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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58881 is a reply to message #58876] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 00:47   |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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mucho full. I've got projects a year old that i need to
>finish!
>>
>>Really, all i've done is take the Royer mod and apply it to different mics.
>>It's REAL easy if ya know which end of the soldering iron is the hot end.
>>
>>If yer clueless on this stuff (and if memory serves, you're not!) it's
still
>>an easy project.
>>
>>Keep the capsule and body and just wire in the Royer circuit, etc.
>>
>>I've got geetars, pre-amps, mics, landscaping, truck repair, etc. stacked
>>up on me and just can't take on any outside stuff at this time.
>>
>>deadline stress is bad for Mikey!
>>
>>...and hey! Texas beat OU and we've got a.......cabrito, although it looks
>>like a Doberman to me....on a spit! Dobey tacos and ice cold beer! Yeah
>buddy!!!
>>
>>life is ......weird.
>>
>>
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Mike, Wanna mod a mic for me????
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?p=450412#post4504 12
>>>>
>>>>Zombies, eh?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............brains!
>>>
>>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, I should clarify, what I actaully want to do is upgrade a tube mic,
>not transform a mxl2001 into a tube mic. A lower noise floor is the main
>goal.
Which mic are you looking to mod, Cuj? Just curious.
NeilPPa LD2ube.
There is a bit of a buzz, They have sent me 3 mics, they all do it.
It actually sound fairly nice. OF course a little edgy. New caps may smooth
this out? The jensen tranny may get me more low end detail. It also seems
to murk up in front of loud stuff, say a heavy drummer. But, it does this
in sort of a cool way.
Looks like buzz could be in the PS or mic not grounded to the chasis properly.
The buzz kills me though, oh and once in a while a get the Langoliers crunching
sound. This isn't so bad for rawk, but no good on an R&B track done whith
drum loops.
"Neil" <IUOIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, I should clarify, what I actaully want to do is upgrade a tube mic,
>>not transform a mxl2001 into a tube mic. A lower noise floor is the main
>>goal.
>
>Which mic are you looking to mod, Cuj? Just curious.
>
>Neil
>
>why not just record nothing in Paris. That's what I do. I have a :30 file
like that.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>Just in wavelab record nothing for 1 sec and then copy this for hundreds
of
>times until you get say a 5 minute file.
>then save as paf.
>I will take next question :)
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:43487b76@linux...
>> I made mine by putting Paris in record at the desired sample rate, looping
>a
>> digital input to a mixer in the patchbay for Paris and feeding it no
>audio.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:43485317$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Hey D,
>> > Thanks for the Email.
>> > I am going to bombard you wiht questions soon.
>> > I need to make a ghost of my sytem first.
>> > How do you mak a silent PAF file?
>> > Sorry if this is a dumb question.
>> >
>> > "Dimitrios" <
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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58887 is a reply to message #58881] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 11:28 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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t; wasn't that supposed to cause overheating?
> >> >>> Also I guess we'd want Chainer for more inserts for this.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I need to get my head around these new numbers as I use that old DX
> >> >>wrapper
> >> >>> where aI do 4x100 to the left then sample slide 1058 or whatever to
> >the
> >> >>right
> >> >>> again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You are an intrepid man D, the idea of messing with my working
system
> >> >>gives
> >> >>> me nightmares
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >>> >Now the most obvious trick I missed (well didn't think that would
> >work
> >> >>but
> >> >>> >it does !) was to just to nudge the audio tracks you wanna use
with
> >> >>> >senderella for 100ms to the left and just put in a slot after
> >> >>> >senderella
> >> >>> >voxengo (free) sample delay 384 samples to the right.
> >> >>> >Remember 100ms=4480 samples - 384 = 4096
> >> >>> >That is if you use Spinaudio wrapper that lowers buffer with a
4096
> >UAD
> >> >>> >plugin latency.
> >> >>> >If you will use multifxvst then use 50ms nudge to the left and 182
> to
> >> > the
> >> >>> >right ( 50ms=2240 - 192 = 2048)
> >> >>> >Regards,
> >> >>> >Dimitrios
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>I for one am not easy!
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>Yes well, I think because that is too easy !
>:)
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:43496148$1@linux...
>>
>> why not just record nothing in Paris. That's what I do. I have a :30 file
>> like that.
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >Just in wavelab record nothing for 1 sec and then copy this for hundreds
>> of
>> >times until you get say a 5 minute file.
>> >then save as paf.
>> >I will take next question :)
>> >Regards,
>> >Dimitrios
>> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:43487b76@linux...
