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Re: In the meantime: PARIS to REAPER via OMF [message #102841 is a reply to message #102840] Mon, 16 March 2009 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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........if the code is only a small part of the sonic
> equation? OR... is the code a bigger part of the equation?
> Thing is, nobody really knows.

ID knows, but they aren't talking about it. We have our educated guesses
about that. The Native part of Ver 3 doesn't sound the same, sorry guys -
and I know some ppl that would argue it.. but it just doesn't handle audio
the same way... Unless they've found a way to faithfully mimic the hardware
buses (ala mackie cut/gain structures, for one) it's probably nothin
special - assuming they've kept coding the application. Knowing some things
EP has done/talked about in the past and his love of it, I expect something
has been kept in motio. Sonar, cubase, etc... will give it all a run and
probably kill it these days, if it's even the same app. By now it should be
fully native, and probably mac-centric though that means less and less as
time marches since everyone moved to Intel based hardware.

The magic of paris lived too much in the hardware DSP (summing, latency,
real time live plugs) IMHO. As much as I love my UAD the facts are that
hardware just acts different. They have it REAL close though, and the gains
are pretty incrementally small at this point, as well as the cost to amount
of usable inserts is insanely in favor of software.

It looks like they're abusing the word "soon" again.
http://www.intelligentdevices.com/index1.shtml
http://www.intelligentdevices.com/pro_audio.shtml
How long's that been up there to check back often?

Neil: You're right, it is their intellectual property to do with as they
please. I'm more saddened that they've stagnated the product than mad about
it. Without taking out a mortgage on my home I was able to afford a stellar
sounding audio DAW with a lot of tracks and use it for years. I can't be
angry about that, really. And, to the inside of things let's be honest about
it - they probably released ver 3 knowing the product was already dead in
retrospect of events. So far ahead of it's time, but that time has passed
them by for a variety of reasons.

What Kerry and crew are doing is great and really appreciated. It's
extending our useful life from Paris, and that's pretty sweet. The thought
of actually being able to put it in a quad core box in the future has me
pretty giddy. My thoughts are, personally.... I prefer putting my energies
there. It made sense to quit thinking about ID some time ago due to lack of
relevance to my needs.

AA


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:49bf123c@linux...
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>If we had the source for the paris application a few years
>>back (say 2003), we would be freaking light years ahead of
>>reaper or any other open source project.
>>
>>That sickens me.
>>
>>Tom
>
> 1.) It shouldn't... it's ID's intellectual property & they (meaning Edmund
> himself & SSC's estate, in whatever capacity
> they each own those rights) can elect to do with it
> whatever they wish, even if that includes burying it forever.
>
> 2.) On the other hand, why wouldn't they sell it if they don't
> plan on doing anything with it?
>
> 3.) If they WOULD consider selling it, what would they charge?
>
> 4.) Considering whatever amount they would want to charge, could
> there be any profit to be made from it?
>
> 5.) Hardware-related issues abound... what would it be worth
> at this point, if the code is only a small part of the sonic
> equation? OR... is the code a bigger part of the equation?
> Thing is, nobody really knows.
>
> Neil

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