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Re: OT The platform wars are over... [message #99719 is a reply to message #99710]

Mon, 28 July 2008 13:06

TCB
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"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ah, the plight of the brutally oppressed Mac user.
>
>Well, in the case of the PC nazi dept. head, my wife got a termination
>letter hand delivered to her on New Years Eve. Rather than punching
>him in the nose, we filed a grievance. Both the dept. head
>and the provost who backed him were gone in 6 months when all the
>facts came out. It wasn't about platforms, it was about a very bad
>dept. head and the platform issue was a symptom, not a cause.
>
>
>
>I was working at a university
>>in the mid-90's when we gently suggested that, since there were very serious
>>questions as to whether Apple could continue as a going concern, it might
>>be a good idea for Mac-centric departments at least diversify their platform
>>choices.
>
>Reasonable advice. Zero chance of enforcing it on faculty as you
>discovered.

And had our concerns actually come to pass, i.e. Apple going out of business
which was a very real possibility back then, guess who the faculty would
have come whining to to bail them out? We were giving prudent advice that
SOME people ignored and the rest got a little lucky.

>
>>IT departments are charged with a different mission that home users. To
>this
>>day where I work I don't tell people what computers, operating systems,
>and
>>applications they can or can't use. It's not my job, or my place to tell
>>them that, what I CAN tell them is what I can promise them I will support.
>>I tell them that if they're running a laptop I set up with an operating
>system
>>I know if it breaks I'll fix it. If they want to use Mail on a OS X or
check
>>IRC using emacs on a minix machine, more power to them, but I can't say
>for
>>sure that I can fix things if they break.
>
>Fair enough. They have budgets and can pay for their own support.
>You do realize the implications, right?

As far as I can tell the implication is that I'm charged with giving world
class support to my users, which I do. In return they trust that I will make
good decisions for this organization about what can and can't be supported,
within reason. That means that on the OS level I advise people not to have
WORK machines that are Vista or OS X. Right now I have to be reasonably conversant
in Solaris 8/9/10, two flavors of linux (SuSE and Red Hat), and CISCO OS.
I also have to be fluent in Debian, Server 2k3, and Server 2000 and have
projects on hand that are forcing me to learn SQL Server 2005 (in addition
to the Oracle 9i db stuff we already have) plus at least basic C# and ASP.NET.
Since there only 24 hours in the day and I still like to sleep, eat, make
music, and get laid, I think I'd be doing a disservice to my users if I suddenly
decided to learn a new desktop platform.

Again, what are these implications you speak of?

TCB

>
>>But anyway, you're right, we're all out to 'ban' your Macs.
>
>Hmmm.
>
>DC
>

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		OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Sun, 27 July 2008 23:18
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: TCB on Mon, 28 July 2008 08:30
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 08:46
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: TCB on Mon, 28 July 2008 13:06
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Mon, 28 July 2008 13:28
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: TCB on Mon, 28 July 2008 15:01
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 15:29
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Mon, 28 July 2008 15:55
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Ed on Thu, 31 July 2008 10:45
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Thu, 31 July 2008 12:49
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Thu, 31 July 2008 16:16
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Fri, 01 August 2008 04:01
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Sarah on Fri, 01 August 2008 05:01
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Kim W on Fri, 01 August 2008 07:46
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: kerryg on Fri, 01 August 2008 09:19
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: TCB on Fri, 01 August 2008 14:17
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Fri, 01 August 2008 17:53
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Sarah on Sat, 02 August 2008 04:07
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Sat, 02 August 2008 05:34
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Sarah on Sat, 02 August 2008 19:48
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Fri, 01 August 2008 12:52
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Mon, 04 August 2008 00:04
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 04 August 2008 09:02
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:23
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: TCB on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:43
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:59
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 19:11
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Mon, 28 July 2008 09:19
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Mon, 28 July 2008 09:23
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: kerryg on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:39
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 14:55
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: kerryg on Mon, 28 July 2008 15:45
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 16:53
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Mon, 28 July 2008 16:25
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 16:55
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Tue, 29 July 2008 06:49
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Bill L on Mon, 28 July 2008 20:56
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Mon, 28 July 2008 21:47
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Sarah on Tue, 29 July 2008 11:55
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Tue, 29 July 2008 13:56
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Jamie K on Tue, 29 July 2008 14:47
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: kerryg on Tue, 29 July 2008 17:21
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: dc[3] on Tue, 29 July 2008 15:36
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Wed, 30 July 2008 04:45
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Wed, 30 July 2008 00:52
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Wed, 30 July 2008 04:45
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Wed, 30 July 2008 04:58
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: excelav on Wed, 30 July 2008 07:11
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Wed, 30 July 2008 07:36
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: Kim W on Wed, 30 July 2008 07:46
		Re: OT The platform wars are over... By: John [1] on Wed, 30 July 2008 08:39

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