>> >> I made mine by putting Paris in record at the desired sample rate,
>looping
>> >a
>> >> digital input to a mixer in the patchbay for Paris and feeding it
no
>> >audio.
>> >> AA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> >news:43485317$1@linux...
>> >> >
>> >> > Hey D,
>> >> > Thanks for the Email.
>> >> > I am going to bombard you wiht questions soon.
>> >> > I need to make a ghost of my sytem first.
>> >> > How do you mak a silent PAF file?
>> >> > Sorry if this is a dumb question.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >> >>He,
>> >> >>Yeah well,
>> >> >>I didn't mean to make any harm to your system....
>> >> >>
>> >> >>EDSTransfer 8,16 is better and more relaxed than 8,8.
>> >> >>I use this for 4-5 months now ,no problem at all.
>> >> >>The 8,8 causes slow disk transfers with many tracks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Yes your old UAD1 wraps are 16384 samples long....
>> >> >>Chainer is a way to go.
>> >> >>But download this Spinaudio lite for free to wrap around chainer
to
>> >lower
>> >> >>the latency to 4096 samples.
>> >> >>That is 1/4 of your "working" latency.
>> >> >>If you are adventureous inserts the FREE multifxvst inside chainer
>and
>> >> >>then
>> >> >>load UAD to go down to 2048 samples ! latent around 40ms...
>> >> >>Not bad right ?
>> >
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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58888 is a reply to message #58887] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 11:49 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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> >>Yes you were right about the compensation but at that special time
it
>> >did
>> >> >>not work for me !!
>> >> >>I guess I did something wrong then.
>> >> >>Now this is a great method of compensating.
>> >> >>Senderella is a great adventure to be taken for Paris.
>> >> >>I hope and someone else will try it too and test it ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I will post all that I know about senderella and wrapping and
>> >compensating
>> >> >>in one long updated post....
>> >> >>Cheers,
>> >> >>Dimitrios
>> >> >>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4347d7f0@linux...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Yeah this is they way I was thinking you could do it a while ago.
>> >> >>> But I thought Senderella was not wokring unless you did the 8.8
ine
>> in
>> >> >>tghe
>> >> >>> config.
>> >> >>> wasn't that supposed to cause overheating?
>> >> >>> Also I guess we'd want Chainer for more inserts for this.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I need to get my head around these new numbers as I use that old
DX
>> >> >>wrapper
>> >> >>> where aI do 4x100 to the left then sample slide 1058 or whatever
to
>> >the
>> >> >>right
>> >> >>> again.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You are an intrepid man D, the idea of messing with my working
>system
>> >> >>gives
>> >> >>> me nightmares
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >> >>> >Now the most obvious trick I missed (well didn't think that would
>> >work
>> >> >>but
>> >> >>> >it does !) was to just to nudge the audio tracks you wanna use
>with
>> >> >>> >senderella for 100ms to the left and just put in a slot after
>> >> >>> >senderella
>> >> >>> >voxengo (free) sample delay 384 samples to the right.
>> >> >>> >Remember 100ms=4480 samples - 384 = 4096
>> >> >>> >That is if you use Spinaudio wrapper that lowers buffer with a
>4096
>> >UAD
>> >> >>> >plugin latency.
>> >> >>> >If you will use multifxvst then use 50ms nudge to the left and
182
>> to
>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >right ( 50ms=2240 - 192 = 2048)
>> >> >>> >Regards,
>> >> >>> >Dimitrios
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>In order for this to be really effective, you need to record nothing, copy
this to an adjacent track, invert the phase and then do a bounce.
;oP
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4349668d@linux...
> Yes well, I think because that is too easy !
> :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:43496148$1@linux...
> >
> > why not just record nothing in Paris. That's what I do. I have a :30
file
> > like that.
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >Just in wavelab record nothing for 1 sec and then copy this for
hundreds
> > of
> > >times until you get say a 5 minute file.
> > >then save as paf.
> > >I will take next question :)
> > >Regards,
> > >Dimitrios
> > >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:43487b76@linux...
> > >> I made mine by putting Paris in record at the desired sample rate,
> looping
> > >a
> > >> digital input to a mixer in the patchbay for Paris and feeding it no
> > >audio.
> > >> AA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> > >news:43485317$1@linux...
> > >> >
> > >> > Hey D,
> > >> > Thanks for the Email.
> > >> > I am going to bombard you wiht questions soon.
> > >> > I need to make a ghost of my sytem first.
