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Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in the
recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or hope
to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:

http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122

They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck software
that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training in
using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which might
work...

Any thoughts?

Gantt


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98574 is a reply to message #98572] Mon, 05 May 2008 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Can't comment on that system, but I did some forensic
work for a murder trial using Sonic Solutions once to
try to bring some voices up that may have been the
defendant. Fun stuff! and very challenging at times.

if you get into it, let us know how it works out for you.

DC


"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in the
>recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
>forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or hope
>to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>
> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>
>They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck software
>that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training in
>using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
>that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which might
>work...
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Gantt
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98575 is a reply to message #98572] Mon, 05 May 2008 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction System"?

This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.

- K

On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
<ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in the
> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or hope
> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>
> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>
> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck software
> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training in
> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which might
> work...
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Gantt


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98578 is a reply to message #98575] Mon, 05 May 2008 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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The very first thing I did when I began researching this stuff was to email
ID to ask about their law enforcement software. I got no response.

Go figure.

Gantt

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction System"?
>
>This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.
>
>- K
>
>On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in
the
>> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
>> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or
hope
>> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>>
>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>>
>> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck
software
>> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training
in
>> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
>> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which
might
>> work...
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Gantt
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98582 is a reply to message #98578] Mon, 05 May 2008 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Artola is currently offline  Paul Artola   UNITED STATES
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Gantt -

I would give Edmund a call and see if you can catch him personally. I
haven't talked to him since SSC passed, but I meant to get in touch
and see if there were any opportunities at ID for trainers. Steve was
doing a good bit of that before his accident, so there might be
something there for you if you were interested.

SES is da bomb, I can tell you that.

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland

On 6 May 2008 11:30:42 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>The very first thing I did when I began researching this stuff was to email
>ID to ask about their law enforcement software. I got no response.
>
>Go figure.
>
>Gantt
>
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction System"?
>>
>>This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.
>>
>>- K
>>
>>On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
>><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in
>the
>>> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
>>> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or
>hope
>>> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>>>
>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>>>
>>> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck
>software
>>> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training
>in
>>> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
>>> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which
>might
>>> work...
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98584 is a reply to message #98578] Mon, 05 May 2008 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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Hey Gantt,

I know someone in town here that has made a LOT of money doing this over
the years with simple tools like Soundesigner, DNR and ProTools. It
took him quite a while to be recognized as an "audio expert". As the
person processing the files, you will be called upon to testify to your
work and results. You will also be grilled by opposing council who will
try to discredit you, and will have their own experts to counter your
findings. It took my acquaintance several years before he was actually
accepted at face value (mostly because by that time, he had already
worked for many of the lawyers!). Be prepared to read books on being a
professional witness (yes, they do have them) and have a lengthy list of
audio engineering clients and references...

My $.02

Best of luck!

David.

Gantt Kushner wrote:
> The very first thing I did when I began researching this stuff was to email
> ID to ask about their law enforcement software. I got no response.
>
> Go figure.
>
> Gantt
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction System"?
>>
>> This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
>> <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in
> the
>>> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
>>> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or
> hope
>>> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>>>
>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>>>
>>> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck
> software
>>> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training
> in
>>> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
>>> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which
> might
>>> work...
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98586 is a reply to message #98582] Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Say.. speaking of... Does anyone know what happened to the White House tapes
that SSC was going to bid working on?

AA


"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Gantt -
>
> I would give Edmund a call and see if you can catch him personally. I
> haven't talked to him since SSC passed, but I meant to get in touch
> and see if there were any opportunities at ID for trainers. Steve was
> doing a good bit of that before his accident, so there might be
> something there for you if you were interested.
>
> SES is da bomb, I can tell you that.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
> On 6 May 2008 11:30:42 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>The very first thing I did when I began researching this stuff was to
>>email
>>ID to ask about their law enforcement software. I got no response.
>>
>>Go figure.
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction
>>>System"?
>>>
>>>This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.
>>>
>>>- K
>>>
>>>On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
>>><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in
>>the
>>>> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an
>>>> audio
>>>> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or
>>hope
>>>> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>>>>
>>>> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck
>>software
>>>> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training
>>in
>>>> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP
>>>> laptop
>>>> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which
>>might
>>>> work...
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>
>
Re: Audio Forensics... [message #98594 is a reply to message #98586] Mon, 05 May 2008 21:44 Go to previous message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Say.. speaking of... Does anyone know what happened to the White House tapes

>that SSC was going to bid working on?
>
>AA

He actually was working on those and told me that the infamous
gap was certainly intentional erasure. From the depth of erasure, he
thought it had been erased many times... He still thought something
might be extracted at some point though.

I wish he was still on it, huh?

DC
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