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Mon, 05 May 2008 21:10  |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: This thread dates from May, 2008. Since then, Mike Audet has addressed many facets of PARIS' drivers and is working on ASIO drivers again (more details on current ASIO driver development available here). Short form - we're getting basically all our wishes (and from inside the community!  ) so this thread is now locked and you can come contribute to this new one instead.
Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of this
hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume the
goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS app
would.
3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
5) Highly skilled work
>>>
So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero to
five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
with your "5".
If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second and
let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
"zero".
I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and not
even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get a
vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
comments to add, feel free.
Thanks in advance - Kerry
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98589 is a reply to message #98588] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 21:16  |
Aaron Allen
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If the latency is right, a 5 here. I'd love to hook a native app into my
existing structure. Gimme Gimme!
AA
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98592 is a reply to message #98589] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 21:30 |
Tom Bruhl
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Kerry,
Yes, in perfect working order with competitive latency ratings
I'd give it a 4. I'm not needing it right now but would support
the development and purchase it if it was available before I
bailed on Paris in it's end run.=20
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:481fde4e@linux...
If the latency is right, a 5 here. I'd love to hook a native app into =
my=20
existing structure. Gimme Gimme!
AA
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message=20
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake =
of=20
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 =
support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's =
assume=20
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the =
PARIS=20
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, =
Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of =
ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of =
zero=20
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm =
is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - =
we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind =
- this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, =
if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to =
chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a =
second=20
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted =
as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - =
and=20
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like =
to get=20
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any=20
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kerry,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd give it a 4. I'm not needing =
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but would support</FONT></DIV>
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was available=20
before I</FONT></DIV>
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unknown.=20
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all MEC=20
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98595 is a reply to message #98589] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 23:11 |
Edna Sloan
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Same here.
Edna
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:481fde4e@linux...
> If the latency is right, a 5 here. I'd love to hook a native app into my
> existing structure. Gimme Gimme!
>
> AA
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>> this
>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>> the
>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>> app
>> would.
>>
>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>> to
>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
>> make
>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
>> this
>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>> with your "5".
>>
>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>> and
>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>> "zero".
>>
>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>> not
>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
>> get a
>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>> (non-negative)
>> comments to add, feel free.
>>
>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be toyou? [message #98598 is a reply to message #98588] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 23:12 |
Jeff H
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If I could use it with low latency in CUbase, it'd be a 5 as well.
JH
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98599 is a reply to message #98598] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 00:32 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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Me too.
Bjorn R
"Jeff H" <jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote in message
news:481ff972@linux...
> If I could use it with low latency in CUbase, it'd be a 5 as well.
>
> JH
>
> Kerry Galloway wrote:
> > Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
> > hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
> >
> > For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
> >
> > 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
> >
> > 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
> > goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
> > would.
> >
> > 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
> >
> > 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> > Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
> >
> > 5) Highly skilled work
> >
> >
> >
> > So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> > drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
> > five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> > saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
> >
> > This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
make
> > our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
this
> > question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
> > hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> > information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> > influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
> > with your "5".
> >
> > If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> > hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
> > let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> > "zero".
> >
> > I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
> > even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get a
> > vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
(non-negative)
> > comments to add, feel free.
> >
> > Thanks in advance - Kerry
> >
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98605 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 02:01 |
erlilo
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When having 2 MECsystems with 2 cards and mixers "on ice" in Norway, it
would be a pleasure to use the Mec's and mixers on major platforms with low
latency. So between 4 and 5, is it OK for your hypothetical question?
Erling
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98607 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 03:14 |
Don Nafe
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5 and I'd be willing to cough up some of my hard earned cash too
D
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98609 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 04:01 |
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Hi Kerry,
I'm in!
Gantt
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98614 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 06:03 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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good news Kerry, I just put you in my 5
el miguel "get me those socks"
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98616 is a reply to message #98614] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 06:27 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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That would not suck
"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>good news Kerry, I just put you in my 5
>
>
>el miguel "get me those socks"
>
>
>
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>> this
>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>> the
>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>> app
>> would.
>>
>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>> to
>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
make
>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
this
>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>> with your "5".
>>
>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>> and
>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>> "zero".
>>
>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>> not
>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>> a
>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>> (non-negative)
>> comments to add, feel free.
>>
>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98617 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 07:14 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Senior Member |
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Definitely 5, if I could use Samplitude (my alternative DAW of choice at the
moment),
with existing hardware. Stability/latency would have to be
something akin to RME stuff.