> > >> > How do you mak a silent PAF file?
> > >> > Sorry if this is a dumb question.
> > >> >
> > >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >> >>He,
> > >> >>Yeah well,
> > >> >>I didn't mean to make any harm to your system....
> > >> >&g
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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58889 is a reply to message #58888] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 12:04 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
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t;
> > >> >>EDSTransfer 8,16 is better and more relaxed than 8,8.
> > >> >>I use this for 4-5 months now ,no problem at all.
> > >> >>The 8,8 causes slow disk transfers with many tracks.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Yes your old UAD1 wraps are 16384 samples long....
> > >> >>Chainer is a way to go.
> > >> >>But download this Spinaudio lite for free to wrap around chainer to
> > >lower
> > >> >>the latency to 4096 samples.
> > >> >>That is 1/4 of your "working" latency.
> > >> >>If you are adventureous inserts the FREE multifxvst inside chainer
> and
> > >> >>then
> > >> >>load UAD to go down to 2048 samples ! latent around 40ms...
> > >> >>Not bad right ?
> > >> >>Yes you were right about the compensation but at that special time
it
> > >did
> > >> >>not work for me !!
> > >> >>I guess I did something wrong then.
> > >> >>Now this is a great method of compensating.
> > >> >>Senderella is a great adventure to be taken for Paris.
> > >> >>I hope and someone else will try it too and test it ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I will post all that I know about senderella and wrapping and
> > >compensating
> > >> >>in one long updated post....
> > >> >>Cheers,
> > >> >>Dimitrios
> > >> >>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> > >news:4347d7f0@linux...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Yeah this is they way I was thinking you could do it a while ago.
> > >> >>> But I thought Senderella was not wokring unless you did the 8.8
ine
> > in
> > >> >>tghe
> > >> >>> config.
> > >> >>> wasn't that supposed to cause overheating?
> > >> >>> Also I guess we'd want Chainer for more inserts for this.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I need to get my head around these new numbers as I use that old
DX
> > >> >>wrapper
> > >> >>> where aI do 4x100 to the left then sample slide 1058 or whatever
to
> > >the
> > >> >>right
> > >> >>> again.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You are an intrepid man D, the idea of messing with my working
> system
> > >> >>gives
> > >> >>> me nightmares
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >> >>> >Now the most obvious trick I missed (well didn't think that
would
> > >work
> > >> >>but
> > >> >>> >it does !) was to just to nudge the audio tracks you wanna use
> with
> > >> >>> >senderella for 100ms to the left and just put in a slot after
> > >> >>> >senderella
> > >> >>> >voxengo (free) sample delay 384 samples to the right.
> > >> >>> >Remember 100ms=4480 samples - 384 = 4096
> > >> >>> >That is if you use Spinaudio wrapper that lowers buffer with a
> 4096
> > >UAD
> > >> >>> >plugin latency.
> > >> >>> >If you will use multifxvst then use 50ms nudge to the left and
182
> > to
> > >> > the
> > >> >>> >right ( 50ms=2240 - 192 = 2048)
> > >> >>> >Regards,
> > >> >>> >Dimitrios
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>You know, I have read some reports that people actually percieve a difference
between audio sampled at 44k, and audio sampled at 96k. I don't have any
96k converters, or I'd give it a shot myself. In all things audio, I'd trust
this group's ears over
m(any) others.
If it is audible I'd propose three possiblities:
-Our ears are much more sensitive than perviously thought or measured. (I'd
tend to doubt this one...)
-We do "hear" the higher frequencies, but with senses other than our ears.
Perhaps our skin, or fine hair on the skin. Much like someone who is deaf
"listens" to music, we are able to percieve the higher frequencies.
or...
-Its a sort of placebo effect. We think it's there, so it's there.
Any thoughts???
MRSeemed like the slutz were having some fun with that thread.
What's your worst gear purchase?
I'll go first.
1969 My first electric guitar. Went to a thrift shop and there was a
Jazzmaster that looked cool. Only 55.00! So, I sold a bunch of
stuff and bought it. It needed a knob so I took it to the local
Fender dealer and his service guy about fell off his chair. It was
a cheap knockoff (Fender decal and all) from the Phillipines!
(evidently some of the servicemen buy them and bring them back)
No truss rod, green wood in the neck, wavy plastic on the pickguard.
Total POS. Worth nothing.
ArrgGGGGGHHHHH...
I'm 16 right, and know nothing about guitars, but I do know I am
in a world of caca, and now I have no money.
