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Headphone Recommendations? [message #103261] Mon, 27 April 2009 11:10 Go to next message
Larry Hogan is currently offline  Larry Hogan   
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Registered: June 2005
Location: Upstate New York
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Greetings, PARISians,

Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop. (Fairly
frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)

Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio and
control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my basement,
but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.) Anyway,
after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and running
again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via my
near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.

Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective) headphones?
(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local businesses
and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.

Many thanks in advance,
Larry Hogan
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103265 is a reply to message #103261] Mon, 27 April 2009 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

Still love my Sennheiser HD580's. Don't know if you can still get them, though.
I have a pair of Audio Technica M50's but I don't think they're anywhere
near as accurate. They are great for bass players, though.

Gantt

"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Greetings, PARISians,
>
>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop. (Fairly
>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>
>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
and
>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my basement,
>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.) Anyway,
>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and running
>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
my
>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>
>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective) headphones?
>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local businesses
>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>Larry Hogan


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103267 is a reply to message #103265] Mon, 27 April 2009 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dnafe is currently offline  dnafe   CANADA
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Registered: February 2009
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If you could find a used pair of Grado SR325's they might fall into your
price range

Don


"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Still love my Sennheiser HD580's. Don't know if you can still get them,
> though.
> I have a pair of Audio Technica M50's but I don't think they're anywhere
> near as accurate. They are great for bass players, though.
>
> Gantt
>
> "Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Greetings, PARISians,
>>
>>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
>>(Fairly
>>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>
>>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
> and
>>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>>basement,
>>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
>>Anyway,
>>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
>>running
>>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
> my
>>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>
>>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>>headphones?
>>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
>>businesses
>>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>
>>Many thanks in advance,
>>Larry Hogan
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103269 is a reply to message #103261] Mon, 27 April 2009 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne is currently offline  Wayne   UNITED STATES
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Registered: July 2008
Location: Las Vegas
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I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run
about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck
mixing with them.
Wayne


"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:49f5fa71$1@linux...
>
> Greetings, PARISians,
>
> Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
> (Fairly
> frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>
> Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
> and
> control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
> basement,
> but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
> Anyway,
> after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
> running
> again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
> a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
> mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via my
> near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>
> Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
> headphones?
> (What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
> businesses
> and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
> too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Larry Hogan
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103272 is a reply to message #103261] Mon, 27 April 2009 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave EK is currently offline  Dave EK   CANADA
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Audio Technica ATH-M50S are quite popular.
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103278 is a reply to message #103269] Mon, 27 April 2009 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

MDR-7506's and V6's are too bright for critical listening. They're good for
editing because you hear EVERYTHING and I don't mind the low end, though.
But if ever there were a pair of cans to NOT mix with, 7506's are them!

Gantt

"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run

>about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck
>mixing with them.
>Wayne
>
>
>"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:49f5fa71$1@linux...
>>
>> Greetings, PARISians,
>>
>> Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.

>> (Fairly
>> frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>
>> Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio

>> and
>> control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>> basement,
>> but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)

>> Anyway,
>> after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and

>> running
>> again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>> a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>> mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
my
>> near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>
>> Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>> headphones?
>> (What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local

>> businesses
>> and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>> too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Larry Hogan
>
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103279 is a reply to message #103272] Mon, 27 April 2009 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
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I don't trust the low end on M50's. Seems hyped to me.

Gantt

Dave Harrison. <info@eksound.com> wrote:
>Audio Technica ATH-M50S are quite popular.


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103280 is a reply to message #103279] Mon, 27 April 2009 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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I'm probably not the guy to ask, but I've always got on very well with plain ol' AKG 270s and 271s.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103281 is a reply to message #103278] Mon, 27 April 2009 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Hogan is currently offline  Larry Hogan   
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Thanks to everyone for your quick responses. I obviously have a lot to think
about, more importantly to hopefully be able to check some of these out at
local stores. Would Guitar Center (45 minutes away) be a good source, or
might Best Buy (15 minutes drive) be just as good? (I would guess that Best
Buy would carry more like "living room" types of consumer headphones, right?)

I really don't use headphones much—hence my needing advice to think about
getting a decent pair since mine are pretty old and crumbly around the padding.
And the concept that a pair might be great for editing, but (what?) too
harsh or exhausting to also mix with seems ironic, to say the least. It would
have seemed like good 'phones would have been good 'phones. Ha. Guess I have
a lot to learn.

