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Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98300] Mon, 28 April 2008 10:49 Go to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP

Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
$50 Clearance Discount!
Your Price: $19.95

Technical Information:

a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
a.. PCG:
a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
a.. Manufacturing Technology: 0.13 micron
a.. Core Stepping: M0
a.. CPUID String: 0F25h
a.. Thermal Design Power: 87W
a.. Thermal Specification: 70°C
a.. VID Voltage Range: 1.525V

with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a big
deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
support.


AA
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98303 is a reply to message #98300] Mon, 28 April 2008 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Hey Aaron, My MOBO is Socket 478 P4. I don't think it will take a Xeon, or
will it?

Here are the specs again:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP
>
>Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
>$50 Clearance Discount!
>Your Price: $19.95
>
>Technical Information:
>
>a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
>a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
>a.. PCG:
>a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
>a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
>a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
>a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
>a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
>a.. Manufacturing Technology: 0.13 micron
>a.. Core Stepping: M0
>a.. CPUID String: 0F25h
>a.. Thermal Design Power: 87W
>a.. Thermal Specification: 70°C
>a.. VID Voltage Range: 1.525V
>
>with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a big

>deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
>support.
>
>
>AA
>
>
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98304 is a reply to message #98303] Mon, 28 April 2008 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rich is currently offline  rich
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What is the best MB for this processor with Paris??

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Aaron, My MOBO is Socket 478 P4. I don't think it will take a Xeon,
or
>will it?
>
>Here are the specs again:
> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP
>>
>>Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
>>$50 Clearance Discount!
>>Your Price: $19.95
>>
>>Technical Information:
>>
>>a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
>>a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
>>a.. PCG:
>>a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
>>a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
>>a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
>>a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
>>a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
>>a.. Manufacturing Technology: 0.13 micron
>>a.. Core Stepping: M0
>>a.. CPUID String: 0F25h
>>a.. Thermal Design Power: 87W
>>a.. Thermal Specification: 70°C
>>a.. VID Voltage Range: 1.525V
>>
>>with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a
big
>
>>deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
>>support.
>>
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98316 is a reply to message #98303] Mon, 28 April 2008 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Some of the Celeron and the last Pentium 3 processors use motherboards that
have the Flip Chip - Pin Grid Array or FC - PGA socket. - This is not a new
socket, just a new name for Socket 370.

However, Socket 370 is now dead. The Celeron and Celeron D (not a dual-core)
processors do not use Socket 370 or Socket 478 motherboards, they use the
same LGA775 socket as Pentium D (dual-core) and Pentium 4 processors, both
of which have been superceded.

Intel Pentium 4 processors (superceded) use the earlier Socket 423 and
Socket 478, or the current Socket LGA775 motherboards, which run the latest
Intel Core 2 Duo (dual-core processors) and Intel Core Quad (quad-core
processors).

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/Sockets.htm
No, it's not the same. This kind of upgrade would be more for someone that
already has this type of mobo, IMO or knows where to get one.



AA



"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48161873$1@linux...
>
> Hey Aaron, My MOBO is Socket 478 P4. I don't think it will take a Xeon,
> or
> will it?
>
> Here are the specs again:
> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP
>>
>>Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
>>$50 Clearance Discount!
>>Your Price: $19.95
>>
>>Technical Information:
>>
>>a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
>>a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
>>a.. PCG:
>>a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
>>a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
>>a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
>>a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
>>a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
>>a.. Manufacturing Technology: 0.13 micron
>>a.. Core Stepping: M0
>>a.. CPUID String: 0F25h
>>a.. Thermal Design Power: 87W
>>a.. Thermal Specification: 70°C
>>a.. VID Voltage Range: 1.525V
>>
>>with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a big
>
>>deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
>>support.
>>
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98317 is a reply to message #98304] Mon, 28 April 2008 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
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That's kind of a loaded question. I'd say start by looking over reviews at
Tom's Hardware to see what was recommended in the past, sifting out the nut
case crowd (IE, no overclocking/how far can I push it types). It's entirely
possible that you can't find a mobo for it, which is more or less why I said
upgrade instead of new rig. I see this as more of an upgrade to someone
that already has a compatible motherboard.

I'd say the standard for this era CPU are going to be 5 PCI slots, onboard
USB and stick to name brands like Asus, Abit or Gigabyte. Use Intel chipset
for the motherboard. This is a socket 370, also known as a flip chip also
known as FCPGA (Flip Chip - Pin Grid Array). That is the CPU socket you're
looking for in the bargain bins for mother boards.

