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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #80996 is a reply to message #80979] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 11:48   |
excelav
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It's not like the Mac somebody just bought is now going to be worthless.
The stuff you recently bought is not worthless because some new whiz bang
MOBO just came out with faster processors. And what would those new Processors
cost anyways?
You just said that computers become obsolete in 9 months. Yes, there is
a thing called an upgrade cycle in the computer industry. Have you ever
heard of Moore's law? Yes Apple MOBOs cost more to replace than buying an
after market MOBO, but it's unlikely that you would have to do that. The
processors are upgradeable on the Apple Mac Pros, so there is an upgrade
path. Mac users get a lot more use out of their Macs before they feel the
need to upgrade, and the resale on Macs is a lot better. In short we get
our moneys worth.
You need to consider the OS that works with those Apple MOBOs. Of course
in your mind nothing could be better than Windows. I use both and Windows
sucks!
Consider where Windows is going! Have you looked at the pros and cons of
Vista? Talk about being locked in, you better take a closer look at Vista
and not buy THAT marketing hype. What will Vista cost to add to you pieced
together PC? What about all the software you will have to upgrade. For
the full blown version it's $199 to upgrade and $299 for a new retail version.
And security, it's still a joke. The alternative is not Linux. It's still
not a viable option, it's just not quite ready for prime time, Mac OSX is!
There is only one version of Mac OSX and it's only $129, there's no slice
and dice games. Every new Mac will come with Mac OSX and iLife for multimedia.
Have you considered the benefits of Mac OSX? No, of course not. All you
can see is the price tag.
What does a comparable Dell cost? You wont do that, it's too much. It's
so much cheaper to build your own PC with Cheap after market parts. Well
have at it! Good luck getting it all to work. You might want to count your
time in to the equation and see what it is really costing you.
I will say, although the Apple monitors are slick and high quality, you will
probably never see me buy one. They are too high priced, and there are reasonable
alternatives. It's not the same situation with their computers. If more
people bought Apple computers I believe they would come down in price. To
some degree, it's supply and demand.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think Apple computers are more
expensive than they should be, but you get what you pay for. The quality
is great, the designs are cool, and the OS makes it all worth it! Headache
free computing!!! That's worth the price of admission.
Apple IS the alternative to the monopoly and the tyranny of Microsoft.
Pick your poison!
James
P.S. I was just pointing out the rumors for the delays and the new hardware.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>....................so where does that leave those who just invested $3k
in
>a new Mac tower? Can the mobo, CPU and(possibly the RAM) be swapped out
and
>the new one dropped in the case to upgrade the machine? Mobo shouldn't cost
>more than $150.00....right?
>
>Here we go again........
>
>;o)
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>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45e85423$1@linux...
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>> Laptop prices are being cut??? Hardware? Hmmmm........
>> http://www.looprumors.com/article.php?new-mac-pro-redesign,7 62623722
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>> http://www.looprumors.com/article.php?apple-to-hold-special- event-at-nab,646098468
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>> Something's coming.
>>
>> James
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>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.looprumors.com/article.php?wheres-leopard,4201920 930
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #80999 is a reply to message #80996] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 11:08 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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James.........
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45e87196$1@linux...
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> It's not like the Mac somebody just bought is now going to be worthless.
> The stuff you recently bought is not worthless because some new whiz bang
> MOBO just came out with faster processors. And what would those new
> Processors
> cost anyways?
so it's worth half? Anyway, maybe more. sounds like from what Gene says that
Apple may have abandoned their Digidesign'esque marketing mode. that's a
good thing.
>
> You just said that computers become obsolete in 9 months. Yes, there is
> a thing called an upgrade cycle in the computer industry. Have you ever
> heard of Moore's law? Yes Apple MOBOs cost more to replace than buying an
> after market MOBO, but it's unlikely that you would have to do that.
I don't agree with this. I see trouble with Macs quite often.
The
> processors are upgradeable on the Apple Mac Pros, so there is an upgrade
> path. Mac users get a lot more use out of their Macs before they feel the
> need to upgrade, and the resale on Macs is a lot better. In short we get
> our moneys worth.
>
that is definitely a step in the right direction.
> You need to consider the OS that works with those Apple MOBOs. Of course
> in your mind nothing could be better than Windows. I use both and Windows
> sucks!
Again, we disagree, but that's pretty normal for Mac and PC folks to
disagree about this.
