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| Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97245] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 13:33  |
Bill L
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Purely, mon, dis be de Babylon!
The last few weeks I've been learning web design, designing a couple
sites for my new company. What a trip! I'm a pretty competent graphic
designer with the Adobe Creative Suite stuff, but I'm using MS' new
Expression Web program, which is cool, but nothing at all like designing
for print.
Anyway, my mind is slightly overwhelmed most of the time, with brief
moments of joy when something miraculously works like I want. There's so
much new terminology to learn, and the book I bought is kind of steep
(720 pages). I learned graphics by the seat of my pants. I guess I can
do the same with this.
Here's my first site:
http://wammoleads.com/default.html
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| Re: Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97260 is a reply to message #97245] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 14:44  |
Aaron Allen
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Spell check on your default page ... guaranty should be guarantee
Pretty clean, concise and easy to navigate pages, I like the layout Bill.
It's all about delivery of content in short frames of time, as you've
correctly done. Social networking pages make me absolutely insane with all
the junk 'bling' all over them.
Since you are familiar with Adobe stuff, no doubt you're aware they bought
macromedia and now handle flash. Let me just say this. As an end
user/business network installer, flash in a browser now sucks. Adobe has
totalled screwed it up... why's that matter? If you design any flash
components your pages likely will have a high correct load failure.
How good/bad is Expression Web to operate?
Proprietary components?
AA
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e41e97@linux...
> Purely, mon, dis be de Babylon!
>
> The last few weeks I've been learning web design, designing a couple sites
> for my new company. What a trip! I'm a pretty competent graphic designer
> with the Adobe Creative Suite stuff, but I'm using MS' new Expression Web
> program, which is cool, but nothing at all like designing for print.
>
> Anyway, my mind is slightly overwhelmed most of the time, with brief
> moments of joy when something miraculously works like I want. There's so
> much new terminology to learn, and the book I bought is kind of steep (720
> pages). I learned graphics by the seat of my pants. I guess I can do the
> same with this.
>
> Here's my first site:
>
> http://wammoleads.com/default.html
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| Re: Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97261 is a reply to message #97260] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 14:48 |
Jamie K
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I agree with Aaron, it's a clean layout, easy to grok.
Bill, what CSS book are you using? Do you recommend it?
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Spell check on your default page ... guaranty should be guarantee
>
> Pretty clean, concise and easy to navigate pages, I like the layout Bill.
> It's all about delivery of content in short frames of time, as you've
> correctly done. Social networking pages make me absolutely insane with all
> the junk 'bling' all over them.
>
> Since you are familiar with Adobe stuff, no doubt you're aware they bought
> macromedia and now handle flash. Let me just say this. As an end
> user/business network installer, flash in a browser now sucks. Adobe has
> totalled screwed it up... why's that matter? If you design any flash
> components your pages likely will have a high correct load failure.
>
> How good/bad is Expression Web to operate?
> Proprietary components?
>
> AA
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e41e97@linux...
>> Purely, mon, dis be de Babylon!
>>
>> The last few weeks I've been learning web design, designing a couple sites
>> for my new company. What a trip! I'm a pretty competent graphic designer
>> with the Adobe Creative Suite stuff, but I'm using MS' new Expression Web
>> program, which is cool, but nothing at all like designing for print.
>>
>> Anyway, my mind is slightly overwhelmed most of the time, with brief
>> moments of joy when something miraculously works like I want. There's so
>> much new terminology to learn, and the book I bought is kind of steep (720
>> pages). I learned graphics by the seat of my pants. I guess I can do the
>> same with this.
>>
>> Here's my first site:
>>
>> http://wammoleads.com/default.html
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| Re: Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97273 is a reply to message #97260] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 16:23 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
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Thanks Aaron. Actually guaranty is one of those words you can spell both
way, like advertising and advertizing. I seem to get confused a lot with
English spellings. Some words fall into a kind of grey area or some
other colour I can't distinguish.
I'm sorry to hear they screwed up Flash, but no wuckers, I won't be
writing any Flash stuff for a while! Adobe is tops in the print medias
area IMHO, so most likely they will sort things out soon.
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Spell check on your default page ... guaranty should be guarantee
>
> Pretty clean, concise and easy to navigate pages, I like the layout Bill.
> It's all about delivery of content in short frames of time, as you've
> correctly done. Social networking pages make me absolutely insane with all
> the junk 'bling' all over them.
>
> Since you are familiar with Adobe stuff, no doubt you're aware they bought
> macromedia and now handle flash. Let me just say this. As an end
> user/business network installer, flash in a browser now sucks. Adobe has
> totalled screwed it up... why's that matter? If you design any flash
> components your pages likely will have a high correct load failure.
>
> How good/bad is Expression Web to operate?
> Proprietary components?
>
> AA
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e41e97@linux...
>> Purely, mon, dis be de Babylon!
>>
>> The last few weeks I've been learning web design, designing a couple sites
>> for my new company. What a trip! I'm a pretty competent graphic designer
>> with the Adobe Creative Suite stuff, but I'm using MS' new Expression Web
>> program, which is cool, but nothing at all like designing for print.
