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| Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95377] |
Sat, 02 February 2008 12:28  |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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Hey all,
I'm going on my yearly two week vacation soon. Most people take a digital
camera and take a million snaps. I'll do that for sure but I'm an almost
uniquely bad photographer. So, I thought to myself, why not document my trip
with sound, something I _do_ understand. I'm hoping to get an M-Audio microtrack
II. It comes with a simple electret stereo mic, like a lavaliere. It also
has TRS inputs with phantom power. If I were to pick a mic out of my current
'cabinet' for mono remote recording that would be better than the electret
it would be a Rode NT-5. Remember. portability here matters a lot. Any other
ideas for a very small, very portable mic for location recording? Suggestions
for a handheld hard disc recorder if there is one superior to the microtrack
II are also welcome.
Thanks,
TCB
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95379 is a reply to message #95377] |
Sat, 02 February 2008 12:19  |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
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Thad,
Here's a link to a little post project we did here recently.
http://www.mediafire.com/?40yn5bciy4t
The narrative was recorded with an Edirol R-09.
http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/
I highly recommend this box. It's the size of a pack of cigarettes and the
audio quality is excellent with the built in stereo mic. It can also record
lo-rez and in mono with a mono mic using a minijack.
It really is just about the perfect low maintenance, high quality,
multiformat self contained stereo field recorder unless you wan to go above
the $1k pricepoint.
Deej
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a4c474$1@linux...
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> Hey all,
>
> I'm going on my yearly two week vacation soon. Most people take a digital
> camera and take a million snaps. I'll do that for sure but I'm an almost
> uniquely bad photographer. So, I thought to myself, why not document my
> trip
> with sound, something I _do_ understand. I'm hoping to get an M-Audio
> microtrack
> II. It comes with a simple electret stereo mic, like a lavaliere. It also
> has TRS inputs with phantom power. If I were to pick a mic out of my
> current
> 'cabinet' for mono remote recording that would be better than the electret
> it would be a Rode NT-5. Remember. portability here matters a lot. Any
> other
> ideas for a very small, very portable mic for location recording?
> Suggestions
> for a handheld hard disc recorder if there is one superior to the
> microtrack
> II are also welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TCB
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95387 is a reply to message #95379] |
Sat, 02 February 2008 15:04 |
steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005
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I have a Soom H4 sitting here that a friend decided I could use better than
he could, so I've been playing around with it.
Also about the size of a pack of cigarettes (I think - never got that close
to a pack of cigarettes...) and even cheaper than the edirol. Also functions
as an audio in. Also records on 4 discrete tracks. Loads audio onto SD chips.
Functions as a travel drive.
Has two quite decent mics hardwired into it in a stereo-X config and also
takes 2 1/4" and/or XLRs.
we live in a time of miraculous toys.
-steve
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>Thad,
>
>Here's a link to a little post project we did here recently.
>http://www.mediafire.com/?40yn5bciy4t
>The narrative was recorded with an Edirol R-09.
>http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/
>I highly recommend this box. It's the size of a pack of cigarettes and the
>audio quality is excellent with the built in stereo mic. It can also record
>lo-rez and in mono with a mono mic using a minijack.
>
>It really is just about the perfect low maintenance, high quality,
>multiformat self contained stereo field recorder unless you wan to go above
>the $1k pricepoint.
>
>Deej
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a4c474$1@linux...
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>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm going on my yearly two week vacation soon. Most people take a digital
>> camera and take a million snaps. I'll do that for sure but I'm an almost
>> uniquely bad photographer. So, I thought to myself, why not document my
>> trip
>> with sound, something I _do_ understand. I'm hoping to get an M-Audio
>> microtrack
>> II. It comes with a simple electret stereo mic, like a lavaliere. It also
>> has TRS inputs with phantom power. If I were to pick a mic out of my
>> current
>> 'cabinet' for mono remote recording that would be better than the electret
>> it would be a Rode NT-5. Remember. portability here matters a lot. Any
>> other
>> ideas for a very small, very portable mic for location recording?
>> Suggestions
>> for a handheld hard disc recorder if there is one superior to the
>> microtrack
>> II are also welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TCB
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95440 is a reply to message #95379] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 04:46 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Very cool Deej, thanks much. Of course I kinda want the ability to plug my
own mic in but that little piece you attached makes me wonder if I'm just
being a gearhead. What I really want from this device is just a 'sound collector'
for two weeks in Bangkok. I'm so bad with pictures that I feel like I can't
explain what the place is like when I come back. This unit might be just
the ticket.
