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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68681 is a reply to message #68677] |
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Aaron Allen
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I would like to hear more Dimitrios .... do they play in XP, share IRQ's
happily, what is the support route, newsgroups, resources, etc...
What kind of latency does the card exhibit using the adat from paris and
back?
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:44788b63$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
> Hold your breath
> SSL9000
> Neve1084
> Pultec
> API 550
> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
> do to your mixes.
> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>
> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
> Still with me ?
>
> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get
> them
> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>
> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
> come true for me...
>
> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>
> Tons of free ones.
>
> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
> are "oblidged" to take this route.
> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main
> plugins
> cost used around 400-500-600 $
> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a
> spdif
> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>
> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice
> Paris
> eq...
>
> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs
> two
> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>
> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ
> wants
> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already
> bought)
> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>
> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
> Ok back to reality...
>
> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
> great plugins as I mentioned.
> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>
> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68693 is a reply to message #68677] |
Sat, 27 May 2006 11:40 |
Tom Bruhl
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Dimitrios,
Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores etc.) =
which will
probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi in/out.
OR
Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same box
and eliminate the RME card?
If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
Cubase (internally)
and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =20
Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths =
to Paris also?
Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's softsynths =
and return everything to
Paris? =20
Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =
right? Close to the same=20
for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins and =
softsynths up
directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to =
Cubase right?
One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =20
How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
(like DJs w/RME)?
What do you use for sequencing?
Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as large =
as Steinberg or RME?
I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
Devices in R&D.
He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
program. I'd prefer
Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
Pulsars' hardware
looks tough to beat for the cost.=20
I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market for =
Pulsar hardware.
Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for your =
response.
Tom=20
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:44788b63$1@linux...
Hi,
Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of =
a
PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
Hold your breath=20
SSL9000
Neve1084
Pultec
API 550
RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it =
can
do to your mixes.
Only pros could have access to beats like these !
Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
Still with me ?
wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with =
get them
all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are =
dream
come true for me...
Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
Tons of free ones.
I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat =
in/outs
are "oblidged" to take this route.
Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main =
plugins
cost used around 400-500-600 $
So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus =
a spdif
in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
$-1100$
you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice =
Paris
eq...
Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two =
mecs two
adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ =
wants
(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
already bought)
which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 =
dsp
chips !!! and be happy as I am...
well there is the "Kingsize" option.
there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips =
!!!
In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =
900$-1000-1100$
used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
Ok back to reality...
One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
some
great plugins as I mentioned.
The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
Regards,
Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =
I have a=20
few questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a =
killer Cubase=20
rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
channels of=20
ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; &nbs p; &nbs p=
;   ;   ;=
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OR</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a =
Pulsar Pro=20
card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and eliminate the RME =
card?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so will this buy me the software =
power to run=20
Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in =
sync? =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Process Paris tracks with plugins in =
realtime while=20
sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
to it's fullest=20
including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar =
softsynths and 0=20
for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for Cubase and it's third party=20
softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers =
or can I=20
call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
to use=20
Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One Pro card would allow about how many =
voices of=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or =
three nice=20
comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this =
proposed=20
system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you use for =
sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
around for a=20
while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =
RME?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A close friend of mine is employed here =
in=20
Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He speaks very highly of the Sharc=20
chips.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can probably tell I don't want to =
learn another=20
mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =
a UAD-1=20
card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looks tough to beat for the=20
cost. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm seriously interested and also =
wondering about=20
the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying =
very close=20
attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A=20
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href=3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi,<=
BR>Pulsar=20
as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the =
best synths=20
around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=20
ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for these=20
beasts.<BR>Hold your breath <BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=20
550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering dynamic =
EQ that=20
hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could =
have=20
access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=20
eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =
?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=20
THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine =
something=20
around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all like =
500 $=20
or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
plugins out=20
there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =
me...<BR><BR>Note=20
that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of free =
ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users =
with=20
adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are =
already=20
there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost used =
around=20
400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat =
ins and=20
outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus =
two (32)=20
midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and =
for=20
around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =
fantastic=20
sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will =
stop=20
using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least one =
mec and=20
one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two adat =
cards=20
under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =
ins/outs to=20
your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar =
cards=20
(your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $ to =
have=20
full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=20
am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are also =
super=20
Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are the =
same,=20
each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with =
three=20
cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to reality...<BR><BR>One =
Pulsar=20
card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some<BR>great =
plugins=20
as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =
recording=20
platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I see anyone=20
interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68695 is a reply to message #68693] |
Sat, 27 May 2006 11:53 |
Deej [1]
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If I didn't have so much time, money and learning curve invested in my =
current rig, and if I didn't have a bunch of ongoing stuff involved with =
the DAW routing matrix that I have now and the hours it took me to get =
my head around these templates as relate to RME hardware, I'd be all =
over the Pulsar situation as we speak..............if, and only if, I =
was absolutely 100% sure it would slave to ADAT sync from Paris so that =
the timelines would sync sample accurately. From the discussions I've =
had with Dimitrios about this, I believe that all of this sync stuff is =
good to go between Paris and the Pulsar.
You could still run delay compensated UAD-1 plugins at 1.5ms in Cubase =
SX with this, plus you would have the benefit of a DSP based native =
system and all of the goodies that Dimitrios is describing. My next DAW =
may just be one of these Creamware based systems. I'd have to buy the =
components and build it and burn it in before porting everything over to =
it though because I've gotta keep my current system up and ruinning =
until the last possible minute before transferring my Cubase dongle to =
the new rig and going through the PITA or transferring all of muy NI =
licenses (this is a HUGE PITA actually). If I liked the Pulsar sertup, =
I would then sell off my RME cards. That's about the only way I could =
justify doing this right now so it's not gonna happen for a while. In =
the meantime, you guys can make me jealous with your new fast shiny =
Pulsar DAWs and become experts on routing with the Pulsar mixer =
interfacing with Paris ADAT.
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44789bfc@linux...
Dimitrios,
Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores =
etc.) which will
probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi in/out.
OR
Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same box
and eliminate the RME card?
If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
Cubase (internally)
and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =20
Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths =
to Paris also?
Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's =
softsynths and return everything to
Paris? =20
Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =
right? Close to the same=20
for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins and =
softsynths up
directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to =
Cubase right?
One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =20
How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
(like DJs w/RME)?
What do you use for sequencing?
Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as =
large as Steinberg or RME?
I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
Devices in R&D.
He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
program. I'd prefer
Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
Pulsars' hardware
looks tough to beat for the cost.=20
I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market for =
Pulsar hardware.
Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for your =
response.
Tom=20
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:44788b63$1@linux...
Hi,
Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell =
of a
PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
Hold your breath=20
SSL9000
Neve1084
Pultec
API 550
RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it =
can
do to your mixes.
Only pros could have access to beats like these !
Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
Still with me ?
wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with =
get them
all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are =
dream
come true for me...
Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
Tons of free ones.
I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat =
in/outs
are "oblidged" to take this route.
Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main =
plugins
cost used around 400-500-600 $
So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs =
plus a spdif
in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi =
ins/outs
Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
$-1100$
you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the =
nice Paris
eq...
Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two =
mecs two
adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like =
DJ wants
(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
already bought)
which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with =
18 dsp
chips !!! and be happy as I am...
well there is the "Kingsize" option.
there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips =
!!!
In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =
900$-1000-1100$
used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
Ok back to reality...
One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
some
great plugins as I mentioned.
The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
Regards,
Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I didn't have so much time, money =
and learning=20
curve invested in my current rig, and if I didn't have a bunch of =
ongoing stuff=20
involved with the DAW routing matrix that I have now and the hours it =
took me to=20
get my head around these templates as relate to RME hardware, I'd be all =
over=20
the Pulsar situation as we speak..............if, and only if, I was =
absolutely=20
100% sure it would slave to ADAT sync from Paris so that the timelines =
would=20
sync sample accurately. From the discussions I've had with Dimitrios =
about this,=20
I believe that all of this sync stuff is good to go between Paris and =
the=20
Pulsar.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You could still run delay compensated =
UAD-1 plugins=20
at 1.5ms in Cubase SX with this, plus you would have the benefit of a =
DSP based=20
native system and all of the goodies that Dimitrios is describing. My =
next DAW=20
may just be one of these Creamware based systems. I'd have to buy the =
components=20
and build it and burn it in before porting everything over to it though =
because=20
I've gotta keep my current system up and ruinning until the last =
possible minute=20
before transferring my Cubase dongle to the new rig and going through =
the PITA=20
or transferring all of muy NI licenses (this is a HUGE PITA actually). =
If I=20
liked the Pulsar sertup, I would then sell off my RME =
cards<FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>. That's about the only way I could =
justify doing=20
this right now so it's not gonna happen for a while. In the meantime, =
you guys=20
can make me jealous with your new fast shiny Pulsar DAWs and become =
experts on=20
routing with the Pulsar mixer interfacing with Paris =
ADAT.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:44789bfc@linux">news:44789bfc@linux</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scope pro looks quite =
impressive! I have a=20
few questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a =
killer Cubase=20
rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
channels of=20
ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; &nbs p; &nbs p=
;   ;   ;=
=20
OR</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with =
a Pulsar Pro=20
card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and eliminate the RME =
card?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so will this buy me the software =
power to run=20
Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in =
sync? =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Process Paris tracks with plugins in =
realtime=20
while sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
to it's=20
fullest including it's softsynths and return everything =
to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar =
softsynths and=20
0 for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for Cubase and it's third party=20
softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar software =
mixers or can I=20
call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably =
have to use=20
Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One Pro card would allow about how =
many voices of=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or =
three nice=20
comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this =
proposed=20
system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you use for =
sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
around for a=20
while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =
RME?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A close friend of mine is employed =
here in=20
Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He speaks very highly of the Sharc=20
chips.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can probably tell I don't want to =
learn=20
another mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =
a UAD-1=20
card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looks tough to beat for the=20
cost. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm seriously interested and also =
wondering about=20
the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be =
paying very=20
close attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi,<=
BR>Pulsar=20
as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the =
best=20
synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=20
ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for these=20
beasts.<BR>Hold your breath <BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API =
550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering =
dynamic EQ=20
that hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros =
could=20
have access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=20
eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =
?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=20
THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine =
something=20
around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all =
like 500 $=20
or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
plugins out=20
there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for=20
me...<BR><BR>Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp=20
emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of free ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so =
loud so=20
many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to =
take this=20
route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps =
and all=20
main plugins<BR>cost used around 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal =
classic=20
option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out =
plus 2=20
analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now =
consider the=20
above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will =
have a=20
tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.<BR>If you here =
their=20
pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice=20
Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least one mec and one =
adat card=20
or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under =
Me=20
(win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to =
your=20
system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar =
cards (your=20
plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $ to have =
full=20
three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=20
am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are also =
super=20
Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are =
the same,=20
each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with =
three=20
cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to =
reality...<BR><BR>One=20
Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using=20
some<BR>great plugins as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be =
configured for=20
a synth recording platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I =
see anyone=20
interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68697 is a reply to message #68677] |
Sat, 27 May 2006 12:51 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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I did a review of the Creamware hardware synth thing, I forget the name. The
synths were quite simply superb. Their Prophet emulation was outlandishly
good, and I have a Prophet-10 to use as comparison. John Bowen (who was a
huge part of the entire Sequential line, from the Prophet-5 to the VS, and
then the wavestation line at Korg) also develops synths for the Pulsar.
Effects were also very good. I'd still be concerned about the stability of
the company, driver updates for 64 bit operating systems, and so on. Also,
there are the inherent limitations of all dedicated DSP sytems. But in terms
of sonic qaulity I think Creamware is up there with the best.
TCB
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
>Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
>PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
>Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
>Hold your breath
>SSL9000
>Neve1084
>Pultec
>API 550
>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
>and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
>do to your mixes.
>Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>
>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
>Still with me ?
>
>wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
>Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get
them
>all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>
>I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
>come true for me...
>
>Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>
>Tons of free ones.
>
>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
>are "oblidged" to take this route.
>Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins
>cost used around 400-500-600 $
>So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a
spdif
>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>
>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
>you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice Paris
>eq...
>
>Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs
two
>adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>
>Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ wants
>(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already
bought)
>which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
>chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>
>well there is the "Kingsize" option.
>there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
>In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
>used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
>Ok back to reality...
>
>One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
>great plugins as I mentioned.
>The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>
>I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68700 is a reply to message #68697] |
Sat, 27 May 2006 14:23 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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A Prophet 10? I'm jealous. :-)
Regards,
Dedric
On 5/27/06 1:51 PM, in article 4478adbc$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:
>
> I did a review of the Creamware hardware synth thing, I forget the name. The
> synths were quite simply superb. Their Prophet emulation was outlandishly
> good, and I have a Prophet-10 to use as comparison. John Bowen (who was a
> huge part of the entire Sequential line, from the Prophet-5 to the VS, and
> then the wavestation line at Korg) also develops synths for the Pulsar.
> Effects were also very good. I'd still be concerned about the stability of
> the company, driver updates for 64 bit operating systems, and so on. Also,
> there are the inherent limitations of all dedicated DSP sytems. But in terms
> of sonic qaulity I think Creamware is up there with the best.
>
> TCB
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
>> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
>> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
>> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
>> Hold your breath
>> SSL9000
>> Neve1084
>> Pultec
>> API 550
>> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
>> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
>> do to your mixes.
>> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>>
>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
>> Still with me ?
>>
>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get
> them
>> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>>
>> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
>> come true for me...
>>
>> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>>
>> Tons of free ones.
>>
>> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
>> are "oblidged" to take this route.
>> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins
>> cost used around 400-500-600 $
>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a
> spdif
>> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>>
>> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
>> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
>> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice Paris
>> eq...
>>
>> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs
> two
>> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>>
>> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ wants
>> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already
> bought)
>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
>> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>>
>> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
>> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
>> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
>> Ok back to reality...
>>
>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
>> great plugins as I mentioned.
>> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>>
>> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68701 is a reply to message #68700] |
Sat, 27 May 2006 17:42 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Then you will REALLY HATE one of my customers!!! :-p
http://www.audities.org/
David.
Dedric Terry wrote:
> A Prophet 10? I'm jealous. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 5/27/06 1:51 PM, in article 4478adbc$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I did a review of the Creamware hardware synth thing, I forget the name. The
>>synths were quite simply superb. Their Prophet emulation was outlandishly
>>good, and I have a Prophet-10 to use as comparison. John Bowen (who was a
>>huge part of the entire Sequential line, from the Prophet-5 to the VS, and
>>then the wavestation line at Korg) also develops synths for the Pulsar.
>>Effects were also very good. I'd still be concerned about the stability of
>>the company, driver updates for 64 bit operating systems, and so on. Also,
>>there are the inherent limitations of all dedicated DSP sytems. But in terms
>>of sonic qaulity I think Creamware is up there with the best.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
>>>Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
>>>PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
>>>Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
>>>Hold your breath
>>>SSL9000
>>>Neve1084
>>>Pultec
>>>API 550
>>>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
>>>and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
>>>do to your mixes.
>>>Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>>>
>>>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
>>>Still with me ?
>>>
>>>wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
>>>Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get
>>
>>them
>>
>>>all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>>>
>>>I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
>>>come true for me...
>>>
>>>Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>>>
>>>Tons of free ones.
>>>
>>>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
>>>are "oblidged" to take this route.
>>>Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins
>>>cost used around 400-500-600 $
>>>So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a
>>
>>spdif
>>
>>>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>>>
>>>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
>>>you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
>>>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice Paris
>>>eq...
>>>
>>>Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs
>>
>>two
>>
>>>adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>>>
>>>Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ wants
>>>(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already
>>
>>bought)
>>
>>>which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
>>>chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>>>
>>>well there is the "Kingsize" option.
>>>there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
>>>In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
>>>used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
>>>Ok back to reality...
>>>
>>>One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
>>>great plugins as I mentioned.
>>>The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>>>
>>>I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68704 is a reply to message #68701] |
Sat, 27 May 2006 19:23 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Whoa - the collections page reads more like a vintage gear distributorship.
I had a time just thinking of what might be missing...
Thanks for that. Now I can be even more dismayed at my studio's complete
lack of gearological significance. If only I had kept all of those synths I
sold to buy the next new thing...
Somehow I don't think we'll be looking at softsynth emulations the same way
in 30 years.
Dedric
On 5/27/06 6:42 PM, in article 4478f141$1@linux, "EK Sound"
<askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> Then you will REALLY HATE one of my customers!!! :-p
>
> http://www.audities.org/
>
> David.
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>
>> A Prophet 10? I'm jealous. :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 5/27/06 1:51 PM, in article 4478adbc$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I did a review of the Creamware hardware synth thing, I forget the name. The
>>> synths were quite simply superb. Their Prophet emulation was outlandishly
>>> good, and I have a Prophet-10 to use as comparison. John Bowen (who was a
>>> huge part of the entire Sequential line, from the Prophet-5 to the VS, and
>>> then the wavestation line at Korg) also develops synths for the Pulsar.
>>> Effects were also very good. I'd still be concerned about the stability of
>>> the company, driver updates for 64 bit operating systems, and so on. Also,
>>> there are the inherent limitations of all dedicated DSP sytems. But in terms
>>> of sonic qaulity I think Creamware is up there with the best.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
>>>> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
>>>> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
>>>> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
>>>> Hold your breath
>>>> SSL9000
>>>> Neve1084
>>>> Pultec
>>>> API 550
>>>> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
>>>> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
>>>> do to your mixes.
>>>> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>>>>
>>>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
>>>> Still with me ?
>>>>
>>>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
>>>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get
>>>
>>> them
>>>
>>>> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
>>>> come true for me...
>>>>
>>>> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>>>>
>>>> Tons of free ones.
>>>>
>>>> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
>>>> are "oblidged" to take this route.
>>>> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main
>>>> plugins
>>>> cost used around 400-500-600 $
>>>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a
>>>
>>> spdif
>>>
>>>> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>>>>
>>>> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
>>>> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
>>>> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice Paris
>>>> eq...
>>>>
>>>> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs
>>>
>>> two
>>>
>>>> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>>>>
>>>> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ
>>>> wants
>>>> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already
>>>
>>> bought)
>>>
>>>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
>>>> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>>>>
>>>> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
>>>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
>>>> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
>>>> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
>>>> Ok back to reality...
