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| Re: Ivory going to iLok [message #94910 is a reply to message #94909] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 23:15   |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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I hear you and feel your pain. I'm thinking I might need a 16 port USB hub
sometime this year - 4 just isn't going to cut it. Pretty ridiculous
really.
Btw - I believe iLok is $35. I'll have to buy 4 in a few weeks to upgrade
EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum to the Play system (and run it on separate
systems, but at least now I can mix and match/move them at will without
having to deauthorize/reauthorize - assuming Play runs as well as
Kontakt...).
On the upside, VSL is rumored to have announced Vienna Instruments 3 with
cross platform midi and audio transfer built into the player so you can
simply connect Macs and/or PCs via ethernet and run sections on different
machines without midi or audio interfaces - that's really sweet (like having
FX Teleport and MidiOverLan built in). Downside, there again, multiple
Vienna USB keys.
These things are multiplying like rabbits....
Dedric
On 1/19/08 12:02 AM, in article 4791a412@linux, "Jamie K"
<Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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> Wow, big announcement from Synthogy at NAMM. Ilok now required!
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> http://www.synthogy.com/register/ilok_information.html
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> My first reaction is not positive. Why should I be excited by this?
>
> I just got rid of a dongle for Logic, now I have to add one?
>
> What does an iLok cost?
>
> Dusting off NI's Akoustic Piano...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
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| Re: Ivory going to iLok [message #94911 is a reply to message #94910] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 23:45 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I wonder if someone has created a virtual 'drive' that could be used for
these iLok things. Kind of like the no cd fix for games so you don't have to
keep looking for 'where did I put that darn CD at'.
Originally I was very much for iLok (even razzing Edmund from the go for
choosing Pace) but if you're seriously having to look at a 16 port USB hub
just to use what you have rightfully paid for the usage of, something is
really really wrong with this picture man.
AA
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C3B6F1A7.10AE1%dterry@keyofd.net...
>I hear you and feel your pain. I'm thinking I might need a 16 port USB hub
> sometime this year - 4 just isn't going to cut it. Pretty ridiculous
> really.
>
> Btw - I believe iLok is $35. I'll have to buy 4 in a few weeks to upgrade
> EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum to the Play system (and run it on
> separate
> systems, but at least now I can mix and match/move them at will without
> having to deauthorize/reauthorize - assuming Play runs as well as
> Kontakt...).
>
> On the upside, VSL is rumored to have announced Vienna Instruments 3 with
> cross platform midi and audio transfer built into the player so you can
> simply connect Macs and/or PCs via ethernet and run sections on different
> machines without midi or audio interfaces - that's really sweet (like
> having
> FX Teleport and MidiOverLan built in). Downside, there again, multiple
> Vienna USB keys.
>
> These things are multiplying like rabbits....
>
> Dedric
>
> On 1/19/08 12:02 AM, in article 4791a412@linux, "Jamie K"
> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, big announcement from Synthogy at NAMM. Ilok now required!
>>
>> http://www.synthogy.com/register/ilok_information.html
>>
>> My first reaction is not positive. Why should I be excited by this?
>>
>> I just got rid of a dongle for Logic, now I have to add one?
>>
>> What does an iLok cost?
>>
>> Dusting off NI's Akoustic Piano...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
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| Re: Ivory going to iLok [message #94916 is a reply to message #94911] |
Sat, 19 January 2008 06:22 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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I was half joking about 16 ports, but for sure, 4 isn't enough for my main
system (already has 4 on it, and more to come), and in truth, more than 8 on
one isn't unlikely, esp. with other USB devices (keyboard, x-keys, thumb
drives for small project/data transfers, etc).
You can combine iLok apps on a single key (up to 100 I think), but if you
want to split them to different machines, or you aren't comfortable (and
your insurance company isn't) with all of your software investment riding on
a single $35 piece of plastic, then that's out (and it pays to be sure the
developer supports iLok's backup system - some don't); then there are the
multiple formats - iLok, Syncrosoft, Wibu, and one I have that seems to be
none of the above.
I agree that it's better than Pace and probably a move in the right
direction and probably the best option for copy protection in general, other
than honesty, but it does seem silly in a lot of other ways.
Dedric
On 1/19/08 12:45 AM, in article 4791ae54@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> I wonder if someone has created a virtual 'drive' that could be used for
> these iLok things. Kind of like the no cd fix for games so you don't have to
> keep looking for 'where did I put that darn CD at'.