>>
>> Anyway, my mind is slightly overwhelmed most of the time, with brief
>> moments of joy when something miraculously works like I want. There's so
>> much new terminology to learn, and the book I bought is kind of steep (720
>> pages). I learned graphics by the seat of my pants. I guess I can do the
>> same with this.
>>
>> Here's my first site:
>>
>> http://wammoleads.com/default.html
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| Re: Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97274 is a reply to message #97261] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 16:26 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
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I have next to no experience with other programs, but the deal with EW
is it is supposed to be extremely standards compliant. Nothing at all
like Frontpage in that regard.
I bought a book on Expression Web "Using Expression Web", but it's got
plenty of CSS in it, OY!
Jamie K wrote:
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> I agree with Aaron, it's a clean layout, easy to grok.
>
> Bill, what CSS book are you using? Do you recommend it?
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
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> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Spell check on your default page ... guaranty should be guarantee
>>
>> Pretty clean, concise and easy to navigate pages, I like the layout
>> Bill. It's all about delivery of content in short frames of time, as
>> you've correctly done. Social networking pages make me absolutely
>> insane with all the junk 'bling' all over them.
>>
>> Since you are familiar with Adobe stuff, no doubt you're aware they
>> bought macromedia and now handle flash. Let me just say this. As an
>> end user/business network installer, flash in a browser now sucks.
>> Adobe has totalled screwed it up... why's that matter? If you design
>> any flash components your pages likely will have a high correct load
>> failure.
>>
>> How good/bad is Expression Web to operate?
>> Proprietary components?
>>
>> AA
>>
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>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e41e97@linux...
>>> Purely, mon, dis be de Babylon!
>>>
>>> The last few weeks I've been learning web design, designing a couple
>>> sites for my new company. What a trip! I'm a pretty competent graphic
>>> designer with the Adobe Creative Suite stuff, but I'm using MS' new
>>> Expression Web program, which is cool, but nothing at all like
>>> designing for print.
>>>
>>> Anyway, my mind is slightly overwhelmed most of the time, with brief
>>> moments of joy when something miraculously works like I want. There's
>>> so much new terminology to learn, and the book I bought is kind of
>>> steep (720 pages). I learned graphics by the seat of my pants. I
>>> guess I can do the same with this.
>>>
>>> Here's my first site:
>>>
>>> http://wammoleads.com/default.html
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| Re: Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97287 is a reply to message #97285] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 17:28 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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as many as the days are long my son...what's my cut??? okay, now
we're really gonna piss some peeps off.
enjoy the weekend for what it means to you....
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:25:37 -0400, Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com>
wrote:
>Thank you, Father. How many Halle Berres should I do? Give me a lot!
>
>rick wrote:
>> definitely the devils work...but i forgive you.
>>
>> ;o) :o) ;o) :o) ;o) :o) ;o) :o)
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>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:33:56 -0400, Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> http://wammoleads.com/default.html
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| Re: Totally OT - HTML, CSS, Webdesign, Talk about Babylon! [message #97294 is a reply to message #97273] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 19:15 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I'm guessing here because up til now I'd assumed (and we know how that works
out) that you were born/raised American However, having seen you use the
British spelling of color as 'colour' I'm thinking now that you might be an
Englishman.
Shoot me the skinny?
AA
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e4464f$1@linux...
> Thanks Aaron. Actually guaranty is one of those words you can spell both
> way, like advertising and advertizing. I seem to get confused a lot with
> English spellings. Some words fall into a kind of grey area or some other
> colour I can't distinguish.
>
> I'm sorry to hear they screwed up Flash, but no wuckers, I won't be
> writing any Flash stuff for a while! Adobe is tops in the print medias
> area IMHO, so most likely they will sort things out soon.
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Spell check on your default page ... guaranty should be guarantee
>>
>> Pretty clean, concise and easy to navigate pages, I like the layout Bill.
>> It's all about delivery of content in short frames of time, as you've
>> correctly done. Social networking pages make me absolutely insane with
>> all the junk 'bling' all over them.
>>
>> Since you are familiar with Adobe stuff, no doubt you're aware they
>> bought macromedia and now handle flash. Let me just say this. As an end
>> user/business network installer, flash in a browser now sucks. Adobe has
>> totalled screwed it up... why's that matter? If you design any flash
>> components your pages likely will have a high correct load failure.
>>
>> How good/bad is Expression Web to operate?
>> Proprietary components?
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e41e97@linux...
>>> Purely, mon, dis be de Babylon!
>>>
>>> The last few weeks I've been learning web design, designing a couple
>>> sites for my new company. What a trip! I'm a pretty competent graphic
>>> designer with the Adobe Creative Suite stuff, but I'm using MS' new
>>> Expression Web program, which is cool, but nothing at all like designing
>>> for print.
>>>
>>> Anyway, my mind is slightly overwhelmed most of the time, with brief
>>> moments of joy when something miraculously works like I want. There's so
>>> much new terminology to learn, and the book I bought is kind of steep
>>> (720 pages). I learned graphics by the seat of my pants. I guess I can
>>> do the same with this.
>>>
>>> Here's my first site:
>>>
>>> http://wammoleads.com/default.html
>>
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