>>>>
>>>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
>>>> great plugins as I mentioned.
>>>> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68715 is a reply to message #68693] |
Sun, 28 May 2006 04:11 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
|
Senior Member |
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|
Dear Parisians...
I will try to answer as much as I can...
First of course there is full support under XP win98/Me etc...
Latency with asio drivers is as low as 1.5 ms so Cubase SX or other app can
run along Pulsar.
I use Cubase to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices inside
Pulsar , you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices inside
pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like Sony Oxford, use mixer's
inserts to use dsp plugins and then route to Paris.
Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 sample going in 4 samples
the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from adat pulsar out to adat Paris
in.
so 19 samples for normal pulsar routing from Paris and back again to Paris.
Some plugins like SPL Transient designer (yes SPL has made the algorithm
for Pulsar !!, it rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one and
they sound about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.
What I normally do is when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I use some
fixed pluigins like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer and
then a small free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a total
of 80 samples !!
yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE pARIS 1 ms back.
Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 samples does need any
nudging...
Regarding ADAT sync YES there is a addon card that gets wordclock in out
and adat sync.
I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for your rig to use SX native plugins
routing back and forth from/to Paris.
Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior to RME cards.
The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from anything out there, and
the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE !!
You will be addicted and you would not won't go back...
There is continuing support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along with
asio drivers and you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers !!
These new plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.
I am in love with these new babies along with the older ones already there.
There are many develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins have
been ported to Pulsar too !!
You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! TimeworksX compressor and many otehr
from them for Pulsar.
So here is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:
You already Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right ?
you get Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs one
spdif in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack that has
Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) Mastereverb Pro and
other great plugins as standard.
If you use ADAT sync you get the sync addon card.
The you are st to begin your great adventure.
The benefits are tremendous , you will have these great dsp plugins/routing
plus Cubase SX native routing from Paris to Pulsar to SX back to Pulsar and
back again to Paris.
Isn't that a great trip ?
regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
>I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores etc.)
=
>which will
>probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi in/out.
>
> OR
>
>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same box
>and eliminate the RME card?
>
>If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
>Cubase (internally)
>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =20
>
>Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths =
>to Paris also?
>
>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's softsynths
=
>and return everything to
>Paris? =20
>
>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =
>right? Close to the same=20
>for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
>
>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins and =
>softsynths up
>directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to =
>Cubase right?
>
>One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =20
>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
>
>Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
>(like DJs w/RME)?
>
>What do you use for sequencing?
>
>Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as large
=
>as Steinberg or RME?
>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
>
>
>A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
>Devices in R&D.
>He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
>
>You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
>program. I'd prefer
>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
>Pulsars' hardware
>looks tough to beat for the cost.=20
>
>I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market for =
>Pulsar hardware.
>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for your =
>response.
>Tom=20
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:44788b63$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of
=
>a
> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
> Hold your breath=20
> SSL9000
> Neve1084
> Pultec
> API 550
> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it =
>can
> do to your mixes.
> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>
> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
> Still with me ?
>
> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with =
>get them
> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>
> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are =
>dream
> come true for me...
>
> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>
> Tons of free ones.
>
> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat =
>in/outs
> are "oblidged" to take this route.
> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main =
>plugins
> cost used around 400-500-600 $
> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus
=
>a spdif
> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>
> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
>$-1100$
> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice
=
>Paris
> eq...
>
> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two =
>mecs two
> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>
> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ
=
>wants
> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
>already bought)
> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18
=
>dsp
> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>
> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips =
>!!!
> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =
>900$-1000-1100$
> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
> Ok back to reality...
>
> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
>some
> great plugins as I mentioned.
> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>
> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =
>I have a=20
>few questions.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a =
>killer Cubase=20
>rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
>channels of=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2> &nbs=
>p; =
>; =
> =20
>OR</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a
=
>Pulsar Pro=20
>card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and eliminate the RME =
>card?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so will this buy me the software =
>power to run=20
>Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in =
>sync? =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Process Paris tracks with plugins in =
>realtime while=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
>to it's fullest=20
>including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar =
>softsynths and 0=20
>for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for Cubase and it's third party=20
>softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers
=
>or can I=20
>call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
>to use=20
>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One Pro card would allow about how many
=
>voices of=20
></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or =
>three nice=20
>comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this =
>proposed=20
>system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you use for =
>sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
>around for a=20
>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =
>RME?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
>here.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A close friend of mine is employed here
=
>in=20
>Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He speaks very highly of the Sharc=20
>chips.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can probably tell I don't want to =
>learn another=20
>mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =
>a UAD-1=20
>card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looks tough to beat for the=20
>cost. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm seriously interested and also =
>wondering about=20
>the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying
=
>very close=20
>attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi,<=
>BR>Pulsar=20
> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the =
>best synths=20
> around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=20
> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for these=20
> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath <BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=20
> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering dynamic
=
>EQ that=20
> hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could =
>have=20
> access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=20
> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =
>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=20
> THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine =
>something=20
> around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all like
=
>500 $=20
> or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
>plugins out=20
> there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =
>me...<BR><BR>Note=20
> that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of free
=
>
> ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users
=
>with=20
> adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are =
>already=20
> there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost used
=
>around=20
> 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat =
>ins and=20
> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus =
>two (32)=20
> midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and
=
>for=20
> around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =
>fantastic=20
> sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will
=
>stop=20
> using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least one
=
>mec and=20
> one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two adat
=
>cards=20
> under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =
>ins/outs to=20
> your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar =
>cards=20
> (your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $ to
=
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> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are also =
>super=20
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=
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=
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> as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68722 is a reply to message #68715] |
Sun, 28 May 2006 09:20 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
|
Senior Member |
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Also, for those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a 'VST mode'
where the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST plug-ins.
In this case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app and
the f/x and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. That's
what has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths running
in Live.
TCB
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Parisians...
>I will try to answer as much as I can...
>
>First of course there is full support under XP win98/Me etc...
>
>Latency with asio drivers is as low as 1.5 ms so Cubase SX or other app
can
>run along Pulsar.
>I use Cubase to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices inside
>Pulsar , you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices inside
>pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like Sony Oxford, use
mixer's
>inserts to use dsp plugins and then route to Paris.
>
>Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 sample going in 4 samples
>the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from adat pulsar out to adat Paris
>in.
>so 19 samples for normal pulsar routing from Paris and back again to Paris.
>Some plugins like SPL Transient designer (yes SPL has made the algorithm
>for Pulsar !!, it rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one and
>they sound about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.
>What I normally do is when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I use some
>fixed pluigins like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer and
>then a small free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a total
>of 80 samples !!
>yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE pARIS 1 ms back.
>Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 samples does need any
>nudging...
>
>Regarding ADAT sync YES there is a addon card that gets wordclock in out
>and adat sync.
>
>
>I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for your rig to use SX native plugins
>routing back and forth from/to Paris.
>Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior to RME cards.
>The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from anything out there,
and
>the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE !!
>You will be addicted and you would not won't go back...
>There is continuing support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along with
>asio drivers and you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers !!
>
>These new plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.
>I am in love with these new babies along with the older ones already there.
>There are many develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins have
>been ported to Pulsar too !!
>You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! TimeworksX compressor and many otehr
>from them for Pulsar.
>
>So here is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:
>
>You already Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right ?
>you get Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs one
>spdif in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack that has
>Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) Mastereverb Pro and
>other great plugins as standard.
>
>If you use ADAT sync you get the sync addon card.
>
>The you are st to begin your great adventure.
>The benefits are tremendous , you will have these great dsp plugins/routing
>plus Cubase SX native routing from Paris to Pulsar to SX back to Pulsar
and
>back again to Paris.
>Isn't that a great trip ?
>regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
>>I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores etc.)
>=
>>which will
>>probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi in/out.
>>
>> OR
>>
>>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same box
>>and eliminate the RME card?
>>
>>If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
>>Cubase (internally)
>>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =20
>>
>>Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths
=
>>to Paris also?
>>
>>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's softsynths
>=
>>and return everything to
>>Paris? =20
>>
>>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =
>>right? Close to the same=20
>>for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
>>
>>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins and
=
>>softsynths up
>>directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to =
>>Cubase right?
>>
>>One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =20
>>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
>>
>>Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
>>(like DJs w/RME)?
>>
>>What do you use for sequencing?
>>
>>Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as large
>=
>>as Steinberg or RME?
>>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
>>
>>
>>A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
>>Devices in R&D.
>>He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
>>
>>You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
>>program. I'd prefer
>>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
>>Pulsars' hardware
>>looks tough to beat for the cost.=20
>>
>>I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market for =
>>Pulsar hardware.
>>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for your =
>>response.
>>Tom=20
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>>news:44788b63$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
>> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of
>=
>>a
>> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
>> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
>> Hold your breath=20
>> SSL9000
>> Neve1084
>> Pultec
>> API 550
>> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
>> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it
=
>>can
>> do to your mixes.
>> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>>
>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
>> Still with me ?
>>
>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with =
>>get them
>> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>>
>> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are =
>>dream
>> come true for me...
>>
>> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>>
>> Tons of free ones.
>>
>> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat =
>>in/outs
>> are "oblidged" to take this route.
>> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main
=
>>plugins
>> cost used around 400-500-600 $
>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus
>=
>>a spdif
>> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>>
>> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
>>$-1100$
>> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
>> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice
>=
>>Paris
>> eq...
>>
>> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two =
>>mecs two
>> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>>
>> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ
>=
>>wants
>> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
>>already bought)
>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18
>=
>>dsp
>> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>>
>> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips
=
>>!!!
>> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =
>>900$-1000-1100$
>> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
>> Ok back to reality...
>>
>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
>>some
>> great plugins as I mentioned.
>> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>>
>> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =
>>I have a=20
>>few questions.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a =
>>killer Cubase=20
>>rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
>>channels of=20
>>ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2> &nbs=
>>p; =
>>; =
>> =20
>>OR</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a
>=
>>Pulsar Pro=20
>>card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and eliminate the RME =
>>card?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so will this buy me the software =
>>power to run=20
>>Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in
=
>>sync? =20
>></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Process Paris tracks with plugins in =
>>realtime while=20
>>sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
>>to it's fullest=20
>>including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar =
>>softsynths and 0=20
>>for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for Cubase and it's third party=20
>>softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers
>=
>>or can I=20
>>call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
>>to use=20
>>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One Pro card would allow about how many
>=
>>voices of=20
>></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or
=
>>three nice=20
>>comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this =
>>proposed=20
>>system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you use for =
>>sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
>>around for a=20
>>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =
>>RME?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
>>here.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A close friend of mine is employed here
>=
>>in=20
>>Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He speaks very highly of the Sharc=20
>>chips.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can probably tell I don't want to
=
>>learn another=20
>>mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =
>>a UAD-1=20
>>card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looks tough to beat for the=20
>>cost. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm seriously interested and also =
>>wondering about=20
>>the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying
>=
>>very close=20
>>attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>>message=20
>> <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi,<=
>>BR>Pulsar=20
>> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the =
>>best synths=20
>> around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=20
>> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for these=20
>> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath <BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=20
>> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering dynamic
>=
>>EQ that=20
>> hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could =
>>have=20
>> access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=20
>> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =
>>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=20
>> THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine =
>>something=20
>> around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all like
>=
>>500 $=20
>> or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
>>plugins out=20
>> there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =
>>me...<BR><BR>Note=20
>> that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of free
>=
>>
>> ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users
>=
>>with=20
>> adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are =
>>already=20
>> there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost used
>=
>>around=20
>> 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat
=
>>ins and=20
>> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus =
>>two (32)=20
>> midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and
>=
>>for=20
>> around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =
>>fantastic=20
>> sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will
>=
>>stop=20
>> using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least one
>=
>>mec and=20
>> one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two adat
>=
>>cards=20
>> under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =
>>ins/outs to=20
>> your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar
=
>>cards=20
>> (your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $ to
>=
>>have=20
>> full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=20
>> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are also =
>>super=20
>> Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are the
>=
>>same,=20
>> each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with =
>>three=20
>> cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to reality...<BR><BR>One
>=
>>Pulsar=20
>> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some<BR>great
>=
>>plugins=20
>> as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =
>>recording=20
>> platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I see anyone=20
>> interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
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>>and=20
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Thad,
That sounds like a routing mechanism that is easier to deal with to me. =
So you
think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted from the Paris-Cubase Loop using =
'VST mode'?
Insert the Pulsar softsynths/plugins as VSTs in Cubase? Will Pulsar =
still be doing the
number crunching onboard? Must be.
Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar would be a submix withing Cubase =
which would be a=20
submix within Paris.
I have to read more about Pulsar's implementation. Any good links guys?
Tom
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4479cdc4$1@linux...
Also, for those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a =
'VST mode'
where the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
plug-ins.
In this case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
and
the f/x and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
That's
what has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
running
in Live.=20
TCB
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Parisians...
>I will try to answer as much as I can...
>
>First of course there is full support under XP win98/Me etc...
>
>Latency with asio drivers is as low as 1.5 ms so Cubase SX or other =
app
can
>run along Pulsar.
>I use Cubase to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
inside
>Pulsar , you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices =
inside
>pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like Sony Oxford, =
use
mixer's
>inserts to use dsp plugins and then route to Paris.
>
>Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 sample going in 4 =
samples
>the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from adat pulsar out to adat =
Paris
>in.
>so 19 samples for normal pulsar routing from Paris and back again to =
Paris.
>Some plugins like SPL Transient designer (yes SPL has made the =
algorithm
>for Pulsar !!, it rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one =
and
>they sound about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.
>What I normally do is when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I =
use some
>fixed pluigins like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer =
and
>then a small free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a =
total
>of 80 samples !!
>yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE pARIS 1 ms back.
>Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 samples does need =
any
>nudging...
>
>Regarding ADAT sync YES there is a addon card that gets wordclock in =
out
>and adat sync.
>
>
>I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for your rig to use SX native =
plugins
>routing back and forth from/to Paris.
>Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior to RME cards.
>The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from anything out =
there,
and
>the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE !!
>You will be addicted and you would not won't go back...
>There is continuing support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along =
with
>asio drivers and you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers !!
>
>These new plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.
>I am in love with these new babies along with the older ones already =
there.
>There are many develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins =
have
>been ported to Pulsar too !!
>You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! TimeworksX compressor and many =
otehr
>from them for Pulsar.
>
>So here is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:
>
>You already Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right =
?
>you get Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs =
one
>spdif in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack =
that has
>Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) Mastereverb Pro =
and
>other great plugins as standard.
>
>If you use ADAT sync you get the sync addon card.
>
>The you are st to begin your great adventure.
>The benefits are tremendous , you will have these great dsp =
plugins/routing
>plus Cubase SX native routing from Paris to Pulsar to SX back to =
Pulsar
and
>back again to Paris.
>Isn't that a great trip ?
>regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
>>I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores =
etc.)
>=3D
>>which will
>>probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi =
in/out.
>>
>> OR
>>
>>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same =
box
>>and eliminate the RME card?
>>
>>If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
=3D
>>Cubase (internally)
>>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20
>>
>>Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending =
softsynths
=3D
>>to Paris also?
>>
>>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's =
softsynths
>=3D
>>and return everything to
>>Paris? =3D20
>>
>>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar =
plugins =3D
>>right? Close to the same=3D20
>>for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
>>
>>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins =
and
=3D
>>softsynths up
>>directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to =
=3D
>>Cubase right?
>>
>>One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20
>>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
>>
>>Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
=3D
>>(like DJs w/RME)?
>>
>>What do you use for sequencing?
>>
>>Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as =
large
>=3D
>>as Steinberg or RME?
>>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
>>
>>
>>A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
=3D
>>Devices in R&D.
>>He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
>>
>>You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
=3D
>>program. I'd prefer
>>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
=3D
>>Pulsars' hardware
>>looks tough to beat for the cost.=3D20
>>
>>I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market =
for =3D
>>Pulsar hardware.
>>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for =
your =3D
>>response.
>>Tom=3D20
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>>news:44788b63$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
>> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a =
hell of
>=3D
>>a
>> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
>> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
>> Hold your breath=3D20
>> SSL9000
>> Neve1084
>> Pultec
>> API 550
>> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
>> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what =
it
=3D
>>can
>> do to your mixes.
>> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>>
>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
>> Still with me ?
>>
>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle =
with =3D
>>get them
>> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>>
>> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones =
are =3D
>>dream
>> come true for me...
>>
>> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>>
>> Tons of free ones.
>>
>> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat =
=3D
>>in/outs
>> are "oblidged" to take this route.
>> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all =
main
=3D
>>plugins
>> cost used around 400-500-600 $
>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs =
plus
>=3D
>>a spdif
>> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi =
ins/outs
>>
>> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
=3D
>>$-1100$
>> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
>> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the =
nice
>=3D
>>Paris
>> eq...
>>
>> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two =
=3D
>>mecs two
>> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>>
>> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system =
like DJ
>=3D
>>wants
>> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
=3D
>>already bought)
>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with =
18
>=3D
>>dsp
>> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>>
>> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp =
chips
=3D
>>!!!
>> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =3D
>>900$-1000-1100$
>> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
>> Ok back to reality...
>>
>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and =
using =3D
>>some
>> great plugins as I mentioned.
>> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>>
>> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite =
impressive! =3D
>>I have a=3D20
>>few questions.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing =
in a =3D
>>killer Cubase=3D20
>>rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card =
for 16 =3D
>>channels of=3D20
>>ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>>size=3D3D2> &nbs=3D
>>p; =3D
>>; =3D
>> =3D20
>>OR</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX =
with a
>=3D
>>Pulsar Pro=3D20
>>card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME =3D
>>card?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so will this buy me the =
software =3D
>>power to run=3D20
>>Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via =
ADAT in
=3D
>>sync? =3D20
>></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Process Paris tracks with =
plugins in =3D
>>realtime while=3D20
>>sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
=3D
>>to it's fullest=3D20
>>including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for =
Pulsar =3D
>>softsynths and 0=3D20
>>for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third =
party=3D20
>>softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar =
software mixers
>=3D
>>or can I=3D20
>>call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably =
have =3D
>>to use=3D20
>>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about =
how many
>=3D
>>voices of=3D20
>></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs =
and 2 or
=3D
>>three nice=3D20
>>comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make =
this =3D
>>proposed=3D20
>>system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for =3D
>>sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll =
be =3D
>>around for a=3D20
>>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =3D
>>RME?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU =
syndrome=3D20
>>here.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A close friend of mine is =
employed here
>=3D
>>in=3D20
>>Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the =
Sharc=3D20
>>chips.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't =
want to
=3D
>>learn another=3D20
>>mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase =
like =3D
>>a UAD-1=3D20
>>card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for =
the=3D20
>>cost. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and =
also =3D
>>wondering about=3D20
>>the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll =
be paying
>=3D
>>very close=3D20
>>attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>>message=3D20
>> <A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
Hi,<=3D
>>BR>Pulsar=3D20
>> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the =
=3D
>>best synths=3D20
>> around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20
>> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for =
these=3D20
>> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath =
<BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20
>> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering =
dynamic
>=3D
>>EQ that=3D20
>> hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros =
could =3D
>>have=3D20
>> access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 =
channel=3D20
>> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =3D
>>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20
>> THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine =
=3D
>>something=3D20
>> around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all =
like
>=3D
>>500 $=3D20
>> or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
=3D
>>plugins out=3D20
>> there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =3D
>>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20
>> that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of =
free
>=3D
>>
>> ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS =
users
>=3D
>>with=3D20
>> adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are =
=3D
>>already=3D20
>> there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost =
used
>=3D
>>around=3D20
>> 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
adat
=3D
>>ins and=3D20
>> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out =
plus =3D
>>two (32)=3D20
>> midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon =
and
>=3D
>>for=3D20
>> around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =3D
>>fantastic=3D20
>> sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you =
will
>=3D
>>stop=3D20
>> using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least =
one
>=3D
>>mec and=3D20
>> one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two =
adat
>=3D
>>cards=3D20
>> under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =3D
>>ins/outs to=3D20
>> your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two =
Pulsar
=3D
>>cards=3D20
>> (your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $ =
to
>=3D
>>have=3D20
>> full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as =
I=3D20
>> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are =
also =3D
>>super=3D20
>> Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are =
the
>=3D
>>same,=3D20
>> each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and =
with =3D
>>three=3D20
>> cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to =
reality...<BR><BR>One
>=3D
>>Pulsar=3D20
>> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
some<BR>great
>=3D
>>plugins=3D20
>> as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =3D
>>recording=3D20
>> platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20
>> interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
>><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
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>>and=3D20
>>you?<BR><A=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That sounds like a routing mechanism =
that is easier=20
to deal with to me. So you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted =
from the=20
Paris-Cubase Loop using 'VST mode'?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Insert the Pulsar =
softsynths/plugins as VSTs=20
in Cubase? Will Pulsar still be doing the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>number crunching onboard? Must=20
be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar =
would be a=20
submix withing Cubase which would be a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix within Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to read more about Pulsar's=20
implementation. Any good links guys?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"TCB" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4479cdc4$1@linux">news:4479cdc4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Also=
, for=20
those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a 'VST =
mode'<BR>where=20
the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
plug-ins.<BR>In this=20
case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
and<BR>the f/x=20
and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
That's<BR>what=20
has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
running<BR>in=20
Live. <BR><BR>TCB<BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Parisians...<BR>>I will try to answer as =
much as=20
I can...<BR>><BR>>First of course there is full support under XP =
win98/Me etc...<BR>><BR>>Latency with asio drivers is as low as =
1.5 ms=20
so Cubase SX or other app<BR>can<BR>>run along Pulsar.<BR>>I use =
Cubase=20
to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
inside<BR>>Pulsar ,=20
you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices=20
inside<BR>>pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like =
Sony=20
Oxford, use<BR>mixer's<BR>>inserts to use dsp plugins and then =
route to=20
Paris.<BR>><BR>>Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 =
sample=20
going in 4 samples<BR>>the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from =
adat=20
pulsar out to adat Paris<BR>>in.<BR>>so 19 samples for normal =
pulsar=20
routing from Paris and back again to Paris.<BR>>Some plugins like =
SPL=20
Transient designer (yes SPL has made the algorithm<BR>>for Pulsar =
!!, it=20
rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one and<BR>>they =
sound=20
about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.<BR>>What I normally =
do is=20
when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I use some<BR>>fixed =
pluigins=20
like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer and<BR>>then =
a small=20
free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a total<BR>>of =
80=20
samples !!<BR>>yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE =
pARIS 1 ms=20
back.<BR>>Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 =
samples =20
does need any<BR>>nudging...<BR>><BR>>Regarding ADAT sync YES =
there=20
is a addon card that gets wordclock in out<BR>>and adat=20
sync.<BR>><BR>><BR>>I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for =
your rig=20
to use SX native plugins<BR>>routing back and forth from/to=20
Paris.<BR>>Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior =
to RME=20
cards.<BR>>The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from =
anything out=20
there,<BR>and<BR>>the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE =
!!<BR>>You=20
will be addicted and you would not won't go back...<BR>>There is =
continuing=20
support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along with<BR>>asio =
drivers and=20
you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers =
!!<BR>><BR>>These new=20
plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.<BR>>I am in love with =
these new=20
babies along with the older ones already there.<BR>>There are many=20
develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins have<BR>>been =
ported=20
to Pulsar too !!<BR>>You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! =
TimeworksX=20
compressor and many otehr<BR>>from them for =
Pulsar.<BR>><BR>>So here=20
is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:<BR>><BR>>You =
already=20
Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right ?<BR>>you =
get=20
Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs =
one<BR>>spdif=20
in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack that=20
has<BR>>Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) =
Mastereverb=20
Pro and<BR>>other great plugins as standard.<BR>><BR>>If you =
use ADAT=20
sync you get the sync addon card.<BR>><BR>>The you are st to =
begin your=20
great adventure.<BR>>The benefits are tremendous , you will have =
these=20
great dsp plugins/routing<BR>>plus Cubase SX native routing from =
Paris to=20
Pulsar to SX back to Pulsar<BR>and<BR>>back again to =
Paris.<BR>>Isn't=20
that a great trip=20
?<BR>>regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>> <BR>><BR>><BR>>"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios, <BR>>>Scope =
pro=20
looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.<BR>>>I am =
on the=20
brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores=20
etc.)<BR>>=3D<BR>>>which will<BR>>>probably include an =
RME card=20
for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi=20
=
in/out.<BR>>><BR> >> & ;nbsp; =
&=
nbsp; & nbsp; & n=
bsp; =20
OR<BR>>><BR>>>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a =
Pulsar Pro=20
card in the same box<BR>>>and eliminate the RME=20
card?<BR>>><BR>>>If so will this buy me the software power =
to run=20
Pulsar plugins in =3D<BR>>>Cubase (internally)<BR>>>and =
route in/out=20
to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Process Paris =
tracks=20
with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths<BR>=3D<BR>>>to =
Paris=20
also?<BR>>><BR>>>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's =
fullest=20
including it's softsynths<BR>>=3D<BR>>>and return everything=20
to<BR>>>Paris? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Latency equaling =
1.5ms for=20
Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =3D<BR>>>right? =
Close to=20
the same=3D20<BR>>>for Cubase and it's third party=20
softsynths?<BR>>><BR>>>Do I need to run Pulsar software =
mixers or=20
can I call it's plugins and<BR>=3D<BR>>>softsynths =
up<BR>>>directly=20
in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to=20
=3D<BR>>>Cubase right?<BR>>><BR>>>One Pro card would =
allow=20
about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20<BR>>>How about a few =
nice=20
reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with =
that?<BR>>><BR>>>Any crazy=20
workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
=3D<BR>>>(like=20
DJs w/RME)?<BR>>><BR>>>What do you use for=20
sequencing?<BR>>><BR>>>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
around=20
for a while? Are they as large<BR>>=3D<BR>>>as =
Steinberg or=20
RME?<BR>>>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
here.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>A close friend of mine is =
employed=20
here in Massachusetts by Analog =3D<BR>>>Devices in =
R&D.<BR>>>He=20
speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.<BR>>><BR>>>You can =
probably=20
tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
=3D<BR>>>program. =20
I'd prefer<BR>>>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card =
with=20
softsynths. =3D<BR>>>Pulsars' hardware<BR>>>looks =
tough to=20
beat for the cost.=3D20<BR>>><BR>>>I'm seriously =
interested and also=20
wondering about the used market for =3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
hardware.<BR>>>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very =
close=20
attention for your=20
=
=3D<BR>>>response.<BR>>>Tom=3D20 <BR>>><BR>>> =
;=20
"Dimitrios" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote in message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:44788b63$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
Hi,<BR>>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp=20
system.<BR>>> Except for the best synths around=20
(Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell =
of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a<BR>>> =20
PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT<BR>>> Now a new company has =
produced new=20
plugz for these beasts.<BR>>> Hold your=20
breath=3D20<BR>>> SSL9000<BR>>> =20
Neve1084<BR>>> Pultec<BR>>> API =
550<BR>>> =20
RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>>> and an exceptional mastering =
dynamic=20
EQ that hard to believe what =
it<BR>=3D<BR>>>can<BR>>> do to=20
your mixes.<BR>>> Only pros could have access to beats =
like these=20
!<BR>>><BR>>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel =
eq/dymanics =20
emulator also announced.<BR>>> Still with me=20
?<BR>>><BR>>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE =
PRICES WILL=20
BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ =
each main=20
plugin and a bundle with =3D<BR>>>get them<BR>>> all =
like 500=20
$ or something,prices yet to be =
anounced.<BR>>><BR>>> I have=20
tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are=20
=3D<BR>>>dream<BR>>> come true for=20
me...<BR>>><BR>>> Note that already there is Vinco =
(1176=20
comp emulation).<BR>>><BR>>> Tons of free=20
ones.<BR>>><BR>>> I would not scream so loud so many =
times=20
but PaRIS users with adat =3D<BR>>>in/outs<BR>>> are =
"oblidged" to take this route.<BR>>> Ok UAD1 are already =
there but=20
a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all=20
main<BR>=3D<BR>>>plugins<BR>>> cost used around =
400-500-600=20
$<BR>>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
adat ins=20
and outs plus<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a spdif<BR>>> in and =
out plus 2=20
analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi=20
ins/outs<BR>>><BR>>> Now consider the above new =
plugins buy=20
addon and for around 1000 =3D<BR>>>$-1100$<BR>>> you =
will have=20
a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.<BR>>> =
If you=20
here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the=20
nice<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Paris<BR>>> =20
eq...<BR>>><BR>>> Well you would need at least one =
mec and=20
one adat card or best two =3D<BR>>>mecs two<BR>>> =
adat cards ,=20
or one mec two adat cards under Me =
(win98)<BR>>><BR>>> Now=20
if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like=20
DJ<BR>>=3D<BR>>>wants<BR>>> (me too) you can buy =
another=20
two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =3D<BR>>>already=20
bought)<BR>>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full =
three=20
pulsar cards with 18<BR>>=3D<BR>>>dsp<BR>>> chips =
!!! and=20
be happy as I am...<BR>>><BR>>> well there is the =
"Kingsize"=20
option.<BR>>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there =
each=20
having 15 dsp chips<BR>=3D<BR>>>!!!<BR>>> In outs =
are the=20
same, each card can be bought for around=20
=3D<BR>>>900$-1000-1100$<BR>>> used and with three =
cards you=20
can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>>> Ok back to=20
reality...<BR>>><BR>>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps =
is=20
adequate for mixing a song and using =
=3D<BR>>>some<BR>>> great=20
plugins as I mentioned.<BR>>> The same card can be =
configured for=20
a synth recording platforma...<BR>>><BR>>> I am =
happy to say=20
more if I see anyone interested...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
Regards,<BR>>> =20
Dimitrios<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>>><=
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bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
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size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DI V> <BR>>><DIV>&=
lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =20
=3D<BR>>>I have a=3D20<BR>>>few=20
questions.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a=20
=3D<BR>>>killer Cubase=3D20<BR>>>rig (dual cores etc.) =
which=20
will</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
=3D<BR>>>channels=20
of=3D20<BR>>>ADAT and Midi=20
in/out.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
=
face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR> >>size=3D3D2> &n bsp; &nbs=
p; =20
=
&nbs=3D<BR> >>p; &a mp;nbsp; =
=20
=
=3D<BR> >>; &am p;nbsp; &nb=
sp; =20
=3D<BR>>> =20
=
=3D20<BR>>>OR</FONT></DIV> <BR>>><DIV><FO=
NT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Can I=20
continue to use Cubase SX with a<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
Pro=3D20<BR>>>card in the same=20
box</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME=20
=
=3D<BR> >>card?</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>If so=20
will this buy me the software =3D<BR>>>power to =
run=3D20<BR>>>Pulsar=20
plugins in Cubase=20
(internally)</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT=20
in<BR>=3D<BR>>>sync?=20
=
=3D20<BR>>></FONT></DIV> <BR>>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Process=20
Paris tracks with plugins in =3D<BR>>>realtime =
while=3D20<BR>>>sending=20
softsynths to Paris=20
also?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
=3D<BR>>>to it's=20
fullest=3D20<BR>>>including it's softsynths and return =
everything=20
to</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Paris? =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar=20
=3D<BR>>>softsynths and 0=3D20<BR>>>for Pulsar plugins =
right? =20
Close to the same =
</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third=20
=
party=3D20<BR> >>softsynths?</FONT></DIV > <BR>>><=
;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Do I need=20
to run Pulsar software mixers<BR>>=3D<BR>>>or can =
I=3D20<BR>>>call=20
it's plugins and softsynths=20
up</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
=3D<BR>>>to=20
use=3D20<BR>>>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase=20
right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about how=20
many<BR>>=3D<BR>>>voices =
of=3D20<BR>>></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 =
or<BR>=3D<BR>>>three=20
nice=3D20<BR>>>comps with=20
that?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this=20
=3D<BR>>>proposed=3D20<BR>>>system with Pulsar work (like =
DJs=20
w/RME)?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for=20
=
=3D<BR> >>sequencing?</FONT></DIV > <BR>>><DIV>=
;<FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Is=20
Creamware a company that'll be =3D<BR>>>around for=20
a=3D20<BR>>>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or=20
=
=3D<BR> >>RME?</FONT></DIV> ; <BR>>><DIV><FO=
NT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU=20
=
syndrome=3D20<BR> >>here.</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>><DI=
V><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV> <BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>A close=20
friend of mine is employed=20
here<BR>>=3D<BR>>>in=3D20<BR>>>Massachusetts by Analog =
Devices in=20
R&D.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the=20
=
Sharc=3D20<BR> >>chips.</FONT></DIV& gt; <BR>>><DIV&=
gt;<FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't want =
to<BR>=3D<BR>>>learn=20
another=3D20<BR>>>mixer/software program. I'd=20
prefer</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =3D<BR>>>a=20
UAD-1=3D20<BR>>>card with softsynths. Pulsars'=20
hardware</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for the=3D20<BR>>>cost.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and also=20
=3D<BR>>>wondering about=3D20<BR>>>the used market for =
Pulsar=20
hardware.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be =
paying<BR>>=3D<BR>>>very=20
close=3D20<BR>>>attention for your=20
response.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom =
</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 <BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING=
-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000=20
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
<DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> =
<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi'>=
news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&=
lt;BR>Hi</A>,<=3D<BR>>>BR>Pulsar=3D20 <BR>>> =20
as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for =
the=20
=3D<BR>>>best synths=3D20<BR>>> around =
(Moogs,Prophets,etc) it=20
is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20<BR>>> =20
ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for=20
these=3D20<BR>>> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath=20
=
<BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<B R>Pultec<BR>API=3D20 <BR>=
>> =20
550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional =
mastering=20
dynamic<BR>>=3D<BR>>>EQ that=3D20<BR>>> hard to =
believe what=20
it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could=20
=3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> access to beats like these=20
!<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=3D20<BR>>> =
eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me=20
=3D<BR>>>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20<BR>>> THE =
MOST=20
INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine=20
=3D<BR>>>something=3D20<BR>>> around 60-70 $ each =
main plugin=20
and a bundle with get them<BR>all like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>500 =
$=3D20<BR>>> or something,prices yet to be=20
anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =3D<BR>>>plugins=20
out=3D20<BR>>> there , believe me these new ones are=20
dream<BR>come true for=20
=3D<BR> >>me...<BR><BR>Not e=3D20 <BR>>> =
that already=20
there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of=20
free<BR>>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =
ones.<BR><BR>I would=20
not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS=20
users<BR>>=3D<BR>>>with=3D20<BR>>> adat =
in/outs<BR>are=20
"oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are=20
=3D<BR>>>already=3D20<BR>>> there but a Pulsar card =
with 6 dsps=20
and all main plugins<BR>cost=20
used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>around=3D20<BR>>> 400-500-600 =
$<BR>So=20
with normal classic option you will have 16 adat<BR>=3D<BR>>>ins =
and=3D20<BR>>> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus =
2 analog=20
24/96 in and out plus =3D<BR>>>two (32)=3D20<BR>>> =
midi=20
ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy =
addon=20
and<BR>>=3D<BR>>>for=3D20<BR>>> around 1000=20
$-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of=20
=3D<BR>>>fantastic=3D20<BR>>> sounding =
plugins.<BR>If you=20
here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you=20
will<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stop=3D20<BR>>> using the nice=20
Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR& ;gt;Well you would need at least=20
one<BR>>=3D<BR>>>mec and=3D20<BR>>> one adat card =
or best two=20
mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two=20
adat<BR>>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> under Me=20
(win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat=20
=3D<BR>>>ins/outs to=3D20<BR>>> your system like DJ=20
wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two=20
Pulsar<BR>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> (your plugins =
are already=20
bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $=20
to<BR>>=3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> full three pulsar =
cards with=20
18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=3D20<BR>>> =20
am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" =
option.<BR>there=20
are also =3D<BR>>>super=3D20<BR>>> Pulsar cards out =
there each=20
having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are=20
the<BR>>=3D<BR>>>same,=3D20<BR>>> each card can =
be bought for=20
around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with=20
=3D<BR>>>three=3D20<BR>>> cards you can have 45 dsps =
!!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to=20
=
reality...<BR><BR>One<BR>>=3D <BR>>>Pulsar=3D20<BR>&g=
t;> =20
card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using=20
=
some<BR>great<BR>>=3D<BR>>>plugins=3D20 <BR>>> =
as I=20
mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth=20
=3D<BR>>>recording=3D20<BR>>> =
platforma...<BR><BR>I=20
am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
interested...<BR><BR>Regards,&am p;lt;BR>Dimitrios<BR><=
;/BLOCKQUOTE><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>>>and=3D20<BR>>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>>hr=
ef=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR> >>.html</A> = 20
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Sun, 28 May 2006 10:34 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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I was talking about people who are willing to use a VST host as their primary
app. For the routing madness that DJ and others do (PARIS as host/tracking
app, VST host on other computer for f/x) probably the Pulsar mixer is a better
idea.