> Originally I was very much for iLok (even razzing Edmund from the go for
> choosing Pace) but if you're seriously having to look at a 16 port USB hub
> just to use what you have rightfully paid for the usage of, something is
> really really wrong with this picture man.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C3B6F1A7.10AE1%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> I hear you and feel your pain. I'm thinking I might need a 16 port USB hub
>> sometime this year - 4 just isn't going to cut it. Pretty ridiculous
>> really.
>>
>> Btw - I believe iLok is $35. I'll have to buy 4 in a few weeks to upgrade
>> EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum to the Play system (and run it on
>> separate
>> systems, but at least now I can mix and match/move them at will without
>> having to deauthorize/reauthorize - assuming Play runs as well as
>> Kontakt...).
>>
>> On the upside, VSL is rumored to have announced Vienna Instruments 3 with
>> cross platform midi and audio transfer built into the player so you can
>> simply connect Macs and/or PCs via ethernet and run sections on different
>> machines without midi or audio interfaces - that's really sweet (like
>> having
>> FX Teleport and MidiOverLan built in). Downside, there again, multiple
>> Vienna USB keys.
>>
>> These things are multiplying like rabbits....
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 1/19/08 12:02 AM, in article 4791a412@linux, "Jamie K"
>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, big announcement from Synthogy at NAMM. Ilok now required!
>>>
>>> http://www.synthogy.com/register/ilok_information.html
>>>
>>> My first reaction is not positive. Why should I be excited by this?
>>>
>>> I just got rid of a dongle for Logic, now I have to add one?
>>>
>>> What does an iLok cost?
>>>
>>> Dusting off NI's Akoustic Piano...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>
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| Re: Ivory going to iLok [message #94918 is a reply to message #94916] |
Sat, 19 January 2008 08:58 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
Registered: October 2006
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Dedric... all your licenses don't reside on a $35 piece of
plastic with an EPROM inside it, they reside on the iLok
website!
That's how you can also move a license from one iLok to another.
It seems to be really easy to manage... I've only had to do it
once (port a license over from one key to another), but it was
pretty painless.
Believe me, it's WAY better than having multiple instances of
the PACE virus on your hard drive.
Neil
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I was half joking about 16 ports, but for sure, 4 isn't enough for my main
>system (already has 4 on it, and more to come), and in truth, more than
8 on
>one isn't unlikely, esp. with other USB devices (keyboard, x-keys, thumb
>drives for small project/data transfers, etc).
>
>You can combine iLok apps on a single key (up to 100 I think), but if you
>want to split them to different machines, or you aren't comfortable (and
>your insurance company isn't) with all of your software investment riding
on
>a single $35 piece of plastic, then that's out (and it pays to be sure the
>developer supports iLok's backup system - some don't); then there are the
>multiple formats - iLok, Syncrosoft, Wibu, and one I have that seems to
be
>none of the above.
>
>I agree that it's better than Pace and probably a move in the right
>direction and probably the best option for copy protection in general, other
>than honesty, but it does seem silly in a lot of other ways.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 1/19/08 12:45 AM, in article 4791ae54@linux, "Aaron Allen"
><know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if someone has created a virtual 'drive' that could be used for
>> these iLok things. Kind of like the no cd fix for games so you don't have
to
>> keep looking for 'where did I put that darn CD at'.
>> Originally I was very much for iLok (even razzing Edmund from the go for
>> choosing Pace) but if you're seriously having to look at a 16 port USB
hub
>> just to use what you have rightfully paid for the usage of, something
is
>> really really wrong with this picture man.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>> news:C3B6F1A7.10AE1%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> I hear you and feel your pain. I'm thinking I might need a 16 port USB
hub
>>> sometime this year - 4 just isn't going to cut it. Pretty ridiculous
>>> really.
>>>
>>> Btw - I believe iLok is $35. I'll have to buy 4 in a few weeks to upgrade
>>> EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum to the Play system (and run it on
>>> separate
>>> systems, but at least now I can mix and match/move them at will without
>>> having to deauthorize/reauthorize - assuming Play runs as well as
>>> Kontakt...).