If a pair were really superb for both functions, my budget might be able
to stretch a bit, so any more advice is still appreciated. :-)

Thanks again.
Larry Hogan


"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>MDR-7506's and V6's are too bright for critical listening. They're good
for
>editing because you hear EVERYTHING and I don't mind the low end, though.
> But if ever there were a pair of cans to NOT mix with, 7506's are them!
>
>Gantt
>
>"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>>I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run
>>about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck

>>mixing with them.
>>Wayne
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103282 is a reply to message #103265] Mon, 27 April 2009 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Hogan is currently offline  Larry Hogan   
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Thanks, Gantt. I checked the HD-580s out online, and you're right; they're
apparently discontinued. People reviewing them at Amazon seem to recommend
the Sennheiser HD-595 as a great replacement, but the negative aspect of
some reports indicate that they're almost as loud to those around you as
they are to the wearer, and that the leakage is actually both ways and that
that is part of their supposed design superiority. Not a fan of leakage,
even though they reportedly sound great and are comfortable for long periods
of use. Comfort is a big plus, of course.

Thanks again.
Larry



"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Still love my Sennheiser HD580's. Don't know if you can still get them,
though.
> I have a pair of Audio Technica M50's but I don't think they're anywhere
>near as accurate. They are great for bass players, though.
>
>Gantt
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103284 is a reply to message #103281] Mon, 27 April 2009 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
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http://www.extremeheadphones.com/ if you need isolation that's, well..
extreme. I love mine to drum with live, nothing touches them. I think
they're a bit dark but I like that extra low end umpph live, and I got the
'black' series with the extended low end. They're pretty close to 30dB
isolation IIRC, and anything over about 100hz dies before it reaches your
ears with them.

I have the K240, this looks like the replacement model (240 Mark II).
Clarity is pretty good on my 240's, but they are very open and bleeding....
http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,1063,pid,1063 ,nodeid,2,_language,EN.html

I have tried electrostatics, and thought they were pretty good but thin for
my tastes.. YMMV.

AA


"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:49f67eb7$1@linux...
>
> Thanks to everyone for your quick responses. I obviously have a lot to
> think
> about, more importantly to hopefully be able to check some of these out at
> local stores. Would Guitar Center (45 minutes away) be a good source, or
> might Best Buy (15 minutes drive) be just as good? (I would guess that
> Best
> Buy would carry more like "living room" types of consumer headphones,
> right?)
>
> I really don't use headphones much-hence my needing advice to think about
> getting a decent pair since mine are pretty old and crumbly around the
> padding.
> And the concept that a pair might be great for editing, but (what?) too
> harsh or exhausting to also mix with seems ironic, to say the least. It
> would
> have seemed like good 'phones would have been good 'phones. Ha. Guess I
> have
> a lot to learn.
>
> If a pair were really superb for both functions, my budget might be able
> to stretch a bit, so any more advice is still appreciated. :-)
>
> Thanks again.
> Larry Hogan
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>MDR-7506's and V6's are too bright for critical listening. They're good
> for
>>editing because you hear EVERYTHING and I don't mind the low end, though.
>> But if ever there were a pair of cans to NOT mix with, 7506's are them!
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>>>I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run
>>>about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck
>
>>>mixing with them.
>>>Wayne
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103285 is a reply to message #103261] Tue, 28 April 2009 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erling is currently offline  Erling   DENMARK
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I love my AKG 240 Studio, that also match your price.
http://www.akg.com/personal/
They're half open but my experience since the early sixties with headphones,
open and halfopened systems have allways seems to be more natural in my
ears. Here in Europe, AKG and Sennheiser have allways delivered good
headphones for studio/sound use. Sennheiser HD-25 closed system, have been
defacto standard for broadway and mixing on festivals for years here in
Europe and is well worth to use if there's much noise around you.
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/category.asp?transid=ca t3
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/category.asp?transid=ca t0
Have used them for years for controllistening, when making sounds on
festivals and have seen them nearly everywhere here in Scandinavia for that
kind of jobs. In my studio, I am using Stax electrostatic HP to
controllisten since '80. It's the best "speakers" you can ever own but
prices are really at the wrong end nowaday and they are really open and
dangerous, since the sound are so good that you're not observating that it's
too easy to play with too much extremely high volume, since the sound is
just silky.
http://www.stax.co.jp/Export/SR404e.html

