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PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98019] Wed, 16 April 2008 21:29 Go to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Hey all -

I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki. This
is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can easily
upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.

The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works for
people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to verify
that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.

So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
(perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank document
and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.

Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:

1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading

If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your success/failure
was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead and
create something similar for each plugin.

Thanks in advance!

- Kerry

PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best format
options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can make
immediate use of the presets.

PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy to
create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
suggestions.

- K.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98020 is a reply to message #98019] Wed, 16 April 2008 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Doh - I guess a link would be handy!

http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=BigRe verb


On 4/16/08 9:29 PM, in article C42C2031.AB60%kg@kerrygalloway.com, "Kerry
Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:

> Hey all -
>
> I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki. This
> is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can easily
> upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
> immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.
>
> The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works for
> people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to verify
> that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.
>
> So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
> (perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank document
> and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.
>
> Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:
>
> 1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
> 2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
> 3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
> 4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>
> If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your success/failure
> was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead and
> create something similar for each plugin.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> - Kerry
>
> PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best format
> options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can make
> immediate use of the presets.
>
> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy to
> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
> suggestions.
>
> - K.
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98021 is a reply to message #98019] Wed, 16 April 2008 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy
> to
> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
> suggestions.

Definitely... a question I used to get a lot is "what is your system and
what are your system settings?"

If you can set up a repository for say, Athlon/Intel /by speed /CPU core
type/RAM amount/OS type, etc as a searchable database, this might bail
someone outta hot water if they can DL a known good config file for a
simliar system. Since it's txt, it should take next to no room on your
server, and it would be a great resource for checking syntax (stuff like
MidiPlay=Disable) in the config file when troubleshooting gets frustrating.

Also, check your email inbox, got something in there for ya.
AA


"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C42C2031.AB60%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Hey all -
>
> I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki.
> This
> is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can
> easily
> upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
> immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.
>
> The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works
> for
> people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to verify
> that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.
>
> So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
> (perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank document
> and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.
>
> Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:
>
> 1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
> 2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
> 3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
> 4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>
> If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your success/failure
> was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead and
> create something similar for each plugin.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> - Kerry
>
> PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best format
> options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can make
> immediate use of the presets.
>
> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy
> to
> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
> suggestions.
>
> - K.
>
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98025 is a reply to message #98021] Thu, 17 April 2008 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Now *that* is certainly a great idea. A PARIS hardware database would be
insanely cool, and is much needed. I recently tried to search through the
newsgroup for mobo information and it's pretty daunting to pull data out;
newsgroups aren't ideal formats for data storage/retrieval.

Problem for me is - I'm not a PC guy. I haven't followed the debate on
mobos/drivers/BIOS/video card - I don't even know what the relevant pieces
of info are, what kind of data fields we want... This is all stuff I'd be
asking here in a month's time myself. So I'd have to rely on someone else to
create an Excel database - to figure out what it needs to look like - and to
start collecting that info up into one spreadsheet.

But someone more knowledgeable than I wants to create it as a spreadsheet,
and if we get a few machines in the database to start with, I could serve it
here, and I've already started researching what kind of graphic front-end I
might be able to build for it.

Maybe we should give this idea its own thread, see if other PC gurus might
want to get on board?

- K

On 4/16/08 9:54 PM, in article 4806e0a9$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy
>> to
>> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
>> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
>> suggestions.
>
> Definitely... a question I used to get a lot is "what is your system and
> what are your system settings?"
>
> If you can set up a repository for say, Athlon/Intel /by speed /CPU core
> type/RAM amount/OS type, etc as a searchable database, this might bail
> someone outta hot water if they can DL a known good config file for a
> simliar system. Since it's txt, it should take next to no room on your
> server, and it would be a great resource for checking syntax (stuff like
> MidiPlay=Disable) in the config file when troubleshooting gets frustrating.
>
> Also, check your email inbox, got something in there for ya.
> AA
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C42C2031.AB60%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Hey all -
>>
>> I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki.
>> This
>> is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can
>> easily
>> upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
>> immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.
>>
>> The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works
>> for
>> people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to verify
>> that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.
>>
>> So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
>> (perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank document
>> and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.
>>
>> Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:
>>
>> 1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
>> 2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>> 3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
>> 4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>>
>> If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your success/failure
>> was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead and
>> create something similar for each plugin.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> - Kerry
>>
>> PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best format
>> options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can make
>> immediate use of the presets.
>>
>> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy
>> to
>> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
>> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
>> suggestions.
>>
>> - K.
>>
>
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98026 is a reply to message #98025] Thu, 17 April 2008 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Motherboard, chipset, video card chip, memory/brand&amount, CPU
socket/speed/model, PCI cards in use. motherboard onboard devices. Network.
Firewire. USB. All use IRQ's, play a role. Firewire port shouldn't have
networking enabled, it polls. The amount of EDS cards is directly involved
in how you want to set your configs.
Hard drives (SCSI, IDE, SATA, rotation speed/cache/size/brand) all play a
role.
Magma/SBS expansion likely plays a role.