TCB
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Thad,
>That sounds like a routing mechanism that is easier to deal with to me.
=
>So you
>think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted from the Paris-Cubase Loop using =
>'VST mode'?
>Insert the Pulsar softsynths/plugins as VSTs in Cubase? Will Pulsar =
>still be doing the
>number crunching onboard? Must be.
>
>Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar would be a submix withing Cubase =
>which would be a=20
>submix within Paris.
>
>I have to read more about Pulsar's implementation. Any good links guys?
>Tom
>
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4479cdc4$1@linux...
>
> Also, for those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a =
>'VST mode'
> where the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
>plug-ins.
> In this case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
>and
> the f/x and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
>That's
> what has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
>running
> in Live.=20
>
> TCB
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >
> >Dear Parisians...
> >I will try to answer as much as I can...
> >
> >First of course there is full support under XP win98/Me etc...
> >
> >Latency with asio drivers is as low as 1.5 ms so Cubase SX or other =
>app
> can
> >run along Pulsar.
> >I use Cubase to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
>inside
> >Pulsar , you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices
=
>inside
> >pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like Sony Oxford, =
>use
> mixer's
> >inserts to use dsp plugins and then route to Paris.
> >
> >Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 sample going in 4 =
>samples
> >the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from adat pulsar out to adat
=
>Paris
> >in.
> >so 19 samples for normal pulsar routing from Paris and back again to
=
>Paris.
> >Some plugins like SPL Transient designer (yes SPL has made the =
>algorithm
> >for Pulsar !!, it rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one
=
>and
> >they sound about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.
> >What I normally do is when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I =
>use some
> >fixed pluigins like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer
=
>and
> >then a small free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a =
>total
> >of 80 samples !!
> >yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE pARIS 1 ms back.
> >Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 samples does need
=
>any
> >nudging...
> >
> >Regarding ADAT sync YES there is a addon card that gets wordclock in
=
>out
> >and adat sync.
> >
> >
> >I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for your rig to use SX native =
>plugins
> >routing back and forth from/to Paris.
> >Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior to RME cards.
> >The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from anything out =
>there,
> and
> >the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE !!
> >You will be addicted and you would not won't go back...
> >There is continuing support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along
=
>with
> >asio drivers and you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers !!
> >
> >These new plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.
> >I am in love with these new babies along with the older ones already
=
>there.
> >There are many develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins =
>have
> >been ported to Pulsar too !!
> >You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! TimeworksX compressor and many
=
>otehr
> >from them for Pulsar.
> >
> >So here is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:
> >
> >You already Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right
=
>?
> >you get Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs
=
>one
> >spdif in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack =
>that has
> >Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) Mastereverb Pro
=
>and
> >other great plugins as standard.
> >
> >If you use ADAT sync you get the sync addon card.
> >
> >The you are st to begin your great adventure.
> >The benefits are tremendous , you will have these great dsp =
>plugins/routing
> >plus Cubase SX native routing from Paris to Pulsar to SX back to =
>Pulsar
> and
> >back again to Paris.
> >Isn't that a great trip ?
> >regards,
> >Dimitrios
> >
> >
> >
> >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Dimitrios,
> >>Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
> >>I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores =
>etc.)
> >=3D
> >>which will
> >>probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi =
>in/out.
> >>
> >> OR
> >>
> >>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same =
>box
> >>and eliminate the RME card?
> >>
> >>If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
>=3D
> >>Cubase (internally)
> >>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20
> >>
> >>Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending =
>softsynths
> =3D
> >>to Paris also?
> >>
> >>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's =
>softsynths
> >=3D
> >>and return everything to
> >>Paris? =3D20
> >>
> >>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar =
>plugins =3D
> >>right? Close to the same=3D20
> >>for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
> >>
> >>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins =
>and
> =3D
> >>softsynths up
> >>directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to
=
>=3D
> >>Cubase right?
> >>
> >>One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20
> >>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
> >>
> >>Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work
=
>=3D
> >>(like DJs w/RME)?
> >>
> >>What do you use for sequencing?
> >>
> >>Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as =
>large
> >=3D
> >>as Steinberg or RME?
> >>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
> >>
> >>
> >>A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
>=3D
> >>Devices in R&D.
> >>He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
> >>
> >>You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
>=3D
> >>program. I'd prefer
> >>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
>=3D
> >>Pulsars' hardware
> >>looks tough to beat for the cost.=3D20
> >>
> >>I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market =
>for =3D
> >>Pulsar hardware.
> >>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for =
>your =3D
> >>response.
> >>Tom=3D20
> >>
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
> >>news:44788b63$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
> >> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a =
>hell of
> >=3D
> >>a
> >> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
> >> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
> >> Hold your breath=3D20
> >> SSL9000
> >> Neve1084
> >> Pultec
> >> API 550
> >> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
> >> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what
=
>it
> =3D
> >>can
> >> do to your mixes.
> >> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
> >>
> >> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
> >> Still with me ?
> >>
> >> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
> >> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle =
>with =3D
> >>get them
> >> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
> >>
> >> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones =
>are =3D
> >>dream
> >> come true for me...
> >>
> >> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
> >>
> >> Tons of free ones.
> >>
> >> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat
=
>=3D
> >>in/outs
> >> are "oblidged" to take this route.
> >> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all =
>main
> =3D
> >>plugins
> >> cost used around 400-500-600 $
> >> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs =
>plus
> >=3D
> >>a spdif
> >> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi =
>ins/outs
> >>
> >> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
>=3D
> >>$-1100$
> >> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
> >> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the =
>nice
> >=3D
> >>Paris
> >> eq...
> >>
> >> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two
=
>=3D
> >>mecs two
> >> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
> >>
> >> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system =
>like DJ
> >=3D
> >>wants
> >> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
>=3D
> >>already bought)
> >> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with
=
>18
> >=3D
> >>dsp
> >> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
> >>
> >> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
> >> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp =
>chips
> =3D
> >>!!!
> >> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =3D
> >>900$-1000-1100$
> >> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
> >> Ok back to reality...
> >>
> >> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and =
>using =3D
> >>some
> >> great plugins as I mentioned.
> >> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
> >>
> >> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >>
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> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite =
>impressive! =3D
> >>I have a=3D20
> >>few questions.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing
=
>in a =3D
> >>killer Cubase=3D20
> >>rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card =
>for 16 =3D
> >>channels of=3D20
> >>ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >>size=3D3D2> &nbs=3D
> >>p; =3D
> >>; =3D
> >> =3D20
> >>OR</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX
=
>with a
> >=3D
> >>Pulsar Pro=3D20
> >>card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME =3D
> >>card?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so will this buy me the =
>software =3D
> >>power to run=3D20
> >>Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via =
>ADAT in
> =3D
> >>sync? =3D20
> >></FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Process Paris tracks with =
>plugins in =3D
> >>realtime while=3D20
> >>sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
>=3D
> >>to it's fullest=3D20
> >>including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for =
>Pulsar =3D
> >>softsynths and 0=3D20
> >>for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third =
>party=3D20
> >>softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar =
>software mixers
> >=3D
> >>or can I=3D20
> >>call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably =
>have =3D
> >>to use=3D20
> >>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about
=
>how many
> >=3D
> >>voices of=3D20
> >></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs =
>and 2 or
> =3D
> >>three nice=3D20
> >>comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make =
>this =3D
> >>proposed=3D20
> >>system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for =3D
> >>sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll
=
>be =3D
> >>around for a=3D20
> >>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =3D
> >>RME?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU =
>syndrome=3D20
> >>here.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A close friend of mine is =
>employed here
> >=3D
> >>in=3D20
> >>Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the =
>Sharc=3D20
> >>chips.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't =
>want to
> =3D
> >>learn another=3D20
> >>mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase
=
>like =3D
> >>a UAD-1=3D20
> >>card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for =
>the=3D20
> >>cost. </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and =
>also =3D
> >>wondering about=3D20
> >>the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll =
>be paying
> >=3D
> >>very close=3D20
> >>attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Hi,<=3D
> >>BR>Pulsar=3D20
> >> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the
=
>=3D
> >>best synths=3D20
> >> around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20
> >> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for =
>these=3D20
> >> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath =
><BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20
> >> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering =
>dynamic
> >=3D
> >>EQ that=3D20
> >> hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros =
>could =3D
> >>have=3D20
> >> access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 =
>channel=3D20
> >> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =3D
> >>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20
> >> THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine
=
>=3D
> >>something=3D20
> >> around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all
=
>like
> >=3D
> >>500 $=3D20
> >> or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
>=3D
> >>plugins out=3D20
> >> there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =3D
> >>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20
> >> that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of
=
>free
> >=3D
> >>
> >> ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS =
>users
> >=3D
> >>with=3D20
> >> adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are
=
>=3D
> >>already=3D20
> >> there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost =
>used
> >=3D
> >>around=3D20
> >> 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
>adat
> =3D
> >>ins and=3D20
> >> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out =
>plus =3D
> >>two (32)=3D20
> >> midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon
=
>and
> >=3D
> >>for=3D20
> >> around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =3D
> >>fantastic=3D20
> >> sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you
=
>will
> >=3D
> >>stop=3D20
> >> using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least
=
>one
> >=3D
> >>mec and=3D20
> >> one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two
=
>adat
> >=3D
> >>cards=3D20
> >> under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =3D
> >>ins/outs to=3D20
> >> your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two =
>Pulsar
> =3D
> >>cards=3D20
> >> (your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $
=
>to
> >=3D
> >>have=3D20
> >> full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as =
>I=3D20
> >> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are =
>also =3D
> >>super=3D20
> >> Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are
=
>the
> >=3D
> >>same,=3D20
> >> each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and =
>with =3D
> >>three=3D20
> >> cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to =
>reality...<BR><BR>One
> >=3D
> >>Pulsar=3D20
> >> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
>some<BR>great
> >=3D
> >>plugins=3D20
> >> as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =3D
> >>recording=3D20
> >> platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20
> >> interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
> >><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >>and=3D20
> >>you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/r=
>efer=3D
> >>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >>
> >>
> >
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That sounds like a routing mechanism =
>that is easier=20
>to deal with to me. So you</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted =
>from the=20
>Paris-Cubase Loop using 'VST mode'?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Insert the Pulsar =
>softsynths/plugins as VSTs=20
>in Cubase? Will Pulsar still be doing the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>number crunching onboard? Must=20
>be.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar =
>would be a=20
>submix withing Cubase which would be a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix within Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to read more about Pulsar's=20
>implementation. Any good links guys?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"TCB" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:4479cdc4$1@linux">news:4479cdc4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Also=
>, for=20
> those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a 'VST =
>mode'<BR>where=20
> the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
>plug-ins.<BR>In this=20
> case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
>and<BR>the f/x=20
> and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
>That's<BR>what=20
> has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
>running<BR>in=20
> Live. <BR><BR>TCB<BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Parisians...<BR>>I will try to answer as =
>much as=20
> I can...<BR>><BR>>First of course there is full support under XP =
>
> win98/Me etc...<BR>><BR>>Latency with asio drivers is as low as =
>1.5 ms=20
> so Cubase SX or other app<BR>can<BR>>run along Pulsar.<BR>>I use =
>Cubase=20
> to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
>inside<BR>>Pulsar ,=20
> you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices=20
> inside<BR>>pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like =
>Sony=20
> Oxford, use<BR>mixer's<BR>>inserts to use dsp plugins and then =
>route to=20
> Paris.<BR>><BR>>Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 =
>sample=20
> going in 4 samples<BR>>the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from =
>adat=20
> pulsar out to adat Paris<BR>>in.<BR>>so 19 samples for normal =
>pulsar=20
> routing from Paris and back again to Paris.<BR>>Some plugins like =
>SPL=20
> Transient designer (yes SPL has made the algorithm<BR>>for Pulsar =
>!!, it=20
> rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one and<BR>>they =
>sound=20
> about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.<BR>>What I normally =
>do is=20
> when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I use some<BR>>fixed =
>pluigins=20
> like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer and<BR>>then =
>a small=20
> free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a total<BR>>of =
>80=20
> samples !!<BR>>yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE =
>pARIS 1 ms=20
> back.<BR>>Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 =
>samples =20
> does need any<BR>>nudging...<BR>><BR>>Regarding ADAT sync YES =
>there=20
> is a addon card that gets wordclock in out<BR>>and adat=20
> sync.<BR>><BR>><BR>>I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for =
>your rig=20
> to use SX native plugins<BR>>routing back and forth from/to=20
> Paris.<BR>>Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior =
>to RME=20
> cards.<BR>>The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from =
>anything out=20
> there,<BR>and<BR>>the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE =
>!!<BR>>You=20
> will be addicted and you would not won't go back...<BR>>There is =
>continuing=20
> support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along with<BR>>asio =
>drivers and=20
> you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers =
>!!<BR>><BR>>These new=20
> plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.<BR>>I am in love with =
>these new=20
> babies along with the older ones already there.<BR>>There are many=20
> develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins have<BR>>been =
>ported=20
> to Pulsar too !!<BR>>You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! =
>TimeworksX=20
> compressor and many otehr<BR>>from them for =
>Pulsar.<BR>><BR>>So here=20
> is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:<BR>><BR>>You =
>already=20
> Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right ?<BR>>you =
>get=20
> Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs =
>one<BR>>spdif=20
> in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack that=20
> has<BR>>Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) =
>Mastereverb=20
> Pro and<BR>>other great plugins as standard.<BR>><BR>>If you =
>use ADAT=20
> sync you get the sync addon card.<BR>><BR>>The you are st to =
>begin your=20
> great adventure.<BR>>The benefits are tremendous , you will have =
>these=20
> great dsp plugins/routing<BR>>plus Cubase SX native routing from =
>Paris to=20
> Pulsar to SX back to Pulsar<BR>and<BR>>back again to =
>Paris.<BR>>Isn't=20
> that a great trip=20
> ?<BR>>regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Scope =
>pro=20
> looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.<BR>>>I am =
>on the=20
> brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores=20
> etc.)<BR>>=3D<BR>>>which will<BR>>>probably include an =
>RME card=20
> for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi=20
> =
>in/out.<BR>>><BR>>> =
> &=
>nbsp; &n=
>bsp; =20
> OR<BR>>><BR>>>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a =
>Pulsar Pro=20
> card in the same box<BR>>>and eliminate the RME=20
> card?<BR>>><BR>>>If so will this buy me the software power =
>to run=20
> Pulsar plugins in =3D<BR>>>Cubase (internally)<BR>>>and =
>route in/out=20
> to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Process Paris =
>tracks=20
> with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths<BR>=3D<BR>>>to =
>Paris=20
> also?<BR>>><BR>>>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's =
>fullest=20
> including it's softsynths<BR>>=3D<BR>>>and return everything=20
> to<BR>>>Paris? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Latency equaling =
>1.5ms for=20
> Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =3D<BR>>>right? =
>Close to=20
> the same=3D20<BR>>>for Cubase and it's third party=20
> softsynths?<BR>>><BR>>>Do I need to run Pulsar software =
>mixers or=20
> can I call it's plugins and<BR>=3D<BR>>>softsynths =
>up<BR>>>directly=20
> in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to=20
> =3D<BR>>>Cubase right?<BR>>><BR>>>One Pro card would =
>allow=20
> about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20<BR>>>How about a few =
>nice=20
> reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with =
>that?<BR>>><BR>>>Any crazy=20
> workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
>=3D<BR>>>(like=20
> DJs w/RME)?<BR>>><BR>>>What do you use for=20
> sequencing?<BR>>><BR>>>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
>around=20
> for a while? Are they as large<BR>>=3D<BR>>>as =
>Steinberg or=20
> RME?<BR>>>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
> here.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>A close friend of mine is =
>employed=20
> here in Massachusetts by Analog =3D<BR>>>Devices in =
>R&D.<BR>>>He=20
> speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.<BR>>><BR>>>You can =
>probably=20
> tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
>=3D<BR>>>program. =20
> I'd prefer<BR>>>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card =
>with=20
> softsynths. =3D<BR>>>Pulsars' hardware<BR>>>looks =
>tough to=20
> beat for the cost.=3D20<BR>>><BR>>>I'm seriously =
>interested and also=20
> wondering about the used market for =3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> hardware.<BR>>>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very =
>close=20
> attention for your=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>response.<BR>>>Tom=3D20<BR>>><BR>>> =
>;=20
> "Dimitrios" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote in message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:44788b63$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> Hi,<BR>>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp=20
> system.<BR>>> Except for the best synths around=20
> (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell =
>of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a<BR>>> =20
> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT<BR>>> Now a new company has =
>produced new=20
> plugz for these beasts.<BR>>> Hold your=20
> breath=3D20<BR>>> SSL9000<BR>>> =20
> Neve1084<BR>>> Pultec<BR>>> API =
>550<BR>>> =20
> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>>> and an exceptional mastering =
>dynamic=20
> EQ that hard to believe what =
>it<BR>=3D<BR>>>can<BR>>> do to=20
> your mixes.<BR>>> Only pros could have access to beats =
>like these=20
> !<BR>>><BR>>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel =
>eq/dymanics =20
> emulator also announced.<BR>>> Still with me=20
> ?<BR>>><BR>>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE =
>PRICES WILL=20
> BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ =
>each main=20
> plugin and a bundle with =3D<BR>>>get them<BR>>> all =
>like 500=20
> $ or something,prices yet to be =
>anounced.<BR>>><BR>>> I have=20
> tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are=20
> =3D<BR>>>dream<BR>>> come true for=20
> me...<BR>>><BR>>> Note that already there is Vinco =
>(1176=20
> comp emulation).<BR>>><BR>>> Tons of free=20
> ones.<BR>>><BR>>> I would not scream so loud so many =
>times=20
> but PaRIS users with adat =3D<BR>>>in/outs<BR>>> are =
>
> "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>>> Ok UAD1 are already =
>there but=20
> a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all=20
> main<BR>=3D<BR>>>plugins<BR>>> cost used around =
>400-500-600=20
> $<BR>>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
>adat ins=20
> and outs plus<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a spdif<BR>>> in and =
>out plus 2=20
> analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi=20
> ins/outs<BR>>><BR>>> Now consider the above new =
>plugins buy=20
> addon and for around 1000 =3D<BR>>>$-1100$<BR>>> you =
>will have=20
> a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.<BR>>> =
>If you=20
> here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the=20
> nice<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Paris<BR>>> =20
> eq...<BR>>><BR>>> Well you would need at least one =
>mec and=20
> one adat card or best two =3D<BR>>>mecs two<BR>>> =
>adat cards ,=20
> or one mec two adat cards under Me =
>(win98)<BR>>><BR>>> Now=20
> if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like=20
> DJ<BR>>=3D<BR>>>wants<BR>>> (me too) you can buy =
>another=20
> two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =3D<BR>>>already=20
> bought)<BR>>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full =
>three=20
> pulsar cards with 18<BR>>=3D<BR>>>dsp<BR>>> chips =
>!!! and=20
> be happy as I am...<BR>>><BR>>> well there is the =
>"Kingsize"=20
> option.<BR>>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there =
>each=20
> having 15 dsp chips<BR>=3D<BR>>>!!!<BR>>> In outs =
>are the=20
> same, each card can be bought for around=20
> =3D<BR>>>900$-1000-1100$<BR>>> used and with three =
>cards you=20
> can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>>> Ok back to=20
> reality...<BR>>><BR>>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps =
>is=20
> adequate for mixing a song and using =
>=3D<BR>>>some<BR>>> great=20
> plugins as I mentioned.<BR>>> The same card can be =
>configured for=20
> a synth recording platforma...<BR>>><BR>>> I am =
>happy to say=20
> more if I see anyone interested...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> Regards,<BR>>> =20
> Dimitrios<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>I choose =
>Polesoft=20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
>
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=
>META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=
></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=
>lt;FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =20
> =3D<BR>>>I have a=3D20<BR>>>few=20
> questions.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a=20
> =3D<BR>>>killer Cubase=3D20<BR>>>rig (dual cores etc.) =
>which=20
> will</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
>=3D<BR>>>channels=20
> of=3D20<BR>>>ADAT and Midi=20
> in/out.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> =
>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>>size=3D3D2> &nbs=
>p; =20
> =
>&nbs=3D<BR>>>p; =
> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>; &nb=
>sp; =20
> =3D<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D20<BR>>>OR</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FO=
>NT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Can I=20
> continue to use Cubase SX with a<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> Pro=3D20<BR>>>card in the same=20
> box</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>card?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>If so=20
> will this buy me the software =3D<BR>>>power to =
>run=3D20<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> plugins in Cubase=20
> (internally)</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT=20
> in<BR>=3D<BR>>>sync?=20
> =
>=3D20<BR>>></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=
>=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Process=20
> Paris tracks with plugins in =3D<BR>>>realtime =
>while=3D20<BR>>>sending=20
> softsynths to Paris=20
> also?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
>=3D<BR>>>to it's=20
> fullest=3D20<BR>>>including it's softsynths and return =
>everything=20
> to</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Paris? =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar=20
> =3D<BR>>>softsynths and 0=3D20<BR>>>for Pulsar plugins =
>right? =20
> Close to the same =
></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third=20
> =
>party=3D20<BR>>>softsynths?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><=
>;DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Do I need=20
> to run Pulsar software mixers<BR>>=3D<BR>>>or can =
>I=3D20<BR>>>call=20
> it's plugins and softsynths=20
> up</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
>=3D<BR>>>to=20
> use=3D20<BR>>>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase=20
> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about how=20
> many<BR>>=3D<BR>>>voices =
>of=3D20<BR>>></FONT><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 =
>or<BR>=3D<BR>>>three=20
> nice=3D20<BR>>>comps with=20
> that?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this=20
> =3D<BR>>>proposed=3D20<BR>>>system with Pulsar work (like =
>DJs=20
> w/RME)?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>sequencing?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=
>;<FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Is=20
> Creamware a company that'll be =3D<BR>>>around for=20
> a=3D20<BR>>>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>RME?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FO=
>NT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU=20
> =
>syndrome=3D20<BR>>>here.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DI=
>V><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>A close=20
> friend of mine is employed=20
> here<BR>>=3D<BR>>>in=3D20<BR>>>Massachusetts by Analog =
>Devices in=20
> R&D.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the=20
> =
>Sharc=3D20<BR>>>chips.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV&=
>gt;<FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't want =
>to<BR>=3D<BR>>>learn=20
> another=3D20<BR>>>mixer/software program. I'd=20
> prefer</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =3D<BR>>>a=20
> UAD-1=3D20<BR>>>card with softsynths. Pulsars'=20
> hardware</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for the=3D20<BR>>>cost.=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and also=20
> =3D<BR>>>wondering about=3D20<BR>>>the used market for =
>Pulsar=20
> hardware.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be =
>paying<BR>>=3D<BR>>>very=20
> close=3D20<BR>>>attention for your=20
> response.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom =
></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING=
>-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000=20
> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
><DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> =
><A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi'>=
>news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&=
>lt;BR>Hi</A>,<=3D<BR>>>BR>Pulsar=3D20<BR>>> =20
> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>>best synths=3D20<BR>>> around =
>(Moogs,Prophets,etc) it=20
> is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20<BR>>> =20
> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for=20
> these=3D20<BR>>> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath=20
> =
><BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20<BR>=
>>> =20
> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional =
>mastering=20
> dynamic<BR>>=3D<BR>>>EQ that=3D20<BR>>> hard to =
>believe what=20
> it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could=20
> =3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> access to beats like these=20
> !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=3D20<BR>>> =
>
> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me=20
> =3D<BR>>>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20<BR>>> THE =
>MOST=20
> INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine=20
> =3D<BR>>>something=3D20<BR>>> around 60-70 $ each =
>main plugin=20
> and a bundle with get them<BR>all like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>500 =
>
> $=3D20<BR>>> or something,prices yet to be=20
> anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =3D<BR>>>plugins=20
> out=3D20<BR>>> there , believe me these new ones are=20
> dream<BR>come true for=20
> =3D<BR>>>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> =
>that already=20
> there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of=20
> free<BR>>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =
>ones.<BR><BR>I would=20
> not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS=20
> users<BR>>=3D<BR>>>with=3D20<BR>>> adat =
>in/outs<BR>are=20
> "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are=20
> =3D<BR>>>already=3D20<BR>>> there but a Pulsar card =
>with 6 dsps=20
> and all main plugins<BR>cost=20
> used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>around=3D20<BR>>> 400-500-600 =
>$<BR>So=20
> with normal classic option you will have 16 adat<BR>=3D<BR>>>ins =
>
> and=3D20<BR>>> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus =
>2 analog=20
> 24/96 in and out plus =3D<BR>>>two (32)=3D20<BR>>> =
>midi=20
> ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy =
>addon=20
> and<BR>>=3D<BR>>>for=3D20<BR>>> around 1000=20
> $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of=20
> =3D<BR>>>fantastic=3D20<BR>>> sounding =
>plugins.<BR>If you=20
> here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you=20
> will<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stop=3D20<BR>>> using the nice=20
> Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least=20
> one<BR>>=3D<BR>>>mec and=3D20<BR>>> one adat card =
>or best two=20
> mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two=20
> adat<BR>>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> under Me=20
> (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat=20
> =3D<BR>>>ins/outs to=3D20<BR>>> your system like DJ=20
> wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two=20
> Pulsar<BR>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> (your plugins =
>are already=20
> bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $=20
> to<BR>>=3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> full three pulsar =
>cards with=20
> 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=3D20<BR>>> =20
> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" =
>option.<BR>there=20
> are also =3D<BR>>>super=3D20<BR>>> Pulsar cards out =
>there each=20
> having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are=20
> the<BR>>=3D<BR>>>same,=3D20<BR>>> each card can =
>be bought for=20
> around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with=20
> =3D<BR>>>three=3D20<BR>>> cards you can have 45 dsps =
>
> !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to=20
> =
>reality...<BR><BR>One<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=3D20<BR>&g=
>t;> =20
> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using=20
> =
>some<BR>great<BR>>=3D<BR>>>plugins=3D20<BR>>> =
>as I=20
> mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth=20
> =3D<BR>>>recording=3D20<BR>>> =
>platforma...<BR><BR>I=20
> am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><=
>;/BLOCKQUOTE><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>and=3D20<BR>>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>>hr=
>ef=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>>.html</A> =20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>>><BR>>&g=
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68730 is a reply to message #68728] |
Sun, 28 May 2006 11:42 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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I don't see how it could work any other way for *VST* plugins (especially
high latency stuff like SIR and UAD), unless the Pulsar mixer/control panel
had it's own plugin delay compensation that was powered by it's own DSP
chips, thus eliminating the need for the Cubase host for PDC. If it had this
I would be all over Pulsar so fast it would spin the planet backwards in
time. Imagine PDC in real time, powered by onboard DSP , with digital audio
routings..............come to think of it there is some kind of box out
there that runs VSTi's in real time. If this could accept a Magma host card
for live/no latency use of UAD-1 cards and POCO cards and other DSP based FW
interfaces, had a VGA output and, say 24 ADAT I/O, I'd find a way to snag
one.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4479df3b$1@linux...
>
> I was talking about people who are willing to use a VST host as their
primary
> app. For the routing madness that DJ and others do (PARIS as host/tracking
> app, VST host on other computer for f/x) probably the Pulsar mixer is a
better
> idea.
>
> TCB
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Thad,
> >That sounds like a routing mechanism that is easier to deal with to me.
> =
> >So you
> >think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted from the Paris-Cubase Loop using =
> >'VST mode'?
> >Insert the Pulsar softsynths/plugins as VSTs in Cubase? Will Pulsar =
> >still be doing the
> >number crunching onboard? Must be.
> >
> >Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar would be a submix withing Cubase =
> >which would be a=20
> >submix within Paris.
> >
> >I have to read more about Pulsar's implementation. Any good links guys?
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4479cdc4$1@linux...
> >
> > Also, for those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a =
> >'VST mode'
> > where the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
> >plug-ins.
> > In this case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
> >and
> > the f/x and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
> >That's
> > what has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
> >running
> > in Live.=20
> >
> > TCB
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >
> > >Dear Parisians...
> > >I will try to answer as much as I can...
> > >
> > >First of course there is full support under XP win98/Me etc...
> > >
> > >Latency with asio drivers is as low as 1.5 ms so Cubase SX or other =
> >app
> > can
> > >run along Pulsar.
> > >I use Cubase to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
> >inside
> > >Pulsar , you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices
> =
> >inside
> > >pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like Sony Oxford, =
> >use
> > mixer's
> > >inserts to use dsp plugins and then route to Paris.
> > >
> > >Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 sample going in 4 =
> >samples
> > >the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from adat pulsar out to adat
> =
> >Paris
> > >in.
> > >so 19 samples for normal pulsar routing from Paris and back again to
> =
> >Paris.
> > >Some plugins like SPL Transient designer (yes SPL has made the =
> >algorithm
> > >for Pulsar !!, it rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one
> =
> >and
> > >they sound about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.
> > >What I normally do is when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I =
> >use some
> > >fixed pluigins like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer
> =
> >and
> > >then a small free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a =
> >total
> > >of 80 samples !!
> > >yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE pARIS 1 ms back.
> > >Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 samples does need
> =
> >any
> > >nudging...
> > >
> > >Regarding ADAT sync YES there is a addon card that gets wordclock in
> =
> >out
> > >and adat sync.
> > >
> > >
> > >I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for your rig to use SX native =
> >plugins
> > >routing back and forth from/to Paris.
> > >Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior to RME cards.
> > >The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from anything out =
> >there,
> > and
> > >the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE !!
> > >You will be addicted and you would not won't go back...
> > >There is continuing support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along
> =
> >with
> > >asio drivers and you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers !!
> > >
> > >These new plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.
> > >I am in love with these new babies along with the older ones already
> =
> >there.
> > >There are many develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins =
> >have
> > >been ported to Pulsar too !!
> > >You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! TimeworksX compressor and many
> =
> >otehr
> > >from them for Pulsar.
> > >
> > >So here is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:
> > >
> > >You already Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right
> =
> >?
> > >you get Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs
> =
> >one
> > >spdif in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack =
> >that has
> > >Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) Mastereverb Pro
> =
> >and
> > >other great plugins as standard.
> > >
> > >If you use ADAT sync you get the sync addon card.
> > >
> > >The you are st to begin your great adventure.
> > >The benefits are tremendous , you will have these great dsp =
> >plugins/routing
> > >plus Cubase SX native routing from Paris to Pulsar to SX back to =
> >Pulsar
> > and
> > >back again to Paris.
> > >Isn't that a great trip ?
> > >regards,
> > >Dimitrios
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dimitrios,
> > >>Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
> > >>I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores =
> >etc.)
> > >=3D
> > >>which will
> > >>probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi =
> >in/out.
> > >>
> > >> OR
> > >>
> > >>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same =
> >box
> > >>and eliminate the RME card?
> > >>
> > >>If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
> >=3D
> > >>Cubase (internally)
> > >>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20
> > >>
> > >>Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending =
> >softsynths
> > =3D
> > >>to Paris also?
> > >>
> > >>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's =
> >softsynths
> > >=3D
> > >>and return everything to
> > >>Paris? =3D20
> > >>
> > >>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar =
> >plugins =3D
> > >>right? Close to the same=3D20
> > >>for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
> > >>
> > >>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins =
> >and
> > =3D
> > >>softsynths up
> > >>directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to
> =
> >=3D
> > >>Cubase right?
> > >>
> > >>One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20
> > >>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
> > >>
> > >>Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work
> =
> >=3D
> > >>(like DJs w/RME)?
> > >>
> > >>What do you use for sequencing?
> > >>
> > >>Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as =
> >large
> > >=3D
> > >>as Steinberg or RME?
> > >>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
> >=3D
> > >>Devices in R&D.
> > >>He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
> > >>
> > >>You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
> >=3D
> > >>program. I'd prefer
> > >>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
> >=3D
> > >>Pulsars' hardware
> > >>looks tough to beat for the cost.=3D20
> > >>
> > >>I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market =
> >for =3D
> > >>Pulsar hardware.
> > >>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for =
> >your =3D
> > >>response.
> > >>Tom=3D20
> > >>
> > >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
> > >>news:44788b63$1@linux...
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
> > >> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a =
> >hell of
> > >=3D
> > >>a
> > >> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
> > >> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
> > >> Hold your breath=3D20
> > >> SSL9000
> > >> Neve1084
> > >> Pultec
> > >> API 550
> > >> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
> > >> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what
> =
> >it
> > =3D
> > >>can
> > >> do to your mixes.
> > >> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
> > >>
> > >> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
> > >> Still with me ?
> > >>
> > >> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
> > >> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle =
> >with =3D
> > >>get them
> > >> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
> > >>
> > >> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones =
> >are =3D
> > >>dream
> > >> come true for me...
> > >>
> > >> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
> > >>
> > >> Tons of free ones.
> > >>
> > >> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat
> =
> >=3D
> > >>in/outs
> > >> are "oblidged" to take this route.
> > >> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all =
> >main
> > =3D
> > >>plugins
> > >> cost used around 400-500-600 $
> > >> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs =
> >plus
> > >=3D
> > >>a spdif
> > >> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi =
> >ins/outs
> > >>
> > >> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
> >=3D
> > >>$-1100$
> > >> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
> > >> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the =
> >nice
> > >=3D
> > >>Paris
> > >> eq...
> > >>
> > >> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two
> =
> >=3D
> > >>mecs two
> > >> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
> > >>
> > >> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system =
> >like DJ
> > >=3D
> > >>wants
> > >> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
> >=3D
> > >>already bought)
> > >> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with
> =
> >18
> > >=3D
> > >>dsp
> > >> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
> > >>
> > >> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
> > >> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp =
> >chips
> > =3D
> > >>!!!
> > >> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =3D
> > >>900$-1000-1100$
> > >> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
> > >> Ok back to reality...
> > >>
> > >> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and =
> >using =3D
> > >>some
> > >> great plugins as I mentioned.