>
> Consider where Windows is going! Have you looked at the pros and cons of
> Vista? Talk about being locked in, you better take a closer look at Vista
> and not buy THAT marketing hype. What will Vista cost to add to you
> pieced
> together PC? What about all the software you will have to upgrade. For
> the full blown version it's $199 to upgrade and $299 for a new retail
> version.
> And security, it's still a joke. The alternative is not Linux. It's still
> not a viable option, it's just not quite ready for prime time, Mac OSX is!
this is definitely an issue that until recently hasn't reared it's ugly
head. Yes, windows is going in the same direction as Apple, which sucks,
IMHO. We'll see if it's a show stopper though. If it's just a matter of
upgrading hardware drivers, which any moron should be able to accomplish,
then it's not. If it's going to require all new hardware, then it is.
>
> There is only one version of Mac OSX and it's only $129, there's no slice
> and dice games. Every new Mac will come with Mac OSX and iLife for
> multimedia.
> Have you considered the benefits of Mac OSX? No, of course not. All you
> can see is the price tag.
Worng James. I have been playing with it on a pretty regular basis down at
our Mac store here which is about a block from my downtown office. It's very
elegant, but I don't ened elegance for what I do with music. I need stripped
down to the bare bones functionality that will do one thing and do it well
and allow me to control exactly how it works, right dow to ripping the guts
out of the OS, bastardizing the registry and other things that *I* want to
do. If Vista disallows this, then I'll be screwed no matter what platform I
use.
>
> What does a comparable Dell cost? You wont do that, it's too much. It's
> so much cheaper to build your own PC with Cheap after market parts. Well
> have at it! Good luck getting it all to work. You might want to count
> your
> time in to the equation and see what it is really costing you.
I get them to work every time James. Some take longer than others to burn
in, depending on what specific task I have planned for it. I have never
built a computer that didn't work...exactly the way I wanted it to, with
nothing at all running on it that I didn't want. I know that's not the Mac
paradign. I prefer my own paradign.
>
> I will say, although the Apple monitors are slick and high quality, you
> will
> probably never see me buy one. They are too high priced, and there are
> reasonable
> alternatives. It's not the same situation with their computers. If more
> people bought Apple computers I believe they would come down in price. To
> some degree, it's supply and demand.
the Dell 2407's aver very nice. I just picked up three of them. Worth a look
(pun intended ;o)
>
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think Apple computers are
> more
> expensive than they should be, but you get what you pay for. The quality
> is great, the designs are cool, and the OS makes it all worth it!
> Headache
> free computing!!! That's worth the price of admission.
>
> Apple IS the alternative to the monopoly and the tyranny of Microsoft.
Or an alternative tyranny, depending on what is important to the end user.
>
> Pick your poison!
>
> James
>
> P.S. I was just pointing out the rumors for the delays and the new
> hardware.
It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS business
model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen) then
Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
Regards,
Deej
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81006 is a reply to message #81004] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 11:52 |
Jamie K
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DJ wrote:
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45e87dfd@linux...
>>> It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS business
>>> model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen) then
>>> Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Deej
>> ...and one thing that might tip me toward Apple is the new digital audio
>> app that is rumored to be in the works to replace Logic. Lots of very cool
>> ideas there if the patents that Gene posted are any indication of where
>> they are going with this. Once in native land, there's much more freedom.
>> Getting one's head around a particular (or multiple) app(s) is a lot
>> easier than getting one's head around how to make a certain app do things
>> that aren't fundamentally part of it's functional design.........although
>> it's fun to experiment with this stuff.
>>
>> ;o)
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> .......and, of course, once MS figures out a way to steal it, it will then
> eventually become more of an open source thing and will improve and become
> less expensive.
MS doing open source? Good one, Deej.
They are all about "embrace and extend," to close things up so they are
the only source, then call it a "standard." It's a billion dollar idea,
and only criminal sometimes...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
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> ;o)
>
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81008 is a reply to message #81006] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 12:05 |
Deej [4]
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"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45e88095$1@linux...
> DJ wrote:
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45e87dfd@linux...