What kinds of applications (MS Office for example, big no no IMO on a DAW)
plays a part.
Start up group. DX and VST plugs. Automatic updates. Remote
desktop/invitations. Native or 3rd party drivers ( for instance a native
windows video driver or the 'fancy' one from the video card company with all
the bells 'n' whistles.. that's overhead) for hardware devices.

I'm sure there's more but I better hit it to get my usual 4 hours sleep :P

AA

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C42C494B.AB6D%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Now *that* is certainly a great idea. A PARIS hardware database would be
> insanely cool, and is much needed. I recently tried to search through the
> newsgroup for mobo information and it's pretty daunting to pull data out;
> newsgroups aren't ideal formats for data storage/retrieval.
>
> Problem for me is - I'm not a PC guy. I haven't followed the debate on
> mobos/drivers/BIOS/video card - I don't even know what the relevant pieces
> of info are, what kind of data fields we want... This is all stuff I'd be
> asking here in a month's time myself. So I'd have to rely on someone else
> to
> create an Excel database - to figure out what it needs to look like - and
> to
> start collecting that info up into one spreadsheet.
>
> But someone more knowledgeable than I wants to create it as a spreadsheet,
> and if we get a few machines in the database to start with, I could serve
> it
> here, and I've already started researching what kind of graphic front-end
> I
> might be able to build for it.
>
> Maybe we should give this idea its own thread, see if other PC gurus might
> want to get on board?
>
> - K
>
> On 4/16/08 9:54 PM, in article 4806e0a9$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be
>>> handy
>>> to
>>> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
>>> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
>>> suggestions.
>>
>> Definitely... a question I used to get a lot is "what is your system and
>> what are your system settings?"
>>
>> If you can set up a repository for say, Athlon/Intel /by speed /CPU core
>> type/RAM amount/OS type, etc as a searchable database, this might bail
>> someone outta hot water if they can DL a known good config file for a
>> simliar system. Since it's txt, it should take next to no room on your
>> server, and it would be a great resource for checking syntax (stuff like
>> MidiPlay=Disable) in the config file when troubleshooting gets
>> frustrating.
>>
>> Also, check your email inbox, got something in there for ya.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C42C2031.AB60%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> Hey all -
>>>
>>> I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki.
>>> This
>>> is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can
>>> easily
>>> upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
>>> immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.
>>>
>>> The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works
>>> for
>>> people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to
>>> verify
>>> that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.
>>>
>>> So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
>>> (perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank
>>> document
>>> and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.
>>>
>>> Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:
>>>
>>> 1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
>>> 2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>>> 3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
>>> 4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>>>
>>> If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your
>>> success/failure
>>> was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead
>>> and
>>> create something similar for each plugin.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> - Kerry
>>>
>>> PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best
>>> format
>>> options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can
>>> make
>>> immediate use of the presets.
>>>
>>> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be
>>> handy
>>> to
>>> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
>>> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> - K.
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98032 is a reply to message #98019] Thu, 17 April 2008 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

Hey Kerry!

You are Da Man! Might there be another Paris rig in your future?

Gantt


Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Hey all -
>
>I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki.
This
>is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can easily
>upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
>immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.
>
>The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works
for
>people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to verify
>that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.
>
>So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
>(perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank document
>and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.
>
>Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:
>
>1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
>2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
>4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>
>If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your success/failure
>was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead and
>create something similar for each plugin.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>- Kerry
>
>PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best format
>options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can make
>immediate use of the presets.
>
>PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy
to
>create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
>skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
>suggestions.
>
>- K.
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98034 is a reply to message #98032] Thu, 17 April 2008 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Oh, you know it. Next month or two I'm inheriting a 2-card one-MEC rig from
Rueben at Lucky Dog Studios with a few I/o cards.

