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Latest Paris MB recommendations? [message #98279] Sun, 27 April 2008 17:16 Go to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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It seems I need a new one. Well, I do need a new one because the last one
is half stuffed, regardless of whether that's what's stopping my system from
working, and I need the system to work, and soon.

Anybody got any good current ones, preferably something which will run an
Athlon 64 3000?

Cheers,
Kim.
Forget it - I bought one. ;o) [message #98288 is a reply to message #98279] Sun, 27 April 2008 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA& s=AM2

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>It seems I need a new one. Well, I do need a new one because the last one
>is half stuffed, regardless of whether that's what's stopping my system
from
>working, and I need the system to work, and soon.
>
>Anybody got any good current ones, preferably something which will run an
>Athlon 64 3000?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
Re: Forget it - I bought one. ;o) [message #98289 is a reply to message #98288] Sun, 27 April 2008 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Make sure to use nVidia graphics card with that, since it's a nForce
chipset. Other recommends are shut down any ports (USB, serial,
parallel/LPT, network, onboard sound card) that you aren't going to use.
Stick to the recommended RAM list if you can. If not, go to www.crucial.com
and pick out what they recommend. Buy a matched pair as this MoBo is a Dual
Channel type - 1 GB is all you should need (2x512). Quality power supply.
Don't bother with overclocking. Don't use it for internet, and don't load a
bunch of MS Updates pertaining to security/internet, you'll use way less
system resources that way. WinXP Service Pack 1 is preferrable IMHO, but SP2
will work. And of course, point your browser to www.ensoniq.ca and buy all
the killer plugs. Be sure to set the path variable correctly for the new
plugs. Get Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image.

Get the system stable, do an image THEN add Paris to the equation. Install
it to C:\PARIS, not the default and you'll have less problems/things move
faster. Once it's all happy/together, do another separate system image.
But you probably already know all this....

Kerry, are you watching ? :)

AA

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481565a0$1@linux...
>
>
> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA& s=AM2
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>It seems I need a new one. Well, I do need a new one because the last one
>>is half stuffed, regardless of whether that's what's stopping my system
> from
>>working, and I need the system to work, and soon.
>>
>>Anybody got any good current ones, preferably something which will run an
>>Athlon 64 3000?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
Re: Forget it - I bought one. ;o) [message #98290 is a reply to message #98289] Sun, 27 April 2008 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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You're kidding, right? :D

- K

> Kerry, are you watching ? :)
>
> AA


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Paris WIKI install rundown... [message #98291 is a reply to message #98289] Mon, 28 April 2008 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Kerry, Aaron is right. His rundown is worth a WIKI.

I should learn to drive it myself really. I'm not sure Kerry wanted to be
wholly responsible for putting stuff in it. ;o)

Comments below...

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Make sure to use nVidia graphics card with that, since it's a nForce
>chipset.

Already got one. :o) I just hope that card isn't faulty and causing my current
issues, but I'm not seeing any evidence to suggest that.

> Other recommends are shut down any ports (USB, serial,
>parallel/LPT, network, onboard sound card) that you aren't going to use.

Indeed, though it will double as a general purpose Linux box on dual boot,
so quite a few things will need to stay. LPT is always a prime candidate
for "OFF" these days though.

>Stick to the recommended RAM list if you can. If not, go to www.crucial.com

>and pick out what they recommend. Buy a matched pair as this MoBo is a Dual

>Channel type - 1 GB is all you should need (2x512).

Well I've ordered 2 x 2GB. What I've ordered, including the 4GB bit, exactly
matches the specs crucial recommend, though they don't appear to speak in
brands, so I'm not sure there. If it's unstable I have a 1 x 512 pair from
my current setup to swap out though for fault finding.

> Quality power supply.

Truepower. :o)

>Don't bother with overclocking.

With 5200+ under the hood I don't see the point anymore, and Paris ran fine
on my 300Mhz PII. ;o)

> Don't use it for internet

Nope. Only on the Linux boot. Windows is staying clean for Paris, though
I do like to load Wavelab as well.

>, and don't load a
>bunch of MS Updates pertaining to security/internet, you'll use way less

>system resources that way.

Nice. I'll keep that in mind.

> WinXP Service Pack 1 is preferrable IMHO

That's what I've been using, though it's getting hard to load it on new setups
I've found due to driver issues.

>And of course, point your browser to www.ensoniq.ca and buy all
>the killer plugs. Be sure to set the path variable correctly for >the new
plugs.

I've already got a bunch of those plugs and haven't heard a single one! If
I don't hear them soon, I'll... ;o)

>Get Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image.

I still have Ghost somewhere and it works for me. I want True Image though.

>Get the system stable, do an image THEN add Paris to the equation.