>>>> It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS
>>>> business
>>>> model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen)
>>>> then Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>> ...and one thing that might tip me toward Apple is the new digital audio
>>> app that is rumored to be in the works to replace Logic. Lots of very
>>> cool ideas there if the patents that Gene posted are any indication of
>>> where they are going with this. Once in native land, there's much more
>>> freedom. Getting one's head around a particular (or multiple) app(s) is
>>> a lot easier than getting one's head around how to make a certain app do
>>> things that aren't fundamentally part of it's functional
>>> design.........although it's fun to experiment with this stuff.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> .......and, of course, once MS figures out a way to steal it, it will
>> then eventually become more of an open source thing and will improve and
>> become less expensive.
>
> MS doing open source? Good one, Deej.
>
> They are all about "embrace and extend," to close things up so they are
> the only source, then call it a "standard." It's a billion dollar idea,
> and only criminal sometimes...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
heheh!!!........it's all relative, right?
;o)
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81013 is a reply to message #81008] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 12:20 |
Chris Ludwig
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Hey DJ,
Microsoft will bend you over and screw you.
Apple is better cuz they will at least give you a reach around!!!
Chris
DJ wrote:
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45e88095$1@linux...
>> DJ wrote:
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45e87dfd@linux...
>>>>> It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS
>>>>> business
>>>>> model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen)
>>>>> then Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>> ...and one thing that might tip me toward Apple is the new digital audio
>>>> app that is rumored to be in the works to replace Logic. Lots of very
>>>> cool ideas there if the patents that Gene posted are any indication of
>>>> where they are going with this. Once in native land, there's much more
>>>> freedom. Getting one's head around a particular (or multiple) app(s) is
>>>> a lot easier than getting one's head around how to make a certain app do
>>>> things that aren't fundamentally part of it's functional
>>>> design.........although it's fun to experiment with this stuff.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> .......and, of course, once MS figures out a way to steal it, it will
>>> then eventually become more of an open source thing and will improve and
>>> become less expensive.
>> MS doing open source? Good one, Deej.
>>
>> They are all about "embrace and extend," to close things up so they are
>> the only source, then call it a "standard." It's a billion dollar idea,
>> and only criminal sometimes...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> heheh!!!........it's all relative, right?
>
> ;o)
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81014 is a reply to message #81013] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 12:22 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
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oooohhhh mannnn!!!!!..thanks for the visual
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45e8874c@linux...
> Hey DJ,
> Microsoft will bend you over and screw you.
> Apple is better cuz they will at least give you a reach around!!!
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>> news:45e88095$1@linux...
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45e87dfd@linux...
>>>>>> It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen)
>>>>>> then Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>> ...and one thing that might tip me toward Apple is the new digital
>>>>> audio app that is rumored to be in the works to replace Logic. Lots of
>>>>> very cool ideas there if the patents that Gene posted are any
>>>>> indication of where they are going with this. Once in native land,
>>>>> there's much more freedom. Getting one's head around a particular (or
>>>>> multiple) app(s) is a lot easier than getting one's head around how to
>>>>> make a certain app do things that aren't fundamentally part of it's
>>>>> functional design.........although it's fun to experiment with this
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> .......and, of course, once MS figures out a way to steal it, it will
>>>> then eventually become more of an open source thing and will improve
>>>> and become less expensive.
>>> MS doing open source? Good one, Deej.
>>>
>>> They are all about "embrace and extend," to close things up so they are
>>> the only source, then call it a "standard." It's a billion dollar idea,
>>> and only criminal sometimes...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>> heheh!!!........it's all relative, right?
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81017 is a reply to message #81014] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 12:41 |
Chris Ludwig
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make a great new apple commercial
DJ wrote:
> oooohhhh mannnn!!!!!..thanks for the visual
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:45e8874c@linux...
>> Hey DJ,
>> Microsoft will bend you over and screw you.
>> Apple is better cuz they will at least give you a reach around!!!
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>> news:45e88095$1@linux...
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45e87dfd@linux...
>>>>>>> It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS
>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>> model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen)
>>>>>>> then Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>> ...and one thing that might tip me toward Apple is the new digital
>>>>>> audio app that is rumored to be in the works to replace Logic. Lots of
>>>>>> very cool ideas there if the patents that Gene posted are any
>>>>>> indication of where they are going with this. Once in native land,
>>>>>> there's much more freedom. Getting one's head around a particular (or
>>>>>> multiple) app(s) is a lot easier than getting one's head around how to
>>>>>> make a certain app do things that aren't fundamentally part of it's
>>>>>> functional design.........although it's fun to experiment with this
>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>> .......and, of course, once MS figures out a way to steal it, it will
>>>>> then eventually become more of an open source thing and will improve
>>>>> and become less expensive.
