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know what political party
she bleongs to, but I'm sure it will eventually get partisan and ugly and
then we will never know because all objectivity will fly away while the
interest groups try to cover their asses.
"DC" <dc@spamyeruncle.org> wrote in message news:4318eb36$1@linux...
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> He ought to get a medal. And perhaps a job running the evac.
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> http://www.newschannel5.tv/2005/9/1/4255/Taking-refuge-in-th e-Astrodome
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> DC
>Oh, and it gets worse...
Where were the buses that could have saved lives and misery?
Here:
http://junkyardblog.net/archives/week_2005_08_28.html#004749whatever heads will roll will be of the lower echelons variety.
always has and always will. crap i hope i spelt the e word correctly.
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:33:04 -0400, "uptown jimmy"
<johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I am not convinced that it's entirely FEMA's fault, or anybody else's.
>
>I do think, however, that heads are going to roll at the Federal level.
>That's how this sort of thing works. Somebody always takes the fall. And it
>usually ain't the true higher-ups; usually, it's the agency heads.
>
>Jimmy
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>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:4318e69e$1@linux...
>> I agree that this was pretty awful. Was it FEMA's fault? I don't know. How
>> effective would it have been to rush a bunch of stuff in there only to
>have
>> it be destroyed in a flood or commandeered by looters? I don't think
>anyone
>> knew what was going to happen, but if anyone should have had a reading on
>> this and their finger on the pulse of the whole thing, it should have been
>> local and state officials first off. I saw the evacuation announcement by
>> the mayor of NO. It wasn't persuasive at all and it was wayyyyy too late.
>He
>> should have had emergency personnel out in the neighborhoods convincing
>> community leaders to get onboard with a real evacuation. It's pretty
>obvious
>> that no one wanted to leave because they were afraid that if they did,
>> they'd lose their possessions to thieves......which is what happened
>anyway.
>> If you've ever lived in New Orleans, you know that the crime rate is bad
>and
>> if you don't cover your own ass right then and there, it's going to be too
>> little, too late when the cops show up. In the absence of a huge push from
>> local authorities, I can understand why these folks didn't want to leave.
>> The planning was bad, but the beginning of the disaster lies with the
>local
>> politica
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| Re: wow [message #57591 is a reply to message #57588] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 17:33 |
uptown jimmy
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sponse/index.html
>> > >
>> > >I am not a partisan person. I wish to god we could have a discussion
>> about
>> > >what is going on in the world without all the sanctimony and
>> > >self-righteousness.
>> > >
>> > >This link is to a CNN compare/contrast piece which succinctly
>summarizes
>> the
>> > >radical disconnect between the Feds and reality over the last few days.
>> > >
>> > >I repeat: heads will roll. I have a feeling they will include the head
>of
>> > >FEMA, Micheal Brown.
>> > >
>> > >I don't know how to account for the 5-day Federal bungling of this
>> horrible
>> > >mess, but I will watch with full attention as certain public officials
>> are
>> > >excoriated over this. Some of these folks will be pariahs for a long
>time
>> to
>> > >come.
>> > >
>> > >Jimmy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
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>Oh, and it gets worse...
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>Where were the buses that could have saved lives and misery?
>
>Here:
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> http://junkyardblog.net/archives/week_2005_08_28.html#004749
Argh! Fuckin' idiots... now that's local officials to blame as
much as it is FEMA - the locals know where the fucking buses
are located, FEMA doesn't... although it wouldn't hurt for them
to have a thing called a "list" for every major city.
And yeah the kid shouldn't be in jail... give him a slap on the
wrist 3-month probation because he DID break the law by
stealing the bus... but THEN give him a medal immediately
afterwards.
Neil
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>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>whatever heads will roll will be of the lower echelons variety.
>always has and always will. crap i hope i spelt the e word correctly.
The irony, of course, is that you indeed spelled "echelons"
correctly, but missed "the" by a mile.
