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| Re: Where's that instructional on installing XP? [message #64036 is a reply to message #64032] |
Wed, 01 February 2006 01:17   |
Kim
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Registered: October 2005
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...aaaaGAIN????!! ;o)
Always remember... www.archive.org. If you haven't been there, go there
now. Everybody should know about this thing...
....but here 'tis...
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Making PARIS freaking fly on Windows XP
This page contains just about everything you'll need to successfully migrate
PARIS to XP. You should be aware that PARIS XP drivers were not produced
by Intelligent Devices or E-MU. Intelligent Devices and E-MU Do not and
will not support problems with XP drivers or software installations running
on XP!.
The XP Drivers were written by an insanely talented programming guru type
named Chris Thoman. Lot's of other people were involved testing. The drivers
are released as DonationWare. It's fairly obvious to me that Chris's primary
motivation on this project had nothing to do with money. Since the drivers
appear to work flawlessly when installed according to the directions, I would
be extremely disappointed if anyone running an XP installation didn't reward
Chris for his efforts by making a donation. Face it, his motivation may
not have been financial - but there's nothing wrong with showing him that
we are all willing to support his efforts with our wallets. 100% of donations
go directly to Chris.
The rest of the page contains a lot of scary disclaimers about PARIS under
XP. Most of these stem from the fact that the drivers are a third party
product. You may also have witnessed months worth of posts about Crash on
Exit and be really wary about proceeding, or wonder to yourself if it's worth
it to even try. Below are some quotes from PARIS users running on XP. The
names have changed to protect the innocent.
Gerry Fallgood, Noshville TN Writes: This is working 100% on my 8 EDS1000,
(4)MEC, (4)442, 17 MEC expansion card, multi C-16, word clocked system. As
ugly as a Paris setup gets, and this is solid for me. Zero crashes on exit.
More stable than Win9x for me so far, testing this new FX setup pack for
the last 3 days.In fact, it's so solid that I declare Paris on WinXP as totally
ready for prime time. I've just begun working fulltime on XP with 2 Matrox
G450 dualheads, 2 UAD-1 cards, removeable Firewire HDs and no problems with
ParisXP.
Grog Writes: Thanks Chuck and Chris, I just open and closed paris 4 timesand
not 1 single crash on exit, I also own all of your plugins from the Mod,EQ,
no limit, Peusdo and still
no crash on exit. This works everybody, Hurrah
Kim Writes: Thanks Chris and Chuck. Legendary stuff!!
Johnny Writes: CONGRATULATIONS!! CHUCK AND CHRIS!! I have yet to get it going
for time reasons, but I have seen AA work with no problems enough to know
it is very solid.
Don Johnson Writes: Works flawlessly on my rig. I was not only having COE
problems when closing out of a Paris project, Windows would also hang at
shutdown and I had to manually shut the computer off. None of these problems
now exist after installing the patch. I'd say that the Skunkworks XP package
is ready for prime time. Very impressive............and thanks again for
all of your hard work!
Before you follow the actual installation directions below you need to carefully
review the next few bullet points and see if you can live with the facts
presented:
* These drivers are BETA! If you encounter problems with these drivers
your only recourse is to revert to an older version of windows. We don't
recommend betting your business on them (although with the new effects subsystem
installer they seem to be working smashingly). If they don't work there is
no option other than posting your problem to www.greatidea.com/webnews/.
* There is NO GUARANTEE that these drivers will work with your system.
If they don't work there is no option other than posting your problem to
www.greatidea.com/webnews/ .
* These drivers are being provided by a group of PARIS users. You must
agree that you will NEVER, EVER contact EMU-Ensoniq for support on these
drivers. If they don't work there is no option other than posting your problem
to www.greatidea.com/webnews/
* These drivers are being provided by a group of PARIS users. You must
agree NEVER, EVER to contact Intelligent Devices for support on these drivers.
