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TCB
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Every PC I've set up in the last three years has had at least one FW port.
TCB
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 17 Jan 2008 03:26:37 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>Jamie,
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>>There's plenty of room for FW and ethernet, and those should not be considered
>>luxury items. They're necessities on any computer these days. Why apple
didn't
>>include them is beyond me.
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>Apple has been moving away from Firewire for several years, starting
>with dropping it from the iPod generation right after mine.
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>It pisses me off, since they INVENTED the damn format. And it's
>superiror to USB2 for large data transfers, especially lin audio and
>video.
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>But in their desperation to capture the PC market, I truly believe
>they "dumbed down" the iPod and other devices to USB2 since most pc's
>don't have firewire, and do have USB. So, the rest of us faithful who
>have been using firewire for years get screwed because Joe Average
>only has USB. And it also kinda pisses me off that most people think
>Microsoft and Intel invented the whole USB concept, when Apple had the
>Apple Desktop Bus since the IIgs model.
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>At least the pro Macs still have firewire. But that was one of the
>reasons I bought my iPod Photo and didn't hold off for the iPod Video.
>Mine is the last generation that uses FIrewire -- the next model will
>still charge via Firewire, but will only sync up via USB2. And when I
>bought it, I only had USB1 ports and refused to buy a separate card.
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>pab
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| Re: To Air is Human [message #94814 is a reply to message #94800] |
Thu, 17 January 2008 08:06 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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I think that had a lot more to do with Citibank writing off $19 billion in
bad mortgage loans. Like or not, markets tend to move monolithically. Then
again, Sun got a bump by buying MySQL so maybe the market did look dimly
on that stuff.
TCB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Another indicator that this was a bad move is Apple's stock price, it's
dropped
>$35.00 to 40.00 a share. Hopefully they get the message.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>I was disappointed when they dumped the FW on the iPods. Most of the Macs
>>I own have USB 1.1 which is really slow, and doesn't work as well as FW.
>> They left out all the people that have external FW drives with this lap
>>top. There answer is for us to spend another $300 to $500, and un-securely
>>back up over the air. Some times they are just too whiz-bang, consumer
>oriented,
>>they need to think prosumer.
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>>I wish Apple would stop building obsolescence in to their products. They
>>have put iSight cameras on the iMac and all the lap tops, why wouldn't
they
>>put one on the iPhone and the iPods? Why not add a mic to the iPod so
you
>>could do dictation or record lectures. I hate having to buy add on doodads.
>> The whole idea, is suppose to be portability. I don't want to carry more
>>stuff.
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>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>On 17 Jan 2008 03:26:37 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>Jamie,
>>>>
>>>>There's plenty of room for FW and ethernet, and those should not be considered
>>>>luxury items. They're necessities on any computer these days. Why apple
>>didn't
>>>>include them is beyond me.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Apple has been moving away from Firewire for several years, starting
>>>with dropping it from the iPod generation right after mine.
>>>
>>>It pisses me off, since they INVENTED the damn format. And it's
>>>superiror to USB2 for large data transfers, especially lin audio and
>>>video.
>>>
>>>But in their desperation to capture the PC market, I truly believe
>>>they "dumbed down" the iPod and other devices to USB2 since most pc's
>>>don't have firewire, and do have USB. So, the rest of us faithful who
>>>have been using firewire for years get screwed because Joe Average
>>>only has USB. And it also kinda pisses me off that most people think
>>>Microsoft and Intel invented the whole USB concept, when Apple had the
>>>Apple Desktop Bus since the IIgs model.
>>>
>>>At least the pro Macs still have firewire. But that was one of the
>>>reasons I bought my iPod Photo and didn't hold off for the iPod Video.
>>>Mine is the last generation that uses FIrewire -- the next model will
>>>still charge via Firewire, but will only sync up via USB2. And when I
>>>bought it, I only had USB1 ports and refused to buy a separate card.
>>>
>>>pab
>>
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| Re: To Air is Human [message #94826 is a reply to message #94802] |
Thu, 17 January 2008 13:26 |
excelav
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"Neil" <IOIO@OI.com> wrote:
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Another indicator that this was a bad move is Apple's stock price, it's
>dropped
>>$35.00 to 40.00 a share. Hopefully they get the message.
>
>I think Steve might be running out of ideas... this is nothing
>revolutionary or market-changing.
>
>Neil
The MacBook air is definitely innovative. There is nothing on the market
that is that thin, with that much battery life, and is that light with that
big of a screen. I think they tried to cut corners and maximize profits
too much, and forgot real customer needs in the process. The design may
have not allowed for the FW port, and Intel may have had something to do
with the decision. If you watch the keynote video on Apple's web site, and
fast forward to the MacBook Air, you'll see the size of the MOBO is incredibly
small. I'm sure it's great for the guy that has to travel all the time.
However, I would have rather had a bit thicker MacBook with more ports and
an optical drive. For me, the regular MacBook is the way to go, It's faster
and it's $700 cheaper.
If the cost was $999.00, we'd for give them for the lack of a FW port, although,
I still need FW, especially on a portable.
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| Re: To Air is Human [message #94851 is a reply to message #94826] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 03:03 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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yeah but they'll probably have to beef up the cases to protect the
thinner laptops. i'm not being negative here on the product i'd
rather see the innards improved and bugs ironed out.
On 18 Jan 2008 07:26:06 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Neil" <IOIO@OI.com> wrote:
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Another indicator that this was a bad move is Apple's stock price, it's
>>dropped
>>>$35.00 to 40.00 a share. Hopefully they get the message.
>>
>>I think Steve might be running out of ideas... this is nothing
>>revolutionary or market-changing.
>>
>>Neil
>
>The MacBook air is definitely innovative. There is nothing on the market
>that is that thin, with that much battery life, and is that light with that
>big of a screen. I think they tried to cut corners and maximize profits
>too much, and forgot real customer needs in the process. The design may
>have not allowed for the FW port, and Intel may have had something to do
>with the decision. If you watch the keynote video on Apple's web site, and
>fast forward to the MacBook Air, you'll see the size of the MOBO is incredibly
>small. I'm sure it's great for the guy that has to travel all the time.
> However, I would have rather had a bit thicker MacBook with more ports and
>an optical drive. For me, the regular MacBook is the way to go, It's faster
>and it's $700 cheaper.
>
>If the cost was $999.00, we'd for give them for the lack of a FW port, although,
>I still need FW, especially on a portable.
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