> > >> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
> > >>
> > >> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dimitrios
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > >>
> > >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > >><HTML><HEAD>
> > >><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> > >>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > >><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> > >><STYLE></STYLE>
> > >></HEAD>
> > >><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite =
> >impressive! =3D
> > >>I have a=3D20
> > >>few questions.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing
> =
> >in a =3D
> > >>killer Cubase=3D20
> > >>rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card =
> >for 16 =3D
> > >>channels of=3D20
> > >>ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
> > >>size=3D3D2> &nbs=3D
> > >>p; =3D
> > >>; =3D
> > >> =3D20
> > >>OR</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX
> =
> >with a
> > >=3D
> > >>Pulsar Pro=3D20
> > >>card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME =3D
> > >>card?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so will this buy me the =
> >software =3D
> > >>power to run=3D20
> > >>Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via =
> >ADAT in
> > =3D
> > >>sync? =3D20
> > >></FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Process Paris tracks with =
> >plugins in =3D
> > >>realtime while=3D20
> > >>sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
> >=3D
> > >>to it's fullest=3D20
> > >>including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for =
> >Pulsar =3D
> > >>softsynths and 0=3D20
> > >>for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third =
> >party=3D20
> > >>softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar =
> >software mixers
> > >=3D
> > >>or can I=3D20
> > >>call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably =
> >have =3D
> > >>to use=3D20
> > >>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about
> =
> >how many
> > >=3D
> > >>voices of=3D20
> > >></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs =
> >and 2 or
> > =3D
> > >>three nice=3D20
> > >>comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make =
> >this =3D
> > >>proposed=3D20
> > >>system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for =3D
> > >>sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll
> =
> >be =3D
> > >>around for a=3D20
> > >>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =3D
> > >>RME?</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU =
> >syndrome=3D20
> > >>here.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A close friend of mine is =
> >employed here
> > >=3D
> > >>in=3D20
> > >>Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the =
> >Sharc=3D20
> > >>chips.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't =
> >want to
> > =3D
> > >>learn another=3D20
> > >>mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase
> =
> >like =3D
> > >>a UAD-1=3D20
> > >>card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for =
> >the=3D20
> > >>cost. </FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and =
> >also =3D
> > >>wondering about=3D20
> > >>the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll =
> >be paying
> > >=3D
> > >>very close=3D20
> > >>attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
> > >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> =
> >=3D
> > >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> > >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
> =
> >in =3D
> > >>message=3D20
> > >> <A=3D20
> > >> =3D
> > =
>
>>>href=3D3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
> >Hi,<=3D
> > >>BR>Pulsar=3D20
> > >> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the
> =
> >=3D
> > >>best synths=3D20
> > >> around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20
> > >> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for =
> >these=3D20
> > >> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath =
> ><BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20
> > >> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering =
> >dynamic
> > >=3D
> > >>EQ that=3D20
> > >> hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros =
> >could =3D
> > >>have=3D20
> > >> access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 =
> >channel=3D20
> > >> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =3D
> > >>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20
> > >> THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine
> =
> >=3D
> > >>something=3D20
> > >> around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all
> =
> >like
> > >=3D
> > >>500 $=3D20
> > >> or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
> >=3D
> > >>plugins out=3D20
> > >> there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =3D
> > >>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20
> > >> that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of
> =
> >free
> > >=3D
> > >>
> > >> ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS =
> >users
> > >=3D
> > >>with=3D20
> > >> adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are
> =
> >=3D
> > >>already=3D20
> > >> there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost =
> >used
> > >=3D
> > >>around=3D20
> > >> 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
> >adat
> > =3D
> > >>ins and=3D20
> > >> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out =
> >plus =3D
> > >>two (32)=3D20
> > >> midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon
> =
> >and
> > >=3D
> > >>for=3D20
> > >> around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =3D
> > >>fantastic=3D20
> > >> sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you
> =
> >will
> > >=3D
> > >>stop=3D20
> > >> using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least
> =
> >one
> > >=3D
> > >>mec and=3D20
> > >> one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two
> =
> >adat
> > >=3D
> > >>cards=3D20
> > >> under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =3D
> > >>ins/outs to=3D20
> > >> your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two =
> >Pulsar
> > =3D
> > >>cards=3D20
> > >> (your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $
> =
> >to
> > >=3D
> > >>have=3D20
> > >> full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as =
> >I=3D20
> > >> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are =
> >also =3D
> > >>super=3D20
> > >> Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are
> =
> >the
> > >=3D
> > >>same,=3D20
> > >> each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and =
> >with =3D
> > >>three=3D20
> > >> cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to =
> >reality...<BR><BR>One
> > >=3D
> > >>Pulsar=3D20
> > >> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
> >some<BR>great
> > >=3D
> > >>plugins=3D20
> > >> as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =3D
> > >>recording=3D20
> > >> platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20
> > >> interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
> > >><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> >spam, =3D
> > >>and=3D20
> > >>you?<BR><A=3D20
> > =
>
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> >efer=3D
> > >>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That sounds like a routing mechanism =
> >that is easier=20
> >to deal with to me. So you</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted =
> >from the=20
> >Paris-Cubase Loop using 'VST mode'?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Insert the Pulsar =
> >softsynths/plugins as VSTs=20
> >in Cubase? Will Pulsar still be doing the</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>number crunching onboard? Must=20
> >be.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar =
> >would be a=20
> >submix withing Cubase which would be a </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix within Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to read more about Pulsar's=20
> >implementation. Any good links guys?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"TCB" <<A =
> >href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"news:4479cdc4$1@linux">news:4479cdc4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Also=
> >, for=20
> > those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a 'VST =
> >mode'<BR>where=20
> > the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
> >plug-ins.<BR>In this=20
> > case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
> >and<BR>the f/x=20
> > and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
> >That's<BR>what=20
> > has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
> >running<BR>in=20
> > Live. <BR><BR>TCB<BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Parisians...<BR>>I will try to answer as =
> >much as=20
> > I can...<BR>><BR>>First of course there is full support under XP =
> >
> > win98/Me etc...<BR>><BR>>Latency with asio drivers is as low as =
> >1.5 ms=20
> > so Cubase SX or other app<BR>can<BR>>run along Pulsar.<BR>>I use =
> >Cubase=20
> > to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
> >inside<BR>>Pulsar ,=20
> > you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices=20
> > inside<BR>>pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like =
> >Sony=20
> > Oxford, use<BR>mixer's<BR>>inserts to use dsp plugins and then =
> >route to=20
> > Paris.<BR>><BR>>Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 =
> >sample=20
> > going in 4 samples<BR>>the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from =
> >adat=20
> > pulsar out to adat Paris<BR>>in.<BR>>so 19 samples for normal =
> >pulsar=20
> > routing from Paris and back again to Paris.<BR>>Some plugins like =
> >SPL=20
> > Transient designer (yes SPL has made the algorithm<BR>>for Pulsar =
> >!!, it=20
> > rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one and<BR>>they =
> >sound=20
> > about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.<BR>>What I normally =
> >do is=20
> > when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I use some<BR>>fixed =
> >pluigins=20
> > like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer and<BR>>then =
> >a small=20
> > free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a total<BR>>of =
> >80=20
> > samples !!<BR>>yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE =
> >pARIS 1 ms=20
> > back.<BR>>Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 =
> >samples =20
> > does need any<BR>>nudging...<BR>><BR>>Regarding ADAT sync YES =
> >there=20
> > is a addon card that gets wordclock in out<BR>>and adat=20
> > sync.<BR>><BR>><BR>>I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for =
> >your rig=20
> > to use SX native plugins<BR>>routing back and forth from/to=20
> > Paris.<BR>>Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior =
> >to RME=20
> > cards.<BR>>The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from =
> >anything out=20
> > there,<BR>and<BR>>the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE =
> >!!<BR>>You=20
> > will be addicted and you would not won't go back...<BR>>There is =
> >continuing=20
> > support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along with<BR>>asio =
> >drivers and=20
> > you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers =
> >!!<BR>><BR>>These new=20
> > plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.<BR>>I am in love with =
> >these new=20
> > babies along with the older ones already there.<BR>>There are many=20
> > develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins have<BR>>been =
> >ported=20
> > to Pulsar too !!<BR>>You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! =
> >TimeworksX=20
> > compressor and many otehr<BR>>from them for =
> >Pulsar.<BR>><BR>>So here=20
> > is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:<BR>><BR>>You =
> >already=20
> > Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right ?<BR>>you =
> >get=20
> > Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs =
> >one<BR>>spdif=20
> > in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack that=20
> > has<BR>>Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) =
> >Mastereverb=20
> > Pro and<BR>>other great plugins as standard.<BR>><BR>>If you =
> >use ADAT=20
> > sync you get the sync addon card.<BR>><BR>>The you are st to =
> >begin your=20
> > great adventure.<BR>>The benefits are tremendous , you will have =
> >these=20
> > great dsp plugins/routing<BR>>plus Cubase SX native routing from =
> >Paris to=20
> > Pulsar to SX back to Pulsar<BR>and<BR>>back again to =
> >Paris.<BR>>Isn't=20
> > that a great trip=20
> > ?<BR>>regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>"Tom =
> >Bruhl"=20
> > <<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
> >
> > wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Scope =
> >pro=20
> > looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.<BR>>>I am =
> >on the=20
> > brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores=20
> > etc.)<BR>>=3D<BR>>>which will<BR>>>probably include an =
> >RME card=20
> > for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi=20
> > =
> >in/out.<BR>>><BR>>> =
> > &=
> >nbsp; &n=
> >bsp; =20
> > OR<BR>>><BR>>>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a =
> >Pulsar Pro=20
> > card in the same box<BR>>>and eliminate the RME=20
> > card?<BR>>><BR>>>If so will this buy me the software power =
> >to run=20
> > Pulsar plugins in =3D<BR>>>Cubase (internally)<BR>>>and =
> >route in/out=20
> > to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Process Paris =
> >tracks=20
> > with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths<BR>=3D<BR>>>to =
> >Paris=20
> > also?<BR>>><BR>>>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's =
> >fullest=20
> > including it's softsynths<BR>>=3D<BR>>>and return everything=20
> > to<BR>>>Paris? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Latency equaling =
> >1.5ms for=20
> > Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =3D<BR>>>right? =
> >Close to=20
> > the same=3D20<BR>>>for Cubase and it's third party=20
> > softsynths?<BR>>><BR>>>Do I need to run Pulsar software =
> >mixers or=20
> > can I call it's plugins and<BR>=3D<BR>>>softsynths =
> >up<BR>>>directly=20
> > in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to=20
> > =3D<BR>>>Cubase right?<BR>>><BR>>>One Pro card would =
> >allow=20
> > about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20<BR>>>How about a few =
> >nice=20
> > reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with =
> >that?<BR>>><BR>>>Any crazy=20
> > workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
> >=3D<BR>>>(like=20
> > DJs w/RME)?<BR>>><BR>>>What do you use for=20
> > sequencing?<BR>>><BR>>>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
> >around=20
> > for a while? Are they as large<BR>>=3D<BR>>>as =
> >Steinberg or=20
> > RME?<BR>>>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
> > here.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>A close friend of mine is =
> >employed=20
> > here in Massachusetts by Analog =3D<BR>>>Devices in =
> >R&D.<BR>>>He=20
> > speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.<BR>>><BR>>>You can =
> >probably=20
> > tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
> >=3D<BR>>>program. =20
> > I'd prefer<BR>>>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card =
> >with=20
> > softsynths. =3D<BR>>>Pulsars' hardware<BR>>>looks =
> >tough to=20
> > beat for the cost.=3D20<BR>>><BR>>>I'm seriously =
> >interested and also=20
> > wondering about the used market for =3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> > hardware.<BR>>>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very =
> >close=20
> > attention for your=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>>response.<BR>>>Tom=3D20<BR>>><BR>>> =
> >;=20
> > "Dimitrios" <<A =
> >href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> > wrote in message=20
> > =3D<BR>>>news:44788b63$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> > Hi,<BR>>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp=20
> > system.<BR>>> Except for the best synths around=20
> > (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell =
> >of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a<BR>>> =20
> > PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT<BR>>> Now a new company has =
> >produced new=20
> > plugz for these beasts.<BR>>> Hold your=20
> > breath=3D20<BR>>> SSL9000<BR>>> =20
> > Neve1084<BR>>> Pultec<BR>>> API =
> >550<BR>>> =20
> > RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>>> and an exceptional mastering =
> >dynamic=20
> > EQ that hard to believe what =
> >it<BR>=3D<BR>>>can<BR>>> do to=20
> > your mixes.<BR>>> Only pros could have access to beats =
> >like these=20
> > !<BR>>><BR>>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel =
> >eq/dymanics =20
> > emulator also announced.<BR>>> Still with me=20
> > ?<BR>>><BR>>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE =
> >PRICES WILL=20
> > BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ =
> >each main=20
> > plugin and a bundle with =3D<BR>>>get them<BR>>> all =
> >like 500=20
> > $ or something,prices yet to be =
> >anounced.<BR>>><BR>>> I have=20
> > tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are=20
> > =3D<BR>>>dream<BR>>> come true for=20
> > me...<BR>>><BR>>> Note that already there is Vinco =
> >(1176=20
> > comp emulation).<BR>>><BR>>> Tons of free=20
> > ones.<BR>>><BR>>> I would not scream so loud so many =
> >times=20
> > but PaRIS users with adat =3D<BR>>>in/outs<BR>>> are =
> >
> > "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>>> Ok UAD1 are already =
> >there but=20
> > a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all=20
> > main<BR>=3D<BR>>>plugins<BR>>> cost used around =
> >400-500-600=20
> > $<BR>>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
> >adat ins=20
> > and outs plus<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a spdif<BR>>> in and =
> >out plus 2=20
> > analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi=20
> > ins/outs<BR>>><BR>>> Now consider the above new =
> >plugins buy=20
> > addon and for around 1000 =3D<BR>>>$-1100$<BR>>> you =
> >will have=20
> > a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.<BR>>> =
> >If you=20
> > here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the=20
> > nice<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Paris<BR>>> =20
> > eq...<BR>>><BR>>> Well you would need at least one =
> >mec and=20
> > one adat card or best two =3D<BR>>>mecs two<BR>>> =
> >adat cards ,=20
> > or one mec two adat cards under Me =
> >(win98)<BR>>><BR>>> Now=20
> > if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like=20
> > DJ<BR>>=3D<BR>>>wants<BR>>> (me too) you can buy =
> >another=20
> > two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =3D<BR>>>already=20
> > bought)<BR>>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full =
> >three=20
> > pulsar cards with 18<BR>>=3D<BR>>>dsp<BR>>> chips =
> >!!! and=20
> > be happy as I am...<BR>>><BR>>> well there is the =
> >"Kingsize"=20
> > option.<BR>>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there =
> >each=20
> > having 15 dsp chips<BR>=3D<BR>>>!!!<BR>>> In outs =
> >are the=20
> > same, each card can be bought for around=20
> > =3D<BR>>>900$-1000-1100$<BR>>> used and with three =
> >cards you=20
> > can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>>> Ok back to=20
> > reality...<BR>>><BR>>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps =
> >is=20
> > adequate for mixing a song and using =
> >=3D<BR>>>some<BR>>> great=20
> > plugins as I mentioned.<BR>>> The same card can be =
> >configured for=20
> > a synth recording platforma...<BR>>><BR>>> I am =
> >happy to say=20
> > more if I see anyone interested...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> > Regards,<BR>>> =20
> > Dimitrios<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>I choose =
> >Polesoft=20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> > you?<BR>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > <BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
> >
> > =
> >Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=
> >META=20
> > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > =3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =
> >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > =
> >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=
> ></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
> > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> > =
> >size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=
> >lt;FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =20
> > =3D<BR>>>I have a=3D20<BR>>>few=20
> > questions.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a=20
> > =3D<BR>>>killer Cubase=3D20<BR>>>rig (dual cores etc.) =
> >which=20
> > will</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
> >=3D<BR>>>channels=20
> > of=3D20<BR>>>ADAT and Midi=20
> > in/out.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > =
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>>size=3D3D2> &nbs=
> >p; =20
> > =
> >&nbs=3D<BR>>>p; =
> > =20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>>; &nb=
> >sp; =20
> > =3D<BR>>> =20
> > =
> >=3D20<BR>>>OR</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FO=
> >NT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Can I=20
> > continue to use Cubase SX with a<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> > Pro=3D20<BR>>>card in the same=20
> > box</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>>card?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><F=
> >ONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>If so=20
> > will this buy me the software =3D<BR>>>power to =
> >run=3D20<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> > plugins in Cubase=20
> > (internally)</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT=20
> > in<BR>=3D<BR>>>sync?=20
> > =
> >=3D20<BR>>></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=
> >=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Process=20
> > Paris tracks with plugins in =3D<BR>>>realtime =
> >while=3D20<BR>>>sending=20
> > softsynths to Paris=20
> > also?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
> >=3D<BR>>>to it's=20
> > fullest=3D20<BR>>>including it's softsynths and return =
> >everything=20
> > to</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Paris? =20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar=20
> > =3D<BR>>>softsynths and 0=3D20<BR>>>for Pulsar plugins =
> >right? =20
> > Close to the same =
> ></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third=20
> > =
> >party=3D20<BR>>>softsynths?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><=
> >;DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Do I need=20
> > to run Pulsar software mixers<BR>>=3D<BR>>>or can =
> >I=3D20<BR>>>call=20
> > it's plugins and softsynths=20
> > up</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
> >=3D<BR>>>to=20
> > use=3D20<BR>>>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase=20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about how=20
> > many<BR>>=3D<BR>>>voices =
> >of=3D20<BR>>></FONT><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. =20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 =
> >or<BR>=3D<BR>>>three=20
> > nice=3D20<BR>>>comps with=20
> > that?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this=20
> > =3D<BR>>>proposed=3D20<BR>>>system with Pulsar work (like =
> >DJs=20
> > w/RME)?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>>sequencing?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=
> >;<FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Is=20
> > Creamware a company that'll be =3D<BR>>>around for=20
> > a=3D20<BR>>>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>>RME?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FO=
> >NT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU=20
> > =
> >syndrome=3D20<BR>>>here.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DI=
> >V><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>A close=20
> > friend of mine is employed=20
> > here<BR>>=3D<BR>>>in=3D20<BR>>>Massachusetts by Analog =
> >Devices in=20
> > R&D.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the=20
> > =
> >Sharc=3D20<BR>>>chips.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV&=
> >gt;<FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >
> > size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't want =
> >to<BR>=3D<BR>>>learn=20
> > another=3D20<BR>>>mixer/software program. I'd=20
> > prefer</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =3D<BR>>>a=20
> > UAD-1=3D20<BR>>>card with softsynths. Pulsars'=20
> > hardware</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for the=3D20<BR>>>cost.=20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and also=20
> > =3D<BR>>>wondering about=3D20<BR>>>the used market for =
> >Pulsar=20
> > hardware.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be =
> >paying<BR>>=3D<BR>>>very=20
> > close=3D20<BR>>>attention for your=20
> > response.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Tom =
> ></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > =
> ></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING=
> >-RIGHT:=20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
> >#000000=20
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> >lt;BR>Hi</A>,<=3D<BR>>>BR>Pulsar=3D20<BR>>> =20
> > as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for =
> >the=20
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> >(Moogs,Prophets,etc) it=20
> > is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20<BR>>> =20
> > ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for=20
> > these=3D20<BR>>> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath=20
> > =
> ><BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20<BR>=
> >>> =20
> > 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional =
> >mastering=20
> > dynamic<BR>>=3D<BR>>>EQ that=3D20<BR>>> hard to =
> >believe what=20
> > it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could=20
> > =3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> access to beats like these=20
> > !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=3D20<BR>>> =
> >
> > eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me=20
> > =3D<BR>>>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20<BR>>> THE =
> >MOST=20
> > INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine=20
> > =3D<BR>>>something=3D20<BR>>> around 60-70 $ each =
> >main plugin=20
> > and a bundle with get them<BR>all like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>500 =
> >
> > $=3D20<BR>>> or something,prices yet to be=20
> > anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =3D<BR>>>plugins=20
> > out=3D20<BR>>> there , believe me these new ones are=20
> > dream<BR>come true for=20
> > =3D<BR>>>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> =
> >that already=20
> > there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of=20
> > free<BR>>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =
> >ones.<BR><BR>I would=20
> > not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS=20
> > users<BR>>=3D<BR>>>with=3D20<BR>>> adat =
> >in/outs<BR>are=20
> > "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are=20
> > =3D<BR>>>already=3D20<BR>>> there but a Pulsar card =
> >with 6 dsps=20
> > and all main plugins<BR>cost=20
> > used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>around=3D20<BR>>> 400-500-600 =
> >$<BR>So=20
> > with normal classic option you will have 16 adat<BR>=3D<BR>>>ins =
> >
> > and=3D20<BR>>> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus =
> >2 analog=20
> > 24/96 in and out plus =3D<BR>>>two (32)=3D20<BR>>> =
> >midi=20
> > ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy =
> >addon=20
> > and<BR>>=3D<BR>>>for=3D20<BR>>> around 1000=20
> > $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of=20
> > =3D<BR>>>fantastic=3D20<BR>>> sounding =
> >plugins.<BR>If you=20
> > here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you=20
> > will<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stop=3D20<BR>>> using the nice=20
> > Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least=20
> > one<BR>>=3D<BR>>>mec and=3D20<BR>>> one adat card =
> >or best two=20
> > mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two=20
> > adat<BR>>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> under Me=20
> > (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat=20
> > =3D<BR>>>ins/outs to=3D20<BR>>> your system like DJ=20
> > wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two=20
> > Pulsar<BR>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> (your plugins =
> >are already=20
> > bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $=20
> > to<BR>>=3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> full three pulsar =
> >cards with=20
> > 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=3D20<BR>>> =20
> > am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" =
> >option.<BR>there=20
> > are also =3D<BR>>>super=3D20<BR>>> Pulsar cards out =
> >there each=20
> > having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are=20
> > the<BR>>=3D<BR>>>same,=3D20<BR>>> each card can =
> >be bought for=20
> > around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with=20
> > =3D<BR>>>three=3D20<BR>>> cards you can have 45 dsps =
> >
> > !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to=20
> > =
> >reality...<BR><BR>One<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=3D20<BR>&g=
> >t;> =20
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> >platforma...<BR><BR>I=20
> > am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20<BR>>> =20
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| Re: NOW-its_time_to_ADD_PULSAR_to_PARIS_here_why [message #68732 is a reply to message #68727] |
Sun, 28 May 2006 13:09 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Hi,
Pulsar's environement the "scope" as they call it is the one you WANNA use
and not avoid.