:)here my friend, i really have to disagree with you. this is not like
this is the first time something like this has happened. i'm not
going to blame it on race, i'm not going to blame it on politics, but
i will blame it on economic opportunities which by the by is no
stranger to the great american tragedy...err...bed partnership. as
soon as price gouging was raised by our state govt., the cost of gas
dropped by 30 cents per gal. ...gosh...what a surprise since we get
our fuel from................................not nawlins. yesterday
there were reports of shortages and today...well...there ain't.
cat 3 levee..enough???...politics, that's who. race aside, it's those
with the money that make the decisions. sometimes they're right and a
lot of times they're wrong; unless you've got the bucks to prove
otherwise...you're fucked. the town i live in is controlled by a
people from a wealthier community 10 miles away: don't think that all
that's done here isn't for their benefit....while they live here. we
get a "way below average for the state stay" here cuz people move in
and vote for everything then leave. why, cuz it's cheaper to do it
here for the couple of years than to do it where they came from. our
millage rate is amongst the highest in the nation; being 114 Yrs. old
(between us) with no kids we get taxed the same as all the
rabbits...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF that.
i so swear by all that is holy that i so do OT PUSH SHEEP through
fences...unless of course it's absolutely necessary.
please take the humor along with the seriousness of my words as not an
personal attack, as i mea
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| Re: wow [message #57594 is a reply to message #57591] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 18:06 |
rick
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't know how to account for the 5-day Federal bungling of this
>> horrible" by a promise to remove government from our lives. good bad
>> or indifferent, it is what it is...luckily we have a 2 minute memory
>> and in a couple of years this will all be a remember when...thing.
>> except for those who are still being affected by it.
>>
>>
>> >mess,
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:32:36 -0400, "uptown jimmy"
>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html
>> >
>> >I am not a partisan person. I wish to god we could have a discussion
>about
>> >what is going on in the world without all the sanctimony and
>> >self-righteousness.
>> >
>> >This link is to a CNN compare/contrast piece which succinctly summarizes
>the
>> >radical disconnect between the Feds and reality over the last few days.
>> >
>> >I repeat: heads will roll. I have a feeling they will include the head of
>> >FEMA, Micheal Brown.
>> >
>> >I don't know how to account for the 5-day Federal bungling of this
>horrible
>> >mess, but I will watch with full attention as certain public officials
>are
>> >excoriated over this. Some of these folks will be pariahs for a long time
>to
>> >come.
>> >
>> >Jimmy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>my friend, everybody lies. there has Never been a human being that
has not lied about something. even when christ asked his father if
this was all necessary while he was on the cross temporarily negated
all the holy truths to make a point.
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:38:50 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Hmmmm........I agree with the 40 centuries thing. As for the lying, maybe we
>should look at who was doing the lying......like the UN, the French, Sadaam,
>quite a few scumbags of various ilk here and in other countries, including
>our own Oscar Wyatt of Coastal Energy and ol' whatsisname who never had
>sexual relations with that woman........ depending on what the meaning of
>"is" is, of course, his criminal buddy Mark Rich whom he pardoned and whose
>wife is Hilary's good buddy.......and so on. If Mr. Bill would have been
>minding the store, there wouldn't have been a Sadaam or any of this Iraq
>crap now because he could have attended to it through the UN (theoretically)
>before the was was so conveniently forgotten and Sadaam had a chance to
>bribe his way out of the sanctions.
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:2onhh1dlam54a0u1i9t7g64rbcfjspl94m@4ax.com...
>> true, cuz they felt the whatever right would never lie to them. hey,
>> everybody lies about everything if they see a big enough benefit for
>> themselves for whatever reason...and i gots 40 centuries of history on
>> my side for this statement.
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 16:33:20 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
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>> >I agree.....and because the middle did nothing, the war that started in
>1991
>> >never ended.
>> >
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:26ahh19c5chmg8si9bhcluuakm6ibg3eo6@4ax.com...
>> >> first, we don't have the manpower to pull off what would be need to be
>> >> done.
>> >> second, we'd have to lose the "nice guy" approach to a war of this
>> >> kind.