Good luck
Erling



"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:49f5fa71$1@linux...
>
> Greetings, PARISians,
>
> Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
> (Fairly
> frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>
> Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
> and
> control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
> basement,
> but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
> Anyway,
> after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
> running
> again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
> a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
> mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via my
> near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>
> Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
> headphones?
> (What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
> businesses
> and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
> too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Larry Hogan
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103286 is a reply to message #103269] Tue, 28 April 2009 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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That's because they have an extremely false bottom end.
As a location recordist / mixer, I, and indeed most of the location industry
use the Sony's, but mainly so we can hear the rumble of a boom mic on the
end of a pole, or traffic / Aircon noise.

Martin H
Lend An Ear Sound
On 28/04/09 7:30 AM, in article 49f629c1@linux, "Wayne Carson"
<waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:

> I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run
> about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck
> mixing with them.
> Wayne
>
>
> "Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:49f5fa71$1@linux...
>>
>> Greetings, PARISians,
>>
>> Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
>> (Fairly
>> frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>
>> Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
>> and
>> control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>> basement,
>> but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
>> Anyway,
>> after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
>> running
>> again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>> a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>> mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via my
>> near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>
>> Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>> headphones?
>> (What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
>> businesses
>> and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>> too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Larry Hogan
>
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103288 is a reply to message #103261] Tue, 28 April 2009 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
Messages: 77
Registered: September 2005
Member
Beyerdynamic DT 770 is pretty nice and isolates well. Guitar Center has regularly
offered them for $150 on their Memorial Day & Labor Day sales (if you can
wait a month or so : )

dale

P.S. I listened to several Ultrasone models & thought they were crap (rather
spendy crap too)


"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Greetings, PARISians,
>
>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop. (Fairly
>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>
>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
and
>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my basement,
>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.) Anyway,
>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and running
>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
my
>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>
>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective) headphones?
>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local businesses
>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>Larry Hogan
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103291 is a reply to message #103261] Tue, 28 April 2009 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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Registered: September 2006
Senior Member
I don't mix with them, but have good luck with AT ATH D-40 's.No complaints
yet. around $100.
not exactly snob grade but they work for me.
"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:49f5fa71$1@linux...
>
> Greetings, PARISians,
>
> Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
> (Fairly
> frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>
> Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
> and
> control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
> basement,
> but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
> Anyway,
> after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
> running
> again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
> a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
> mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via my
> near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>
> Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
> headphones?
> (What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
> businesses
> and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
> too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Larry Hogan
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103292 is a reply to message #103284] Tue, 28 April 2009 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Looks like we have the same taste in headsets, Aaron. :^)

Aaron Allen wrote:
> http://www.extremeheadphones.com/ if you need isolation that's, well..
> extreme. I love mine to drum with live, nothing touches them. I think
> they're a bit dark but I like that extra low end umpph live, and I got the
> 'black' series with the extended low end. They're pretty close to 30dB
> isolation IIRC, and anything over about 100hz dies before it reaches your
> ears with them.

+1 on the extreme isolation headphones for drumming, studio recording
with little or no bleed, and location sound. Mine lack high end but they
offer significant isolation. Great when you need it. Not as comfortable
as the 240 and I wouldn't mix with them.


> I have the K240, this looks like the replacement model (240 Mark II).
> Clarity is pretty good on my 240's, but they are very open and bleeding....
> http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,1063,pid,1063 ,nodeid,2,_language,EN.html

