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OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84953] Mon, 21 May 2007 17:02 Go to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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FIrst, I'm running v2 on a Mac right now.

I just tracked the last concert at the theatre - more or less 16
tracks for two hours.

I want the finished product to be continuous with track markers.

I know I can just split it into two halves, mix those, drop 'em into a
mastering program and lay in track markers.

However, as you can imagine, keeping your focus for an hour at a time
watching up to 16 channels can be damn tough. I've ruined several
takes because my brain wandered when I was supposed to bring something
up or down.

What I really want to know is if there's a way to tell Paris to stop
exactly on a marker. I can drop in markers for where I want each
track to start and stop, mix those chunks, and then drop the chunks
into Toast with zero gappage.

Can this be done? I want this thing done, but having to keep full
attention for an hour at a time is getting to be a problem.

Thanks!

pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84958 is a reply to message #84953] Mon, 21 May 2007 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Cut your tracks, all of them, on markers.
Render selections, name/folder them as you see fit.
Mix each in it's own PPJ.

AA


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
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> FIrst, I'm running v2 on a Mac right now.
>
> I just tracked the last concert at the theatre - more or less 16
> tracks for two hours.
>
> I want the finished product to be continuous with track markers.
>
> I know I can just split it into two halves, mix those, drop 'em into a
> mastering program and lay in track markers.
>
> However, as you can imagine, keeping your focus for an hour at a time
> watching up to 16 channels can be damn tough. I've ruined several
> takes because my brain wandered when I was supposed to bring something
> up or down.
>
> What I really want to know is if there's a way to tell Paris to stop
> exactly on a marker. I can drop in markers for where I want each
> track to start and stop, mix those chunks, and then drop the chunks
> into Toast with zero gappage.
>
> Can this be done? I want this thing done, but having to keep full
> attention for an hour at a time is getting to be a problem.
>
> Thanks!
>
> pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84960 is a reply to message #84953] Mon, 21 May 2007 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
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Paul,
I don't think you can get Paris to automatically stop or start on marker
points.
Could you split the project out across several submixes? You could break it
into thirty minute chunks -one chunk for each submix. If you moved each
"chunk" ahead to its proper place on the original time line, you could then
use render to disk to get a seamless two track mix when you're done.
Take care, MR

"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:dgc4531klks56jm2l74h1tbv247o2psrmi@4ax.com...
> FIrst, I'm running v2 on a Mac right now.
>
> I just tracked the last concert at the theatre - more or less 16
> tracks for two hours.
>
> I want the finished product to be continuous with track markers.
>
> I know I can just split it into two halves, mix those, drop 'em into a
> mastering program and lay in track markers.
>
> However, as you can imagine, keeping your focus for an hour at a time
> watching up to 16 channels can be damn tough. I've ruined several
> takes because my brain wandered when I was supposed to bring something
> up or down.
>
> What I really want to know is if there's a way to tell Paris to stop
> exactly on a marker. I can drop in markers for where I want each
> track to start and stop, mix those chunks, and then drop the chunks
> into Toast with zero gappage.
>
> Can this be done? I want this thing done, but having to keep full
> attention for an hour at a time is getting to be a problem.
>
> Thanks!
>
> pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84961 is a reply to message #84958] Mon, 21 May 2007 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 20:00:56 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>Cut your tracks, all of them, on markers.
>Render selections, name/folder them as you see fit.
>Mix each in it's own PPJ.
>
>AA

Problem with that is I'm running Paris 2 - so I can't just render 'em
out. I"m stuck with realtime rendering.

I can split and mix each as it's own ppj, but then I have to import
each track into a wave editor and cut each one exactly at the start
and end so they play back seamlessly.....

Or am I missing something here?

pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84965 is a reply to message #84961] Mon, 21 May 2007 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
michael bliss is currently offline  michael bliss
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just find where you want to split the tracks and select all and cut on marker
line. Then, move all the first section into a new project. Name it something
else, since it's a new song, or first half... etc!
That's what Aaron was talking about.

mb

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 21 May 2007 20:00:56 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
><know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>Cut your tracks, all of them, on markers.
>>Render selections, name/folder them as you see fit.
>>Mix each in it's own PPJ.
>>
>>AA
>
>Problem with that is I'm running Paris 2 - so I can't just render 'em
>out. I"m stuck with realtime rendering.
>
>I can split and mix each as it's own ppj, but then I have to import
>each track into a wave editor and cut each one exactly at the start
>and end so they play back seamlessly.....
>
>Or am I missing something here?
>
>pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84968 is a reply to message #84961] Mon, 21 May 2007 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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If I remember right, you could export segments in ver 2.xx ... would this
work for ya?

AA


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 May 2007 20:00:56 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>Cut your tracks, all of them, on markers.
>>Render selections, name/folder them as you see fit.
>>Mix each in it's own PPJ.
>>
>>AA
>
> Problem with that is I'm running Paris 2 - so I can't just render 'em
> out. I"m stuck with realtime rendering.
>
> I can split and mix each as it's own ppj, but then I have to import
> each track into a wave editor and cut each one exactly at the start
> and end so they play back seamlessly.....
>
> Or am I missing something here?
>
> pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84974 is a reply to message #84968] Mon, 21 May 2007 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:47:25 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>If I remember right, you could export segments in ver 2.xx ... would this
>work for ya?
>
>AA
>

Nope. That feature was added in ver 3.

pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84975 is a reply to message #84965] Mon, 21 May 2007 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On 22 May 2007 12:51:00 +1000, "michael bliss" <mbliss1@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>just find where you want to split the tracks and select all and cut on marker
>line. Then, move all the first section into a new project. Name it something
>else, since it's a new song, or first half... etc!
>That's what Aaron was talking about.
>

I'll probably just find more convenient break points - like mentioned
before, say somewhere around 30min each. It should be easy enough to
find a spot that will allow me to split without creating an obvious
edit point in the finished tracks.

If I would just spend the $300 to get v.3, I could render segments.
But I can't justify that, especially considering the current state of
support. If I'm dropping $300 on a piece of software, there better be
soemone there to support it.

pab
Re: OK, I need help with logistics on a long recording [message #84982 is a reply to message #84974] Mon, 21 May 2007 22:02 Go to previous message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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I know there's a way, I had to do it with a nightmare of a project for
Wayman ( on a client project ) before Ver 3 came out copying out tracks that
were duplicated from the intro of the album to the end.... I tell you what
man, now you've got my curiousity on this one. Might've been the adat
loopback but I sure thought we exported off and duped tracks in software. I
have to drive to Dallas tomorrow but I'll try to figure this out when I get
back, might even toss an EDS in a spare PC and load 2.2 on it. I'd hate to
foul up my normal rig, so it may take a little timeto build off a new one to
test with.
Holla back here if you figure it out or give up in the meanwhile.

AA


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:47:25 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>If I remember right, you could export segments in ver 2.xx ... would this
>>work for ya?
>>
>>AA
>>
>
> Nope. That feature was added in ver 3.
>
> pab
>
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