Get system stable, then Ghost, then...

> Install
>it to C:\PARIS, not the default and you'll have less >problems/things move
faster.

Yes, my last install didn't have this. Keen to try it. Thanks for the reminder.

>Once it's all happy/together, do another separate system image.
>But you probably already know all this....

Most of it. Never hurts to hear it again prior to an install, because there's
nothing more annoying than having to do it twice. ;o)

Thanks heaps for the rundown.

Cheers,
Kim.

>
>Kerry, are you watching ? :)
>
>AA
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481565a0$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA& s=AM2
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems I need a new one. Well, I do need a new one because the last
one
>>>is half stuffed, regardless of whether that's what's stopping my system
>> from
>>>working, and I need the system to work, and soon.
>>>
>>>Anybody got any good current ones, preferably something which will run
an
>>>Athlon 64 3000?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
>
Re: Paris WIKI install rundown... [message #98292 is a reply to message #98291] Mon, 28 April 2008 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
Messages: 1529
Registered: February 2009
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Administrator
Oh, it's definitely going in. By "you're kidding", I meant "oh, you bet I'm
listening!" This is exactly the kind of detailed, specific stuff that's most
needed.

Yes, once people get over the hump of "what if I break it?" or "I'm no
expert" and just start boldly entering data directly into the Wiki
themselves, I'll breathe a little sigh of relief and start getting on to
about ten other things I have queued to do :D It's got lots of people
registered so I'm confident the interest's there, it's just a matter of
getting over the hump.