>>>> MS doing open source? Good one, Deej.
>>>>
>>>> They are all about "embrace and extend," to close things up so they are
>>>> the only source, then call it a "standard." It's a billion dollar idea,
>>>> and only criminal sometimes...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>> heheh!!!........it's all relative, right?
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81019 is a reply to message #80999] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 14:06 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>James.........
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45e87196$1@linux...
>>
>> It's not like the Mac somebody just bought is now going to be worthless.
>> The stuff you recently bought is not worthless because some new whiz bang
>> MOBO just came out with faster processors. And what would those new
>> Processors
>> cost anyways?
>
>so it's worth half? Anyway, maybe more. sounds like from what Gene says
that
>Apple may have abandoned their Digidesign'esque marketing mode. that's a
>good thing.
>>
Worth half, how do you figure? Processors have been upgradable in Macs pro
models for many years, you know that. Ram, and hard drives are upgradeable
in all models, and always have been.
>> You just said that computers become obsolete in 9 months. Yes, there
is
>> a thing called an upgrade cycle in the computer industry. Have you ever
>> heard of Moore's law? Yes Apple MOBOs cost more to replace than buying
an
>> after market MOBO, but it's unlikely that you would have to do that.
>
>I don't agree with this. I see trouble with Macs quite often.
>
You better go look it up.
>The
>> processors are upgradeable on the Apple Mac Pros, so there is an upgrade
>> path. Mac users get a lot more use out of their Macs before they feel
the
>> need to upgrade, and the resale on Macs is a lot better. In short we
get
>> our moneys worth.
>>
>
>that is definitely a step in the right direction.
>
>> You need to consider the OS that works with those Apple MOBOs. Of course
>> in your mind nothing could be better than Windows. I use both and Windows
>> sucks!
>
>Again, we disagree, but that's pretty normal for Mac and PC folks to
>disagree about this.
Fine, but you really should use a new Mac every day for a year and then get
back to me to tell me how bad it sucks. You'd have a whole different opinion.
>>
>> Consider where Windows is going! Have you looked at the pros and cons
of
>> Vista? Talk about being locked in, you better take a closer look at Vista
>> and not buy THAT marketing hype. What will Vista cost to add to you
>> pieced
>> together PC? What about all the software you will have to upgrade. For
>> the full blown version it's $199 to upgrade and $299 for a new retail
>> version.
>> And security, it's still a joke. The alternative is not Linux. It's still
>> not a viable option, it's just not quite ready for prime time, Mac OSX
is!
>
>this is definitely an issue that until recently hasn't reared it's ugly
>head. Yes, windows is going in the same direction as Apple, which sucks,
>IMHO. We'll see if it's a show stopper though. If it's just a matter of
>upgrading hardware drivers, which any moron should be able to accomplish,
>then it's not. If it's going to require all new hardware, then it is.
>>
Well, this may be news to you but MS has been trying to copy and rip off
Apple's Macintosh graphical user interface for more than 20 years. Vista's
look and feel is a blatant rip off of Mac OSX. It's nothing more than a
bad knock off of OSX. Vista is years behind Mac OSX development. The restriction
that are built in to Vista and the all the things I've read are disturbing.
I don't see why buying new hardware would bother you. The hardware you
buy is dirt cheap, and you do that anyways.
>> There is only one version of Mac OSX and it's only $129, there's no slice
>> and dice games. Every new Mac will come with Mac OSX and iLife for
>> multimedia.
>> Have you considered the benefits of Mac OSX? No, of course not. All
you
>> can see is the price tag.
>
>Worng James. I have been playing with it on a pretty regular basis down
at
>our Mac store here which is about a block from my downtown office. It's
very
>elegant, but I don't ened elegance for what I do with music. I need stripped
>down to the bare bones functionality that will do one thing and do it well
>and allow me to control exactly how it works, right dow to ripping the guts
>out of the OS, bastardizing the registry and other things that *I* want
to
>do. If Vista disallows this, then I'll be screwed no matter what platform
I
>use.
>
Playing with Mac OSX is not the same as using it on a daily basis for a year,
and really learning it.