I'll put you on my 'Bangkok blog' spam list. I leave March 7th and will send
out at least half a dozen updates.
TCB
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>Thad,
>
>Here's a link to a little post project we did here recently.
>http://www.mediafire.com/?40yn5bciy4t
>The narrative was recorded with an Edirol R-09.
>http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/
>I highly recommend this box. It's the size of a pack of cigarettes and the
>audio quality is excellent with the built in stereo mic. It can also record
>lo-rez and in mono with a mono mic using a minijack.
>
>It really is just about the perfect low maintenance, high quality,
>multiformat self contained stereo field recorder unless you wan to go above
>the $1k pricepoint.
>
>Deej
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a4c474$1@linux...
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>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm going on my yearly two week vacation soon. Most people take a digital
>> camera and take a million snaps. I'll do that for sure but I'm an almost
>> uniquely bad photographer. So, I thought to myself, why not document my
>> trip
>> with sound, something I _do_ understand. I'm hoping to get an M-Audio
>> microtrack
>> II. It comes with a simple electret stereo mic, like a lavaliere. It also
>> has TRS inputs with phantom power. If I were to pick a mic out of my
>> current
>> 'cabinet' for mono remote recording that would be better than the electret
>> it would be a Rode NT-5. Remember. portability here matters a lot. Any
>> other
>> ideas for a very small, very portable mic for location recording?
>> Suggestions
>> for a handheld hard disc recorder if there is one superior to the
>> microtrack
>> II are also welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TCB
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95441 is a reply to message #95387] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 04:49 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Another really cool looking device. Seems there are more choices in this space
than I realized. The only complaints about either this one of the Deej one
is that they don't sync to video perfectly which I suspect is an issue of
dumb ass video guys not knowing how sample rates work.
Very cool, thanks for the tip. I'll put you on my vacation mailing list if
you like as well.
TCB
"steve the artguy" <steve@headintheclouds.com> wrote:
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>I have a Soom H4 sitting here that a friend decided I could use better than
>he could, so I've been playing around with it.
>
>Also about the size of a pack of cigarettes (I think - never got that close
>to a pack of cigarettes...) and even cheaper than the edirol. Also functions
>as an audio in. Also records on 4 discrete tracks. Loads audio onto SD chips.
>Functions as a travel drive.
>
>Has two quite decent mics hardwired into it in a stereo-X config and also
>takes 2 1/4" and/or XLRs.
>
>we live in a time of miraculous toys.
>
>-steve
>
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>Thad,
>>
>>Here's a link to a little post project we did here recently.
>>http://www.mediafire.com/?40yn5bciy4t
>>The narrative was recorded with an Edirol R-09.
>>http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/
>>I highly recommend this box. It's the size of a pack of cigarettes and
the
>
>>audio quality is excellent with the built in stereo mic. It can also record
>
>>lo-rez and in mono with a mono mic using a minijack.
>>
>>It really is just about the perfect low maintenance, high quality,
>>multiformat self contained stereo field recorder unless you wan to go above
>
>>the $1k pricepoint.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a4c474$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I'm going on my yearly two week vacation soon. Most people take a digital
>>> camera and take a million snaps. I'll do that for sure but I'm an almost
>>> uniquely bad photographer. So, I thought to myself, why not document
my
>
>>> trip
>>> with sound, something I _do_ understand. I'm hoping to get an M-Audio
>
>>> microtrack
>>> II. It comes with a simple electret stereo mic, like a lavaliere. It
also
>>> has TRS inputs with phantom power. If I were to pick a mic out of my
>>> current
>>> 'cabinet' for mono remote recording that would be better than the electret
>>> it would be a Rode NT-5. Remember. portability here matters a lot. Any
>
>>> other
>>> ideas for a very small, very portable mic for location recording?
>>> Suggestions
>>> for a handheld hard disc recorder if there is one superior to the
>>> microtrack
>>> II are also welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>>
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95461 is a reply to message #95440] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 10:41 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Thad - the Zoom H4 and H2 are nice little recorders. The H4 is the one if
you want to use your own
mics. The H2 does 4 channel surround though, and comes with software to
convert it to 5.1. I know of a
sound design guy using it in Hollywood on big budget films - it's noise
floor apparently isn't amazingly good (no suprise for the price), but
everyone I've heard review it says they are quite happy with the sound
quality, and portability for capturing some live surround fx, etc. I've
used the H4, and even it's built in mics are pretty good for the money.