- Kerry

On 4/28/08 12:26 AM, in article 48157c0a$1@linux, "Kim"
<hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Kerry, Aaron is right. His rundown is worth a WIKI.
>
> I should learn to drive it myself really. I'm not sure Kerry wanted to be
> wholly responsible for putting stuff in it. ;o)
>
> Comments below...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> Make sure to use nVidia graphics card with that, since it's a nForce
>> chipset.
>
> Already got one. :o) I just hope that card isn't faulty and causing my current
> issues, but I'm not seeing any evidence to suggest that.
>
>> Other recommends are shut down any ports (USB, serial,
>> parallel/LPT, network, onboard sound card) that you aren't going to use.
>
> Indeed, though it will double as a general purpose Linux box on dual boot,
> so quite a few things will need to stay. LPT is always a prime candidate
> for "OFF" these days though.
>
>> Stick to the recommended RAM list if you can. If not, go to www.crucial.com
>
>> and pick out what they recommend. Buy a matched pair as this MoBo is a Dual
>
>> Channel type - 1 GB is all you should need (2x512).
>
> Well I've ordered 2 x 2GB. What I've ordered, including the 4GB bit, exactly
> matches the specs crucial recommend, though they don't appear to speak in
> brands, so I'm not sure there. If it's unstable I have a 1 x 512 pair from
> my current setup to swap out though for fault finding.
>
>> Quality power supply.
>
> Truepower. :o)
>
>> Don't bother with overclocking.
>
> With 5200+ under the hood I don't see the point anymore, and Paris ran fine
> on my 300Mhz PII. ;o)
>
>> Don't use it for internet
>
> Nope. Only on the Linux boot. Windows is staying clean for Paris, though
> I do like to load Wavelab as well.
>
>> , and don't load a
>> bunch of MS Updates pertaining to security/internet, you'll use way less
>
>> system resources that way.
>
> Nice. I'll keep that in mind.
>
>> WinXP Service Pack 1 is preferrable IMHO
>
> That's what I've been using, though it's getting hard to load it on new setups
> I've found due to driver issues.
>
>> And of course, point your browser to www.ensoniq.ca and buy all
>> the killer plugs. Be sure to set the path variable correctly for >the new
> plugs.
>
> I've already got a bunch of those plugs and haven't heard a single one! If
> I don't hear them soon, I'll... ;o)
>
>> Get Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image.
>
> I still have Ghost somewhere and it works for me. I want True Image though.
>
>> Get the system stable, do an image THEN add Paris to the equation.
>
> Get system stable, then Ghost, then...
>
>> Install
>> it to C:\PARIS, not the default and you'll have less >problems/things move
> faster.
>
> Yes, my last install didn't have this. Keen to try it. Thanks for the
> reminder.
>
>> Once it's all happy/together, do another separate system image.
>> But you probably already know all this....
>
> Most of it. Never hurts to hear it again prior to an install, because there's
> nothing more annoying than having to do it twice. ;o)
>
> Thanks heaps for the rundown.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>>
>> Kerry, are you watching ? :)
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481565a0$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA& s=AM2
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems I need a new one. Well, I do need a new one because the last
> one
>>>> is half stuffed, regardless of whether that's what's stopping my system
>>> from
>>>> working, and I need the system to work, and soon.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody got any good current ones, preferably something which will run
> an
>>>> Athlon 64 3000?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>
>>
>>
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Paris WIKI install rundown... [message #98293 is a reply to message #98292] Mon, 28 April 2008 05:56 Go to previous message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
I agree. I mean we have a forum to argue about stuff if there's disagreement
or questions about what to put in, so there's no reason it can't be the prompt
for some solid discussion and sorting out of ideas. The snowball is at the
top of the mountain. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Oh, it's definitely going in. By "you're kidding", I meant "oh, you bet
I'm
>listening!" This is exactly the kind of detailed, specific stuff that's
most
>needed.
>
>Yes, once people get over the hump of "what if I break it?" or "I'm no
>expert" and just start boldly entering data directly into the Wiki
>themselves, I'll breathe a little sigh of relief and start getting on to
>about ten other things I have queued to do :D It's got lots of people
>registered so I'm confident the interest's there, it's just a matter of
>getting over the hump.
>
>- Kerry
>
>On 4/28/08 12:26 AM, in article 48157c0a$1@linux, "Kim"
><hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Kerry, Aaron is right. His rundown is worth a WIKI.
>>
>> I should learn to drive it myself really. I'm not sure Kerry wanted to
be
>> wholly responsible for putting stuff in it. ;o)
>>
>> Comments below...
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> Make sure to use nVidia graphics card with that, since it's a nForce
>>> chipset.
>>
>> Already got one. :o) I just hope that card isn't faulty and causing my
current
>> issues, but I'm not seeing any evidence to suggest that.
>>
>>> Other recommends are shut down any ports (USB, serial,
>>> parallel/LPT, network, onboard sound card) that you aren't going to use.
>>
>> Indeed, though it will double as a general purpose Linux box on dual boot,
>> so quite a few things will need to stay. LPT is always a prime candidate
>> for "OFF" these days though.
>>
>>> Stick to the recommended RAM list if you can. If not, go to www.crucial.com
>>
>>> and pick out what they recommend. Buy a matched pair as this MoBo is
a Dual
>>
>>> Channel type - 1 GB is all you should need (2x512).
>>
>> Well I've ordered 2 x 2GB. What I've ordered, including the 4GB bit, exactly
>> matches the specs crucial recommend, though they don't appear to speak
in
>> brands, so I'm not sure there. If it's unstable I have a 1 x 512 pair
from
>> my current setup to swap out though for fault finding.
>>
>>> Quality power supply.
>>
>> Truepower. :o)
>>
>>> Don't bother with overclocking.
>>
>> With 5200+ under the hood I don't see the point anymore, and Paris ran
fine
>> on my 300Mhz PII. ;o)
>>
>>> Don't use it for internet
>>
>> Nope. Only on the Linux boot. Windows is staying clean for Paris, though
>> I do like to load Wavelab as well.
>>
>>> , and don't load a
>>> bunch of MS Updates pertaining to security/internet, you'll use way less
>>
>>> system resources that way.
>>
>> Nice. I'll keep that in mind.
>>
>>> WinXP Service Pack 1 is preferrable IMHO
>>
>> That's what I've been using, though it's getting hard to load it on new
setups
>> I've found due to driver issues.
>>
>>> And of course, point your browser to www.ensoniq.ca and buy all
>>> the killer plugs. Be sure to set the path variable correctly for >the
new
>> plugs.
>>
>> I've already got a bunch of those plugs and haven't heard a single one!
If
>> I don't hear them soon, I'll... ;o)
>>
>>> Get Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image.
>>
>> I still have Ghost somewhere and it works for me. I want True Image though.
>>
>>> Get the system stable, do an image THEN add Paris to the equation.
>>
>> Get system stable, then Ghost, then...
>>
>>> Install
>>> it to C:\PARIS, not the default and you'll have less >problems/things
move
>> faster.
>>
>> Yes, my last install didn't have this. Keen to try it. Thanks for the
>> reminder.
>>
>>> Once it's all happy/together, do another separate system image.
>>> But you probably already know all this....
>>
>> Most of it. Never hurts to hear it again prior to an install, because
there's
>> nothing more annoying than having to do it twice. ;o)
>>
>> Thanks heaps for the rundown.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>>
>>> Kerry, are you watching ? :)
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481565a0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA& s=AM2
>>>>
>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems I need a new one. Well, I do need a new one because the last
>> one
>>>>> is half stuffed, regardless of whether that's what's stopping my system
>>>> from
>>>>> working, and I need the system to work, and soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody got any good current ones, preferably something which will
run
>> an
>>>>> Athlon 64 3000?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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