Does this have something to do with a possible adaptation of
something like "asio 4 all", or a complete rewrite of the embryonic "ParisAsio"??
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98622 is a reply to message #98614] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 08:18 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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I _love_ those T-Mobile adds. We all knew Charles was a hoot but wholda thunk
D Wade had that charisma?
I do _not_ love watching the grim, boring Spurs, or their classless clutch
of coaches.
TCB
"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>good news Kerry, I just put you in my 5
>
>
>el miguel "get me those socks"
>
>
>
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>> this
>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>> the
>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>> app
>> would.
>>
>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>> to
>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
make
>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
this
>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>> with your "5".
>>
>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>> and
>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>> "zero".
>>
>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>> not
>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>> a
>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>> (non-negative)
>> comments to add, feel free.
>>
>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98633 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 18:39 |
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I just had a thought (now THERE's a dangerous prospect!) - If the MECs all
have to interface w/ the computer thru the EDS cards, wouldn't an ASIO driver
have to be able to talk to the EDS cards? And mightn't some smart software
engineer be able to think of a way, while accessing the interfaces, to make
use of all that processing power on the EDS cards? Does that seem like a
totally stupid thought or a do-able thing?
Gantt
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be toyou? [message #98635 is a reply to message #98633] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 19:39 |
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That did cross my mind :D
- K
On 5/6/08 6:39 PM, in article 48210841$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
<ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I just had a thought (now THERE's a dangerous prospect!) - If the MECs all
> have to interface w/ the computer thru the EDS cards, wouldn't an ASIO driver
> have to be able to talk to the EDS cards? And mightn't some smart software
> engineer be able to think of a way, while accessing the interfaces, to make
> use of all that processing power on the EDS cards? Does that seem like a
> totally stupid thought or a do-able thing?
>
> Gantt
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
>> would.
>>
>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
> a
>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>> with your "5".
>>
>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>> "zero".
>>
>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>> comments to add, feel free.
>>
>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98636 is a reply to message #98588] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 19:59 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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I guess it would be somewhere between a 4 and 5 for me. Thanks Kerry, for
keeping things moving forward.
Rod
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to [message #98637 is a reply to message #98635] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 20:44 |
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Well, I have to say - If there's a way to begin using new software with my
existing setup with near-zero latency, dedicated processing for however many
channels of EDS you have installed and sound that approaches or surpasses
Paris with the ability to use all the new plugins (with automatic latency
compensation!?!?) then on a scale of 1 - 5 I'm in for at least a 10! I'd
LOVE to not have to rewire my studio for a new system!
Gantt
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>That did cross my mind :D
>
>- K
>
>
>On 5/6/08 6:39 PM, in article 48210841$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I just had a thought (now THERE's a dangerous prospect!) - If the MECs
all
>> have to interface w/ the computer thru the EDS cards, wouldn't an ASIO
driver
>> have to be able to talk to the EDS cards? And mightn't some smart software
>> engineer be able to think of a way, while accessing the interfaces, to
make
>> use of all that processing power on the EDS cards? Does that seem like
a
>> totally stupid thought or a do-able thing?
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake
of
>> this
>>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>>
>>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>>
>>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>>
>>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>> the
>>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>> app
>>> would.
>>>
>>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>>
>>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>>
>>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>> to
>>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>>
>>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
make
>>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
this
>>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all,
if
>> a
>>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>>> with your "5".
>>>
>>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>> and
>>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>> "zero".
>>>
>>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot -
and
>> not
>>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>> a
>>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>>> comments to add, feel free.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>>
>>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to [message #98638 is a reply to message #98637] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 20:45 |
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By the way - Kerry, you ROCK!
gantt
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Well, I have to say - If there's a way to begin using new software with
my
>existing setup with near-zero latency, dedicated processing for however
many
>channels of EDS you have installed and sound that approaches or surpasses
>Paris with the ability to use all the new plugins (with automatic latency
>compensation!?!?) then on a scale of 1 - 5 I'm in for at least a 10! I'd
>LOVE to not have to rewire my studio for a new system!