If they don't work there is no option other than posting your problem to
www.greatidea.com/webnews/
* BE AWARE that if you begin experiencing problems with PARIS after installing
these drivers and do contact EMU or ID they will disavow support because
you are now running PARIS on an unsupported operating system. There is no
option other than posting your problem to www.greatidea.com/webnews/
* BE AWARE that even if you do post a problem to www.greatidea.com/webnews/
there is absolutely no Guarantee that we can provide a remedy.
With all that in mind (and I don't mean to scare you!), if you want to proceed
here are the steps you'll need to take:
1. Decide which version of XP to use: XP Home is the best value and can be
purchased as an upgrade from Win9X for under $100.
SUMMARY: USE XP HOME XP VERSION, BUT DO A FRESH INSTALL!
There are two possible reasons why you would choose XP Professional.
* If you need multi processor (multi CPU) support
* if you need or want your XP box to be able to join a Windows 2000 or
NT domain
Since most of us don't require these features, the value choice is pretty
clear to me, choose XP Home. It's most definitely not "crippleware" as suggested
on some sites.
2. Decide which Disk Format to use for our disks: Here you have a choice
between NTFS and FAT32.
SUMMARY : System Drive NTFS, Audio Drives FAT32
Here's what NTFS has to offer.
* File Security: Access rights can be assigned to files and directories,
allowing users full access, partial access or no access at all to data on
the hard disk. I doubt you would need this.
* Encryption: NTFS can automatically encrypt and decrypt file data as
it is read and written to the disk. It's doubtful that anyone running PARIS
would need this, and the performance hit is huge.
* Disk compression: File and directory compression can be performed
without using any third party software, which saves space, while still allowing
for transparent access and operation to the user. Theoretically you could
format one of your volumes as NTFS, enable compression and store backups
in compressed format. Personal experience leads me to believe that the .paf
and .wav formats do not compress by a high enough factor to make this worthwhile
* Support for large hard disks: We're talking very large. Try a theoretical
limit of 16 Exabytes, and up to 2 Terabytes.
As we don't really need these features the choice to run FAT32 on audio volumes
seems like a good one. On the system drive it's probably a good idea to
run NTFS because the XP installer doesn't support FAT32 drive volumes greater
than 32GB. Drives added after the initial install (like our audio drive)
can be formatted to any size.
3. Optimizing your XP install: There are tons of great resources out there.
One I like is http://www.tweakxp.com/tweakxp/performance_tweaks.asp. Keep
in mind that for most people XP and PARIS will work well right out of the
box. There's no need to go for the jugular when tweaking your machine.
In general I would recommend that you simply work with your system for a
while and figure out if it meets your needs in a stock configuration. I'm
a big fan of KISS (Keep it simple), and hardcore tweaking can make things
harder to debug later
SUMMARY: Try the system out before you tweak. If it works for you, leave
it alone :-)
4. Install the PARIS XP drivers: Download the PARIS BETA 3 Driver It's a
really good idea to print out the install directions and follow them exactly,
crossing off each step as you complete it. Many problems reported by users
come from improper driver installation.
SUMMARY: Follow the driver installation directions!
5. PARIS Pro 3.0 users: If you plan on installing Paris 3.0, you will need
to update the PACE InterLok drivers before installing the Paris 3.0 software.
The latest version of these drivers is available on the Internet at:
http://www.paceap.com/dldrvr.html Do not install PARIS 3.0 before you update
the PACE DRIVERS!!!.
SUMMARY: Update PACE Drivers before you install the PARIS 3.0 application!
6. Install the PARIS application: When you install the PARIS application
it's a really good idea to write down the path the installer is installing
the application to now, especially if you are changing the location, or
are installing an older version of PARIS. You'll need this info for the
next step.
SUMMARY: Know thy path and write it down.
7. Install the PARIS XP Effects Subsystem: This one is fairly straightforward.
Download the installer and run it. The installer suggests an installation
path for PARIS 3.0. If you are running an older version of PARIS, or have
installed PARIS to an alternate directory then you will need to enter the
correct path. Here's the rub - if you get this path wrong it's just not
going to work. The best strategy is to know exactly where the PARIS executable
is, and to get the path right :-) This version of the subsystem is 1.05
(minimum version). Check the myparispro.com site from time to time to ensure
that you always have the latest subsystem.