So, I go back to the thrift store, having cooked up a story about
having sold something that wasn't mine and now I am in trouble, and
the guy gave me my 55.00 back...
Whew...
Went and bought a real Fender (Jaguar this time) and finally got my
heartbeat down to 195 or so....
DCDoes it taste like chicken?
"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:43488518$1@linux...
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> Man, my plate is mucho full. I've got projects a year old that i need to
finish!
>
> Really, all i've done is take the Royer mod and apply it to different
mics.
> It's REAL easy if ya know which end of the soldering iron
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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58890 is a reply to message #58888] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 16:26 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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is the hot end.
>
> If yer clueless on this stuff (and if memory serves, you're not!) it's
still
> an easy project.
>
> Keep the capsule and body and just wire in the Royer circuit, etc.
>
> I've got geetars, pre-amps, mics, landscaping, truck repair, etc. stacked
> up on me and just can't take on any outside stuff at this time.
>
> deadline stress is bad for Mikey!
>
> ...and hey! Texas beat OU and we've got a.......cabrito, although it looks
> like a Doberman to me....on a spit! Dobey tacos and ice cold beer! Yeah
buddy!!!
>
> life is ......weird.
>
>
>
> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey Mike, Wanna mod a mic for me????
> >
> >
> >"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?p=450412#post4504 12
> >>
> >>Zombies, eh?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............brains!
> >
>Here's my .02
1. Everything has to be equal. *Almost always* when someone
complains about digital it is because of cheap convertors or bad
engineering. Compare the same convertor at different resolutions
and you can hear some difference. I've done this with a Lavry and
it is real, but of smaller magnitude of improvement than most people
expect.
The existence of so many recordings transferred back in the 80's
on the wretched convertors in the Sony 1630/40 mastering decks
is still causing complaints about "digital harshness".
I have done orchestras straight to 44.1 / 16 bits that have been
as smooth and sweet and detailed as anyone could expect and way
better sounding than any vinyl record could ever be.
2. It is not a matter of hearing the higher frequencies. We don't.
What we may hear is the transient response being better. One of the
things I learned from my power amp design friends is that you need
frequency response out to 250K or so for the transients to be
well reproduced. This may be an issue in digital also.
3. What many people are claiming to hear is not more highs, but
more detail. I hear more detail at very low levels on classical, where
you start running out of bits at 16. This is a real issue, but less so
for pop music since with most pop, the waveform is so compressed
it looks like a solid bar instead of a waveform.
4. There's always some placebo effect, and there have been a LOT
of bad sounding boxes sold on their high sample rates while the
bozo designers simply forgot about things like mic-pre quality,
component quality, basic circuit design and interface issues.
Recording engineers we have to be able to do 4 things well:
Never yell with headphones on
Coil cables properly
Hear where to EQ
Have minimal placebo effect. Yes, this can be learned.
In the end, I would rather engineer well, with good gear (and never in
the Pro Tools mix buss!) at red-book spec than use hi-rez stuff
that has less attention paid to the quality of each piece.
All things being equal, hi-res is better. But less than they say.
BTW, with the amazing popularity of iPods and the like, it seems as
if hi-res is no longer an issue since we can't even get beyond MP3
let alone red-book. I disagree. Right now, there are iPods with 60
gigabytes!
Now, a CD can only 700meg, so we could easily have iPods holding
86+ CD's of uncompressed audio! No MP3 crap! It's mainly an
access speed issue at this point, but I think it will happen, and then
hi-res will follow.
DC
"Mike R." <emare@not.com> wrote:
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>You know, I have read some reports that people actually percieve a difference
>between audio sampled at 44k, and audio sampled at 96k. I don't have any
>96k converters, or I'd give it a shot myself. In all things audio, I'd
trust
>this group's ears over
>m(any) others.
> If it is audible I'd propose three possiblities:
>-Our ears are much more sensitive than perviously thought or measured. (I'd
>tend to doubt this one...)
>-We do "hear" the higher frequencies, but with senses other than our ears.
> Perhaps our skin, or fine hair on the skin. Much like someone who is deaf
>"listens" to music, we are able to percieve the higher frequencies.
>or...
>-Its a sort of placebo effect. We think it's there, so it's there.
>Any thoughts???
>MR http://perso.wanadoo.fr/vb-audio/us/products/dxrack/dxrack.h tm
Scroll down to bottom of page....
el miguel
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:4347d881$1@linux...
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>
> D, can yu send it to me as well?
> I may get some courage soon from somewhere.