My AKG K240 has been a decent sounding and reasonably comfortable
headset for general studio use. Pretty good for mixing, but definitely
check with speakers whenever you're trying to mix with headphones. It's
never the same.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> I have tried electrostatics, and thought they were pretty good but thin for
> my tastes.. YMMV.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:49f67eb7$1@linux...
>> Thanks to everyone for your quick responses. I obviously have a lot to
>> think
>> about, more importantly to hopefully be able to check some of these out at
>> local stores. Would Guitar Center (45 minutes away) be a good source, or
>> might Best Buy (15 minutes drive) be just as good? (I would guess that
>> Best
>> Buy would carry more like "living room" types of consumer headphones,
>> right?)
>>
>> I really don't use headphones much-hence my needing advice to think about
>> getting a decent pair since mine are pretty old and crumbly around the
>> padding.
>> And the concept that a pair might be great for editing, but (what?) too
>> harsh or exhausting to also mix with seems ironic, to say the least. It
>> would
>> have seemed like good 'phones would have been good 'phones. Ha. Guess I
>> have
>> a lot to learn.
>>
>> If a pair were really superb for both functions, my budget might be able
>> to stretch a bit, so any more advice is still appreciated. :-)
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> Larry Hogan
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> MDR-7506's and V6's are too bright for critical listening. They're good
>> for
>>> editing because you hear EVERYTHING and I don't mind the low end, though.
>>> But if ever there were a pair of cans to NOT mix with, 7506's are them!
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run
>>>> about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck
>>>> mixing with them.
>>>> Wayne
>
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103293 is a reply to message #103261] Tue, 28 April 2009 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Riich S is currently offline  Riich S
Messages: 3
Registered: January 2009
Junior Member
HD280's or K240's - I have both, K240 I like better if isolation is not an
issue - the HD280's have pretty good isolation. Either one work for you.
"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Greetings, PARISians,
>
>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop. (Fairly
>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>
>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
and
>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my basement,
>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.) Anyway,
>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and running
>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
my
>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>
>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective) headphones?
>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local businesses
>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>Larry Hogan
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103297 is a reply to message #103293] Tue, 28 April 2009 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
john Macy[2] is currently offline  john Macy[2]
Messages: 24
Registered: June 2008
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Grados--my faves for years...George Massenburg says you gan hear the grass
grow in them....



"Rich S." <studiodog_99@xxahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>HD280's or K240's - I have both, K240 I like better if isolation is not
an
>issue - the HD280's have pretty good isolation. Either one work for you.
>"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Greetings, PARISians,
>>
>>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
(Fairly
>>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>
>>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
>and
>>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my basement,
>>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.) Anyway,
>>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and running
>>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do most
>>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
>my
>>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>
>>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective) headphones?
>>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
businesses
>>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully nothing
>>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>
>>Many thanks in advance,
>>Larry Hogan
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103336 is a reply to message #103297] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

Hey Don - Do you mind saying what your low-ball bid was?

Gantt

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>I have a pair of RS-1s and Mr. Massenburg is absolutely correct.
>
>In my journey to reach the holy grail of headphones I tried out AKG, Sony,

>Sennheiser and Beyer top end headphones (sorry, I forget which models) and
I
>would have gladly bought any one of them at the time for reference listening

>purposes but I jokingly put a lowball bid on these Grado's (on EBay) and

>damn if I didn't win them.
>
>Sometimes the cosmic comedian plays nice with you.
>
>Don
>
>
>
>"John Macy" <nospamjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:49f7a55d$1@linux...
>>
>> Grados--my faves for years...George Massenburg says you gan hear the grass
>> grow in them....
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rich S." <studiodog_99@xxahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>HD280's or K240's - I have both, K240 I like better if isolation is not
>> an
>>>issue - the HD280's have pretty good isolation. Either one work for

>>>you.
>>>"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Greetings, PARISians,
>>>>
>>>>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
>> (Fairly
>>>>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>>>
>>>>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
>>>and
>>>>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>>>>basement,
>>>>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)

>>>>Anyway,
>>>>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and

>>>>running
>>>>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>>>>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do
most
>>>>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
>>>my
>>>>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>>>
>>>>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>>>>headphones?
>>>>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
>> businesses
>>>>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully
>>>>nothing
>>>>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks in advance,
>>>>Larry Hogan
>>>
>>
>
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103337 is a reply to message #103336] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

Hmmm. I seem to have changed my name. TAKE THAT GOOGLE!

Find me now.

"Ganatt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Don - Do you mind saying what your low-ball bid was?
>
>Gantt
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103342 is a reply to message #103336] Thu, 30 April 2009 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dnafe is currently offline  dnafe   CANADA
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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$500 USD if I rememebr correctly...came in at a little under $750 CDN after
shipping and taxes...which was $400 below the best price I could find in
Canada at the time