>> >> third, i believe all sides have the not only the right but the duty to
>> >> speak up. imho, it's when the middle says and does nothing is when
>> >> you get a sadam or hitler...cuz it's only the extremes who do all the
>> >> talking and taking.
>> >&g
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| Re: wow [message #57597 is a reply to message #57588] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 18:26 |
rick
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gt; but we are fighting a half assed war in a half assed fashion just as
>> >> >> we did in vietnam.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 06:14:46 -0600, "DJ"
>> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I agree with you. It's more than sad, it's downright scary. The
>middle
>> >> >would
>> >> >> >work for me except for one thing........it's refusal to truly
>> >acknowledge
>> >> >> >and recognize the fact that we are in a war that is equally as
>serious
>> >as
>> >> >> >WWII. The right recognizes this and also recognizes that you can't
>> >fight
>> >> >a
>> >> >> >war in a half assed effort and you can't win a war unless you first
>> >> >> >acknolwedge that you are in the middle of one.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:rn5gh1lougqaia2rkrb59siio8hf240th5@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> "perhaps siding with the least dangerous of the two evils I see
>and
>> >> >> >> seeing very little in the middle that looks reasonable to me."
>> >kinda
>> >> >> >> sad when the middle becomes suspect and either extreme becomes
>the
>> >> >> >> norm.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> :o(
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:35:20 -0600, "DJ"
>> >> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >I do indeed work in the industry. No denials, no apologies. If I
>am
>> >> >> >> >stereotyped for not automatically assuming that every
>anti-industry
>> >> >> >> >viewpoint is valid, then so be it......again no apologies. I do
>> >> >question
>> >> >> >> >both sides. If you have read some of my posts here you might
>> >discover
>> >> >> >that
>> >> >> >> >I'm a somewhat reluctant conservative, perhaps siding with the
>> >least
>> >> >> >> >dangerous of the two evils I see and seeing very little in the
>> >middle
>> >> >> >that
>> >> >> >> >looks reasonable to me.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"JimT" <JT@sansun.com> wrote in message news:43174724$1@linux...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> No disrespect intended DJ, but your response just reinforced
>the
>> >> >> >> >stereotype
>> >> >> >> >> of someone who works in the industry.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >news:43171cbd$1@linux...
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Has anyone noticed that after working five years on the new
>> >White
>> >> >> >House
>> >> >> >> >> >sponsored
>> >> >> >> >> >> energy bill, the U.S. Congress passed a bill that fails to
>> >reduce
>> >> >> >> >> >America's
>> >> >> >> >> >> dependence on oil, fails to address the threat of global
>> >warming,
>> >> >> >fails
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> make any significant new investments in clean energy, and
>> >fails
>> >> >to
>> >> >> >help
>> >> >> >> >> >consumers
>> >> >> >> >> >> at the gas pump.
>> >> >> >&g
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| Re: wow [message #57600 is a reply to message #57597] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 18:54 |
Deej [1]
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ter doing
>another iraq dog and Pony show the other day
>As far as the religious rants here I stay out of that stuff.
Jason, you're a smart guy, and i respect you a lot for your
musical endeavors, but the fucking wetlands aren't going to
make a difference if the levees can't handle at cat4+ hurricane.
That's the biggest problem with you liberals, is that you keep
banging on the same few gongs, no matter what happens ... global
warming, wetlands, ANWR, oil companies... they're not
repsonsible for EVERYTHING, you know.
It was the levees, not the wetlands.
NeilAre there hundreds of hours in six days to watch footage?
;-p
JH
uptown jimmy wrote:
> You didn't mention race, Deej. But lots of folks are mentioning it.
>
> I've watched hundreds of hours of TV footage in the last 6 days, and very,
> very few of those hardest hit are white. There are plenty of white folk who
> are completely devastated in MS and beyond, but it's mostly black folk who
> were trapped in NO, with no cars and no money and no buses to take them out,
> no water and no food and no place to lay the dead and dying.
>
> I watched David Brookes and Tom Oliphant and Clarence Page at a round table
> discussion tonight, all of them horrified at the almost total failure of
> government to take care of so many citizens. The consensus was that this is
> a major turning point in all our lives, not just because of the suffering
> and pain, but because of the collective recoil in horror that we will see in
> the coming days, the renewed interest in how to further promote and
> encourage equality.