>>>
>>> On the upside, VSL is rumored to have announced Vienna Instruments 3
with
>>> cross platform midi and audio transfer built into the player so you can
>>> simply connect Macs and/or PCs via ethernet and run sections on different
>>> machines without midi or audio interfaces - that's really sweet (like
>>> having
>>> FX Teleport and MidiOverLan built in). Downside, there again, multiple
>>> Vienna USB keys.
>>>
>>> These things are multiplying like rabbits....
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 1/19/08 12:02 AM, in article 4791a412@linux, "Jamie K"
>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, big announcement from Synthogy at NAMM. Ilok now required!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.synthogy.com/register/ilok_information.html
>>>>
>>>> My first reaction is not positive. Why should I be excited by this?
>>>>
>>>> I just got rid of a dongle for Logic, now I have to add one?
>>>>
>>>> What does an iLok cost?
>>>>
>>>> Dusting off NI's Akoustic Piano...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Ivory going to iLok [message #94920 is a reply to message #94918] |
Sat, 19 January 2008 08:05 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Neil - my keys don't. I don't have any with iLok yet (soon to come) - all
are Syncrosoft,
Wibu and a custom key.
Dedric
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47921e29$1@linux...
>
> Dedric... all your licenses don't reside on a $35 piece of
> plastic with an EPROM inside it, they reside on the iLok
> website!
>
> That's how you can also move a license from one iLok to another.
> It seems to be really easy to manage... I've only had to do it
> once (port a license over from one key to another), but it was
> pretty painless.
>
> Believe me, it's WAY better than having multiple instances of
> the PACE virus on your hard drive.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>I was half joking about 16 ports, but for sure, 4 isn't enough for my main
>>system (already has 4 on it, and more to come), and in truth, more than
> 8 on
>>one isn't unlikely, esp. with other USB devices (keyboard, x-keys, thumb
>>drives for small project/data transfers, etc).
>>
>>You can combine iLok apps on a single key (up to 100 I think), but if you
>>want to split them to different machines, or you aren't comfortable (and
>>your insurance company isn't) with all of your software investment riding
> on
>>a single $35 piece of plastic, then that's out (and it pays to be sure the
>>developer supports iLok's backup system - some don't); then there are the
>>multiple formats - iLok, Syncrosoft, Wibu, and one I have that seems to
> be
>>none of the above.
>>
>>I agree that it's better than Pace and probably a move in the right
>>direction and probably the best option for copy protection in general,
>>other
>>than honesty, but it does seem silly in a lot of other ways.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>On 1/19/08 12:45 AM, in article 4791ae54@linux, "Aaron Allen"
>><know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if someone has created a virtual 'drive' that could be used for
>>> these iLok things. Kind of like the no cd fix for games so you don't
>>> have
> to
>>> keep looking for 'where did I put that darn CD at'.
>>> Originally I was very much for iLok (even razzing Edmund from the go for
>>> choosing Pace) but if you're seriously having to look at a 16 port USB
> hub
>>> just to use what you have rightfully paid for the usage of, something
> is
>>> really really wrong with this picture man.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C3B6F1A7.10AE1%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>> I hear you and feel your pain. I'm thinking I might need a 16 port USB
> hub
>>>> sometime this year - 4 just isn't going to cut it. Pretty ridiculous
>>>> really.
>>>>
>>>> Btw - I believe iLok is $35. I'll have to buy 4 in a few weeks to
>>>> upgrade
>>>> EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum to the Play system (and run it on
>>>> separate
>>>> systems, but at least now I can mix and match/move them at will without
>>>> having to deauthorize/reauthorize - assuming Play runs as well as
>>>> Kontakt...).
>>>>
>>>> On the upside, VSL is rumored to have announced Vienna Instruments 3
> with
>>>> cross platform midi and audio transfer built into the player so you can
>>>> simply connect Macs and/or PCs via ethernet and run sections on
>>>> different
>>>> machines without midi or audio interfaces - that's really sweet (like
>>>> having
>>>> FX Teleport and MidiOverLan built in). Downside, there again, multiple
>>>> Vienna USB keys.
>>>>
>>>> These things are multiplying like rabbits....
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 1/19/08 12:02 AM, in article 4791a412@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, big announcement from Synthogy at NAMM. Ilok now required!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.synthogy.com/register/ilok_information.html
>>>>>
>>>>> My first reaction is not positive. Why should I be excited by this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got rid of a dongle for Logic, now I have to add one?
>>>>>
>>>>> What does an iLok cost?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dusting off NI's Akoustic Piano...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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