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk:80/Sockets.htm

Hopefully that helps clear up some things?
AA


"Rich" <studiodog@milwaukeerocks.com> wrote in message
news:48161e55$1@linux...
>
> What is the best MB for this processor with Paris??
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Aaron, My MOBO is Socket 478 P4. I don't think it will take a Xeon,
> or
>>will it?
>>
>>Here are the specs again:
>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP
>>>
>>>Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
>>>$50 Clearance Discount!
>>>Your Price: $19.95
>>>
>>>Technical Information:
>>>
>>>a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
>>>a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
>>>a.. PCG:
>>>a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
>>>a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
>>>a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
>>>a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
>>>a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
>>>a.. Manufacturing Technology: 0.13 micron
>>>a.. Core Stepping: M0
>>>a.. CPUID String: 0F25h
>>>a.. Thermal Design Power: 87W
>>>a.. Thermal Specification: 70°C
>>>a.. VID Voltage Range: 1.525V
>>>
>>>with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a
> big
>>
>>>deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
>>>support.
>>>
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98321 is a reply to message #98317] Tue, 29 April 2008 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2006
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Hi Aaron,
That series of Xeons didn't work on standard single CPU mobos.
They also so ran very very very hot like all the older net burst based Intel chips did.

In the time period of that CPU AMD was/is a far better choice imho.
Of course like the p4 /Xeon CPUs they are all discontinued as well as the motherboards for them.

A NForce 3 chip set based AMD motherboard from Gigabyte or ASUS were I think the best option going back in that time.

I have a morbid curiosity to try Paris on a current motherboard but don't have access to the hardware anymore.

Chris



Chris

Aaron Allen wrote:
> That's kind of a loaded question. I'd say start by looking over reviews at
> Tom's Hardware to see what was recommended in the past, sifting out the nut
> case crowd (IE, no overclocking/how far can I push it types). It's entirely
> possible that you can't find a mobo for it, which is more or less why I said
> upgrade instead of new rig. I see this as more of an upgrade to someone
> that already has a compatible motherboard.
>
> I'd say the standard for this era CPU are going to be 5 PCI slots, onboard
> USB and stick to name brands like Asus, Abit or Gigabyte. Use Intel chipset
> for the motherboard. This is a socket 370, also known as a flip chip also
> known as FCPGA (Flip Chip - Pin Grid Array). That is the CPU socket you're
> looking for in the bargain bins for mother boards.
>
> http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk:80/Sockets.htm
>
> Hopefully that helps clear up some things?
> AA
>
>
> "Rich" <studiodog@milwaukeerocks.com> wrote in message
> news:48161e55$1@linux...
>> What is the best MB for this processor with Paris??
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Aaron, My MOBO is Socket 478 P4. I don't think it will take a Xeon,
>> or
>>> will it?
>>>
>>> Here are the specs again:
>>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP
>>>>
>>>> Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
>>>> $50 Clearance Discount!
>>>> Your Price: $19.95
>>>>
>>>> Technical Information:
>>>>
>>>> a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
>>>> a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
>>>> a.. PCG:
>>>> a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
>>>> a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
>>>> a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
>>>> a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
>>>> a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
>>>> a.. Manufacturing Technology: 0.13 micron
>>>> a.. Core Stepping: M0
>>>> a.. CPUID String: 0F25h
>>>> a.. Thermal Design Power: 87W
>>>> a.. Thermal Specification: 70°C
>>>> a.. VID Voltage Range: 1.525V
>>>>
>>>> with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a
>> big
>>>> deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98332 is a reply to message #98321] Tue, 29 April 2008 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Meaning that if someone found a system to lend you, you'd try?

:D

- Kerry

On 4/29/08 7:34 AM, in article 4817343c$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:

> I have a morbid curiosity to try Paris on a current motherboard but don't have
> access to the hardware anymore.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98337 is a reply to message #98332] Wed, 30 April 2008 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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I'd be intensely and immensely interested in the results of such an experiment!


Gantt

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>
>:D
>
>- Kerry
>
>On 4/29/08 7:34 AM, in article 4817343c$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
><chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a morbid curiosity to try Paris on a current motherboard but don't
have
>> access to the hardware anymore.
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Paris/Intel guys, looking for a CPU upgrade?? [message #98338 is a reply to message #98332] Wed, 30 April 2008 08:38 Go to previous message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Hi Kerry,
Yes.
Mainly to see if the hardware will work on current hardware. \
With it getting harder and harder to find old PC motherboards, CPUs and such I think it would be a good thing test.
I'm already working on getting a basic 1 card 442 setup to do a test with.
If that is successful then then it will be worth pursuing the multi-card setups.

The multi-card setups would probably only be useful in a Magma chassis though sense newer motherboards will only have 2 or 3 PCI slots at best.

Chris



Kerry Galloway wrote:
> Meaning that if someone found a system to lend you, you'd try?
>
> :D
>
> - Kerry
>
> On 4/29/08 7:34 AM, in article 4817343c$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a morbid curiosity to try Paris on a current motherboard but don't have
>> access to the hardware anymore.
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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