>
>Gantt
>
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>That did cross my mind :D
>>
>>- K
>>
>>
>>On 5/6/08 6:39 PM, in article 48210841$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
>><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I just had a thought (now THERE's a dangerous prospect!) - If the MECs
>all
>>> have to interface w/ the computer thru the EDS cards, wouldn't an ASIO
>driver
>>> have to be able to talk to the EDS cards? And mightn't some smart software
>>> engineer be able to think of a way, while accessing the interfaces, to
>make
>>> use of all that processing power on the EDS cards? Does that seem like
>a
>>> totally stupid thought or a do-able thing?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake
>of
>>> this
>>>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>>>
>>>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>>>
>>>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>>> the
>>>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>>> app
>>>> would.
>>>>
>>>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>>>
>>>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of
zero
>>> to
>>>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm
is
>>>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>>>
>>>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
>make
>>>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind
-
>this
>>>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all,
>if
>>> a
>>>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
>in
>>>> with your "5".
>>>>
>>>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>>> and
>>>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted
as
>>>> "zero".
>>>>
>>>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot -
>and
>>> not
>>>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like
to
>get
>>> a
>>>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>>>> comments to add, feel free.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be toyou? [message #98641 is a reply to message #98635] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 22:58 |
Jeff H
Messages: 9
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I was thinking the same thing as I was driving down the road...maybe a
vst based wrapper that allowed the EDS environment to operate inside and
be able to insert inaudible markers on the input that could be measured
on the output for latency and autmatically adjust...
THe return of Franken computer in software!!
JH
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> That did cross my mind :D
>
> - K
>
>
> On 5/6/08 6:39 PM, in article 48210841$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
> <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I just had a thought (now THERE's a dangerous prospect!) - If the MECs all
>>have to interface w/ the computer thru the EDS cards, wouldn't an ASIO driver
>>have to be able to talk to the EDS cards? And mightn't some smart software
>>engineer be able to think of a way, while accessing the interfaces, to make
>>use of all that processing power on the EDS cards? Does that seem like a
>>totally stupid thought or a do-able thing?
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>>
>>this
>>
>>>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>>
>>>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>>
>>>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>>
>>>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>>
>>the
>>
>>>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>>
>>app
>>
>>>would.
>>>
>>>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>>
>>>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>>
>>>5) Highly skilled work
>>>
>>>
>>>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>>
>>to
>>
>>>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>>
>>>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>>>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>>>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
>>
>>a
>>
>>>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>>>with your "5".
>>>
>>>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>>
>>and
>>
>>>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>>"zero".
>>>
>>>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>>
>>not
>>
>>>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
>>
>>a
>>
>>>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>>>comments to add, feel free.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be toyou? [message #98643 is a reply to message #98641] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 00:44 |
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Seeing as my statement could easily be misconstrued, let me clarify
something here: I'm only inquiring about building a lifeboat right now, not
whether we can have Jello pudding on board :D
- Kerry
On 5/6/08 10:58 PM, in article 4821477f@linux, "Jeff H"
<jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing as I was driving down the road...maybe a
> vst based wrapper that allowed the EDS environment to operate inside and
> be able to insert inaudible markers on the input that could be measured
> on the output for latency and autmatically adjust...
>
> THe return of Franken computer in software!!
>
> JH
>
> Kerry Galloway wrote:
>> That did cross my mind :D
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 5/6/08 6:39 PM, in article 48210841$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
>> <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I just had a thought (now THERE's a dangerous prospect!) - If the MECs all
>>> have to interface w/ the computer thru the EDS cards, wouldn't an ASIO
>>> driver
>>> have to be able to talk to the EDS cards? And mightn't some smart software
>>> engineer be able to think of a way, while accessing the interfaces, to make
>>> use of all that processing power on the EDS cards? Does that seem like a
>>> totally stupid thought or a do-able thing?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>>>
>>>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>>>
>>>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>>>
>>> app
>>>
>>>> would.
>>>>
>>>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>>>
>>>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>>>
>>>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>>>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>>>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>>>> with your "5".
>>>>
>>>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>>> "zero".
>>>>
>>>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>>>
>>> not
>>>
>>>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>>>> (non-negative)
>>>> comments to add, feel free.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>>>
>>>
>>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98645 is a reply to message #98588] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 02:05 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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5
On Mon, 05 May 2008 21:10:23 -0700, Kerry Galloway
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98647 is a reply to message #98645] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 03:54 |
Robert
Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007
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Senior Member |
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5 here Kerry.
"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
news:p6s224dolpkmes5isp8593kcghpmdq8h19@4ax.com...
> 5
>
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 21:10:23 -0700, Kerry Galloway
> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>
>>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>>this
>>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>>the
>>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>>app
>>would.
>>
>>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>>5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>>to
>>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
>>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>>with your "5".