The Korg MR1 and MR1000 look like great units esp. since they do DSD, though
for quite a bit more money (e.g. more to lose
when traveling).
Regards,
Dedric
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a5a99b$1@linux...
>
> Very cool Deej, thanks much. Of course I kinda want the ability to plug my
> own mic in but that little piece you attached makes me wonder if I'm just
> being a gearhead. What I really want from this device is just a 'sound
> collector'
> for two weeks in Bangkok. I'm so bad with pictures that I feel like I
> can't
> explain what the place is like when I come back. This unit might be just
> the ticket.
>
> I'll put you on my 'Bangkok blog' spam list. I leave March 7th and will
> send
> out at least half a dozen updates.
>
> TCB
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>Thad,
>>
>>Here's a link to a little post project we did here recently.
>>http://www.mediafire.com/?40yn5bciy4t
>>The narrative was recorded with an Edirol R-09.
>>http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/
>>I highly recommend this box. It's the size of a pack of cigarettes and the
>
>>audio quality is excellent with the built in stereo mic. It can also
>>record
>
>>lo-rez and in mono with a mono mic using a minijack.
>>
>>It really is just about the perfect low maintenance, high quality,
>>multiformat self contained stereo field recorder unless you wan to go
>>above
>
>>the $1k pricepoint.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a4c474$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I'm going on my yearly two week vacation soon. Most people take a
>>> digital
>>> camera and take a million snaps. I'll do that for sure but I'm an almost
>>> uniquely bad photographer. So, I thought to myself, why not document my
>
>>> trip
>>> with sound, something I _do_ understand. I'm hoping to get an M-Audio
>
>>> microtrack
>>> II. It comes with a simple electret stereo mic, like a lavaliere. It
>>> also
>>> has TRS inputs with phantom power. If I were to pick a mic out of my
>>> current
>>> 'cabinet' for mono remote recording that would be better than the
>>> electret
>>> it would be a Rode NT-5. Remember. portability here matters a lot. Any
>
>>> other
>>> ideas for a very small, very portable mic for location recording?
>>> Suggestions
>>> for a handheld hard disc recorder if there is one superior to the
>>> microtrack
>>> II are also welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>>
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95487 is a reply to message #95476] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 18:55 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Just "behave" yourself
Martin Harrington
On 4/2/08 11:04 AM, in article 47a6487f$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:
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> I think it's going to be the Zoom H4 or the Edirol. Probably the Edirol,
> though,
> just for ease of use. I'm taking my new laptop and an RME interface for
> 'serious'
> recording while I'm there, so the lack of a phantom powered input isn't much
> of a big deal.
>
> It's been a pretty serious winter here as well. Not like the midwest, or
> the mountain west (I've been to both) but it's been a 'real' winter for a
> change.
>
> I'll put you on the Bangkok spam list for sure. It's quite a place and always
> shakes me up in a good way.
>
> TCB
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a5a99b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Very cool Deej, thanks much. Of course I kinda want the ability to plug
> my
>>> own mic in but that little piece you attached makes me wonder if I'm just
>>> being a gearhead. What I really want from this device is just a 'sound
>
>>> collector'
>>> for two weeks in Bangkok. I'm so bad with pictures that I feel like I
>
>>> can't
>>> explain what the place is like when I come back. This unit might be just
>>> the ticket.
>>>
>>> I'll put you on my 'Bangkok blog' spam list. I leave March 7th and will
>
>>> send
>>> out at least half a dozen updates.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>> Looking forward to the Bangkok blog. I can fantasize about the tropics while
>
>> I watch it snow some more. We're starting to reach epic levels here. Even
>
>> the old timers who like to sit around and talk about the days when it used
>
>> to "really" snow around here are starting to afford this season some major
>
>> respect. In areas where it hasn't been plowed, it's almost 3' deep down
> here
>> in the valley. I'm starting to get sorta' sick of it actually. Too much
> snow
>> can be expensive. We had our property plowed yesterday to the tune of
>> $150.00 and today it's already halfway to the levels it was 24 hours ago
> and
>> it's snowing really hard right now.
