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In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #102820] Sun, 15 March 2009 11:13 Go to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Hi all. On a different topic - Reaper developer 404NotFound has just released a beta of his OMF support extension.

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=24943

Users of various other DAWs are generating OMF files right now to test it out. So I was thinking if anyone wants the ability to transfer sessions from PARIS to Reaper via OMF (just as an interim measure until we figure out how to open our .ppjs directly in Reaper Very Happy) then this would be an *excellent* time to create some OMF files from PARIS sessions, and test importing them into Reaper via the extension.

I'm half way through setting up my PARIS rig and won't be able to tackle this for a few days myself - but you know what a flaky POS OMF support can be; here's a chance to work straight with a developer virtually in realtime to make certain it's rock solid using actual PARIS-generated OMFs. We can make ours work as solidly as anyone else's.

EDITED TO ADD: don't worry about the 'edited by' tag - I removed some *really, really, really long* strings of quotes of quotes of quotes of previous material to make this thread more readable ;D


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Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #102822 is a reply to message #102820] Sun, 15 March 2009 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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The problem with that theory is the Paris never actually created OMF's very
well.
They never really stuck to the specs although, in their defence, the specs
were constantly changing, (thanks Avid / Digi).

Martin H
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On 16/03/09 5:13 AM, in article 49bd4a08$1@linux, "Administrator"
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:

> Hi all. On a different topic - Reaper developer 404NotFound has just released
> a beta of his OMF support extension.
>
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=24943
>
> Users of various other DAWs are generating OMF files right now to test it out.
> So I was thinking if anyone wants the ability to transfer sessions from PARIS
> to Reaper via OMF (just as an interim measure until we figure out how to open
> our .ppjs directly in Reaper :d) then this would be an *excellent* time to
> create some OMF files from PARIS sessions, and test importing them into Reaper
> via the extension.
>
> I'm half way through setting up my PARIS rig and won't be able to tackle this
> for a few days myself - but you know what a flaky POS OMF support can be;
> here's a chance to work straight with a developer virtually in realtime to
> make certain it's rock solid using actual PARIS-generated OMFs. We can make
> ours work as solidly as anyone else's..
>
>
> --------------------------
> :: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
> :: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
> --------------------------
Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #102825 is a reply to message #102822] Sun, 15 March 2009 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Martin Harrington wrote on Sun, 15 March 2009 20:50
The problem with that theory is the Paris never actually created OMF's very
well.
They never really stuck to the specs although, in their defence, the specs
were constantly changing, (thanks Avid / Digi).

Martin H
Lend An Ear Sound


That's entirely the point though - right now, for the first time, you have a chance to work with a developer to *assure* that PARIS-generated OMFs *will beyond any shadow of a doubt* work flawlessly with Reaper - if we give him files to work with, it will be designed from beta to do exactly that Very Happy


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Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #102880 is a reply to message #102820] Thu, 19 March 2009 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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K, I'll try to get to it this weekend if time allows - unless someone else
steps up before then.

AA

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Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #102975 is a reply to message #102880] Sun, 29 March 2009 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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OK - I just imported a PARIS OMF file into Reaper using the 404NotFound OMF Extension for Reaper.

Lots of problems (framerate wrong, file names right but region names wrong, track names wrong, tempo incorrect) - but amazingly (particularly since I just used PAF in the song) it actually works and the regions get into Reaper in their right locations - so now the fun part begins. I've uploaded both for the developer to have a look at. You can follow the progress (or lack thereof, but let's start positive Very Happy) in this thread http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=24943 (the PARIS stuff starts around post 121).




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Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #103178 is a reply to message #102975] Tue, 21 April 2009 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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But, you see...that's what it used to do, but to me, and anyone that
"needed" omf to work properly, that wasn't working.
It was a total hindrance....
The whole idea of OMF was (is), to have that info and relativity there, so
that when you are finished, you can send the mixed file to whence it came
and all would be in sync ..it never was....

Martin H
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On 30/03/09 4:27 PM, in article 49d06ae4@linux, "Administrator"
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:

> OK - I just imported a PARIS OMF file into Reaper using the 404NotFound OMF
> Extension for Reaper.
>
> Lots of problems (framerate wrong, file names right but region names wrong,
> track names wrong, tempo incorrect) - but amazingly (particularly since I just
> used PAF in the song) it actually works and the regions get into Reaper in
> their right locations - so now the fun part begins..
>
>
> --------------------------
> :: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
> :: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
> --------------------------

Martin H
Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #103186 is a reply to message #103178] Wed, 22 April 2009 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Martin Harrington wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 02:02
But, you see...that's what it used to do, but to me, and anyone that
"needed" omf to work properly, that wasn't working.
It was a total hindrance....
The whole idea of OMF was (is), to have that info and relativity there, so
that when you are finished, you can send the mixed file to whence it came
and all would be in sync ..it never was....


Hi Martin - yes, we're aware of all that, thanks. The first step was to verify that the new Reaper extension can read an OMF file generated by an eight-year-old PARIS *at all* so we have somewhere to start.


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Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #103191 is a reply to message #103186] Wed, 22 April 2009 15:52 Go to previous message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Sorry Kerry.
But I had terrible woes with OMF and Paris when it first came out, and I was
trying to use it in a pro studio, with clients waiting on me....
With all the promises of the time, I was still unable to get it to perform
anywhere near what it should.
Very dissapointing.
I hope you get it going, but have you looked at AAF, the newer transfer
proticol?
I know Paris doesn't support it, so it may be of no interest, but for audio,
that's where it's heading.


Martin H
Lend An Ear Sound

On 23/04/09 2:04 AM, in article 49ef45ee$1@linux, "Administrator"
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:

> Martin Harrington wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 02:02
>> But, you see...that's what it used to do, but to me, and anyone that
>> "needed" omf to work properly, that wasn't working.
>> It was a total hindrance....
>> The whole idea of OMF was (is), to have that info and relativity there, so
>> that when you are finished, you can send the mixed file to whence it came
>> and all would be in sync ..it never was....
>
>
> Hi Martin - yes, we're aware of all that, thanks. The first step was to verify
> that the new Reaper extension can read an OMF file generated by an
> eight-year-old PARIS *at all* so we have somewhere to start..
>
>
> --------------------------
> :: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
> :: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
> --------------------------
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