Don

"Ganatt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:49f9a2e2$1@linux...
>
> Hey Don - Do you mind saying what your low-ball bid was?
>
> Gantt
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>I have a pair of RS-1s and Mr. Massenburg is absolutely correct.
>>
>>In my journey to reach the holy grail of headphones I tried out AKG, Sony,
>
>>Sennheiser and Beyer top end headphones (sorry, I forget which models) and
> I
>>would have gladly bought any one of them at the time for reference
>>listening
>
>>purposes but I jokingly put a lowball bid on these Grado's (on EBay) and
>
>>damn if I didn't win them.
>>
>>Sometimes the cosmic comedian plays nice with you.
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>"John Macy" <nospamjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>news:49f7a55d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Grados--my faves for years...George Massenburg says you gan hear the
>>> grass
>>> grow in them....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich S." <studiodog_99@xxahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>HD280's or K240's - I have both, K240 I like better if isolation is not
>>> an
>>>>issue - the HD280's have pretty good isolation. Either one work for
>
>>>>you.
>>>>"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Greetings, PARISians,
>>>>>
>>>>>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
>>> (Fairly
>>>>>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>>>>
>>>>>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
>>>>and
>>>>>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>>>>>basement,
>>>>>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
>
>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
>
>>>>>running
>>>>>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project
>>>>>started
>>>>>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do
> most
>>>>>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
>>>>my
>>>>>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>>>>>headphones?
>>>>>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
>>> businesses
>>>>>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully
>>>>>nothing
>>>>>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>>>>
>>>>>Many thanks in advance,
>>>>>Larry Hogan
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103343 is a reply to message #103342] Thu, 30 April 2009 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Some serious change there Don. I know I got the Sennheiser HD650s for
around $250 and am overjoyed with both their comfort and sound. Maybe
not the same level that you're getting though? I have some mid priced
Grados that are not comfortable and sound strident. The Senns I can mix on
confidently and do so bouncing between other monitors.


Tom



"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49fa1e68@linux...
> $500 USD if I rememebr correctly...came in at a little under $750 CDN
> after shipping and taxes...which was $400 below the best price I could
> find in Canada at the time
>
> Don
>
> "Ganatt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:49f9a2e2$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Don - Do you mind saying what your low-ball bid was?
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>I have a pair of RS-1s and Mr. Massenburg is absolutely correct.
>>>
>>>In my journey to reach the holy grail of headphones I tried out AKG,
>>>Sony,
>>
>>>Sennheiser and Beyer top end headphones (sorry, I forget which models)
>>>and
>> I
>>>would have gladly bought any one of them at the time for reference
>>>listening
>>
>>>purposes but I jokingly put a lowball bid on these Grado's (on EBay) and
>>
>>>damn if I didn't win them.
>>>
>>>Sometimes the cosmic comedian plays nice with you.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"John Macy" <nospamjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:49f7a55d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Grados--my faves for years...George Massenburg says you gan hear the
>>>> grass
>>>> grow in them....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich S." <studiodog_99@xxahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>HD280's or K240's - I have both, K240 I like better if isolation is not
>>>> an
>>>>>issue - the HD280's have pretty good isolation. Either one work for
>>
>>>>>you.
>>>>>"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Greetings, PARISians,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
>>>> (Fairly
>>>>>>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof
>>>>>>studio
>>>>>and
>>>>>>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>>>>>>basement,
>>>>>>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
>>
>>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>>>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
>>
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project
>>>>>>started
>>>>>>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do
>> most
>>>>>>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions
>>>>>>via
>>>>>my
>>>>>>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>>>>>>headphones?
>>>>>>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
>>>> businesses
>>>>>>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully
>>>>>>nothing
>>>>>>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Many thanks in advance,
>>>>>>Larry Hogan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103347 is a reply to message #103286] Fri, 01 May 2009 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarahtonin is currently offline  Sarahtonin   UNITED STATES
Messages: 16
Registered: April 2009
Location: United States
Junior Member
I just like 'em cuz they're comfy, and nice to listen to real loud. :) But
I never mix on headphones, either. I like 'em just for tracking and
diagnosing.