>
> Ultimately, it's a class thing. We all know that. As soon as enough poor
> white and poor black people in America figure out that they have more in
> common than not, things are gonna change. This just might be the time for
> that, I don't know, but I know there's a fast-growing perception on both
> sides of the political isle, as we speak, that poor people are suffering out
> of proportion, that we have, as a nation, been neglecting our duties as
> citizens, that government at every level, city/state/federal, has failed
> these people.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43190186@linux...
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>
>>I agree with the politics. Who said anything about race?
>
>
>
>everyones got a finger to point, eh?
yeah its the governors fault 80% of the countries national guard and
helicopters are in Iraq.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4318f10d@linux...
>I agree. I also think there is way too much generalization in using the
>word
> *looter* in this disaster. Hell, I'd be breaking down doors too if I was
> starving/distressed in whatever way. Even items that aren't consumables
> might be bartered for life sustaining things in a situation like this.
> It's
> becoming obvious that the Governor of LA totally dropped the ball. She had
> 6000 national guard troops available but on eyes on the ground in NO to
> tell
> hher where they would be needed. She also had access to federal troops
> from
> Ft. Hood Texas but didn't request help until it was too late,
> communications
> were down and no one knew what was going on. Even after news reports
> started
> hitting the airwaves, it appears that she hesitated. These Texas units
> are
> the troops that are just arriving. They could have been there the day the
> levees broke if she had been on top of things. Of course, with all the
> confusion right now, there could be other mitigating factors to her
> seemingly flawed decision making process. I don't know what political
> party
> she bleongs to, but I'm sure it will eventually get partisan and ugly and
> then we will never know because all objectivity will fly away while the
> interest groups try to cover their asses.
>
> "DC" <dc@spamyeruncle.org> wrote in message news:4318eb36$1@linux...
>>
>> He ought to get a medal. And perhaps a job running the evac.
>>
>> http://www.newschannel5.tv/2005/9/1/4255/Taking-refuge-in-th e-Astrodome
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>> DC
>>
>
>Dedric,
Thank you for such a straight forward statement of TRUTH!!! God bless you
for taking a stand!
Chris
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote in message
news:BF3E14B8.51B%dedric@echomg.com...
> While I respect your opinion, you are guessing what another person thinks
> without knowing them personally, much less their thoughts. Without
knowing
> someone's thoughts and intent first hand, your opinion isn't necessarily
> true. If you portray that person in a negative light without that
> knowledge, it is slander, or at best gossip. Even stating the truth about
> someone else without permission is gossip.
>
> > Jesus on a chariot. This guy embraces disaster. He drools over it.
Policy
> > aside (I actually agree with about 80% of it), this guy IS a moron."
>
> Your last three statements here were not just "I think", but stated as
fact.
> But enough statement analysis... Suffice it to say, if there is a chance
our
> opinions of others could be wrong, they are better left unsaid. We all do
> it though. It is a hard temptation to resist, especially when we feel
> personal frustration. I do it too, sadly.
>
&g
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| Re: wow [message #57602 is a reply to message #57600] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 19:19 |
uptown jimmy
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etween religions as organizations and faith as a belief in a
> God. Religion is a perspective on a belief systems adopted by people.
> Faith is rooted in the very heart and soul, not the head or intellect.
> Faith is a two way street - without God to guide me, my faith would be
> useless. At the same time, if I didn't believe God would guide me, it
would
> also be meaningless.
>
> Faith requires action, or it is just lip service ("Faith without works is
> dead"). To act on religious laws or mandates is no different than acting
> under corporate guidelines - it doesn't take faith in God to follow a few
> rules, traditions or practices. Acting on faith as a Christian is between
> the believer and God, based on God's own word (the Bible and prayer).
