friends has had an Ercoupe since the '70's. I've flown
> it nuumerous times. They are cool planes. I love the mods on this one. What
> an inspiring story.
>
> ;O)
>
>
> "steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
> news:46c735a9$1@linux...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLJpyvitF4
>>
>> my best friend (since 1966) has a brother-in-law who's unstoppable.
>>
>> -steve
>
>
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89164 is a reply to message #89055] Sat, 25 August 2007 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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John,you really need to lighten up a little.
--
Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
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Lindfield 2070
02 9413 8666
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46c82cc7$1@linux...
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> Great story, now not to be a bummer but what about all that copyrighted
> music
> in the video? Surely that isn't legal.
Re: OT- something for you mechanical hackers [message #89166 is a reply to message #89164] Sun, 26 August 2007 04:34 Go to previous message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Well, it just so happened that I am learning about copyrighting and licensing
of covers songs so it was more a question to try to learn more than to throw
stones. Sorry for being the bummer.

John
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