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >NP
> >Dimitrios
> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4346dc9b$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Rod
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >Rod, I have sent it to you...
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Dimitrios
> >> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:43468f5e$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> D..where's the 4 slot free version? I can't find it.
> >> >> Rod
> >> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >> >I don't know if anyone has come up to this but the free FFX4 DX
> >chainer
> >> >> or
> >> >> >the commercial buy of FFX16 can load the UAD plugins with VU
> >indications
> >> >> and
> >> >> >Preset handling.
> >> >> >The latency is 4096 for a normal UAD
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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58931 is a reply to message #58922] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 11:42 |
Dimitrios
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ld be eliminated. Still,
> there would need to be some way to adjust for the UAD-1 plugins like
> Fairchild and Pultec, which have different latency than the 1176 and
LA-2A,
> so this *exact* situation might not ever be possible.
>
> Dunno......just a thought.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:434a807e$1@linux...
> >
> > Dimitrios, thanks for the effort to put this together. I'm adding this
to
> > my "paris keepers" file.
> > MR
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >Ok,
> > >Due to the many posts that maybe misleading if you don't follow all of
> them
> > >in the right order I decided to summarize what I know regarding
> senderella
> > >and its use with Paris .
> > >
> > >1. Use inside Paris.cfg at the top the string EDSTransfer=8,16
> > You
> > >could use 8,8 but this has problems with audio streaming. The 8,16
seems
> > >like the magical number, remember I tried them all....
> > >This is needed because then Senderella works realtime NO LATENCY as a
> buss
> > >inside Paris.
> > >Senderella seems like the greatest discovery amoung FREE plugins for
> Paris,
> > >link: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1433.html
> > >Senderella newe
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| Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks [message #58965 is a reply to message #58952] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 23:21 |
excelav
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aos that existed before the birth of the universe,"
>the astrophysicist warned.
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>Some scientists say mankind's best hope would be to build a "space ark" and
>hightail it to the Andromeda Galaxy, 2.1 million light-years away.
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>"We wouldn't be able to save the entire human population, but perhaps the
>best and the brightest," observed British rocket scientist Dr. David Hall,
>when asked about the feasibility of such a project.
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>But even if such a craft could be built in time, evacuating Earth might prove
>fruitless if theories about the origin of the chaos cloud are correct.
>
>"A black hole at the center of Andromeda is about 15 times the size of the
>one in our own galaxy," Dr. Sherwinski noted. "It might be like jumping out
>of the frying pan into the fire."
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>Speaking under the condition of anonymity, a senior White House official
>said the president's top science advisors are taking the findings in stride.
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>"This is a lot like global warming, where the jury is still out on whether
>it's real or not," said the official.
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>"The existence of this so called chaos cloud is only a theory. Americans
>shouldn't panic until all the facts are in."my mac...it gave me an opportunity for a career change...;o)
On 11 Oct 2005 10:50:03 +1000, "DC" <dc@spamtheaussies.org> wrote:
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>Here's mine.
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>Yamaha UD Stomp. 8 delays, all programmable, in one box.
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>This thing does sounds you cannot believe. Allan Holdsworth
>programmed a bunch of the sounds and they are terrific.
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>Without a doubt, the best delay ever made. Everything from the
>exact doubling you were looking for, to the coolest flange to the
>widest chorus to the most amazing volume swells anywhere. True stereo,
>with simple pan controls for each delay line. You can setup
>most any delay effect you can imagine and still have a couple of
>delay lines left over.
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>They were originally around 700.00 USD. Being a pedal, it was a
>hard sell, and they almost immediately went out of production.
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>I got mine for 198.00 from Musician's Fiend (errr, friend) and wish
>I had bought 3. I would not sell it for 2K.
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>You can still catch Allan bidding for more of these on eBay. He uses
>2 live. They are already climbing back to the 300 range and I
>expect they will go higher.
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>DCOf course many, probably most, of the classic funk and soul keyboard sounds,
such as organ sounds and electric piano sounds, were created by actually
micing the amps rather than using a line signal, often with some slight overdrive
or other characteristics of the speakers and amps themselves evident.
I'm assuming I'm going to get a better emulation of sounds like this by actually
turning on some of the amp and speaker emulation in my GNX4. The GNX has
what I think is a fairly nice rotary speaker emulation, as well as a nice
tremelo effect, but seperate to this (yes I realise that a Leslie was a speaker
hence it should kinda be part of the speaker selection, but seperate) is
the amp and the speaker cabinet emulation. Unfortunately the GNX4 is p
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