Other
> religions may claim the same communicative guidance, but my faith as a
> Christian would be meaningless if I believed all religions were another
form
> of the truth, or if mine were just my personal interpretation, open for
> variation, moderation and alteration at the whim of peers, society, a
> religious organization, or those that disagree with me. If there is no
> absolute truth, there is no absolute wrong. Simple logic tells us there
has
> to be some absolutes, or we will slide into complete chaos. So where do
> those absolutes come from? God of course - through the Bible.
>
> The Bible is clear about homosexuality being wrong, as well as all sin
> (lying, cheating, stealing, etc, etc, etc). I don't condemn homosexuals
as
> fellow citizens, friends and human beings but that doesn't somehow make it
> "right" in a relative sense (i.e. only wrong "for me", but &quo
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| Re: wow [message #57604 is a reply to message #57602] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 19:33 |
JeffH
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talked to has said the Iraqis
> welcome the change, even at the price they are paying. I could post
quotes
> and stories that would really make you think that there was a reason for
> this well beyond and more significant than WMD, but time is short for me
> today. My belief, and this isn't justification, is that Iraq will play a
> strategic role in the future in some event we don't know about - left to
> Saddam it could have been catastrophic, but maybe not by his hand, just as
a
> part of the puzzle of the world's stage.
>
> Whether you believe in God or not, He does lead people today, and He does
> put events into motion for His purposes. Perhaps Iraq had nothing to do
> with future defense or terrorism concerns, but simply the ability of a
> people to have a chance at true freedom.
>
> > "I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but
I
> > sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I
know
> > it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."
>
> This is a basic faith concept for Christians. Running for President isn't
> common, but many of us, if not most or all, follow this very same leading
> every day - often into very risky and unknown territory, knowing the risk
to
> our families and even our lives could be at stake - but doing it for God's
> glory and reasons, not ours. That is faith - being willing to do things
> that aren't popular without regard for social, political or financial
> standing, or even one's own life. I hadn't heard this exact quote, but in
a
> way, it's putting pieces of a puzzle together for me - likely to an
opposite
> conclusion from the one you seem to be drawing.
>
> Without first hand, personal knowledge of someone's intent, heart and
mind,
> we only know them by the way we perceive them through news blurbs, sound
> bites and late-night talk shows. I have yet to see anyone on this forum
> supp
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| Re: wow [message #57607 is a reply to message #57604] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 20:05 |
uptown jimmy
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ial
> standing, or even one's own life. I hadn't heard this exact quote, but in
> a
> way, it's putting pieces of a puzzle together for me - likely to an
> opposite
> conclusion from the one you seem to be drawing.
>
> Without first hand, personal knowledge of someone's intent, heart and
> mind,
> we only know them by the way we perceive them through news blurbs, sound
> bites and late-night talk shows. I have yet to see anyone on this forum
> support believing everything you think you see or hear in the news, much
> less believing your perception is accurate.
>
> I know pastors and Christians that personally spend time with President
> Bush, and have with other presidents (Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon,
> etc),
> and I have met some of these men, heard them speak, read their books, etc.
> There is a different picture painted of these Presidents than the one you
> are demonstrating - it is one of real people trying to do their best to
> lead
> our country. These aren't perfect people or perfect leaders, but no one
> on
> this forum is any more perfect either.
>
> The key to Christian faith is grace. God's grace gave us a way to reach
> Him
> through the sacrifice of His son, and offering us forgiveness through His
> own sacrifice, if we only ask for it. By the same measure of grace we as
> Christians are given the challenge to reach out to the rest of the world
> with God's love to share that very same message with our speech, our
> actions, and our lives - not through hatred, judgement or condemnation.
> Satan loves to twist that message around, and indeed the intent of
> well-meaning Christians - what better way to destroy God's design than to
> discredit His followers, if not dishearten or overtake them?
>
> Thanks for your time jp, or anyone else that read this lonnnnnggg post.
> Back to work, and best regards.