SUMMARY: Know the path to the PARIS executable on your system before you
install the subsystem!
8. The moment of truth - Starting the PARIS app: For the vast majority of
people this is just going to work. For those with Matrox Video Cards (especially
multi head) there may be problems. Don't worry - there are solutions :-)
The single biggest problem reported by users is ERROR 7/7. This means that
the hardware is not functioning correctly, even though XP shows it as "functioning
correctly.
The primary cause of ERROR 7/7 is the PARIS card sharing an interrupt with
a video card. Use The System Information tool located on Accessories/ System
Tools/ System information and determine if your PARIS cards are sharing IRQs
with a video card. If this is the case, and you are getting an Error 7/7
on launch you will need to rectify this. This is done through resource allocation
in the BIOS of your PC. There are far too many BIOS variations for me to
offer specifics on this, so if you don't know how to do it post your questions
to www.greatidea.com/webnews/ with your specific motherboard and somebody
with a similar config can probably help you.
9. New Effects: I get a lot of questions about running my new effects under
PARIS XP. If you followed all the instructions and have the latest PARIS
XP Effects Subsystem then all the new effects. I don't recommend running
the "simple" example plug-ins under any version of Windows and have actually
removed them from the site.
10. New Stuff In the subsystem: The new effects subsystem adds some plug-ins
to your system. The plug-ins it adds are intended to support other new plug-ins
in the future. There's nothing stopping you from using the mono and stereo
high res meters that are included with the subsystem, or from using the two
wires plugs. I'm not going to talk a lot about these plugs other than to
say that neither the meters nor wires is "finished". They include only enough
to act as building blocks for other plugs I will be releasing later.
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| Re: Where's that instructional on installing XP? [message #64270 is a reply to message #64268] |
Mon, 06 February 2006 20:18 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Well, upon expending slightly more brain power, it seems the link is:
http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
....but my point was that it never appears in the address bar. You have the
sight, oh what's the name for it... you're using that link think where
the URL in your address bar just says "www.parisfaqs.com" all the time and
never changes at all for any of the pages. There's a name for it and I can't
remember. Obviously the ParisFAQs page though is, in reality, at http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/
somewhere, but you never see that in your address bar. It always just says
http://www.parisfaqs.com and the real address that your browser is actually
at is masked underneath.
That's what I meant anyhow. A little extra brainpower revealed that putting
my mouse over the Windows XP Install Notes link showed the real address in
the status bar at the bottom, hence all was revealed, it was just a little
more difficult than getting to the page and copying the contents of the address
bar once I arrived. If you click the link, the above site name never appears
in the address bar. It still says "http://www.parisfaqs.com". There's a name
for that and I know it but can't recall right now...
Did that make any sense? ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Good point. Only thing is I can't link to it as the browser only show
>> www.parisfaqs.com
>> as the url...
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>Not sure I'm grokking that. What do you mean?
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>--
>-Doug
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>http://www.parisfaqs.com
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| Re: Where's that instructional on installing XP? [message #64314 is a reply to message #64298] |
Tue, 07 February 2006 15:03 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Cool. No biggie anyhow. My brain was just too tired to work out how to get
around it. ;o)
Thanks for all your hard work on that site by the way. In a world of shrinking
Paris resources it's certainly become a centrepeice. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, upon expending slightly more brain power, it seems the link is:
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>> http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
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>> ...but my point was that it never appears in the address bar.
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>Right, I hear ya now mate. It's because the site is "masqueraded" because
>of the way the DNS entry points into my web tree. It is *ALWAYS* better
to
>point people to the main ParisFAQS web page because that "hidden" URL you
>refer to above will change*. I know it's not as "convenient" to have to
>scroll down to that part of the page, but hey, look at it this way - you
>might notice something else on ParisFAQs that you hadn't seen before...
;-)
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>*I've been building a new site using plone. As soon as I find someone with
>a web server that provides zope/cmf/plone, the site will move and that url
>won't be valid anymore.
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>--
>-Doug
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>http://www.parisfaqs.com
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