| Streamboy [message #78409] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 10:09  |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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OK - so I found that the plug I have been working on already exists. It's
called streamboy and is available at www.elevayta.com. Can a couple of you
guys try it between paris and another host and let me know how it goes?
Thanks
Chuck
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| Re: Streamboy [message #78463 is a reply to message #78449] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 05:35  |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Dear DJ and fellow Paris users.
We come back again on some things we have found a great way of doing this
before !
I mean WORMHOLE extensiveley tested at least by me can achieve that with
some latency -controllable- and can send at least on my system 24 audio tracks
fully synced from Cubase to Paris in 32 bit format !!!
Yes 32 bit sent 24 bit arrived ??
Anyway there is sample accurate syncing and the only way of workingf with
wormhole and Paris is by wrapping wormhole by FXPansion 3.3 the old and trusted
wrapper.
Is the only wrapper known to Dimitrios :) that can work with sample accurate
syncing on both start and end instances.
I am sure a strong PC can do more than 32 or even 48 tracks, you just need
a 1000 ethernet connection there...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Would 90ms really matter if you were streaming directly from Cubase to Paris
>in a mix scenario? As long as the tracks were being played back from Cubase
>SX with PDC using a VST>VST interface, the delay wouldn't be an issue
>because you would be applying your automation in Cubase, not Paris. The
>advantage to this would be that it would allow 24 bit transfers and would
>allow Paris to run on Win XP without the ADAT moduleissues or the 24bit>20
>bit (inaudible) truncation. this would, however, require 3 x Magma chassis
>on one mobo. One would have the $EDS cards, one would have the native system
>cards and one would have the UAD-1 cards. Paris will share with the UAD-1
>cards, but not with RME or Creamware cards and neither RME or Creamware
>cards will share IRQ with UAD-1 cards. I actually have 3 Magmas here (2
x
>13's and 1 x 7 slot) which are loaded each with the respective cards. I
also
>have another 13 slot Magma here in reserve that I could use to achieve a
bit
>more flexibility IRQ wise if the 7 slot unit throws me an IRQ wild card.
I
>guess I'll have to try this with my new mobo and dualcore AMD 4800 CPU.
>wouldn't it be the **** if it actually worked? LOL!!!!
>
>Stay tuned.
>
>;o)
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45abc8eb$1@linux...
>>
>> Dear Chuck.
>> I have tried all.
>> This demo has a fixed latency at 90 ms !!
>> Even if you lower its settings it can't go under 45ms with Paris.
>> Don't know if the retail version can do lower but I doubt it.
>> They have big latency if they work at all...
>> Only senderella works 0 latency if you put edstransfer 8,16
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OK - so I found that the plug I have been working on already exists.
It's
>>>called streamboy and is available at www.elevayta.com. Can a couple of
>> you
>>>guys try it between paris and another host and let me know how it goes?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Chuck
>>
>
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| Re: Streamboy [message #78487 is a reply to message #78463] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 14:26 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Dimitrios,
Can WH work with all of the cards and paalications running the same
computer? I've been thinking about this and it would be very cool to get
this to happen on a dual core machine. If cubase could run on the ASIO
driver of a Realtek onboard audio chip, then the UAD-1 plugins and Paris
could occupy the slots and the UAD-1 cards could be run from within Cubase
SX. Yes, there would be latency...what ever ASIO buffer latency you had to
use, plus the 90 ms of Streamboy so you would have to get your fader
automation happening while outputting Cubase via ASIO stereo out. then once
your were close, you could instantiate Streamboy in Paris and cubase on a
track to track basis and use Paris for summing. Latency wouldn't really
matter at that point.
Just a thought. It would be nice to have something tighter though....maybe
6-12ms capability. At that point, automation would be possible when summing
in Paris without big latency issues.
Deej
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45acc67f$1@linux...
>
> Dear DJ and fellow Paris users.
> We come back again on some things we have found a great way of doing this
> before !
> I mean WORMHOLE extensiveley tested at least by me can achieve that with
> some latency -controllable- and can send at least on my system 24 audio
> tracks
> fully synced from Cubase to Paris in 32 bit format !!!
> Yes 32 bit sent 24 bit arrived ??
> Anyway there is sample accurate syncing and the only way of workingf with
> wormhole and Paris is by wrapping wormhole by FXPansion 3.3 the old and
> trusted
> wrapper.
> Is the only wrapper known to Dimitrios :) that can work with sample
> accurate
> syncing on both start and end instances.
> I am sure a strong PC can do more than 32 or even 48 tracks, you just need
> a 1000 ethernet connection there...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Would 90ms really matter if you were streaming directly from Cubase to
>>Paris
>
>>in a mix scenario? As long as the tracks were being played back from
>>Cubase
>
>>SX with PDC using a VST>VST interface, the delay wouldn't be an issue
>>because you would be applying your automation in Cubase, not Paris. The
>
>>advantage to this would be that it would allow 24 bit transfers and would
>
>>allow Paris to run on Win XP without the ADAT moduleissues or the 24bit>20
>
>>bit (inaudible) truncation. this would, however, require 3 x Magma chassis
>
>>on one mobo. One would have the $EDS cards, one would have the native
>>system
>
>>cards and one would have the UAD-1 cards. Paris will share with the UAD-1
>
>>cards, but not with RME or Creamware cards and neither RME or Creamware
>
>>cards will share IRQ with UAD-1 cards. I actually have 3 Magmas here (2
> x
>>13's and 1 x 7 slot) which are loaded each with the respective cards. I
> also
>>have another 13 slot Magma here in reserve that I could use to achieve a
> bit
>>more flexibility IRQ wise if the 7 slot unit throws me an IRQ wild card.
> I
>>guess I'll have to try this with my new mobo and dualcore AMD 4800 CPU.
>
>>wouldn't it be the **** if it actually worked? LOL!!!!
>>
>>Stay tuned.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45abc8eb$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Dear Chuck.
>>> I have tried all.
>>> This demo has a fixed latency at 90 ms !!
>>> Even if you lower its settings it can't go under 45ms with Paris.
>>> Don't know if the retail version can do lower but I doubt it.
>>> They have big latency if they work at all...
>>> Only senderella works 0 latency if you put edstransfer 8,16
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>OK - so I found that the plug I have been working on already exists.
> It's
>>>>called streamboy and is available at www.elevayta.com. Can a couple of
>>> you
>>>>guys try it between paris and another host and let me know how it goes?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Chuck
>>>
>>
>>
>
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