I hope it's not controversial to say this, but - I mean, I love Macs and
I've been a big advocate all my life - but I see the writing on the wall and
I've completely abandoned the thought of going back to running it on a Mac
myself.

If I shop smart, I have no doubt that few-years-old-but-known-PARIS-friendly
PC can be found that would run rings around my old beige G3 setup - for not
much more than "free if you take it away" prices - and allow me the greater
flexibility of a far more modern OS with software and plugins still in
development.

It will of course mean leaving the Mac for running PARIS (I'd still run
Logic 8 on my dual G5 for virtual instrument production and everything else,
make the PARIS rig a fairly stripped-down dedicated DAW and use a dual KVM
switcher to toggle between them) - but all things considered I'd vastly
prefer jumping to XP on a four-year-old computer that still has some upgrade
potential to jumping back to OS9 on a nine-year old one that has virtually
none.

And as nobody has been writing new software for Mac OS9.x for years, all of
the greatest potentialities that might open up for PARIS in the future,
enabling currently-unseen workarounds and functionality (Wormhole,
FaderWorks, VFX-4), will be locked to PCs.

Although my own situation is simply that - my own situation - it also seems
a good idea to me right now for me to help encourage our small pool of
developers to focus their limited time and resources on one platform.

So there it is; one guy's opinion :D

- Kerry

On 4/17/08 7:19 AM, in article 48075c8c$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
<ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Hey Kerry!
>
> You are Da Man! Might there be another Paris rig in your future?
>
> Gantt
>
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> Hey all -
>>
>> I'm testing "user file upload/download" functionality on the PARISWiki.
> This
>> is so if you come up with a cool preset you'd like to share, you can easily
>> upload a.ppj containing it directly to the server, where it will then
>> immediately become visible/available to the community as a download.
>>
>> The "help needed" here is this: I need to get a handle on how this works
> for
>> people outside my own IP/cookies. I know it works for me, I need to verify
>> that I have the proper permissions set so it also works for others.
>>
>> So what would be great is if some folks can try uploading a test file
>> (perfect choice would be to open any text editor, create a blank document
>> and save it as TEST.txt) - then try downloading it.
>>
>> Ideal would be to test it under the following four conditions:
>>
>> 1) Not logged into the Wiki - uploading
>> 2) Not logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>> 3) Logged in to the Wiki - uploading
>> 4) Logged in to the Wiki - downloading
>>
>> If you try this out, let me know in this thread what your success/failure
>> was like in each condition, and once I have enough info I'll go ahead and
>> create something similar for each plugin.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> - Kerry
>>
>> PS: no need to upload FX presets quite yet, I want to sort the best format
>> options out first so all users regardless of OS or PARIS version can make
>> immediate use of the presets.
>>
>> PPS: If you think of other types of PARIS-related files it might be handy
> to
>> create upload/download functionality for on the Wiki - PARIS wallpaper,
>> skins, track sheets, tables, cheatsheets - I'm happy to entertain
>> suggestions.
>>
>> - K.
>>
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98039 is a reply to message #98034] Thu, 17 April 2008 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

I've thought long and hard about whether or not to switch my Paris activities
to PC. I suspect I'd bet a lot more horsepower and, maybe, more stability.
I've all but stopped using my UAD-1 cards because they began making so many
strange noises running on my Mac. I'd love to be able to use the new Powered
plugins and the newer Waves stuff that I already own in Paris! I've done
some asking around about what would be involved with putting together a Paris
PC but I didn't get very serious about it. I wonder what it would cost...