Latency within pulsar is around 20 samples including adat in/out.
You can wire in and out whatever you can think off like adat ins /outs to
from mixers ins/outs to effects ins outs to/from ASIO ins/outs whatever you
can imagine and stay with 32 bit fixed not floating "fixed" meaning true
32bits as opposed to 32bit floating which is 24bits actually.
Just pristine audio no matter whatever routings you take or give...
You can ofcourse use Pulsar cards without the "scope"environement like RME
cards but what is the point of doing that ?
Missing all that great routings and dsp effects ?
go to:
www.planetz.com/forums
And read your heart's out !!
You will be needing days and days of reading there...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Thad,
>That sounds like a routing mechanism that is easier to deal with to me.
=
>So you
>think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted from the Paris-Cubase Loop using =
>'VST mode'?
>Insert the Pulsar softsynths/plugins as VSTs in Cubase? Will Pulsar =
>still be doing the
>number crunching onboard? Must be.
>
>Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar would be a submix withing Cubase =
>which would be a=20
>submix within Paris.
>
>I have to read more about Pulsar's implementation. Any good links guys?
>Tom
>
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4479cdc4$1@linux...
>
> Also, for those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a =
>'VST mode'
> where the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
>plug-ins.
> In this case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
>and
> the f/x and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
>That's
> what has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
>running
> in Live.=20
>
> TCB
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >
> >Dear Parisians...
> >I will try to answer as much as I can...
> >
> >First of course there is full support under XP win98/Me etc...
> >
> >Latency with asio drivers is as low as 1.5 ms so Cubase SX or other =
>app
> can
> >run along Pulsar.
> >I use Cubase to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
>inside
> >Pulsar , you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices
=
>inside
> >pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like Sony Oxford, =
>use
> mixer's
> >inserts to use dsp plugins and then route to Paris.
> >
> >Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 sample going in 4 =
>samples
> >the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from adat pulsar out to adat
=
>Paris
> >in.
> >so 19 samples for normal pulsar routing from Paris and back again to
=
>Paris.
> >Some plugins like SPL Transient designer (yes SPL has made the =
>algorithm
> >for Pulsar !!, it rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one
=
>and
> >they sound about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.
> >What I normally do is when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I =
>use some
> >fixed pluigins like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer
=
>and
> >then a small free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a =
>total
> >of 80 samples !!
> >yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE pARIS 1 ms back.
> >Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 samples does need
=
>any
> >nudging...
> >
> >Regarding ADAT sync YES there is a addon card that gets wordclock in
=
>out
> >and adat sync.
> >
> >
> >I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for your rig to use SX native =
>plugins
> >routing back and forth from/to Paris.
> >Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior to RME cards.
> >The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from anything out =
>there,
> and
> >the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE !!
> >You will be addicted and you would not won't go back...
> >There is continuing support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along
=
>with
> >asio drivers and you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers !!
> >
> >These new plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.
> >I am in love with these new babies along with the older ones already
=
>there.
> >There are many develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins =
>have
> >been ported to Pulsar too !!
> >You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! TimeworksX compressor and many
=
>otehr
> >from them for Pulsar.
> >
> >So here is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:
> >
> >You already Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right
=
>?
> >you get Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs
=
>one
> >spdif in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack =
>that has
> >Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) Mastereverb Pro
=
>and
> >other great plugins as standard.
> >
> >If you use ADAT sync you get the sync addon card.
> >
> >The you are st to begin your great adventure.
> >The benefits are tremendous , you will have these great dsp =
>plugins/routing
> >plus Cubase SX native routing from Paris to Pulsar to SX back to =
>Pulsar
> and
> >back again to Paris.
> >Isn't that a great trip ?
> >regards,
> >Dimitrios
> >
> >
> >
> >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Dimitrios,
> >>Scope pro looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.
> >>I am on the brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores =
>etc.)
> >=3D
> >>which will
> >>probably include an RME card for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi =
>in/out.
> >>
> >> OR
> >>
> >>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a Pulsar Pro card in the same =
>box
> >>and eliminate the RME card?
> >>
> >>If so will this buy me the software power to run Pulsar plugins in =
>=3D
> >>Cubase (internally)
> >>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20
> >>
> >>Process Paris tracks with plugins in realtime while sending =
>softsynths
> =3D
> >>to Paris also?
> >>
> >>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's fullest including it's =
>softsynths
> >=3D
> >>and return everything to
> >>Paris? =3D20
> >>
> >>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar =
>plugins =3D
> >>right? Close to the same=3D20
> >>for Cubase and it's third party softsynths?
> >>
> >>Do I need to run Pulsar software mixers or can I call it's plugins =
>and
> =3D
> >>softsynths up
> >>directly in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to
=
>=3D
> >>Cubase right?
> >>
> >>One Pro card would allow about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20
> >>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with that?
> >>
> >>Any crazy workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work
=
>=3D
> >>(like DJs w/RME)?
> >>
> >>What do you use for sequencing?
> >>
> >>Is Creamware a company that'll be around for a while? Are they as =
>large
> >=3D
> >>as Steinberg or RME?
> >>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome here.
> >>
> >>
> >>A close friend of mine is employed here in Massachusetts by Analog =
>=3D
> >>Devices in R&D.
> >>He speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.
> >>
> >>You can probably tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
>=3D
> >>program. I'd prefer
> >>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card with softsynths. =
>=3D
> >>Pulsars' hardware
> >>looks tough to beat for the cost.=3D20
> >>
> >>I'm seriously interested and also wondering about the used market =
>for =3D
> >>Pulsar hardware.
> >>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very close attention for =
>your =3D
> >>response.
> >>Tom=3D20
> >>
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
> >>news:44788b63$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
> >> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a =
>hell of
> >=3D
> >>a
> >> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
> >> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
> >> Hold your breath=3D20
> >> SSL9000
> >> Neve1084
> >> Pultec
> >> API 550
> >> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
> >> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what
=
>it
> =3D
> >>can
> >> do to your mixes.
> >> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
> >>
> >> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
> >> Still with me ?
> >>
> >> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
> >> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle =
>with =3D
> >>get them
> >> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
> >>
> >> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones =
>are =3D
> >>dream
> >> come true for me...
> >>
> >> Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
> >>
> >> Tons of free ones.
> >>
> >> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat
=
>=3D
> >>in/outs
> >> are "oblidged" to take this route.
> >> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all =
>main
> =3D
> >>plugins
> >> cost used around 400-500-600 $
> >> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs =
>plus
> >=3D
> >>a spdif
> >> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi =
>ins/outs
> >>
> >> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 =
>=3D
> >>$-1100$
> >> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
> >> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the =
>nice
> >=3D
> >>Paris
> >> eq...
> >>
> >> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two
=
>=3D
> >>mecs two
> >> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
> >>
> >> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system =
>like DJ
> >=3D
> >>wants
> >> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =
>=3D
> >>already bought)
> >> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with
=
>18
> >=3D
> >>dsp
> >> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
> >>
> >> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
> >> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp =
>chips
> =3D
> >>!!!
> >> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around =3D
> >>900$-1000-1100$
> >> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
> >> Ok back to reality...
> >>
> >> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and =
>using =3D
> >>some
> >> great plugins as I mentioned.
> >> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
> >>
> >> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >>
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> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite =
>impressive! =3D
> >>I have a=3D20
> >>few questions.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing
=
>in a =3D
> >>killer Cubase=3D20
> >>rig (dual cores etc.) which will</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card =
>for 16 =3D
> >>channels of=3D20
> >>ADAT and Midi in/out.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >>size=3D3D2> &nbs=3D
> >>p; =3D
> >>; =3D
> >> =3D20
> >>OR</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I continue to use Cubase SX
=
>with a
> >=3D
> >>Pulsar Pro=3D20
> >>card in the same box</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME =3D
> >>card?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so will this buy me the =
>software =3D
> >>power to run=3D20
> >>Pulsar plugins in Cubase (internally)</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via =
>ADAT in
> =3D
> >>sync? =3D20
> >></FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Process Paris tracks with =
>plugins in =3D
> >>realtime while=3D20
> >>sending softsynths to Paris also?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
>=3D
> >>to it's fullest=3D20
> >>including it's softsynths and return everything to</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris? </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for =
>Pulsar =3D
> >>softsynths and 0=3D20
> >>for Pulsar plugins right? Close to the same </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third =
>party=3D20
> >>softsynths?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Do I need to run Pulsar =
>software mixers
> >=3D
> >>or can I=3D20
> >>call it's plugins and softsynths up</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably =
>have =3D
> >>to use=3D20
> >>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase right?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about
=
>how many
> >=3D
> >>voices of=3D20
> >></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs =
>and 2 or
> =3D
> >>three nice=3D20
> >>comps with that?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make =
>this =3D
> >>proposed=3D20
> >>system with Pulsar work (like DJs w/RME)?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for =3D
> >>sequencing?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Is Creamware a company that'll
=
>be =3D
> >>around for a=3D20
> >>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or =3D
> >>RME?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU =
>syndrome=3D20
> >>here.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A close friend of mine is =
>employed here
> >=3D
> >>in=3D20
> >>Massachusetts by Analog Devices in R&D.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the =
>Sharc=3D20
> >>chips.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't =
>want to
> =3D
> >>learn another=3D20
> >>mixer/software program. I'd prefer</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase
=
>like =3D
> >>a UAD-1=3D20
> >>card with softsynths. Pulsars' hardware</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for =
>the=3D20
> >>cost. </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and =
>also =3D
> >>wondering about=3D20
> >>the used market for Pulsar hardware.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll =
>be paying
> >=3D
> >>very close=3D20
> >>attention for your response.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Hi,<=3D
> >>BR>Pulsar=3D20
> >> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for the
=
>=3D
> >>best synths=3D20
> >> around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20
> >> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for =
>these=3D20
> >> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath =
><BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20
> >> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional mastering =
>dynamic
> >=3D
> >>EQ that=3D20
> >> hard to believe what it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros =
>could =3D
> >>have=3D20
> >> access to beats like these !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 =
>channel=3D20
> >> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me =3D
> >>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20
> >> THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine
=
>=3D
> >>something=3D20
> >> around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them<BR>all
=
>like
> >=3D
> >>500 $=3D20
> >> or something,prices yet to be anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =
>=3D
> >>plugins out=3D20
> >> there , believe me these new ones are dream<BR>come true for =3D
> >>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20
> >> that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of
=
>free
> >=3D
> >>
> >> ones.<BR><BR>I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS =
>users
> >=3D
> >>with=3D20
> >> adat in/outs<BR>are "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are
=
>=3D
> >>already=3D20
> >> there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins<BR>cost =
>used
> >=3D
> >>around=3D20
> >> 400-500-600 $<BR>So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
>adat
> =3D
> >>ins and=3D20
> >> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out =
>plus =3D
> >>two (32)=3D20
> >> midi ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy addon
=
>and
> >=3D
> >>for=3D20
> >> around 1000 $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of =3D
> >>fantastic=3D20
> >> sounding plugins.<BR>If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you
=
>will
> >=3D
> >>stop=3D20
> >> using the nice Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least
=
>one
> >=3D
> >>mec and=3D20
> >> one adat card or best two mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two
=
>adat
> >=3D
> >>cards=3D20
> >> under Me (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat =3D
> >>ins/outs to=3D20
> >> your system like DJ wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two =
>Pulsar
> =3D
> >>cards=3D20
> >> (your plugins are already bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $
=
>to
> >=3D
> >>have=3D20
> >> full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as =
>I=3D20
> >> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" option.<BR>there are =
>also =3D
> >>super=3D20
> >> Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are
=
>the
> >=3D
> >>same,=3D20
> >> each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and =
>with =3D
> >>three=3D20
> >> cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to =
>reality...<BR><BR>One
> >=3D
> >>Pulsar=3D20
> >> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using =
>some<BR>great
> >=3D
> >>plugins=3D20
> >> as I mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth =3D
> >>recording=3D20
> >> platforma...<BR><BR>I am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20
> >> interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE >
> >><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >>and=3D20
> >>you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/r=
>efer=3D
> >>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >>
> >>
> >
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That sounds like a routing mechanism =
>that is easier=20
>to deal with to me. So you</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>think the Pulsar mixer can be omitted =
>from the=20
>Paris-Cubase Loop using 'VST mode'?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Insert the Pulsar =
>softsynths/plugins as VSTs=20
>in Cubase? Will Pulsar still be doing the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>number crunching onboard? Must=20
>be.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Otherwise from what I gather, Pulsar =
>would be a=20
>submix withing Cubase which would be a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix within Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to read more about Pulsar's=20
>implementation. Any good links guys?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"TCB" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:4479cdc4$1@linux">news:4479cdc4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Also=
>, for=20
> those of you not completely married to PARIS Pulsar has a 'VST =
>mode'<BR>where=20
> the effects can be used directly in apps that support VST =
>plug-ins.<BR>In this=20
> case all of the latency compensation is done by the host app =
>and<BR>the f/x=20
> and instruments can be dropped in like any other VST effect. =
>That's<BR>what=20
> has _me_ looking at Pulsar--all those yummy John Bowen synths =
>running<BR>in=20
> Live. <BR><BR>TCB<BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Parisians...<BR>>I will try to answer as =
>much as=20
> I can...<BR>><BR>>First of course there is full support under XP =
>
> win98/Me etc...<BR>><BR>>Latency with asio drivers is as low as =
>1.5 ms=20
> so Cubase SX or other app<BR>can<BR>>run along Pulsar.<BR>>I use =
>Cubase=20
> to run vsti instruments use 32bit Asio driver devices =
>inside<BR>>Pulsar ,=20
> you can have up to 64 !!! yes 64 asio 32bit floating devices=20
> inside<BR>>pulsar then use Pulsar mixers ,and what mixers !! like =
>Sony=20
> Oxford, use<BR>mixer's<BR>>inserts to use dsp plugins and then =
>route to=20