Like I've said before, your stuck in a mind set that you have to tinker with
the OS in order to get good performance. You don't have to do that with
a Mac! That is what Mac users have been trying to tell you here for some
time now. There are no real performance problems with Macs. You will get
great performance right out of the box. You can tweak a mac a bit for performance,
but after that it's a waist of time. You can hack a Mac. You can strip
out the software,but it's unnecessary. You can easily get in to some of
the code through a terminal, but it's so unnecessary!
You don't have to worry about security on a mac like you do with a PC. You
can actually go on the internet with your audio work station and not be concerned
about viruses, worms, mole ware, spy ware, pop ups, or any of that shit!
And you don't have to load a bunch of software on your system to counter
all that stuff. No time, no hassle, no expense! Wanting to hack your Mac
for performance is like yanking the engine out of a Rolls Royce to drop in
a Ford 302.
>>
>> What does a comparable Dell cost? You wont do that, it's too much. It's
>> so much cheaper to build your own PC with Cheap after market parts. Well
>> have at it! Good luck getting it all to work. You might want to count
>> your
>> time in to the equation and see what it is really costing you.
>
>I get them to work every time James. Some take longer than others to burn
>in, depending on what specific task I have planned for it. I have never
>built a computer that didn't work...exactly the way I wanted it to, with
>nothing at all running on it that I didn't want. I know that's not the Mac
>paradign. I prefer my own paradign.
>
You've had a lot of problems over the years which cost you time and money.
It's like building your own car from the ground up with cheap parts. Dropping
a 450 hp. engine in it, and saying it's faster than my new 385 hp Corvette.
Then going on to say that your is better because it was way cheaper to build
than my new 50K Corvette, and it's faster. Your missing all the safety features
and engineering that went in to the price tag. You need to account for your
time, to shop, build, find drivers, load software, fuss with, tweak, burn
in, and maintain your built PC. I'll bet it's a lot more time than you think
it is. There is the issue of all the cheap parts that have gone bad on you.
You need to account for all your time, expense and hassle to be fair.
If this is what you really WANT to do, more power to you.
>>
>> I will say, although the Apple monitors are slick and high quality, you
>> will
>> probably never see me buy one. They are too high priced, and there are
>> reasonable
>> alternatives. It's not the same situation with their computers. If more
>> people bought Apple computers I believe they would come down in price.
To
>> some degree, it's supply and demand.
>
>the Dell 2407's aver very nice. I just picked up three of them. Worth a
look
>(pun intended ;o)
Imo, way in the hell over priced. To each his own.
>>
>> I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think Apple computers are
>> more
>> expensive than they should be, but you get what you pay for. The quality
>> is great, the designs are cool, and the OS makes it all worth it!
>> Headache
>> free computing!!! That's worth the price of admission.
>>
>> Apple IS the alternative to the monopoly and the tyranny of Microsoft.
>
>Or an alternative tyranny, depending on what is important to the end user.
>>
>> Pick your poison!
>>
>> James
>>
>> P.S. I was just pointing out the rumors for the delays and the new
>> hardware.
>
>It will be interesting to see what the future brings. If the MS business
>model starts resembling that of Apple (which looks like will happen) then
>Apple may really look like a more viable evil.
>
>Regards,
>
>Deej
>
>
Even comparing Apple to Microsoft's business or business practices and calling
Apple evil is so wrong! Maybe you should go read up on the real history
of the computer industry.
James
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| Re: Where's Leopard? [message #81021 is a reply to message #80999] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 14:26 |
DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I don't agree with this. I see trouble with Macs quite often.
Having worked on a bunch, I tell you that some of 'em break a lot.
My iBook is on it's 4th logic board. All under warranty (after
a threatened class-action)
I can also tell you that some do not break at all.
There are models that I have never seen a failure in. Even my
little el-cheapo Mini here has been flawless. The Blue and White
G3's don't break, the old Quadras we used for mastering don't
break, the 9600's used for Avid don't break, and the new G5's
seem to be pretty darn solid.
I am sure there are PC's just as good, but the price will equal
a Mac in my experience. IM-ever-so-HO the average quality
of Macs is better than the average PC, but then they should be
at these prices huh? That don't mean you won't get one
you want to drop-kick...
I just don't care about platform wars until some d*ck (and there
have been many over the years) says "Apple is finished".
They've been saying that, and drooling while they speak, for
15 years now.
I don't care about the box, (till it breaks) I care about the music...
DC
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