>
> Dedric
>
>
> in article 4318939f@linux, jp at no@mail.please wrote on 9/2/05 1:01 PM:
>
>>
>> "DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
>> news:BF3DC8FD.401F%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
>>> jp - Your climatology insight is fairly well reasoned. Your post script
>>> is
>>> yet more politically opinionated slander. Sorry, it's true. GWB
>>> doesn't
>>> see h
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| Re: wow [message #57612 is a reply to message #57602] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 20:48 |
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m> wrote in message
> >> >news:26ahh19c5chmg8si9bhcluuakm6ibg3eo6@4ax.com...
> >> >> first, we don't have the manpower to pull off what would be need to
be
> >> >> done.
> >> >> second, we'd have to lose the "nice guy" approach to a war of this
> >> >> kind.
> >> >> third, i believe all sides have the not only the right but the duty
to
> >> >> speak up. imho, it's when the middle says and does nothing is when
> >> >> you get a sadam or hitler...cuz it's only the extremes who do all
the
> >> >> talking and taking.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:41:22 -0600, "DJ"
> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >It's certainly looking that way isn't it?........and this is
because
> >of
> >> >the
> >> >> >*middle* I was talking about. We don't have the balls to stand up
and
> >> >fight
> >> >> >anymore and the enemies of this country know that all they need to
do
> >is
> >> >> >wait for the leftists to get their various *activist movements* in
> >gear
> >> >and
> >> >> >undermine the military effort while spouting off their
quasitreasonous
> >> >crap
> >> >> >while wrapping it in pseudopatriotic bullshit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's as predictable as the sun rising and setting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:bssgh1pu1n27anqr51elceg798jqjcdggq@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> but we are fighting a half assed war in a half assed fashion just
as
> >> >> >> we did in vietnam.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 06:14:46 -0600, "DJ"
> >> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I agree with you. It's more than sad, it's downright scary. The
> >middle
> >> >> >would
> >> >> >> >work for me except for one thing........it's refusal to truly
> >> >acknowledge
> >> >> >> >and recognize the fact that we are in a war that is equally as
> >serious
> >> >as
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| Re: wow [message #57624 is a reply to message #57619] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 22:15 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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We all do
>> it though. It is a hard temptation to resist, especially when we feel
>> personal frustration. I do it too, sadly.
>>
>> You also seem to have a rather negative impression of Christians. A faith
>> not practiced in daily life isn't faith, but a set of beliefs adopted as a
>> hobby. You state religion is a crutch, but that is a sweeping
>> generalization. For some that may be true, but let's be clear about the
>> distinction between religions as organizations and faith as a belief in a
>> God. Religion is a perspective on a belief systems adopted by people.
>> Faith is rooted in the very heart and soul, not the head or intellect.
>> Faith is a two way street - without God to guide me, my faith would be
>> useless. At the same time, if I didn't believe God would guide me, it
>> would
>> also be meaningless.
>>
>> Faith requires action, or it is just lip service ("Faith without works is
>> dead"). To act on religious laws or mandates is no different than acting
>> under corporate guidelines - it doesn't take faith in God to follow a few
>> rules, traditions or practices. Acting on faith as a Christian is between
>> the believer and God, based on God's own word (the Bible and prayer).
>> Other
>> religions may claim the same communicative guidance, but my faith as a
>> Christian would be meaningless if I believed all religions were another
>> form
>> of the truth, or if mine were just my personal interpretation, open for
>> variation, moderation and alteration at the whim of peers, society, a
>> religious organization, or those that disagree with me. If there is no
>> absolute truth, there is no absolute wrong. Simple logic tells us there
>> has
>> to be some absolutes, or we will slide
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| Re: wow [message #57645 is a reply to message #57600] |
Sat, 03 September 2005 03:36 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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> mixing tracks that that were recorded in the same space with lots of mic
> bleed witthout having to EQ the life out fo certain tracks.....maybe?
>
>Chris Latham wrote:
> I have a couple of good friends who are on different sides of the fence
> politically, socially, religiously, etc., yet they love working together.
Good for them! Bitter political divisiveness in this country sometimes
approaches the dysfunctional. Best not to let such cacophony ruin
relationships.
From some sources, characterizations themselves tend to the extreme. In
reality, people have a range of opinions on a range of issues, with some
very fundamental outlooks in common. Any painting of large groups of
people into "one side or the other," as if there are only two extreme
perspectives, seems surreal.