>>
>>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>>and
>>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>"zero".
>>
>>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>>not
>>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
>>a
>>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>>(non-negative)
>>comments to add, feel free.
>>
>>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98655 is a reply to message #98588] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 05:41 |
derek
Messages: 61
Registered: July 2005
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setting aside the "its not going to happen" stuff?
having true multi i/o asio drivers for the MECs would be
very cool. i have a lot of paris i/o flying around here,
always loved the way they sounded in all their ensoniq-ness
and would love to integrated that with my current setup.
derek
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98656 is a reply to message #98588] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 05:42 |
derek
Messages: 61
Registered: July 2005
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oh yeah forgot the number, so, 4 for me. i dont use paris
anymore, have a fine working setup, but would support this.
when the latency is ok.
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98658 is a reply to message #98647] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 07:27 |
Phil Aiken
Messages: 62
Registered: February 2008
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3.5
Would have been a 5 before I sold my 8-in card!!!
"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>5 here Kerry.
>
>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:p6s224dolpkmes5isp8593kcghpmdq8h19@4ax.com...
>> 5
>>
>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 21:10:23 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>>>this
>>>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>>
>>>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>>
>>>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>>
>>>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>>>the
>>>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>>>app
>>>would.
>>>
>>>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>>
>>>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>>
>>>5) Highly skilled work
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>>>to
>>>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>>
>>>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
make
>>>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
this
>>>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>>>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>>>with your "5".
>>>
>>>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>>>and
>>>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>>"zero".
>>>
>>>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>>>not
>>>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>>>a
>>>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>>>(non-negative)
>>>comments to add, feel free.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98673 is a reply to message #98588] |
Wed, 07 May 2008 23:28 |
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5 !! My 4 card Paris rig is all set to go..Bring it on Kerry.
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98674 is a reply to message #98636] |
Thu, 08 May 2008 00:14 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Senior Member |
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5
Dimitrios
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I guess it would be somewhere between a 4 and 5 for me. Thanks Kerry, for
>keeping things moving forward.
>Rod
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>this
>>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>the
>>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>app
>>would.
>>
>>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>>5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>to
>>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
>a
>>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>>with your "5".
>>
>>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>and
>>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>"zero".
>>
>>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>not
>>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>a
>>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>>comments to add, feel free.
>>
>>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98677 is a reply to message #98588] |
Thu, 08 May 2008 00:29 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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I'd give it a 5. It's the neatest, easiest, and perhaps only way I will be
able to track to other apps and then export and mix in Paris without having
to rewire anything at all.
Obviously the cost saving in not having to buy another 20 or so A/D's makes
it worth some dollars to me as well. Assuming that it would cost less than
changing over my Paris hardware to another brand of ASIO supported I/O I
can't see that I could turn it down.
Cheers,
Kim.
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98788 is a reply to message #98588] |
Wed, 14 May 2008 23:37 |
Goran Stojiljkovic
Messages: 29
Registered: October 2005
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5
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #98803 is a reply to message #98788] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 22:36 |
the sandbox
Messages: 3
Registered: February 2008
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5
"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
> 5
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>> this
>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>> the
>> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>> app
>> would.
>>
>> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>> 5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>> to
>> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we
make
>> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind -
this
>> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>> with your "5".
>>
>> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>> and
>> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>> "zero".
>>
>> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>> not
>> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>> a
>> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>> (non-negative)
>> comments to add, feel free.
>>
>> Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
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| Re: PLEASE READ! How important would ASIO drivers for PARIS be to you? [message #104489 is a reply to message #104488] |
Sat, 26 December 2009 23:18 |
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Hi folks - this thread got resurrected recently, so I just thought I'd let you all know that this thread was in fact started a year and a half ago while I was actively beating the bushes looking for external developers to resuscitate PARIS' drivers.
But that eaarly intention was soon pre-empted from *inside* the PARIS community. For those that don't know already, PARIS coder Mike Audet has been working on the PARIS drivers in his spare time over the past year and a half. He's already released a new set of PARIS drivers that don't merely enable use of PARIS on multicore computers, they remove some of the problems that were hampering ASIO - and now he's moved on to work on the ASIO drivers themselves. You'll find a status report in this thread.
So you'll be glad to hear that the votes in this thread for ASIO drivers have already been heard, and because of that I'm going to lock this thread to avoid any confusion about where we stand at the end of 2009. Please do feel free to contribute to that newer thread though!
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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