S

"Martin Harrington" <martin@lendanear-sound.com> wrote in message
news:C61CFBA1.972D%martin@lendanear-sound.com...
> That's because they have an extremely false bottom end.
> As a location recordist / mixer, I, and indeed most of the location
> industry
> use the Sony's, but mainly so we can hear the rumble of a boom mic on the
> end of a pole, or traffic / Aircon noise.
>
> Martin H
> Lend An Ear Sound
> On 28/04/09 7:30 AM, in article 49f629c1@linux, "Wayne Carson"
> <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I use Sony MDR-7506 and MDR-V6. They sound almost identical and each run
>> about $100 bucks. I like the way they sound but haven't had great luck
>> mixing with them.
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>> "Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:49f5fa71$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Greetings, PARISians,
>>>
>>> Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the loop.
>>> (Fairly
>>> frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>>
>>> Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof studio
>>> and
>>> control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>>> basement,
>>> but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
>>> Anyway,
>>> after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
>>> running
>>> again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project started
>>> a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do
>>> most
>>> mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions via
>>> my
>>> near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>>
>>> Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>>> headphones?
>>> (What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support local
>>> businesses
>>> and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully
>>> nothing
>>> too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>> Larry Hogan
>>
>>
>
>
>


God is asleep, and we are his nightmare
Re: Headphone Recommendations? [message #103356 is a reply to message #103343] Sat, 02 May 2009 14:48 Go to previous message
dnafe is currently offline  dnafe   CANADA
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
Senior Member
Those were the Sennheiser's I was looking at along with a pair of Sony, AKG
and Beyer...all outstanding headphones for the price...I just couldn't find
any (used) at the time.

Then I made the mistake of popping into a buddies place and got a chance to
check out his broken in set of Grado's RS-1s and I was sold on the sound. as
for comfort I'd give them an 7.5 - 8.0 out of 10

Don


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49fa266f@linux...
> Some serious change there Don. I know I got the Sennheiser HD650s for
> around $250 and am overjoyed with both their comfort and sound. Maybe
> not the same level that you're getting though? I have some mid priced
> Grados that are not comfortable and sound strident. The Senns I can mix
> on
> confidently and do so bouncing between other monitors.
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49fa1e68@linux...
>> $500 USD if I rememebr correctly...came in at a little under $750 CDN
>> after shipping and taxes...which was $400 below the best price I could
>> find in Canada at the time
>>
>> Don
>>
>> "Ganatt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:49f9a2e2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Don - Do you mind saying what your low-ball bid was?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>I have a pair of RS-1s and Mr. Massenburg is absolutely correct.
>>>>
>>>>In my journey to reach the holy grail of headphones I tried out AKG,
>>>>Sony,
>>>
>>>>Sennheiser and Beyer top end headphones (sorry, I forget which models)
>>>>and
>>> I
>>>>would have gladly bought any one of them at the time for reference
>>>>listening
>>>
>>>>purposes but I jokingly put a lowball bid on these Grado's (on EBay) and
>>>
>>>>damn if I didn't win them.
>>>>
>>>>Sometimes the cosmic comedian plays nice with you.
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Macy" <nospamjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:49f7a55d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Grados--my faves for years...George Massenburg says you gan hear the
>>>>> grass
>>>>> grow in them....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich S." <studiodog_99@xxahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HD280's or K240's - I have both, K240 I like better if isolation is
>>>>>>not
>>>>> an
>>>>>>issue - the HD280's have pretty good isolation. Either one work for
>>>
>>>>>>you.
>>>>>>"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Greetings, PARISians,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Still here after many a year but I've definitely been out of the
>>>>>>>loop.
>>>>> (Fairly
>>>>>>>frequent lurking, but too busy to contribute much. Sorry.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Two years ago, my wife and I moved. I had had a nice sound-proof
>>>>>>>studio
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>control room I had built back in the mid-90s, taking over 1/3 of my
>>>>>>>basement,
>>>>>>>but now I'll have to be rebuilding that. (My summer plan, hopefully.)
>>>
>>>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>>>>after ripping apart my studio and PARIS rig, I now need to get up and
>>>
>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>again in a temporary area in order to finally complete a project
>>>>>>>started
>>>>>>>a few years ago. My new home is such that I will probably need to do
>>> most
>>>>>>>mixing/editing via headphones (with occasional real-world auditions
>>>>>>>via
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>near fields, of course) until I rebuild the studio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any tips on some very good-to-great (yet hopefully cost effective)
>>>>>>>headphones?
>>>>>>>(What DO good phones go for?) I would like to be able to support
>>>>>>>local
>>>>> businesses
>>>>>>>and, of course, be able to audition the phones there, so hopefully
>>>>>>>nothing
>>>>>>>too esoteric. Can I get a really nice pair for, say, less than $200.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Many thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>Larry Hogan
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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