>>
>>
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95490 is a reply to message #95487] |
Sun, 03 February 2008 21:34 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Don't worry, Martin, I'm not shy about the fact that I live life a little
faster than most people, and I date my share of (usually Latino) strippers
stateside, but I have zero interest in the pay-for-play scene in Thailand.
This comes not from morals, we all pay for it in one way or another, but
a genuine and deep fear of disease.
One of the great sadnesses on my trips to Thailand is that it is know, quite
justifiably, as the world's brothel. If a westerner looks beyond that, Thais
are just about the most gentle, generous, and wonderful people the world
has ever produced. Soi Cowboy and Patpong are fun for a walk through, but
you'll see me at a meditation lesson well before you'll see me at a go-go
bar.
The odd thing about Thailand is that me, Mr. Atheist himself, finds it renewing
in a way that I can only describe as spiritual. My soul is in better shape
when I come back from Bangkok, where most people have other parts of their
anatomy worked over. Oh well, as long as we all come back happy I guess it's
OK.
Cheers,
TCB
Martin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Just "behave" yourself
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>Martin Harrington
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>On 4/2/08 11:04 AM, in article 47a6487f$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I think it's going to be the Zoom H4 or the Edirol. Probably the Edirol,
>> though,
>> just for ease of use. I'm taking my new laptop and an RME interface for
>> 'serious'
>> recording while I'm there, so the lack of a phantom powered input isn't
much
>> of a big deal.
>>
>> It's been a pretty serious winter here as well. Not like the midwest,
or
>> the mountain west (I've been to both) but it's been a 'real' winter for
a
>> change.
>>
>> I'll put you on the Bangkok spam list for sure. It's quite a place and
always
>> shakes me up in a good way.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47a5a99b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Very cool Deej, thanks much. Of course I kinda want the ability to plug
>> my
>>>> own mic in but that little piece you attached makes me wonder if I'm
just
>>>> being a gearhead. What I really want from this device is just a 'sound
>>
>>>> collector'
>>>> for two weeks in Bangkok. I'm so bad with pictures that I feel like
I
>>
>>>> can't
>>>> explain what the place is like when I come back. This unit might be
just
>>>> the ticket.
>>>>
>>>> I'll put you on my 'Bangkok blog' spam list. I leave March 7th and will
>>
>>>> send
>>>> out at least half a dozen updates.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>> Looking forward to the Bangkok blog. I can fantasize about the tropics
while
>>
>>> I watch it snow some more. We're starting to reach epic levels here.
Even
>>
>>> the old timers who like to sit around and talk about the days when it
used
>>
>>> to "really" snow around here are starting to afford this season some
major
>>
>>> respect. In areas where it hasn't been plowed, it's almost 3' deep down
>> here
>>> in the valley. I'm starting to get sorta' sick of it actually. Too much
>> snow
>>> can be expensive. We had our property plowed yesterday to the tune of
>>> $150.00 and today it's already halfway to the levels it was 24 hours
ago
>> and
>>> it's snowing really hard right now.
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Remote (really, really remote) recording mic [message #95697 is a reply to message #95387] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 20:30 |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
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On 3 Feb 2008 09:04:23 +1000, "steve the artguy"
<steve@headintheclouds.com> wrote:
>
>I have a Soom H4 sitting here that a friend decided I could use better than
>he could, so I've been playing around with it.
>
>Also about the size of a pack of cigarettes (I think - never got that close
>to a pack of cigarettes...) and even cheaper than the edirol. Also functions
>as an audio in. Also records on 4 discrete tracks. Loads audio onto SD chips.
>Functions as a travel drive.
>
>Has two quite decent mics hardwired into it in a stereo-X config and also
>takes 2 1/4" and/or XLRs.
>
>we live in a time of miraculous toys.
I just used one of those on the cruise we just took. It was a fanclub
cruise, and the artists are friends. There's a group of us who handle
their tech needs when we're around, so the one guy ran FOH for the
onboard concerts, and I plugged the H4 into the board and did a
2-track archival recording.
I also tried it as a usb audio interface for Logic Ex;press on my
MacBook Pro. Worked fine, but LE has recording time limitations that
I couldn't deal with.
At night, there were often informal jam sessions in the library
amongst the musos in our group. I used the H4 with the built-on x-y
pair to record those, and it was amazingly sensitive.
I like it a lot.
pab
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