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Dental Floss for your control room [message #66729] Fri, 14 April 2006 21:08 Go to next message
dc[4] is currently offline  dc[4]
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Man, we should all do this more often.

Got out the analyzer tonight, and a new laser distance meter I got
recently:

http://www.leica-geosystems.com/cpd/en/lgs_3849.htm

Accurate to a millimeter.

I put a target on a mic stand right where my ears are and found that
the speakers were not toed in right, and were not the same distance
from the target...

Then I got the FFT analyzer out and dang, the sub is going nuts.
Turns out the sub is about 5db hot...

Yipes!

Some roughs of the live project went out and everyone said they
were weak in the bass. There it is...

HEY DJ! Your mixes are NOT bass heavy! sorry

Checked you monitoring rig recently??

hmmm?

DC

no, you don't need a fancy laser to check this, a tape measure
works fine, and you can get audio analysis apps for cheap these
days. if you can't hear you can't mix!

Big mix session for the live record tomorrow. Wish me well!
Re: Dental Floss for your control room [message #66741 is a reply to message #66729] Fri, 14 April 2006 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Heheheh!!!!!! Well, that's good to know because I'm getting ready to jump
back in and finish it up. My new mobo just came in and the studio is up and
running again. Looks like the one I was using previously (a refurb that I
got from NewEgg becqause there were no new ones available) was defective.
The new one is a bit snappier and feels more stable than the other one ever
was. Anyway, as for the bass, I did reposition the subs about 1' apart
almost centered on my sweet spot. The previous positioning was partially
phase cancelling. the LF is very obvious now and translates very well. I've
got the system wired in to a stereo downstairs that is driving a pair of ADS
1520's in our rehearsal/drum tracking room. Those puppies will definitely
give you ......if not a reality check, then at least a *consumer hifi in the
living room* check.

I do need to get my distances measured a bit more precisely though. Seems
like over the last 2 1/2 years, things have grown legs or something.

;o)
"DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote in message news:444071ad$1@linux...
>
> Man, we should all do this more often.
>
> Got out the analyzer tonight, and a new laser distance meter I got
> recently:
>
> http://www.leica-geosystems.com/cpd/en/lgs_3849.htm
>
> Accurate to a millimeter.
>
> I put a target on a mic stand right where my ears are and found that
> the speakers were not toed in right, and were not the same distance
> from the target...
>
> Then I got the FFT analyzer out and dang, the sub is going nuts.
> Turns out the sub is about 5db hot...
>
> Yipes!
>
> Some roughs of the live project went out and everyone said they
> were weak in the bass. There it is...
>
> HEY DJ! Your mixes are NOT bass heavy! sorry
>
> Checked you monitoring rig recently??
>
> hmmm?
>
> DC
>
> no, you don't need a fancy laser to check this, a tape measure
> works fine, and you can get audio analysis apps for cheap these
> days. if you can't hear you can't mix!
>
> Big mix session for the live record tomorrow. Wish me well!
Re: Dental Floss for your control room [message #66748 is a reply to message #66729] Sat, 15 April 2006 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
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What is the current state of affairs in analyzer Big D? I'm getting ready to
shoot my new room now that I have Paris back up.
AA


"DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote in message news:444071ad$1@linux...
>
> Man, we should all do this more often.
>
> Got out the analyzer tonight, and a new laser distance meter I got
> recently:
>
> http://www.leica-geosystems.com/cpd/en/lgs_3849.htm
>
> Accurate to a millimeter.
>
> I put a target on a mic stand right where my ears are and found that
> the speakers were not toed in right, and were not the same distance
> from the target...
>
> Then I got the FFT analyzer out and dang, the sub is going nuts.
> Turns out the sub is about 5db hot...
>
> Yipes!
>
> Some roughs of the live project went out and everyone said they
> were weak in the bass. There it is...
>
> HEY DJ! Your mixes are NOT bass heavy! sorry
>
> Checked you monitoring rig recently??
>
> hmmm?
>
> DC
>
> no, you don't need a fancy laser to check this, a tape measure
> works fine, and you can get audio analysis apps for cheap these
> days. if you can't hear you can't mix!
>
> Big mix session for the live record tomorrow. Wish me well!


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Re: Dental Floss for your control room [message #66756 is a reply to message #66748] Sat, 15 April 2006 00:44 Go to previous message
dc[4] is currently offline  dc[4]
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Registered: September 2005
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"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>What is the current state of affairs in analyzer Big D? I'm getting ready
to
>shoot my new room now that I have Paris back up.
>AA

I want Smaartlive, but I always do spend too much. Right now I
use the contractor Audio Toolbox on FFT into a Mac laptop so I can
get a big bright display that I can see across the room. Terrasonde
got bought by Sencore and I don't know much about their present
gear. I would stay away from hardware and buy an analysis app.

MLSSA is good too, but the PC guys say there are better/cheaper
apps. I can't remember at the moment.

Suggestions anyone?

DC
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