> Paris.<BR>><BR>>Routing from Paris adat out inside Pulsar is 7,5 =
>sample=20
> going in 4 samples<BR>>the pulsar mixer and another 7,5 sample from =
>adat=20
> pulsar out to adat Paris<BR>>in.<BR>>so 19 samples for normal =
>pulsar=20
> routing from Paris and back again to Paris.<BR>>Some plugins like =
>SPL=20
> Transient designer (yes SPL has made the algorithm<BR>>for Pulsar =
>!!, it=20
> rocks , I have both the hardware and the pulsar one and<BR>>they =
>sound=20
> about the same !!, this has 39 samples latency.<BR>>What I normally =
>do is=20
> when routing from Paris to pulsar via adat I use some<BR>>fixed =
>pluigins=20
> like Vinco (1176 ) compressor, SPL transient designer and<BR>>then =
>a small=20
> free millidelay plugin to delay further for exactly a total<BR>>of =
>80=20
> samples !!<BR>>yOU KNOW WHY RIGHT ?, TO NUDGE THE TRACK INSIDE =
>pARIS 1 ms=20
> back.<BR>>Anyway the delay is very minimal the normal 19-20 =
>samples =20
> does need any<BR>>nudging...<BR>><BR>>Regarding ADAT sync YES =
>there=20
> is a addon card that gets wordclock in out<BR>>and adat=20
> sync.<BR>><BR>><BR>>I would wholeheartly suggest Pulsar for =
>your rig=20
> to use SX native plugins<BR>>routing back and forth from/to=20
> Paris.<BR>>Pulsar according to my oppinion ,at least, is superior =
>to RME=20
> cards.<BR>>The dsp environement is the most sophisticated from =
>anything out=20
> there,<BR>and<BR>>the loving factor, like in pARIS ,IS HUGE =
>!!<BR>>You=20
> will be addicted and you would not won't go back...<BR>>There is =
>continuing=20
> support for drivers , they have WDM drivers along with<BR>>asio =
>drivers and=20
> you can have wdm drivewrs along with asio drivers =
>!!<BR>><BR>>These new=20
> plugins -emulators are a word class stuff.<BR>>I am in love with =
>these new=20
> babies along with the older ones already there.<BR>>There are many=20
> develoipers for Pulsar , NOTE that Timeworks plugins have<BR>>been =
>ported=20
> to Pulsar too !!<BR>>You can have Timeworks 4080 reverrb ! =
>TimeworksX=20
> compressor and many otehr<BR>>from them for =
>Pulsar.<BR>><BR>>So here=20
> is the minimal standard scenario for Pulsar-Paris:<BR>><BR>>You =
>already=20
> Have Paris and one Mec with at least one adat card, right ?<BR>>you =
>get=20
> Pulsar 6 dsp card -classic option which has 16 adat ins/outs =
>one<BR>>spdif=20
> in/out and two midi in/outs with studio/effects plugin pack that=20
> has<BR>>Vinco (1176) Graphic eq, mPSYQ (BBE sonic maximizer) =
>Mastereverb=20
> Pro and<BR>>other great plugins as standard.<BR>><BR>>If you =
>use ADAT=20
> sync you get the sync addon card.<BR>><BR>>The you are st to =
>begin your=20
> great adventure.<BR>>The benefits are tremendous , you will have =
>these=20
> great dsp plugins/routing<BR>>plus Cubase SX native routing from =
>Paris to=20
> Pulsar to SX back to Pulsar<BR>and<BR>>back again to =
>Paris.<BR>>Isn't=20
> that a great trip=20
> ?<BR>>regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Scope =
>pro=20
> looks quite impressive! I have a few questions.<BR>>>I am =
>on the=20
> brink of investing in a killer Cubase rig (dual cores=20
> etc.)<BR>>=3D<BR>>>which will<BR>>>probably include an =
>RME card=20
> for 16 channels of ADAT and Midi=20
> =
>in/out.<BR>>><BR>>> =
> &=
>nbsp; &n=
>bsp; =20
> OR<BR>>><BR>>>Can I continue to use Cubase SX with a =
>Pulsar Pro=20
> card in the same box<BR>>>and eliminate the RME=20
> card?<BR>>><BR>>>If so will this buy me the software power =
>to run=20
> Pulsar plugins in =3D<BR>>>Cubase (internally)<BR>>>and =
>route in/out=20
> to Paris via ADAT in sync? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Process Paris =
>tracks=20
> with plugins in realtime while sending softsynths<BR>=3D<BR>>>to =
>Paris=20
> also?<BR>>><BR>>>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI to it's =
>fullest=20
> including it's softsynths<BR>>=3D<BR>>>and return everything=20
> to<BR>>>Paris? =3D20<BR>>><BR>>>Latency equaling =
>1.5ms for=20
> Pulsar softsynths and 0 for Pulsar plugins =3D<BR>>>right? =
>Close to=20
> the same=3D20<BR>>>for Cubase and it's third party=20
> softsynths?<BR>>><BR>>>Do I need to run Pulsar software =
>mixers or=20
> can I call it's plugins and<BR>=3D<BR>>>softsynths =
>up<BR>>>directly=20
> in Cubase? Probably have to use Pulsars patchbay to get to=20
> =3D<BR>>>Cubase right?<BR>>><BR>>>One Pro card would =
>allow=20
> about how many voices of softsynths. =3D20<BR>>>How about a few =
>nice=20
> reverbs and 2 or three nice comps with =
>that?<BR>>><BR>>>Any crazy=20
> workarounds to make this proposed system with Pulsar work =
>=3D<BR>>>(like=20
> DJs w/RME)?<BR>>><BR>>>What do you use for=20
> sequencing?<BR>>><BR>>>Is Creamware a company that'll be =
>around=20
> for a while? Are they as large<BR>>=3D<BR>>>as =
>Steinberg or=20
> RME?<BR>>>I'm worried about the EMU syndrome=20
> here.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>A close friend of mine is =
>employed=20
> here in Massachusetts by Analog =3D<BR>>>Devices in =
>R&D.<BR>>>He=20
> speaks very highly of the Sharc chips.<BR>>><BR>>>You can =
>probably=20
> tell I don't want to learn another mixer/software =
>=3D<BR>>>program. =20
> I'd prefer<BR>>>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like a UAD-1 card =
>with=20
> softsynths. =3D<BR>>>Pulsars' hardware<BR>>>looks =
>tough to=20
> beat for the cost.=3D20<BR>>><BR>>>I'm seriously =
>interested and also=20
> wondering about the used market for =3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> hardware.<BR>>>Thanks for this post and I'll be paying very =
>close=20
> attention for your=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>response.<BR>>>Tom=3D20<BR>>><BR>>> =
>;=20
> "Dimitrios" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote in message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:44788b63$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> Hi,<BR>>> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp=20
> system.<BR>>> Except for the best synths around=20
> (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell =
>of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a<BR>>> =20
> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT<BR>>> Now a new company has =
>produced new=20
> plugz for these beasts.<BR>>> Hold your=20
> breath=3D20<BR>>> SSL9000<BR>>> =20
> Neve1084<BR>>> Pultec<BR>>> API =
>550<BR>>> =20
> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>>> and an exceptional mastering =
>dynamic=20
> EQ that hard to believe what =
>it<BR>=3D<BR>>>can<BR>>> do to=20
> your mixes.<BR>>> Only pros could have access to beats =
>like these=20
> !<BR>>><BR>>> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel =
>eq/dymanics =20
> emulator also announced.<BR>>> Still with me=20
> ?<BR>>><BR>>> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE =
>PRICES WILL=20
> BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>>> Imagine something around 60-70 $ =
>each main=20
> plugin and a bundle with =3D<BR>>>get them<BR>>> all =
>like 500=20
> $ or something,prices yet to be =
>anounced.<BR>>><BR>>> I have=20
> tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are=20
> =3D<BR>>>dream<BR>>> come true for=20
> me...<BR>>><BR>>> Note that already there is Vinco =
>(1176=20
> comp emulation).<BR>>><BR>>> Tons of free=20
> ones.<BR>>><BR>>> I would not scream so loud so many =
>times=20
> but PaRIS users with adat =3D<BR>>>in/outs<BR>>> are =
>
> "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>>> Ok UAD1 are already =
>there but=20
> a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all=20
> main<BR>=3D<BR>>>plugins<BR>>> cost used around =
>400-500-600=20
> $<BR>>> So with normal classic option you will have 16 =
>adat ins=20
> and outs plus<BR>>=3D<BR>>>a spdif<BR>>> in and =
>out plus 2=20
> analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi=20
> ins/outs<BR>>><BR>>> Now consider the above new =
>plugins buy=20
> addon and for around 1000 =3D<BR>>>$-1100$<BR>>> you =
>will have=20
> a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.<BR>>> =
>If you=20
> here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the=20
> nice<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Paris<BR>>> =20
> eq...<BR>>><BR>>> Well you would need at least one =
>mec and=20
> one adat card or best two =3D<BR>>>mecs two<BR>>> =
>adat cards ,=20
> or one mec two adat cards under Me =
>(win98)<BR>>><BR>>> Now=20
> if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like=20
> DJ<BR>>=3D<BR>>>wants<BR>>> (me too) you can buy =
>another=20
> two Pulsar cards (your plugins are =3D<BR>>>already=20
> bought)<BR>>> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full =
>three=20
> pulsar cards with 18<BR>>=3D<BR>>>dsp<BR>>> chips =
>!!! and=20
> be happy as I am...<BR>>><BR>>> well there is the =
>"Kingsize"=20
> option.<BR>>> there are also super Pulsar cards out there =
>each=20
> having 15 dsp chips<BR>=3D<BR>>>!!!<BR>>> In outs =
>are the=20
> same, each card can be bought for around=20
> =3D<BR>>>900$-1000-1100$<BR>>> used and with three =
>cards you=20
> can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!<BR>>> Ok back to=20
> reality...<BR>>><BR>>> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps =
>is=20
> adequate for mixing a song and using =
>=3D<BR>>>some<BR>>> great=20
> plugins as I mentioned.<BR>>> The same card can be =
>configured for=20
> a synth recording platforma...<BR>>><BR>>> I am =
>happy to say=20
> more if I see anyone interested...<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> Regards,<BR>>> =20
> Dimitrios<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>I choose =
>Polesoft=20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
>
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=
>META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=
></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=
>lt;FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scope pro looks quite impressive! =20
> =3D<BR>>>I have a=3D20<BR>>>few=20
> questions.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am on the brink of investing in a=20
> =3D<BR>>>killer Cubase=3D20<BR>>>rig (dual cores etc.) =
>which=20
> will</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>probably include an RME card for 16 =
>=3D<BR>>>channels=20
> of=3D20<BR>>>ADAT and Midi=20
> in/out.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> =
>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>>size=3D3D2> &nbs=
>p; =20
> =
>&nbs=3D<BR>>>p; =
> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>; &nb=
>sp; =20
> =3D<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D20<BR>>>OR</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FO=
>NT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Can I=20
> continue to use Cubase SX with a<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> Pro=3D20<BR>>>card in the same=20
> box</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>and eliminate the RME=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>card?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>If so=20
> will this buy me the software =3D<BR>>>power to =
>run=3D20<BR>>>Pulsar=20
> plugins in Cubase=20
> (internally)</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and route in/out to Paris via ADAT=20
> in<BR>=3D<BR>>>sync?=20
> =
>=3D20<BR>>></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=
>=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Process=20
> Paris tracks with plugins in =3D<BR>>>realtime =
>while=3D20<BR>>>sending=20
> softsynths to Paris=20
> also?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Can I still use Cubase's MIDI =
>=3D<BR>>>to it's=20
> fullest=3D20<BR>>>including it's softsynths and return =
>everything=20
> to</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Paris? =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Latency equaling 1.5ms for Pulsar=20
> =3D<BR>>>softsynths and 0=3D20<BR>>>for Pulsar plugins =
>right? =20
> Close to the same =
></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for Cubase and it's third=20
> =
>party=3D20<BR>>>softsynths?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><=
>;DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Do I need=20
> to run Pulsar software mixers<BR>>=3D<BR>>>or can =
>I=3D20<BR>>>call=20
> it's plugins and softsynths=20
> up</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>directly in Cubase? Probably have =
>=3D<BR>>>to=20
> use=3D20<BR>>>Pulsars patchbay to get to Cubase=20
> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One Pro card would allow about how=20
> many<BR>>=3D<BR>>>voices =
>of=3D20<BR>>></FONT><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>softsynths. =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>How about a few nice reverbs and 2 =
>or<BR>=3D<BR>>>three=20
> nice=3D20<BR>>>comps with=20
> that?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any crazy workarounds to make this=20
> =3D<BR>>>proposed=3D20<BR>>>system with Pulsar work (like =
>DJs=20
> w/RME)?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What do you use for=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>sequencing?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=
>;<FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Is=20
> Creamware a company that'll be =3D<BR>>>around for=20
> a=3D20<BR>>>while? Are they as large as Steinberg or=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>RME?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FO=
>NT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm worried about the EMU=20
> =
>syndrome=3D20<BR>>>here.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DI=
>V><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>A close=20
> friend of mine is employed=20
> here<BR>>=3D<BR>>>in=3D20<BR>>>Massachusetts by Analog =
>Devices in=20
> R&D.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>He speaks very highly of the=20
> =
>Sharc=3D20<BR>>>chips.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV&=
>gt;<FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>You can probably tell I don't want =
>to<BR>=3D<BR>>>learn=20
> another=3D20<BR>>>mixer/software program. I'd=20
> prefer</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Pulsar to interact with Cubase like =3D<BR>>>a=20
> UAD-1=3D20<BR>>>card with softsynths. Pulsars'=20
> hardware</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>looks tough to beat for the=3D20<BR>>>cost.=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm seriously interested and also=20
> =3D<BR>>>wondering about=3D20<BR>>>the used market for =
>Pulsar=20
> hardware.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Thanks for this post and I'll be =
>paying<BR>>=3D<BR>>>very=20
> close=3D20<BR>>>attention for your=20
> response.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom =
></FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING=
>-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000=20
> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
><DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> =
><A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi'>=
>news:44788b63$1@linux">news:44788b63$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&=
>lt;BR>Hi</A>,<=3D<BR>>>BR>Pulsar=3D20<BR>>> =20
> as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.<BR>Except for =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>>best synths=3D20<BR>>> around =
>(Moogs,Prophets,etc) it=20
> is a hell of a<BR>PROCESSING=3D20<BR>>> =20
> ENVIRONEMENT<BR>Now a new company has produced new plugz for=20
> these=3D20<BR>>> beasts.<BR>Hold your breath=20
> =
><BR>SSL9000<BR>Neve1084<BR>Pultec<BR>API=3D20<BR>=
>>> =20
> 550<BR>RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)<BR>and an exceptional =
>mastering=20
> dynamic<BR>>=3D<BR>>>EQ that=3D20<BR>>> hard to =
>believe what=20
> it can<BR>do to your mixes.<BR>Only pros could=20
> =3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> access to beats like these=20
> !<BR><BR>Also BSS dynamic 4 channel=3D20<BR>>> =
>
> eq/dymanics emulator also announced.<BR>Still with me=20
> =3D<BR>>>?<BR><BR>wHAT IS=3D20<BR>>> THE =
>MOST=20
> INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!<BR>Imagine=20
> =3D<BR>>>something=3D20<BR>>> around 60-70 $ each =
>main plugin=20
> and a bundle with get them<BR>all like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>500 =
>
> $=3D20<BR>>> or something,prices yet to be=20
> anounced.<BR><BR>I have tried most =3D<BR>>>plugins=20
> out=3D20<BR>>> there , believe me these new ones are=20
> dream<BR>come true for=20
> =3D<BR>>>me...<BR><BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> =
>that already=20
> there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).<BR><BR>Tons of=20
> free<BR>>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =
>ones.<BR><BR>I would=20
> not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS=20
> users<BR>>=3D<BR>>>with=3D20<BR>>> adat =
>in/outs<BR>are=20
> "oblidged" to take this route.<BR>Ok UAD1 are=20
> =3D<BR>>>already=3D20<BR>>> there but a Pulsar card =
>with 6 dsps=20
> and all main plugins<BR>cost=20
> used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>around=3D20<BR>>> 400-500-600 =
>$<BR>So=20
> with normal classic option you will have 16 adat<BR>=3D<BR>>>ins =
>
> and=3D20<BR>>> outs plus a spdif<BR>in and out plus =
>2 analog=20
> 24/96 in and out plus =3D<BR>>>two (32)=3D20<BR>>> =
>midi=20
> ins/outs<BR><BR>Now consider the above new plugins buy =
>addon=20
> and<BR>>=3D<BR>>>for=3D20<BR>>> around 1000=20
> $-1100$<BR>you will have a tremendous resource of=20
> =3D<BR>>>fantastic=3D20<BR>>> sounding =
>plugins.<BR>If you=20
> here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you=20
> will<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stop=3D20<BR>>> using the nice=20
> Paris<BR>eq...<BR><BR>Well you would need at least=20
> one<BR>>=3D<BR>>>mec and=3D20<BR>>> one adat card =
>or best two=20
> mecs two<BR>adat cards , or one mec two=20
> adat<BR>>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> under Me=20
> (win98)<BR><BR>Now if you would want to add more adat=20
> =3D<BR>>>ins/outs to=3D20<BR>>> your system like DJ=20
> wants<BR>(me too) you can buy another two=20
> Pulsar<BR>=3D<BR>>>cards=3D20<BR>>> (your plugins =
>are already=20
> bought)<BR>which leads to another 1000 $=20
> to<BR>>=3D<BR>>>have=3D20<BR>>> full three pulsar =
>cards with=20
> 18 dsp<BR>chips !!! and be happy as I=3D20<BR>>> =20
> am...<BR><BR>well there is the "Kingsize" =
>option.<BR>there=20
> are also =3D<BR>>>super=3D20<BR>>> Pulsar cards out =
>there each=20
> having 15 dsp chips !!!<BR>In outs are=20
> the<BR>>=3D<BR>>>same,=3D20<BR>>> each card can =
>be bought for=20
> around 900$-1000-1100$<BR>used and with=20
> =3D<BR>>>three=3D20<BR>>> cards you can have 45 dsps =
>
> !!!!!!!<BR>Ok back to=20
> =
>reality...<BR><BR>One<BR>>=3D<BR>>>Pulsar=3D20<BR>&g=
>t;> =20
> card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using=20
> =
>some<BR>great<BR>>=3D<BR>>>plugins=3D20<BR>>> =
>as I=20
> mentioned.<BR>The same card can be configured for a synth=20
> =3D<BR>>>recording=3D20<BR>>> =
>platforma...<BR><BR>I=20
> am happy to say more if I see anyone=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>interested...<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><=
>;/BLOCKQUOTE><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>and=3D20<BR>>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>>hr=
>ef=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>>.html</A> =20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>>><BR>>&g=
>t;<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
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