> The conservative one drives a Ford Expedition, which they have collectively
> nicknamed, "The Republican." I'm pretty sure it's getting pretty close to
> that GPM designation.
I don't understand why a political party that likes to think of itself
as "conservative" would want to be associated with liberal use of
gasoline; liberal spending and dependency on an increasingly costly
commodity significantly controlled by other countries; tax and spend;
liberal depletion of a limited resource; dangerous rollover tendencies;
and liberal amounts of pollution.
Shouldn't "The Republican" of today be, I dunno, a Toyota Prius?
Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.
> CL
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:43193455$1@linux...
>
>>Already done it. $113. I drive a great big ozone killing gas loving
>>big-ass truck. Goes through gas like there's no tomorrow... in fact, me
>
> and
>
>>my ol' truck and GW are working on makin' sure there ain't no tomorrow.
>>Presently, I don't get MPG - I get GPM... the lower the better I aalways
>>say. Sometimes I just fire it up and let it run just to see if I can
>>hogcall up one of them there K5's or F7. Had my gas cap autographed this
>>week by GW, several big TX oil tycoons - hope to get a few more on the
>
> left
>
>>front fender and right on the tank...
>>
>>Anybody got a light?
>>Dubya
>>
>>
>>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
>>news:43193141@linux...
>>
>>>it costs $100 to fill the tank.
>>>
>>>how long?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>You may have noticed I agree with you, for the most part. It appears
there have been significant shorcomings in preparation for and reaction
to the hurricane and flooding. There needs to be an accounting on local,
regional and national levels.
But describing people who disagree with any of the current
administration's policies as "you Bush-haters" doing a "little hate
litany" is a "partisan knife" way of asking people not to politicize the
disaster.
I think most folks would agree that all levels of government need to be
held accountable for any shorcomings and praised for any successes. I
think we will find major problems and a number of heros in the process.
One thing that should be examined is the role of the homeland security
reorganization in our preparedness for this sort of disaster. Did it
make us more prepared or less prepared?
Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DC wrote:
>
>
>>Heh. Wow. Good to see that you put away the partisan knives, Don. :^)
>
>
>
> Did you understand what I said??
>
> Bush will get the blame he deserves. I am not defending him.
>
> It is important, if this is not to happen again, to understand what
> really happened, and not jerk too many knees too fast.
>
> Us turning this into Iraq, Kyoto, and other things not relevant,
> only angers many of us, while shedding no light on the issues.
>
> DC
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> DC wrote:
> Let's the knives away and stop being partisan at a time like this
(good points munched)
> You Bush-haters will find other things to hate him for. This ain't
> it, and worse, it sucks to use this terrible disaster to do your
> little hate litany again.
>
> DC
Heh. Wow. Good to see that you put away the partisan knives, Don. :^)
BTW, I agree that there's plenty of blame to go around from local gov on
up to the fed response. And the warnings about the potential for this
disaster were many and detailed, including a PBS documentary that
spelled it all out with fancy graphics within the last year or two.
Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.comWow..that 's a "chore" I thought about moving the track to the
left...because the sound is "late"...but the sampleslide moves it to the
right doesn't it? What about the Track Delay,and Track Advance , plugs that
come with UAD? Do you use those? Both of them seem to move the track to the
right...
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4319180d$1@linux...
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> You need to manually compensate in Paris. For each plug you use on a track
> you need to nudge the track to the left 400 ms (4x100)then apply
sampleslide
> (a free plug, www.analogx.com) and type in 1536 samples(except for either
> of the Pultec plugs, where you need to type in 1523) . This should get you
> sample accurate latency compensation. Your system maybe different, but
most
> guys systems work with these numbers, and it will be very close at any
rate.
>
> You can also a plug by voxengo that will do the same as sampleslide. I'm
> not sure whats it's called, but I'm sure someone will chime in. Either
will
> work.
>
> Rod
>
> There are other ways of dealing with this, but that's the way that I do
it.
> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Hi there..I just installed UAD -1 Project Pac
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