Gantt

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:

>I hope it's not controversial to say this, but - I mean, I love Macs and
>I've been a big advocate all my life - but I see the writing on the wall
and
>I've completely abandoned the thought of going back to running it on a Mac
>myself.
>
>If I shop smart, I have no doubt that few-years-old-but-known-PARIS-friendly
>PC can be found that would run rings around my old beige G3 setup - for
not
>much more than "free if you take it away" prices - and allow me the greater
>flexibility of a far more modern OS with software and plugins still in
>development.
>
>It will of course mean leaving the Mac for running PARIS (I'd still run
>Logic 8 on my dual G5 for virtual instrument production and everything else,
>make the PARIS rig a fairly stripped-down dedicated DAW and use a dual KVM
>switcher to toggle between them) - but all things considered I'd vastly
>prefer jumping to XP on a four-year-old computer that still has some upgrade
>potential to jumping back to OS9 on a nine-year old one that has virtually
>none.
>
>And as nobody has been writing new software for Mac OS9.x for years, all
of
>the greatest potentialities that might open up for PARIS in the future,
>enabling currently-unseen workarounds and functionality (Wormhole,
>FaderWorks, VFX-4), will be locked to PCs.
>
>Although my own situation is simply that - my own situation - it also seems
>a good idea to me right now for me to help encourage our small pool of
>developers to focus their limited time and resources on one platform.
>
>So there it is; one guy's opinion :D
>
>- Kerry


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: PARISWiki: QUICK TEST HELP WANTED [message #98041 is a reply to message #98039] Thu, 17 April 2008 14:02 Go to previous message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
Messages: 1529
Registered: February 2009
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If you were content to take just a modest speedbump up, just to get in the
game - I bet you could do worse than buying a used, known-PARIS-friendly PC
for peanuts off a PARIS user that had upgraded - that's what I thought of
doing. After all - PARIS worked on Pentium 166s; some six-year-old
cinderblock running a lean, stripped-out XP is probably going to seem like
the Millennium Falcon to it, and be noticeably faster than an older Mac.

That'd get you into the XP game dirt cheap, with at least the same level of
functionality you have today and probably more, and with a minimum of
disruption. Wonder if anyone's sitting on a solid old PARIS PC that's been
gathering dust because it's a sub-$200 unit that's "not worth the effort of
selling"? I was considering asking that very same thing on the "for sale"
group.

I don't know about strange noises - but one thing that I found was
impossible to do on a Mac that I badly desired to was "upgrade the power
supply". After all that painful experience taught the PARIS community about
PARIS' absolute need for robust power supplies and cool running
temperatures, a lot of crashes I used to have in my attic studio snapped
into focus - but no dice. So given PARIS' historical finicky nature with
too-small power supplies, that was one of the first things I wanted to make
certain was solid as a rock on a PC.

- Kerry

On 4/17/08 1:44 PM, in article 4807b6be$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
<ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> I've thought long and hard about whether or not to switch my Paris activities
> to PC. I suspect I'd bet a lot more horsepower and, maybe, more stability.
> I've all but stopped using my UAD-1 cards because they began making so many
> strange noises running on my Mac. I'd love to be able to use the new Powered
> plugins and the newer Waves stuff that I already own in Paris! I've done
> some asking around about what would be involved with putting together a Paris
> PC but I didn't get very serious about it. I wonder what it would cost...
>
> Gantt
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>
>> I hope it's not controversial to say this, but - I mean, I love Macs and
>> I've been a big advocate all my life - but I see the writing on the wall
> and
>> I've completely abandoned the thought of going back to running it on a Mac
>> myself.
>>
>> If I shop smart, I have no doubt that few-years-old-but-known-PARIS-friendly
>> PC can be found that would run rings around my old beige G3 setup - for
> not
>> much more than "free if you take it away" prices - and allow me the greater
>> flexibility of a far more modern OS with software and plugins still in
>> development.
>>
>> It will of course mean leaving the Mac for running PARIS (I'd still run
>> Logic 8 on my dual G5 for virtual instrument production and everything else,
>> make the PARIS rig a fairly stripped-down dedicated DAW and use a dual KVM
>> switcher to toggle between them) - but all things considered I'd vastly
>> prefer jumping to XP on a four-year-old computer that still has some upgrade
>> potential to jumping back to OS9 on a nine-year old one that has virtually
>> none.
>>
>> And as nobody has been writing new software for Mac OS9.x for years, all
> of
>> the greatest potentialities that might open up for PARIS in the future,
>> enabling currently-unseen workarounds and functionality (Wormhole,
>> FaderWorks, VFX-4), will be locked to PCs.
>>
>> Although my own situation is simply that - my own situation - it also seems
>> a good idea to me right now for me to help encourage our small pool of
>> developers to focus their limited time and resources on one platform.
>>
>> So there it is; one guy's opinion :D
>>
>> - Kerry
>


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